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GoodScored his 12th T20 fifty and departs after making 55 off 37 balls
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GoodScored his 12th T20 fifty and departs after making 55 off 37 balls
This kind of mindset is the problem1 good knock after ages. Hope he can continue playing like this
He scored 55 two matches ago, 45 the match before that, then an unbeaten 36, and 62 in the one before that.1 good knock after ages. Hope he can continue playing like this
Yup! We don’t need 60/70s. We need 35 from 15 balls, which Haris is ready to do. They are going to destroy this guys talent.This kind of mindset is the problem
Why don’t you advocate for Imam Ul Haq who has been consistent with his 130 strike rate as an opener?
InshallahHe needs to keep performing.
His time is coming in white ball cricket.
He's only 23 and still has a lot of cricket left in him.He needs to keep performing.
His time is coming in white ball cricket.
We should pair them for sure!We can pair haris with Saim Ayub in T20 cricket that left right combination will help Pakistan and both are attacking players which we needed badly these days.
And actually Haris was quite comfortable in those conditions. Aligned on the point of giving players chances but there is a balance. It’s like picking fruit fromHe's only 23 and still has a lot of cricket left in him.
I don't get why people don't understand how cricketers develop. How are they supposed to get experience at the highest level if they don't play?
Eg. Someone like Harris might struggle in Aussie conditions now, but give him a few tours, and he'll get used to it. By the time he's 28 or 29, he'll be solid in those conditions.
But the same people want to push for for rizwan and babar who in 7 years after playing in various conditions have not gained anything only regressed.
You can't develop players by giving them 2 3 games here and their and dropping them neec to give players a good run of games to develop them
But then again the whole team is based around babar and rizwan the reason we don't want to develop players.
What kind of consistency do you want? It’s T20 not Test cricketHaris has to prove himself that he can be consistent and at least he is trying to look consistent and also he can be an international material. Cannot afford another Farhan or Usman.
Consistency of not getting out cheaply. Don't want a 5-10 balls player in HarisWhat kind of consistency do you want? It’s T20 not Test cricket
What do you want him to do? Smash or defend?Consistency of not getting out cheaply. Don't want a 5-10 balls player in Haris
The best T20 opener in the country obsessed with averages/consistency.Mohammad Haris scored a brilliant fifty to steer the Stallions to a successful chase against the Dolphins in the PCB Champions T20 Cup 2024, leading the side directly to the final of the tournament.
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When players are selected and developed, the ultimate goal is for them to deliver in clutch moments during ICC World Cups. Here we have a player who has already proven himself on that stage but finds himself sidelined due to politics and the logjam in Pakistan’s T20I top order.should be there with saim, bobsy for all his faults supported saim a fair bit, in pak and zalmi, doubt rizlu would ever show similar support for haris. hes very inconsistent but a potential match winner.
Haris shouldn't have been dropped in first place but let's not ignore his performance were quite average for PZ hence he was dropped.When players are selected and developed, the ultimate goal is for them to deliver in clutch moments during ICC World Cups. Here we have a player who has already proven himself on that stage but finds himself sidelined due to politics and the logjam in Pakistan’s T20I top order.
Babar opened for Zalmi, pushing Haris down to one-drop, and later excluded Haris from the XI to preserve Rizwan’s position as both T20 opener and wicketkeeper.
Anyone who actually gets where T20 cricket is headed knows that Mohd Haris is the only T20 opener in Pakistan who fits the modern requirements.Haris shouldn't have been dropped in first place but let's not ignore his performance were quite average for PZ hence he was dropped.
Now coming to this post. Let me clarify I have no problem him opening. But let's get to the facts. Haris for a start has always been a middle order bat from his age group cricket. Haris first came to light when he scored 70 odd opening for KPK in a domestic tournament. He was given chances in middle order and failed in that same tournament. When KPK had qualified for the next round Rizwan rested himself and opened the innings with Haris where he scored 70 odd. I probably believe Rizwan is selfish but these are facts. He gave Haris opportunities when he wasn't getting any.
A lot of posters pick on Babar and Rizwan for the lack of development of Harris and justifiably too at times but ignore the fact that he was picked by KK in Psl without getting a game and later released. If I am not mistaken the captain was imad. We don't hear anything about that.
Now on the topic of him opening. He himself while being a captain of Pakistan Shaheen has batted mainly at 3. Now in this domestic tournament he is also batting at 3 while being the captain. Once again I have no problem of him opening with saim in t20s, but to say Babar and Rizwan didn't give him opportunities is wrong as they both played and gave him in opportunities in Psl and KPK.
Both Saim and Haris should be the openers in t20s. I am just pointing out the facts which people seem to ignore and no KG was never a spinner he was always a batsmen who could bowl. He was always a middle order bat since his age group not a spinner.Anyone who actually gets where T20 cricket is headed knows that Mohd Haris is the only T20 opener in Pakistan who fits the modern requirements.
It doesn’t matter where Haris batted in age group cricket (KG was a spinner back then, and Rizbabar weren’t T20 openers either in age group). The fact is, Haris’ ability to dominate high pace and his relative struggles against spin make him the ideal opener. His 170+ strike rate in PSL 7 and 8 proves that. And let’s not forget, the only time he struggled was in the last PSL, when Babar and Saim were in form, forcing him to bat one down outside Powerplay and face more spin.
Even Babar admitted Haris isn’t being picked because the top order is clogged. But honestly, should Rizbabar still be opening ahead of guys like Saim, Haris, or Fakhar? Seems like it’s time to rethink the hierarchy.
Obviously Haris is moving to 1 down, 2 down to get an opportunity to play for Pakistan because Rizbabar ain’t moving
Yup! I am aligned on that. I could be wrong but I heard that KG started his age group cricket as a left arm spinner and then became a proper batter down the road.Both Saim and Haris should be the openers in t20s. I am just pointing out the facts which people seem to ignore and no KG was never a spinner he was always a batsmen who could bowl. He was always a middle order bat since his age group not a spinner.
I am of the belief rizwan should be dropped from t20s and if Babar does play he should be at 3 or 4 not opening.
He use to bowl a lot more but was always a batsmen. He's played in top 5 thought out his age group. He first caught eye when he scored a 100 for Pakistan u19 against England u19 off 37 balls.Yup! I am aligned on that. I could be wrong but I heard that KG started his age group cricket as a left arm spinner and then became a proper batter down the road.
I see. Do you think he can replicate this type of innings again.He use to bowl a lot more but was always a batsmen. He's played in top 5 thought out his age group. He first caught eye when he scored a 100 for Pakistan u19 against England u19 off 37 balls.
Lol, exactly!Looks like he’s trying to reinvent himself as a more mature batsman
I don’t like natural flair players restraining himself, but this is Pakistan cricket. They want natural, free flow players to go through this process of castrating the aggression, otherwise a coward who plays for himself is always waiting to be preferred.
Depends, Haris is still aggressive.Looks like he’s trying to reinvent himself as a more mature batsman
I don’t like natural flair players restraining himself, but this is Pakistan cricket. They want natural, free flow players to go through this process of castrating the aggression, otherwise a coward who plays for himself is always waiting to be preferred.
Specifically in T20s, that’s not true. He had a very strong National T20 tournament 2023 where he scored at 158 strike rate. It’s PSL 9 where he failed and it’s when he was pushed down to bat at 1 down, which is not this guy’s strength.This is true that haris should have been preferred instead of Azam khan for that world cup but since then, haris's form has taken a nose dive.
Haris has scored some runs in the last 2-3 games but before that, he was all-over the place with shaheens as well. I really hope that he looks good so that we can get rid of Usman hack and Haseebullah hack.
I mentioned his shaheens run as well. he was pathetic there as well.Specifically in T20s, that’s not true. He had a very strong National T20 tournament 2023 where he scored at 158 strike rate. It’s PSL 9 where he failed and it’s when he was pushed down to bat at 1 down, which is not this guy’s strength.
In the ongoing T20 tournament, he’s in top 6-7 run scorers with one of the best strike rates (153).
Feels like his career’s in reverse, lol. Players are groomed to win World Cup games—that’s the dream. Haris started by delivering clutch performances at the WC, wrongly dropped, dominated PSL 2023 with a 170+ strike rate, shone in Domestic T20, and now he’s being asked to prove he belongs. Well, he’s already flexed at 2022 World Cup where most batters failed. It makes no sense.I mentioned his shaheens run as well. he was pathetic there as well.
I hope he comes good because he is someone who we call a modern day better but he is not just there atmFeels like his career’s in reverse, lol. Players are groomed to win World Cup games—that’s the dream. Haris started by delivering clutch performances at the WC, wrongly dropped, dominated PSL 2023 with a 170+ strike rate, shone in Domestic T20, and now he’s being asked to prove he belongs. Well, he’s already flexed at 2022 World Cup where most batters failed. It makes no sense.
He has always been ready. We need to change our expectation/definition. If he can average 20 with strike rate of 170, then that’s a MASSIVE win as far as an opener is concerned. We don’t need 70 off 55 balls. We need brisk cameos at the top.I hope he comes good because he is someone who we call a modern day better but he is not just there atm
He was the rightful leader of Pakistan. Kirsten wasn’t stupid to want to invest in him as his captainUnder Shoaib Malik's mentorship, not only has his game improved, but he has also emerged as a strong leader, guiding his team to lift the trophy in the inaugural PCB Champions T20 Cup 2024.
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I can see the desperation to find Riz’s replacement.Peshawar Zalmi get your act together and appoint him as your captain, or release him so that he can lead Karachi Kings!
Erm, what else is he supposed to do after becoming the keeper+Batsman of this tournament???I can see the desperation to find Riz’s replacement.
Captaincy doesn’t matter. How about Haris puts his own together for himself and takes ownership for his own success or failure
These posters like @gazza619 are way too obsessed with stat padders in T20s, oops I meant averages and consistency. Haris scored at 153 strike rate and still averaged 35. Has actually delivered in clutch games. What else is the lad supposed to do.Erm, what else is he supposed to do after becoming the keeper+Batsman of this tournament???
The greatest act of leadership and selflessness was his decision to sacrifice his opening position and bat at one-down, despite being arguably the best T20 opener in the country, if not all of Asia. That move paid off today with Yasir Khan scoring a century. What’s most impressive is that he took on the harder role and excelled. He should be made Pakistan’s T20 captain without delay.Superb captaincy by Harris throughout
Absolutely mauled Markhors in the final. They charged after them in the powerplay, got a firm grip of the game and were rewarded with a daunting total of 199!
The 3rd over to Jahandad with Fakhar Zaman looking to cut loose clinched the tournament!
His application of spinners and making Iftikhar look clueless against them also testimony to his good, thinking brain!
Kirsten didn’t anticipate anything extraordinary. It’s pretty obvious that Haris should be leading Pakistan in T20Is. He’s an automatic choice. And he has been groomed for leadership in A teams and domestics.He was the rightful leader of Pakistan. Kirsten wasn’t stupid to want to invest in him as his captain
The PCB and their touts can try their best to brush this under the carpet! I will never allow this to be forgotten! You know that well!
Lol from Tayyab being an all format player to now Mohammed Haris being the best t20 opener in Asia. I guess it not about numbers for you then.The greatest act of leadership and selflessness was his decision to sacrifice his opening position and bat at one-down, despite being arguably the best T20 opener in the country, if not all of Asia. That move paid off today with Yasir Khan scoring a century. What’s most impressive is that he took on the harder role and excelled. He should be made Pakistan’s T20 captain without delay.
I will stop engaging, not because I disagree with you, but because the quality of your argumentation is too low. I’ve already clarified twice that Tayyab Tahir should not play Test cricket, yet you keep clinging to the all format comment as false facts because I called you out on your habit of liking/disliking players.Lol from Tayyab being an all format player to now Mohammed Haris being the best t20 opener in Asia. I guess it not about numbers for you then.
It if your assumption of me having likes and dislikes. I asked you simple questions about batting which you couldn't answer, which lead you assuming about having linking/disliking.I will stop engaging, not because I disagree with you, but because the quality of your argumentation is too low. I’ve already clarified twice that Tayyab Tahir should not play Test cricket, yet you keep clinging to the all format comment as false facts because I called you out on your habit of liking/disliking players.
As for Mohammad Haris, his career T20 strike rate is 147, with a PSL strike rate of 160+ and 153 in the recently concluded National T20 tournament, where he was also the wicketkeeper of the tournament. The strike rate is key metric in today’s T20Is as long as your average is acceptable, which it is in Haris case and hovers around 20-30. He has delivered in World Cup matches for Pakistan. There’s no gamble in his T20 selection—only someone deliberately ignoring the facts could argue otherwise.
Mohammad Haris hasn’t played enough internationally. His numbers in domestic are really good.It if your assumption of me having likes and dislikes. I asked you simple questions about batting which you couldn't answer, which lead you assuming about having linking/disliking.
You did call Tayyab tahir an all format player initially now back tracking when questioned.
Now you have said Haris is the best t20 opener in Asia based on what exactly? His international stats are awful. His domestics one are pretty good. So what you are saying is he's the best opener based on his domestic record?
Again you have made an assumption that I don't like Haris. Haris will be one of the first players on a team sheet for me. I just wanted to know on what basis Haris is the best t20 opener in Asia?
I think he should open. His match up is against high pace.Looks like Haris has really gotten used to batting at 3. Did it this tournament and previously the PSL. Came into the international side to bat one down as well. Should have been in the T20 side for the past few years but my guess is he will continue to be out of the side until Rizwan is gone or at least is removed from captaincy.
Maybe someday we'll get the Zalmi top order to be the same as the national side.
I have absolutely no issues with guys like Haris getting a chance if they consistently perform on competitive platforms. But disrespect a Pakistani legend and you will face the musicThese posters like @gazza619 are way too obsessed with stat padders in T20s, oops I meant averages and consistency. Haris scored at 153 strike rate and still averaged 35. Has actually delivered in clutch games. What else is the lad supposed to do.
Why Tayyab? He should replace Rizwan in T20sHe can replace Tayyab and lets see how he does as a lower order hitter.
Why Tayyab? He should replace Rizwan in T20s
This is a pathetic strategy.Rizwan just won in OZ and SA. You need to get used to him being around a lot longer
We need a dependable lower order hitter.
Rizwan is likely to remain in the team for the next 8 to 10 years regardless of his performance, which essentially signals the end of Harris's international career.Looks like Haris has really gotten used to batting at 3. Did it this tournament and previously the PSL. Came into the international side to bat one down as well. Should have been in the T20 side for the past few years but my guess is he will continue to be out of the side until Rizwan is gone or at least is removed from captaincy.
Maybe someday we'll get the Zalmi top order to be the same as the national side.
Rizwan lost all T20is against Australia’s C team and then against South Africa’s C team.Rizwan just won in OZ and SA. You need to get used to him being around a lot longer
We need a dependable lower order hitter.
Well, mate, this isn’t Pakistan’s national team where deserving players like Harris are guaranteed a spot in the top order. This is Babar and Rizwan’s team. If Harris wants to play, he’ll have to follow Captain Rizwan’s instructions and adapt to being a lower-order hitter, just like everyone else has had to do or else he can say goodbye to his international career.This is a pathetic strategy.
Mohd Haris is an opener and hitter of pace.
He has no business in middle order.
Rizwan is not a T20I player.
This is a pathetic strategy.
Mohd Haris is an opener and hitter of pace.
He has no business in middle order.
Rizwan is not a T20I player.
You have no idea what you're talking about if you're confusing Haris with Usman, Khusdil, and Azam Khan.Haris is not a top order batter. I bet you think Usman Khan is a top order batter too
Just because he opens for sui gas or whatever domestic team he plays for doesn't mean he is a international opener.
If he can prove himself in the lower order than we can progress from there.
Calibre of top 3 should be batters like Saim and Babar.
I would put Haris along with batters like Asif Ali, Khushdil Shah, Azam Khan.
But but but Salman Butt said Haris is a rubbish playerIan Bishop shared his remarks while commentating on the Afghanistan vs. England match in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025:
“There’s a young man called Mohammad Haris around Pakistan, who I think is inconsistent, but he is exactly what white-ball cricket needs.”
Agree 100%Mohammad Amir questions PCB’s decision to overlook Mohammad Haris for captaincy, highlighting his leadership experience at various levels.
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I agree.... If you had to make a captain who is new, then it should have been Haris.Agree 100%
This guy was perfect for the young guns. Kirsten was right about this assessment too.
Rana sahab inshAllah harris will open in new zealand series and the way he plays he will give pakistan brisk start for sure.Agree 100%
This guy was perfect for the young guns. Kirsten was right about this assessment too.
Harris is versatile enough to play in top 7 anywhereRana sahab inshAllah harris will open in new zealand series and the way he plays he will give pakistan brisk start for sure.
Yes SirIt’s a no brainer. Best T20I opener in Pakistan, and likely even Asia. Abhishek from India looks pretty good too.
The opener we need is someone who can do 15 ball 30 at least 3 out of 10 games. These are more valuable than 50 from 40 balls 6 out of 10 games. Data shows that teams that score the most runs in PP win more games.Yes Sir![]()