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freelance_cricketer said:
I saw Umer Amin.

Pakistanis are delusional to think KL Rahul is similar players.

On Shoaib Akhtar’s own words, KL Rahul at his best is better than Kohli. That’s not an Indian speaking.
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You should see my thread on what I have to say about shoaib Akhtar being an analyst and you will want to take back your own words lol.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
I saw Umer Amin.

Pakistanis are delusional to think KL Rahul is similar players.

On Shoaib Akhtar’s own words, KL Rahul at his best is better than Kohli. That’s not an Indian speaking.
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I think people have actually correctly identified him as Umer Amin. Well done!

Hes India's version of classy right hander, all style zero substance. Mediocre.
 
He is disappointing I agree, but he has some performance and class to show (even stats!) so can't be compared to nothing-players!
 
Don't think he's suited for the middle order, but looks like he's going to start the World Cup as our No. 4.
 
Thanks for your replies guys. Alot of people have compared him to umar amin. I have not seen rahul bat but from the comments people have made about rahul on this forum, and knowing of umar amin's ability/disappointing performances, i kind of get the drift. So rahul sounds like a classy looking batsman(like umar amin) who plays a couple of beautiful strokes( cover drives) and looks like he will score big and then gets out, am i right? Also sounds like another umar, umar akmal? My advice, without seeing rahul, to indian fans, if rahul is the indian version of the 2 umars, then forget about him and look for someone else. Believe me, i wasted 10 years hoping these 2 umars would show their potential.
 
Captain caveman said:
My advice, without seeing rahul, to indian fans, if rahul is the indian version of the 2 umars, then forget about him and look for someone else. Believe me, i wasted 10 years hoping these 2 umars would show their potential.
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Rohit Sharma was worse than Rahul at one point of time over a much longer period of time. Look where he's now.
 
Captain caveman said:
Thanks for your replies guys. Alot of people have compared him to umar amin. I have not seen rahul bat but from the comments people have made about rahul on this forum, and knowing of umar amin's ability/disappointing performances, i kind of get the drift. So rahul sounds like a classy looking batsman(like umar amin) who plays a couple of beautiful strokes( cover drives) and looks like he will score big and then gets out, am i right? Also sounds like another umar, umar akmal? My advice, without seeing rahul, to indian fans, if rahul is the indian version of the 2 umars, then forget about him and look for someone else. Believe me, i wasted 10 years hoping these 2 umars would show their potential.
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He already has two hundreds in T20 internationals and only played 15-16 ODIs. Made a promising start in Test cricket but slowly turning into talented limited-over player. It's still too early to judge where he will end up as a player.
 
So Rahul has sealed the #4 spot for himself, for at least the first 3-4 games.

This is a great development for the team.

Quality hundred from him. As already spoken of him, when he performs he is phenomenal.
 
Captain caveman said:
Keep reading about this guy on this forum. I really only know in detail about pak and english players as im a brit of pakistani heritage. Can someone describe what type of player he is by comparing him to an english or pak player. Thanks.
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When he started he was a solid test opener(test century at SCG and many other performances) ,it looked as if he was'nt made for limited over stuff but then after getting lured into ipl and other limited overs format he started working on his big hitting abilities .
He succeeded in becoming a power hitter (45+avg 150+str rate in T20IS)but with his new found style of playing his test performances went downhill and since then he is struggling to figure out how he should bat .
Comparing him with akmal or kambli isn't fair as KL is a pretty modest guy(a typical well mannered sothindian),the day he gets over his mental block he will surprise the world.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Rohit Sharma was worse than Rahul at one point of time over a much longer period of time. Look where he's now.
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This shows the excellent management skills of the indian coaches. They saw talent in rohit but it needed guidance and management. A huge success story. Pak management could have done the same with umar akmal, i.e. play him as an opener in white ball cricket, but pak management and coaching skills have always left alot to be desired. In my opinion the best native pak coach was imran khan and he wasnt a coach but a player! So perhaps theres hope for rahul yet. Unfortunately the same cant be said for the 2 umars.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
When he started he was a solid test opener(test century at SCG and many other performances) ,it looked as if he was'nt made for limited over stuff but then after getting lured into ipl and other limited overs format he started working on his big hitting abilities .
He succeeded in becoming a power hitter (45+avg 150+str rate in T20IS)but with his new found style of playing his test performances went downhill and since then he is struggling to figure out how he should bat .
Comparing him with akmal or kambli isn't fair as KL is a pretty modest guy(a typical well mannered sothindian),the day he gets over his mental block he will surprise the world.
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This is the danger of t20 leagues. The lure of big bucks can make good sensible players turn into hacks(no disrespect) and who can blame them. The glamour and glitz and the big bucks is a big temptation for anyone. Its good to know rahul is a quiet modest guy, but his batting style from what you say, has changed for mr sensible and reliable to mr show off and brash. It will take alot of hard work and determination to get a balance between these two styles and im guessing thats where rahul is struggling e.g. a sensible player will play % shots depending on risks of getting out but a t20 player sees a hit me ball and doesnt think twice of the risk of getting out. Rahul sounds like his mindset is now like a t20 player and even if he tries to concentrate hard on not playing rash shots, eventually you will lose concentration and play that shot. On the plus side the future and big bucks are in t20 cricket
 
Balthazar said:
He already has two hundreds in T20 internationals and only played 15-16 ODIs. Made a promising start in Test cricket but slowly turning into talented limited-over player. It's still too early to judge where he will end up as a player.
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From the comments people have left, rahul will probably be a white ball specialist and not a test player(similar to rohit sharma) unless he has a strong mind and will and can differientiate between white ball and red ball cricket. The danger i see, with his new mindset, is that not only does he fail in tests, but he fails in odis because hes become a hack(no disrepect). This is exactly what happened to umar akmal when he was dropped from tests as a 20 year old and used as a lower order hitter(hack) in odis - Umar then became a hack. Now umar is only good for t20 cricket. As a cricket fan, i hope this doesnt happen to rahul as well.
 
This thread about rahul should be a warning to all pak fans who keep saying babar should bat with a higher strike rate and concentrate more on power hitting. Be very careful of what you wish for!
 
KL Rahul is truly a once in a generation talent but without brains and game awareness.
 
Captain caveman said:
From the comments people have left, rahul will probably be a white ball specialist and not a test player(similar to rohit sharma) unless he has a strong mind and will and can differientiate between white ball and red ball cricket. The danger i see, with his new mindset, is that not only does he fail in tests, but he fails in odis because hes become a hack(no disrepect). This is exactly what happened to umar akmal when he was dropped from tests as a 20 year old and used as a lower order hitter(hack) in odis - Umar then became a hack. Now umar is only good for t20 cricket. As a cricket fan, i hope this doesnt happen to rahul as well.
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I doubt it though he will end up as Umar Akmal. Akmal's attitude what brought his downfall. He took his place for granted and stopped working on his batting. While KL Rahul is still in struggling phase and he has yet to find a permanent spot in Indian team. And no he is not hack, when he smashes it's all pure cricketing shots. He just need to find that balance.
 
If Rahul clicks in the middle order, he should replace Rahane in Tests as well. Let Agarwal and the new kid handle the Test opening.

But he is more destructive as an opener in LOIs. Hope this will be the last tournament for the likes of Sharma and Dhawan.
 
Balthazar said:
Better players are coming through and these guys have been playing for quite sometime. And also it's clear they are declining.
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Yeah, because Rohit Sharma (averaging 58.74 @91.67 since 2018) and Shikhar Dhawan (averaging 43.91 @97.41 since 2018) are clearly on the decline and need to be replaced.

I swear Indian fans can be so stupid sometimes.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Yeah, because Rohit Sharma (averaging 58.74 @91.67 since 2018) and Shikhar Dhawan (averaging 43.91 @97.41 since 2018) are clearly on the decline and need to be replaced.

I swear Indian fans can be so stupid sometimes.
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Couldn't appreciate you enough for this post, we Indian fans can be incredibly fickle at times.
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Yeah, because Rohit Sharma (averaging 58.74 @91.67 since 2018) and Shikhar Dhawan (averaging 43.91 @97.41 since 2018) are clearly on the decline and need to be replaced.

I swear Indian fans can be so stupid sometimes.
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When was the last time Sharma played anything significant in World tournaments and helped us win? I think it was back in 2013 CT. It's time to move on. England started their transformation just after 2015 WC and look where they are now. #1 ODI team.
 
Balthazar said:
When was the last time Sharma played anything significant in World tournaments and helped us win? I think it was back in 2013 CT. It's time to move on. England started their transformation just after 2015 WC and look where they are now. #1 ODI team.
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When was the last time Kohli did the same? I guess we should replace him as well, right?
 
Today is the day when Rahul must step up.

He will be replacing Shikha’s Dhawan today as an opener most probably. Huge responsibility on him to deliver.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Today is the day when Rahul must step up.

He will be replacing Shikha’s Dhawan today as an opener most probably. Huge responsibility on him to deliver.
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I hope so, given his talent,

But I believe that he's going nowhere. He's reached his level of incompetence.
 
KL Rahul struggled against the new ball in Tests in England. Hopefully he will do better in ODIs.
 
I think he's done 70% of his job already.

Faced Amir first up, left a lot of deliveries to neutralize him. Great contribution today Rahul.

Well done :14:
 
Importantly we didnt lose an early wicket. Even though slow, he ensured that we had a solid start.
 
Played well after a long time. Gave india a good start. Should try to stay there like Rohit and play big innings.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Played well after a long time. Gave india a good start. Should try to stay there like Rohit and play big innings.
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Glad Rohit and Rahul were able to neutralize Amir.

Rahul has new responsibility as an opener. Hope he delivers 😀
 
Good batting from rahul. Expecting an century from you. Our management did right decision!!!

You have a talent no doubt on this. Expecting big score
 
Can bat in the middle order, can open the innings, a substitute wicket keeper, a good fielder and a power hitter. Not bad.
 
Revolution said:
Good batting from rahul. Expecting an century from you. Our management did right decision!!!

You have a talent no doubt on this. Expecting big score
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Form is temporary. Class is permanent.

Rahul oozes class.
Balthazar said:
Can bat in the middle order, can open the innings, a substitute wicket keeper, a good fielder and a power hitter. Not bad.
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He now becomes the vital player for india in this cup.Whether he can replicate dhawans ability will decide indias fate.
 
Huge weight on Rahul’s shoulders now with Gabbar permanently out of the cup
 
This Rahul idiot is the reason for India's slow RR in the first 10 overs and that sucked all the momentum. It's not Dhoni or Jadhav or Pandya who are the reasons for India not winning the WC, but this irresponsible nervous idiot will be. He replaced Dhawan and is not even 10% of him despite getting his fav'te opener position. I wonder why all the people are upset with Pants, Pandyas, Dhonis, Shamis when this good-for-nothing batsman has been doing nothing despite India's heavy dependence on opening pair. Kick this useless man out of the team and let DK or Shankar open the innings. He's simply not cut for international cricket. Heck, I would even go to an extent to open with Rahane or Rayudu and they wouldn't do any worse than this nervous wreck.

KL Rahul will be the main reason for India losing the WC 2019. Mark this post.
 
Rahul's chapter will be over for good! (He had his last wish of playing World Cup!) I will no more support him! I told long back that he is another Vijay Bharadwaj from the same state (Karnataka!) but people on PP still thought otherwise and felt he has special talent (Now we understand only Talent is nothing!) At least Bharadwaj was honest and once expressed & I remember he once blamed that he was responsible for the team's loss in one of the matches! Also he didn't have this hi-fi, style attitude of Rahul...! Rahul can achieve something like Utthappa in IPL (probably should concentrate winning some IPL cup for Punjab like how Utthappa did for KKR! But then winning a cup depends on other factors as well and not just due to a player's brilliance! He can bat like a free bird without any pressure in these clubs, he sure can't handle even 1gm/1ml of pressure! So he is not fit for International Cricket absolutely!)

Some more players will have to go out after this World Cup for good, India have to really strengthen their team by focusing in right area (we are actually doing well in Tests in this matter!) We should think in proper cricketing sense and nothing else should interfere! Dhoni, Jadhav, Rahul, etc, have to move out and fresh breeze has to blow and it may mature when the next world cup arrives (But then people will unfortunately blame us again that we are fit to win only at home - FTBs! Such stupid we are! We will never put the things rightly in the right time!) This team would have done much better if they had Shaw, Gill, Pant, etc, groomed early! (If you observe even yesterday - Pant, Pandya, etc, had right intent and they were executing much better compared to Jadhav, Dhoni...)
 
Hard to believe that Rahul has a strike rate of almost 150 in T20Is. Yet in odis he bats like someone from the 1980s.
 
He is only an automatic selection in the T20I format. I don't know why people expect that much from him the ODI format, after you look at his List A stats.
 
Rahul just does not seem mentally strong enough for ODIs or Tests. In T20's you just gotta play one way so it's fine I guess.
 
an ultimate mental midget who kills all the momentum at the start . Don't have the technique or temperament or compactness to even be a batsman let alone opening. Always surprised as to why this incompetent mental midget was prefered over several talented lot like Shreyas Iyer, M.Agarwal, Shaw etc etc
 
Rahul brings up his century vs Sri Lanka in 109 balls, a fantastic knock. Is he proving his critics wrong?
 
There is a talented player there. He just needs to find his confidence. He has every shot in the book. Just needs to get his confidence going. Opening should help him.
 
satheesh said:
an ultimate mental midget who kills all the momentum at the start . Don't have the technique or temperament or compactness to even be a batsman let alone opening. Always surprised as to why this incompetent mental midget was prefered over several talented lot like Shreyas Iyer, M.Agarwal, Shaw etc etc
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Firebat said:
Rahul brings up his century vs Sri Lanka in 109 balls, a fantastic knock. Is he proving his critics wrong?
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One comment from the BD game and one from the SL game today. Just shows how one good match can make the opinions change.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Hard to believe that Rahul has a strike rate of almost 150 in T20Is. Yet in odis he bats like someone from the 1980s.
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I would give him benefit of doubt for today’s game as it was a dead rubber, target was small and he needed confidence.

The key for me is how he follows up in the finals.
 
AdamM97 said:
One comment from the BD game and one from the SL game today. Just shows how one good match can make the opinions change.
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Yeah fans can be fickle. I've alwasy rated Rahul every highly. Its not everyday that you get batsmen from the SC that can hook and pull fast bowlers. India is blessed with 4 in the current XI including Pant.
 
Well done Rahul.

It’s time to become a hero in the KOs now.

Wish you well
 
Rahul is due of one good innings in knockout.He is not as fearfull than dhawan but he is consistenly playing well
 
Some people have been mislead to believe Rahul isn’t as destructive as Dhawan.

He’s been short on confidence and has been focusing more on contributing on the scoreboard rather than SR.

I think only Hitman exceeds Rahul in pure hitting ability in this team. People are yet to see Rahul in 5th gear. He can go berserk and that’s why a lot of us have backed him.
 
The current approach is working well as he is short on confidence and hacking it out is not the right way to go. He should be allowed to take his time and Sharma should take the initiative as a senior memeber.
 
Huge disappointment - I do not remember a batsman in the last 20 years with so much potential yet failing so miserably.
 
A waste of talent, being the test opener could not survive the opening spell. Total failure in this world cup.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Exactly. I have noticed so many posters have said the same thing about him. He tries too hard to act like an expert.

I don't hate KL Rahul and I think he has the talent but he has got enough chances for now and someone else like Mayank Aggarwal deserved to play against West Indies at least but that didn't happen. What ex cricketers think about him means nothing in this forum. We are here to share our opinion and nobody can use statements from ex cricketers to win an argument here. :inti
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I told you so. :inti
 
Hyped up too much, the next one in line is Pant. His backflips won't help his batting technique.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Just drop him and ask him to score runs in domestics.

Dunno what happened to him.

This is not KL of 2016.
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What happened to Kedae Jadhav? Remember you were hyping him as well and we had a long argument. What went wrong for him? If I remember correctly I also called him a domestic bully. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
What happened to Kedae Jadhav? Remember you were hyping him as well and we had a long argument. What went wrong for him? If I remember correctly I also called him a domestic bully. :inti
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Kedhar Jadhav I backed.

Then he started getting injured frequently so I didn't back him and asked him to be dropped.

For this WC....I wouldn't have picked Jadhav.

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What about your Dhoni bhai?

Still he is good enough?
 
Really surprised with Rahul's performance this WC.. I do rate him very highly. Its almost like he went from a dynamite stroke maker to a much more conservative, "safe" player mode and it clearly didnt work for him.
Cant figure why that happened. Confidence, maybe?
 
Rahul's chapter will be closed for now! I think we should continue him only in tests that too in middle order (and use him as makeshift opener if needed only in tests!) In LOIs he can continue with IPL and needs to really sort out all his issues + come back to the team only if there is any vacancy!
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Kedhar Jadhav I backed.

Then he started getting injured frequently so I didn't back him and asked him to be dropped.

For this WC....I wouldn't have picked Jadhav.

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What about your Dhoni bhai?

Still he is good enough?
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Calm down. He will retire now. He showed today why he was in the team. Lets see how your Pant and Pandya bhai going to take this Indian team forward. :inti
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Pant is still a kid, literally. He can still improve. Rahul though, his end is near, too much competition for his slot.
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He will keep playing like a kid. I have seen him throwing his wicket by playing careless shots so many times already. He did that against West Indies in India too.

Indian team used to have so many good batsman in the past who valued their wickets. This guy reminds me of some Pakistani batsman who always go for glory shots and give their wicket away. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He will keep playing like a kid. I have seen him throwing his wicket by playing careless shots so many times already. He did that against West Indies in India too.

Indian team used to have so many good batsman in the past who valued their wickets. This guy reminds me of some Pakistani batsman who always go for glory shots and give their wicket away. :inti
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Did you even follow Yuvraj's career.
He had nothing except one good innings at the start of his career.
Young talent needs backing.
DHONI failed today. Period.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Calm down. He will retire now. He showed today why he was in the team. Lets see how your Pant and Pandya bhai going to take this Indian team forward. :inti
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Why should I calm down?

We lost the WC.

Who cares if he stays or retires now?

Damage is done. He can't make it to 2023 WC anyway.

What did he show today?

Sent Pant and Pandya to face the music.

Then played a super slow knock with Jaddu taking charge.

Had Jaddu got out earlier, his knock wouldn't look good.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He will keep playing like a kid. I have seen him throwing his wicket by playing careless shots so many times already. He did that against West Indies in India too.

Indian team used to have so many good batsman in the past who valued their wickets. This guy reminds me of some Pakistani batsman who always go for glory shots and give their wicket away. :inti
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TBH even ABD was an average batsman until 2008, then he became a demigod. Not comparing Pant to ABD of course, I wouldn't dare. Not even saying Pant is super talented. However he shouldn't be trashed so early. His the only serious WK prospect for India right now after Dhoni's gone.

Just a couple more years. India has much more bigger issues to worry about than Pant. Pant isn't supposed to be a top order legend, he's a slogger and should be used as such (like Maxwell)
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Why should I calm down?

We lost the WC.

Who cares if he stays or retires now?

Damage is done. He can't make it to 2023 WC anyway.

What did he show today?

Sent Pant and Pandya to face the music.

Then played a super slow knock with Jaddu taking charge.

Had Jaddu got out earlier, his knock wouldn't look good.
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Well, super slow knock was all needed today.
Just imagine if Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Kartik played super slow knocks today and preserved wickets.
Scoring 30s of 50s. Just play like kiwis.
We would have easily won the match.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Why should I calm down?

We lost the WC.

Who cares if he stays or retires now?

Damage is done. He can't make it to 2023 WC anyway.

What did he show today?

Sent Pant and Pandya to face the music.

Then played a super slow knock with Jaddu taking charge.

Had Jaddu got out earlier, his knock wouldn't look good.
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Sent Pant and Pandya to face the music? Seriously lol? Dhoni won't be there to shield them now.

If they can't face the music they can sit at home. Pant and Pandya lost the opportunity to become heroes today.

How old were Kaif and Yuvi when they helped India win the natwest trophy final in 2002? There was no IPL in 2002 so Kaif and Yuvi didn't have the experience of playing against the best players in pressure situations of IPL either. :kohli

If they always want top order to provide the platform and someone like Dhoni to protect them then thats not going to happen sir jee. :inti
 
Kaptan said:
Well, super slow knock was all needed today.
Just imagine if Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Kartik played super slow knocks today and preserved wickets.
Scoring 30s of 50s. Just play like kiwis.
We would have easily won the match.
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That's true, India lost because they didn't have wickets in hand. Low SR wouldn't be an issue if India was 200/4 after 45 overs.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
TBH even ABD was an average batsman until 2008, then he became a demigod. Not comparing Pant to ABD of course, I wouldn't dare. Not even saying Pant is super talented. However he shouldn't be trashed so early. His the only serious WK prospect for India right now after Dhoni's gone.

Just a couple more years. India has much more bigger issues to worry about than Pant. Pant isn't supposed to be a top order legend, he's a slogger and should be used as such (like Maxwell)
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Giving him an all important position at 4 was a joke. Hopefully team management have realized it now.
 
Kaptan said:
Well, super slow knock was all needed today.
Just imagine if Kohli, Rahul, Pant, Kartik played super slow knocks today and preserved wickets.
Scoring 30s of 50s. Just play like kiwis.
We would have easily won the match.
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Yeah..true.

This was a diff type of game.

But he could have showed a bit more intent and put away the bad balls.
 
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