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I feel he's a much improved bowler in all respects since his return. Higher average speed, the erratic control has improved and he seems to have developed a natural outswinger with the new ball.

From what we've seen in the Asia cup and this series, it seems to be a tale of two halves.

Opening spell

He's impressed me there. He concedes 15 runs or less in the first 2 overs and often will pickup a wicket or two eg. 10/1 in the last match and 11/2 today. His pace and bounce off a shortish length tends to hurry up batsmen ( Hales today). His accuracy is much better than what it used to be.

Death overs

This is where he has struggled. Just like today his figures changed from 15-2 of 3 to 40/2 off 4. Reasons for this might be.
--doesnt have confidence in his Yorker yet. I am yet to see him attempt it more than twice an over. He resorts to his short of length stock ball instead and that is often hoiked out of the ground.

-- his slower ball seems to be picked more often that not. I've seen him deceive the batsman once or twice but a lot of the time they are ready, waiting for it.

-- his line more often that not goes very leg side when he's attempting a fuller length. This happens more frequently with the old ball and the batsmen will just pick it up from their pads.

All in all, inspite of being a fan, he doesn't make it to the final 11 for the WC if Pakistan go with 3 quicks. Shaheen and Rauf are better bowlers and Naseem edges him based on current form. Maybe if we were to go with 4 pacers, he could get an outing.
 
He loses it mentally when a batsman attacks him and hits a couple of boundaries.

Needs to toughen up
 
Yah that's something I've noticed as well. He doesn't handle pressure well at all. When he goes for a couple of boundaries at the start of the over, it typically goes downhill from there.
 
Overall he was brilliant in his first 3 overs

It happens. Let’s not write him off
 
For now, he is simply not a death bowler and his overs should be used up prior to that.

His bowling upfront was excellent and we wouldn't be in the match at all if not for those crucial wickets of Hales & Jacks.
 
Rana said:
Overall he was brilliant in his first 3 overs

It happens. Let’s not write him off
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You only develop bottle by having experience. He needs to make as much domestic cricket as possible, just to be more game aware and less nervous. I’d love to see him play a full county season, to develop that steel.

Thing with Hasnain is, despite his faults, the lad has an incredible ceiling. Pace, height, bounce, a natural outswinger. He now just needs to bowl and bowl and bowl to get more match intelligent. Obviously he does not make the WC 11, but he’s someone that should not be cut adrift, even if Pakistan lost today.
 
haris rauf is the only death bowler pak have, the rest all bottle it every now and then in last few overs. i think pak should experiment with moving shadab back to the 17th over, so of the final three rauf can bowl two, and only one falls to one of the other seamers. use hasnain in between shadab spells.
 
Bowl him early on and middle. Rauf and Waziri are more equipped to bowl at the death
 
He has the tools to be a good bowler but has the nerves of a hamster. In his last over, he got hit for a 6 off a decent delivery and then he just lost the plot.

I don't think he can be playing T20's unless he improves his mental strength. Or like someone else said, use him up front. There were a few things that were just criminal in his final over. The no ball, couple of deliveries that were short and wide, bowling one on the pads with no protection at square leg.

Compare that to Haris Rauf who gets hit for a 4 and has only 5 to defend but sticks to his guns.

I am not sure if Hasnain will ever be able to develop that mentality but until he does he will always be a liability in T20 cricket. Very much like Usman Shinwari.
 
he needs a mentor, ive said this before, he lacks cricket iq, i always feel he will always need a close mentor close by.
he cant be bowling good length at death bowling in t20=especially in sub continant
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
You only develop bottle by having experience. He needs to make as much domestic cricket as possible, just to be more game aware and less nervous. I’d love to see him play a full county season, to develop that steel.

Thing with Hasnain is, despite his faults, the lad has an incredible ceiling. Pace, height, bounce, a natural outswinger. He now just needs to bowl and bowl and bowl to get more match intelligent. Obviously he does not make the WC 11, but he’s someone that should not be cut adrift, even if Pakistan lost today.
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That's is exactly what's excites me the most about him. The potential. He is a different breed to the usual Pakistani fast bowler who's natural length is full and is skiddy off the pitch. Hasnains length is shorter and with his height ( He must be around 6'1-2" ), he gets it to rear up at chest height. If he can do it with accuracy, with his pace he is a mouth watering prospect.

At 22 years of age, that pace can go up a notch further. Even if his actual age is a year or two more, that still gives his musculature another 24 months to fully develop. I just hope the board can take care of him with regards to his fitness and development. A couple of seasons in the Quaid e Azam trophy along with A team tours will do him a world of good.
 
With regards to the death overs, I think we already have that sorted out with Shaheen and Rauf. Naseem would be a backup although his record in that phase isn't much better than Husnains.

Using him up front would be tricky as well. Both Naseem and Shaheen are new ball bowlers. Hasnain might be used in overs 4 to 15.
 
He missed a Shaheen Afridi type team-mate stood at mid-off keeping him right today.

But that cannot happen every time he bowls, he needs to think for himself and if he is not happy with the field he needs to let the skipper know.
 
16/1 today off his first 2 with the opposition going at 10plus an over.. Excellent opening spell again, something he's been doing consistently lately.

Still requires a lot of work ofcourse (consistency with lines not his strong suit) but I think it should be plenty clear to everyone that at present he's a much better choice than Dahani or Wasim.
 
Saj said:
He missed a Shaheen Afridi type team-mate stood at mid-off keeping him right today.

But that cannot happen every time he bowls, he needs to think for himself and if he is not happy with the field he needs to let the skipper know.
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He is still young and developing, needs a partner to support him. Sometimes when you go for runs you need someone to support you. Captain needs to do a better job helping his bowlers
 
Grunge101 said:
16/1 today off his first 2 with the opposition going at 10plus an over.. Excellent opening spell again, something he's been doing consistently lately.

Still requires a lot of work ofcourse (consistency with lines not his strong suit) but I think it should be plenty clear to everyone that at present he's a much better choice than Dahani or Wasim.
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He has basically sealed his place above Wasim and Dahani for the WC I'd agree.
 
Hasnain 2.0 is certainly much improved.

Higher average speed is very clearly visible. Hardly bowls a ball below 145k these days and bowled 154k today.


Plus he has good height, great bounce and takes the new ball away from right handers.

Very good raw ingredients. Just needs to bowl and bowl and bowl and refine his craft.
 
32/1 off his 4 on a day when the opposition scores 200 plus.
A very decent performance I'd say. The death over being the Achilles heel again where he conceded 16. His figures were brilliant after the first 3, 16/1.
 
Marooned said:
Hasnain 2.0 is certainly much improved.

Higher average speed is very clearly visible. Hardly bowls a ball below 145k these days and bowled 154k today.


Plus he has good height, great bounce and takes the new ball away from right handers.

Very good raw ingredients. Just needs to bowl and bowl and bowl and refine his craft.
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He's improving progressively which is the most encouraging thing for me. His accuracy is so much better than V1.0 , his average pace has increased and he keeps improving on the slower ball.
He should be the first backup option in the WC behind the trio of Shaheen, Naseem and Haris.
 
Last official report from Pcb(2 days old) states he's been advised complete rest for now. Looks like he got covid along with Naseem.

https://www.cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/news/amp/update-on-naseem-and-hasnains-viral-infection
 
With enough experience he will get mentally tougher. A captain shouting at you doesn’t help- that guy needs to learn how to talk to bowlers when they’re getting hit.
 
Suleiman said:
With enough experience he will get mentally tougher. A captain shouting at you doesn’t help- that guy needs to learn how to talk to bowlers when they’re getting hit.
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Each to their own. Imran and Wasim never shied away from giving it to a bowler they thought could do better. Some people do well under those conditions.
 
Opening spells (first 2 overs) since return with remodelled action

16/1. against Eng
11/2 against Eng
10/1. against Eng
14/0. against Eng
19/0 against SL
5/2 against SL
22/1 against AFG
17/0 against IND

On average 14/1 from his first 2 overs. So 7 RPO and a wicket every time. These are more than decent figures.
 
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Spells at the death (2 overs) since return

16/0 against Eng
29/0 against Eng
26/0. against Eng
37/0. against Eng
25/0 against SL
16/1 against SL
12/1 against AFG
22/1 against IND

Average 22.8. so 11.4 RPO and a wicket every 2nd match. It's in this phase of the innings that he ruins his figures.
 
ZafarKhan2022 said:
He should just bowl his 4 overs and then field. He's not someone who can bowl in the last 6 overs.
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Having one less option in the death overs is pretty bad though, especially as Babar refuses to use anything other than pace for the last 6 overs regardless of the match situation. Not having Hasnain for the end makes things pretty inflexible.
 
hitthestump said:
Having one less option in the death overs is pretty bad though, especially as Babar refuses to use anything other than pace for the last 6 overs regardless of the match situation. Not having Hasnain for the end makes things pretty inflexible.
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He will just get better over time. Needs more experience and exposure. He’s Young. He’ will go far
 
His new ball skills are right up at Naseem and Just behind Shaheen a touch , if you play him then give him 3 overs on the trott and use his 4th in the middle when there is a new batsmen at the wicket he will do well everytime this way.
 
Looked off-kilter today. Pace was down and his opening spell wasn't nearly as good as it has been recently.

Hopefully just an off day coming back straight from his viral illness.
 
Let's hope we see a match ready Hasnain tomorrow. It will be a test for both Naseem and him with the Allen and Guptill combo going at it from the start.
 
Grunge101 said:
Looked off-kilter today. Pace was down and his opening spell wasn't nearly as good as it has been recently.

Hopefully just an off day coming back straight from his viral illness.
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Yeah I’ll give him benefit of the doubt for coming back from illness. Pace still came to mid 140s at times.
 
Dropped today. Wasim was preferred over him for Lord knows what reasons. Based on their records in the last two matches, I can't see the rationale behind this decision.
 
Just the 1 match in the tri-series.

Clearly a back-up bowler at the moment.
 
The team management seems utterly confused.

Hasnain was added to the AC squad only when Shaheen got injured. Then he became first choice throughout the Eng series and bowled excellent new ball spells. Dahani and Wasim were meanwhile carted to all parts of the ground.

Then the NZ Tri series starts and he comes down with a viral illness and doesn't play in the first 4 matches. And now he's being dropped for Wasim.

It's like they change their minds every 2-3 games.
 
Pretty average outing today. 36 of 3 overs. Length was all over the place. Some good slower balls in between.

Two drop catches, both on that short of length ball and he can find batsmen not having enough time with his pace and skying them in the air.
 
Strongly feel he should've played today. I know he can be erratic but he's shown consistent performance with the new ball since he's come back.

He's been hard done by recently in my opinion. Constant feature in the AC and then Eng series. Bowled some excellent spells. Then went down with a viral illness and Wasim took his place. And he was dropped after one outing.
 
Pavillion panel on Mohammad Hasnain. Waqar and Wasim also talk about his technical issues.

 
Grunge101 said:
Pavillion panel on Mohammad Hasnain. Waqar and Wasim also talk about his technical issues.

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Lol. Was just gonna quote the Pavilion on here too. Both Waqar and Wasim are impressed with Hasnain and think he should play.

‘Nuff said.

Need a brave captain to play 4 seamers, esp someone like Hasnain who needs a strong captain to back him up.

Not Babar who is reactive and gangs up on his bowlers and starts yelling
 
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I fear they’re not even going to play Hasnain in this tournament unless an injury takes place.

Idk, but I get the vibe that Babar doesn’t trust him with the ball because he wants to live in a perfect world were no chances are taken. Hasnain gets wickets but can go for runs. At the same time he is in need of someone investing in him as a player for a proper year or so. There’s been players by other top teams who have been invested in for 2-3 years before they became elite.

Babar is an ultra defensive captain who starts panicking after 1 six and a captain’s reaction is contagious to the rest of the players.

Ideally both Hasnain and Haris (The Two H’s) should play because they are the most experienced in Australian conditions with solid showings in the BBL. Ofc, management is allergic to logic so won’t consider this.
 
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Suleiman said:
I fear they’re not even going to play Hasnain in this tournament unless an injury takes place.

Idk, but I get the vibe that Babar doesn’t trust him with the ball because he wants to live in a perfect world were no chances are taken. Hasnain gets wickets but can go for runs. At the same time he is in need of someone investing in him as a player for a proper year or so. There’s been players by other top teams who have been invested in for 2-3 years before they became elite.

Babar is an ultra defensive captain who starts panicking after 1 six and a captain’s reaction is contagious to the rest of the players.

Ideally both Hasnain and Haris (The Two H’s) should play because they are the most experienced in Australian conditions with solid showings in the BBL. Ofc, management is allergic to logic so won’t consider this.
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Yah I have the same fear. It seems like Wasim is more in favor with Babar mostly because he can bat better. This defensive mindset of wanting batting potential right down to number 9.

Hasnain's biggest weakness is he seems to crumble when th first balls of the over go for boundaries. He needs to have someone senior alongside who can provide him with support and advice in that scenario and I think Shaheen's presence will definitely help in this regard. Babar seems to lose his cool pretty easily lately, for eg we saw him protesting and throwing arms up in the air at Rauf in the last game, who is the best bowler in the side. I'm guessing that doesn't make someone like Hasnain feel too comfortable sitting on the sidelines.

His record in the BBL is 7 wickets in 5 matches and an ER of 6 RPO, which is impressive the big names in last edition went for much more.

I'd want him to come in around overs 3-4 and finish before the 17th. The ball will still be newish at that point and he's been getting away swing consistently. We dont need h at the death anyway with Haris, Naseem and Shaheen in the tank.
 
Who do you think the opposition batsmen would prefer not to face from this trio, Dahani, Wasim and Hasnain. I think it's hands down Hasnain. With the pace and movement on offer down under right now, I would prefer Hasnain too. I personally think Hasnain showed more with the little chances he was given recently than both Dahani and Wasim.
 
Suleiman said:
I fear they’re not even going to play Hasnain in this tournament unless an injury takes place.

Idk, but I get the vibe that Babar doesn’t trust him with the ball because he wants to live in a perfect world were no chances are taken. Hasnain gets wickets but can go for runs. At the same time he is in need of someone investing in him as a player for a proper year or so. There’s been players by other top teams who have been invested in for 2-3 years before they became elite.

Babar is an ultra defensive captain who starts panicking after 1 six and a captain’s reaction is contagious to the rest of the players.

Ideally both Hasnain and Haris (The Two H’s) should play because they are the most experienced in Australian conditions with solid showings in the BBL. Ofc, management is allergic to logic so won’t consider this.
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Wasim Jnr has better stats is a better fielding and can bat and can bowl at the death.
 
shamaan said:
Wasim Jnr has better stats is a better fielding and can bat and can bowl at the death.
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Stats without context are irrelevant. Wasims stats have been bolstered up mainly through performance in the last series against a bottom rung team and an underperforming NZ. Hasnain sat out that series (except 1 match through illness).

I've already posted Hasnain's opening spell stats since his return in this thread. Wasim hasnt done anything remotely as impressive ever in his career.

The only direct comparison we have is the series against England that both of them played and their performances are below

Wasim 4 matches Hasnain 4 matches
30 of 3.2 overs. 51 of 4 overs
32 of 4 overs. 36 of 4 overs
29 of 2.3 overs. 40 of 4 overs
61 of 4 overs. 32 of 4 overs

As you can see, twice Wasim wasn't even allowed to complete his quote of overs. Hasnains ER in first spells( 2 overs) was 7.3 vs 8.9 of Wasim. Hasnain on average picked up a wicket every time in his first 2 overs.

I have nothing against Wasim. It's only that I can't see him ever developing into a bowler whos good enough to play international cricket consistently. He hasn't displayed any appreciable ability to swing or seam the ball, has a slingy action that doesn't generate much bounce and his pace is 135ish on average which is military medium for the modern day cricket batsman.
Yes he is a better batsman and fielder than Hasnain but that's not the primary attribute were looking at. We're looking for a genuine bowler.
 
Hasnain has Mohammad Sami issues.

He isn't growing. Just stuck.

Between him, Waseem, Qadir and Dahani, no one gives confidence they will turn up when the captain is desperate.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Hasnain has Mohammad Sami issues.

He isn't growing. Just stuck.

Between him, Waseem, Qadir and Dahani, no one gives confidence they will turn up when the captain is desperate.
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Come on now, but unfair to lump Hasnain with Sami. Sami didn’t grow his entire career, Hasnain is still in the initial stages of his.

We gotta be patient with our fast bowlers. Gotta show them the same patience teams like England and India show to their young batsmen. They may fail initially, but show enough potential and promise to come good in 1-3 years, and then carry the lineup for years to come.
 
Grunge101 said:
Stats without context are irrelevant. Wasims stats have been bolstered up mainly through performance in the last series against a bottom rung team and an underperforming NZ. Hasnain sat out that series (except 1 match through illness).

I've already posted Hasnain's opening spell stats since his return in this thread. Wasim hasnt done anything remotely as impressive ever in his career.

The only direct comparison we have is the series against England that both of them played and their performances are below

Wasim 4 matches Hasnain 4 matches
30 of 3.2 overs. 51 of 4 overs
32 of 4 overs. 36 of 4 overs
29 of 2.3 overs. 40 of 4 overs
61 of 4 overs. 32 of 4 overs

As you can see, twice Wasim wasn't even allowed to complete his quote of overs. Hasnains ER in first spells( 2 overs) was 7.3 vs 8.9 of Wasim. Hasnain on average picked up a wicket every time in his first 2 overs.

I have nothing against Wasim. It's only that I can't see him ever developing into a bowler whos good enough to play international cricket consistently. He hasn't displayed any appreciable ability to swing or seam the ball, has a slingy action that doesn't generate much bounce and his pace is 135ish on average which is military medium for the modern day cricket batsman.
Yes he is a better batsman and fielder than Hasnain but that's not the primary attribute were looking at. We're looking for a genuine bowler.
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Hasnain is a spray gun and can't bowl at the death like Wasim showed today that he's a level above Hasnain
 
Wasim justified his selection today and so did naseem. Even SSA was OK in the 2nd spell. Hasnain will have to wait his turn now.
 
bones said:
Wasim justified his selection today and so did naseem. Even SSA was OK in the 2nd spell. Hasnain will have to wait his turn now.
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I agree, Wasim justified his selection yesterday although I'm still to be convinced on his potential as a long term prospect.

Hasnain should still have played in place of Shaheen who is clearly either still unfit or atleast not match fit.
 
Grunge101 said:
I agree, Wasim justified his selection yesterday although I'm still to be convinced on his potential as a long term prospect.

Hasnain should still have played in place of Shaheen who is clearly either still unfit or atleast not match fit.
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Yep. We kept Hasnain and Fakhar in our back pockets while a half fit Shaheen and Haider/Asif all 3 of him are struggling played the games while we were still in the hunt for a semi final spot.

We’re still technically in the race for semis, but the odds are low. Shaheen needs to be rested before something happens to him and Hasnain needs to be brought in.

It’s baffling that the guy who played the Australian t20 league and did well in it is benched in a t20 tournament in Australia…
 
Suleiman said:
Yep. We kept Hasnain and Fakhar in our back pockets while a half fit Shaheen and Haider/Asif all 3 of him are struggling played the games while we were still in the hunt for a semi final spot.

We’re still technically in the race for semis, but the odds are low. Shaheen needs to be rested before something happens to him and Hasnain needs to be brought in.

It’s baffling that the guy who played the Australian t20 league and did well in it is benched in a t20 tournament in Australia…
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Misbah expressed his bafflement at the same issue. To quote his words " we chose to play a half fit Shaheen in a WC game whilst a 150km/hr pacer was left waiting in the wings on a traditional Perth pitch"
 
Bowled beautifully today.

Once again let down by the Quetta batters.

Lovely rhythm to his bowling.
 
Has bowled beautifully today but his speeds gave taken a hit.. used to be regularly in late 140s and touched 150s too…now many of his bowlswere in late 130s..in this PSL!!dont know whether its intentioned..reduced speed for more control ..or some other reason
 
Lovely Yorker to bowl Wiese. He may not be 150kph any more but he is certainly more accurate and probably effective.
 
I hope he fails and disappears into the abyss along with the rest of Pakistan Cricket
 
Quetta Gladiators' Mohammad Hasnain has not shown improvement, delivering an expensive spell of 51 runs in 4 overs, despite taking 2 wickets against Lahore Qalandars in PSL 9.
 
Rubbish bowler. How can you be 6ft+, bowl 150+ and still be less threatening than a spinner.

He's the softest fast bowler of all time.

TERRIBLE fielder too.
 
Even if you have Hasnain 10.0, with this attitude and mentality nothing will change. Speed is one thing, but you also need the intelligence and skill to know where to land the ball and and how to set up a batsman. But prayers are with him, hopefully he improves.
 
I think after modifying his action he is bowling well and it has also helped him to increase his pace a bit. He has bowled the fastest delivery in PSL 9.
 
ataullah said:
Most of us are sick of pak cricket team now. Nothing has changed in 30 years of supporting them
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I agree, though I think team was still decent before the Misbah years. But now after beating after beating, I'm desensitised to it all. The team is run by a cartel that is only self serving and there are no explosive players or stars to provide any hope.

Our main arguments are about the likes Rizwan and Iftikhar on here, this is how low our stocks have become.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
I think after modifying his action he is bowling well and it has also helped him to increase his pace a bit. He has bowled the fastest delivery in PSL 9.
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Not bowling that well, to be honest, He is bowling fast but he is not bowling a channel that he should be bowling with that pace. Getting smashed in every game till now in the PSL is not good-looking stuff. Needs to work harder
 
FearlessRoar said:
Quetta Gladiators' Mohammad Hasnain has not shown improvement, delivering an expensive spell of 51 runs in 4 overs, despite taking 2 wickets against Lahore Qalandars in PSL 9.
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While watching him play in the PSL or international cricket, Mohammad Hasnain has never been an economical bowler. Today, once again, against Islamabad United in PSL 9, he finished with figures of 1/35 in 4 overs with an economy rate of 8.75.
 
-Can’t bowl properly

-Can’t touch the ball with the bat

-Can’t catch/field properly

The true definition of a nothing cricketer= Mohammad Hasnain
 
Things still not going well for Hasnain, as he has been replaced by Rilee Rossouw after an expensive first over of 0/15 against PZ. Will he do the damage control later?
 
A poor decision by Rilee Rossouw to let him complete his spell. He ends up with a forgettable spell of 1/52 in four overs.

 
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