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[PICTURES/VIDEOS] PSL should go head to head with IPL

The idea of having the PSL go head-to-head with the IPL is still ridiculous. This genius move is only going to hurt the PSL tournament.
 
@cricketjoshila I've also just discovered the BCCI scrapped the IPL release fees from the 2021 season, so are presumably now only paying the 10% every other board has to pay.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Link please.
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Here's the ICC press release confirming it was approved:

Moving forwards, new events requiring a sanction will need to ensure the playing XI of each team will include a minimum of seven local or Associate Member players to support the development of the game. Additionally, a solidarity fee will be payable from the organising Member to the Home Board of a player to reflect the role the Member played in developing and promoting the sport globally.
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www.icc-cricket.com

ICC announces equal prize money for men’s and women’s teams at ICC events

www.icc-cricket.com www.icc-cricket.com
 
PSL can take advantage now as IPL auction is done and many good international players are left out so PSL can be their 2nd home. BCCI might try to thread those players if they chose to play PSL, they will lose next year IPL as well etc etc.

Let's see
 
cricketjoshila said:
It was proposed. Don't think it passed.
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From the 2021/22 financial report:

c) RELEASE FEE TO FOREIGN BOARDS
The Board has discontinued the policy of paying Release fees to the Foreign Cricket Boards from IPL Season 2021 and onwards. This has been approved by IPL Governing Council in its meeting dated 4th January 2021.
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HitWicket said:
Could you provide a reliable source for this please?
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Foreign boards also make money when their players are picked​

Overseas cricket boards also benefit financially when their players participate in the IPL. For overseas players, 20% of the final auction bid is shared with their respective national board, with this fee drawn from the IPL’s central revenue pool. For example, in the case of Jos Buttler, who was the highest-paid foreign player in the IPL Auction 2025, the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) will receive Rs 3.15 crore because the wicketkeeper-batter went for Rs 15.75 crore. This money comes from the IPL central revenue pool and not from the player’s salary.

www.firstpost.com

IPL salary structure explained: How much do players earn from their bids? What extras do they get?

A total of Rs 639.15 crore was spent in the IPL Auction 2025 as Rishabh Pant and Shreyas Iyer were sold for Rs 27 crore and Rs 26.75 crore, but will they take home the whole amount. We explain how much IPL players earn from their actual bidding amount and the entire salary structure.
www.firstpost.com www.firstpost.com

So the money now comes from the central pool and hence franchisees share the burden.
 
cricketjoshila said:

Foreign boards also make money when their players are picked​

Overseas cricket boards also benefit financially when their players participate in the IPL. For overseas players, 20% of the final auction bid is shared with their respective national board, with this fee drawn from the IPL’s central revenue pool. For example, in the case of Jos Buttler, who was the highest-paid foreign player in the IPL Auction 2025, the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) will receive Rs 3.15 crore because the wicketkeeper-batter went for Rs 15.75 crore. This money comes from the IPL central revenue pool and not from the player’s salary.

www.firstpost.com

IPL salary structure explained: How much do players earn from their bids? What extras do they get?

A total of Rs 639.15 crore was spent in the IPL Auction 2025 as Rishabh Pant and Shreyas Iyer were sold for Rs 27 crore and Rs 26.75 crore, but will they take home the whole amount. We explain how much IPL players earn from their actual bidding amount and the entire salary structure.
www.firstpost.com www.firstpost.com

So the money now comes from the central pool and hence franchisees share the burden.
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The BCCIs financial statements show the release fees were always considered an expenditure against the central revenue pool. This is clearly an article by a journalist who has missed the BCCI sneaking through the removal of the release fee.
 
HitWicket said:
The BCCIs financial statements show the release fees were always considered an expenditure against the central revenue pool. This is clearly an article by a journalist who has missed the BCCI sneaking through the removal of the release fee.
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First post is owned by JioStar. They are as close to BCCI as anyone can get.

If they are reporting it then it's true.

Only 50 per cent of the central revenue pool is BCCI's own revenue. The distribution will take into account this 20 per cent payable to boards via Franchisees.

During IPL auctions pre shows every journalist referred to this release fee. With some asking for the BCCI to hold back the entire release fee if a board pulls out a player suddenly.
 
cricketjoshila said:
First post is owned by JioStar. They are as close to BCCI as anyone can get.

If they are reporting it then it's true.

Only 50 per cent of the central revenue pool is BCCI's own revenue. The distribution will take into account this 20 per cent payable to boards via Franchisees.

During IPL auctions pre shows every journalist referred to this release fee. With some asking for the BCCI to hold back the entire release fee if a board pulls out a player suddenly.
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Yes, firstpost are right and the BCCIs own independently audited financial statements are wrong, that must clearly be the case...

All of the IPLs central revenue from media rights, tournament sponsorships, ticket sales etc. is the BCCIs revenue. A portion of that is then distributed to the franchises and another portion distributed to the state associations (both classified as a cost to the BCCI). Previously the release fees were also taken out of that revenue (like the article you've linked to currently suggests it still is), since 2021 that has no longer been happening.
 
HitWicket said:
Yes, firstpost are right and the BCCIs own independently audited financial statements are wrong, that must clearly be the case...

All of the IPLs central revenue from media rights, tournament sponsorships, ticket sales etc. is the BCCIs revenue. A portion of that is then distributed to the franchises and another portion distributed to the state associations (both classified as a cost to the BCCI). Previously the release fees were also taken out of that revenue (like the article you've linked to currently suggests it still is), since 2021 that has no longer been happening.
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Till 2020 BCCI used to pay the release fees. That was changed. Now its paid from the central pool as expenses paid to franchisees.

Incorrect. Only playoffs ticket sales are BCCI's rest ticket sales go to respective franchisees.

In 2018, the release fee was raised to 20 per cent. In 2020 Jay Shah raised the issue that BCCI should not be paying this fees.

Earlier the BCCI was paying this fees because the franchisees were not making enough money. But since they were now all profitable they should be paying it.

Hence BCCI stopped paying and the money is now paid from the central pool payable to the franchisees as franchise expenses.
 
Bewal Express said:
Really? do you think that acceptable if it wasn't agreed before hand through the contract
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A person wants to hire the other teacher temporarily for a few weeks and is willing to pay the school compensation for that and the school allows.

Another person wants to hire you temporarily for a few weeks but isn't willing to pay the same compensation and school disallows.

Its fair.
 
Bewal Express said:
Nothing to do with the law. The judge will ask where does the law stand, and Nothing else.
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Law stands that ECB is getting compensated for absence of its players and they are ready to accept that compensation. Its their discretion. Tommorow they may ask the BCCI more money.
 
cricketjoshila said:
A person wants to hire the other teacher temporarily for a few weeks and is willing to pay the school compensation for that and the school allows.

Another person wants to hire you temporarily for a few weeks but isn't willing to pay the same compensation and school disallows.

Its fair.
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As long as it's part of the contract. This is them suddenly changing the contract whilst at the same time, allowing others under the same contract to do something different, and that's why they won't win. They could let current contracts run down and then they can force any contract they want.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Law stands that ECB is getting compensated for absence of its players and they are ready to accept that compensation. Its their discretion. Tommorow they may ask the BCCI more money.
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That is nothing to do with the law, that's just an agreement with the IPL.
 
Bewal Express said:
As long as it's part of the contract. This is them suddenly changing the contract whilst at the same time, allowing others under the same contract to do something different, and that's why they won't win. They could let current contracts run down and then they can force any contract they want.
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Have you read the contracts?
 
cricketjoshila said:
There is no agreement with the IPL and ECB. Players have agreement with the IPL and franchisees. Its the players duty to produce the NoC.
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It makes no difference the ECB can't stop them if they are not under contract or contracts are inconsistently enforced. I am not sure if you understand how the law works here. It's not Ind, where you can murder 1000s and become PM
 
cricketjoshila said:
Till 2020 BCCI used to pay the release fees. That was changed. Now its paid from the central pool as expenses paid to franchisees.
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Once again, the central revenue is the BCCIs revenue, that is then partially redistributed to the franchises.

cricketjoshila said:
Incorrect. Only playoffs ticket sales are BCCI's rest ticket sales go to respective franchisees.
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All ticket sales are part of the central revenue/BCCIs revenue, they are then redistributed to the franchises under whatever the terms are they've agreed.

cricketjoshila said:
Hence BCCI stopped paying and the money is now paid from the central pool payable to the franchisees as franchise expenses.
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If it's being paid from the central pool then it's still being paid by the BCCI because that is literally their revenue. The accounts show that is not happening.
 
Bewal Express said:
Really? do you think that acceptable if it wasn't agreed before hand through the contract
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The contracts will require the player to be available for the full season. If they then want to allow case by case exceptions to the contract then that is fine.
 
Bewal Express said:
If that is the case then players won't be released for IPL and if they are, the court would throw them out. You can't make up the rules as you go along.
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We've already established you have no idea what you're talking about, we're just going in circles now. To put it simply:


The players contracts require them to be available for the entire season.

The counties can temporarily release players from this requirement on a case by case basis.

As long as they are not basing the decision on a person's characteristics they are free to make different decisions for different players (and tournaments) as they see fit.


This is all completely legal, hence the PCA haven't even hinted at legal action.
 
HitWicket said:
We've already established you have no idea what you're talking about, we're just going in circles now. To put it simply:


The players contracts require them to be available for the entire season.

The counties can temporarily release players from this requirement on a case by case basis.

As long as they are not basing the decision on a person's characteristics they are free to make different decisions for different players (and tournaments) as they see fit.


This is all completely legal, hence the PCA haven't even hinted at legal action.
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And we have established that you know as much as your friend. The legal challenges will come and they will lose.
"From a legal perspective I’m pretty confident it could be challenged,” the agent said, suggesting that the new approach could lead to players retiring from red-ball cricket prematurely. “It is actually going to do the opposite of what they are trying to do. If you are an England player coming off a central contract - why would you commit to a full county deal which could impact earnings in PSL or elsewhere?”
 
Bewal Express said:
And we have established that you know as much as your friend. The legal challenges will come and they will lose.
"From a legal perspective I’m pretty confident it could be challenged,” the agent said, suggesting that the new approach could lead to players retiring from red-ball cricket prematurely. “It is actually going to do the opposite of what they are trying to do. If you are an England player coming off a central contract - why would you commit to a full county deal which could impact earnings in PSL or elsewhere?”
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Not much point continuing to go around in circles then, I hope you'll be honourable enough to come back and admit you were wrong when there's been no hint of a legal challenge of this in the next few months.
 
HitWicket said:
Not much point continuing to go around in circles then, I hope you'll be honourable enough to come back and admit you were wrong when there's been no hint of a legal challenge of this in the next few months.
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I told you that had legal grounds and the agents also know it, but no some random Ind knows the law better than people whose job is to know and even If players aren't allowed to play, they will just retire from county cricket.
 
HitWicket said:
Once again, the central revenue is the BCCIs revenue, that is then partially redistributed to the franchises.



All ticket sales are part of the central revenue/BCCIs revenue, they are then redistributed to the franchises under whatever the terms are they've agreed.



If it's being paid from the central pool then it's still being paid by the BCCI because that is literally their revenue. The accounts show that is not happening.
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What are you even talking.

All ticket sales are not part of central revenue pool. This isn't PSL where 2-3 venues host all matches and ticket revenue is shared. Here all teams have their venues which they take by paying the respective state association. The ticket sales goes to the home franchisee so does the in ground sponsorship that the home franchisee sells.

Money from the central pool is used to pay the boards release fees. Earlier BCCI used to pay it separately and not from the central revenue pool. Bcci has many sources of revenue other than IPL central pool.

Entire central pool isn't BCCI revenue, franchisees are 50 per cent partner of that revenue pool. So if anything is paid out from the 50 per cent share of the franchisees its being paid by the franchisees.
 
cricketjoshila said:
What are you even talking.

All ticket sales are not part of central revenue pool. This isn't PSL where 2-3 venues host all matches and ticket revenue is shared. Here all teams have their venues which they take by paying the respective state association. The ticket sales goes to the home franchisee so does the in ground sponsorship that the home franchisee sells.

Money from the central pool is used to pay the boards release fees. Earlier BCCI used to pay it separately and not from the central revenue pool. Bcci has many sources of revenue other than IPL central pool.

Entire central pool isn't BCCI revenue, franchisees are 50 per cent partner of that revenue pool. So if anything is paid out from the 50 per cent share of the franchisees its being paid by the franchisees.
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Ticketing is handled centrally, the BCCI collect all ticketing revenue as part of the tournaments central revenue and then redistribute the relevant shares.

The ticketing revenue, along with the rest of the entire central revenue pool, is therefore part of the BCCIs revenue. Any costs that are taken out of that central revenue pool have to be accounted for on their financial statements. One of those costs is the distributions to the franchise owners. The release fees are not accounted for on those financial statements anymore therefore are not taken from the central revenue pool.
 
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Bewal Express said:
I told you that had legal grounds and the agents also know it, but no some random Ind knows the law better than people whose job is to know and even If players aren't allowed to play, they will just retire from county cricket.
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I'm English... A single unnamed agent (most of which are former players with no legal experience) saying that is not particularly telling. The fact the PCA haven't event suggested they'll be pursuing it legally is.

Can you give us an example of a single player you think will retire before the start of the season as a result of this rule change? I can guarantee you they won't.
 
HitWicket said:
I'm English... A single unnamed agent (most of which are former players with no legal experience) saying that is not particularly telling. The fact the PCA haven't event suggested they'll be pursuing it legally is.

Can you give us an example of a single player you think will retire before the start of the season as a result of this rule change? I can guarantee you they won't.
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Firstly you claimed there was nothing and now its a single agent. And i bet you think he is the only one 🤣🥰🥰

Players will show their cards and you will see. A lot will look at cost benefit analysis and make a decision because it's all about the money.
 
Bewal Express said:
Firstly you claimed there was nothing and now its a single agent. And i bet you think he is the only one 🤣🥰🥰

Players will show their cards and you will see. A lot will look at cost benefit analysis and make a decision because it's all about the money.
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I said there will be no legal challenges (which will end up true) and that the PCA haven't even hinted at a legal challenge (which is true), not sure where you've seen me say anything other than that?

Go on, give us an example of a single player...
 
HitWicket said:
I said there will be no legal challenges (which will end up true) and that the PCA haven't even hinted at a legal challenge (which is true), not sure where you've seen me say anything other than that?

Go on, give us an example of a single player...
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You said means nothing. The PCA have already asked for clarification. But you can't accept the humiliation of me quoting you an active agent. You claimed there was nothing at all.
 
HitWicket said:
Will be back in touch in April when this rule is being enforced, no one's legally challenged it, and no one's retired.
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alas, time will prove only one of us right. Let's wait a few months to see who wasted whose time
 
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HitWicket said:
Ticketing is handled centrally, the BCCI collect all ticketing revenue as part of the tournaments central revenue and then redistribute the relevant shares.

The ticketing revenue, along with the rest of the entire central revenue pool, is therefore part of the BCCIs revenue. Any costs that are taken out of that central revenue pool have to be accounted for on their financial statements. One of those costs is the distributions to the franchise owners. The release fees are not accounted for on those financial statements anymore therefore are not taken from the central revenue pool.
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Ticketing is not handled centrally and each franchisee has different platforms to sell their tickets. You sir have no idea about this.

Next time when IPL season starts visit website of each franchisee and you will see that they use different agents. This isn't done by BCCI and isn't part of the central pool.

Even the BCCI'S annual report on IPL mentions on ticket sales from playoffs in their revenue.

The expenses are mentioned under amount payable to franchisees.
 
HitWicket said:
I said there will be no legal challenges (which will end up true) and that the PCA haven't even hinted at a legal challenge (which is true), not sure where you've seen me say anything other than that?

Go on, give us an example of a single player...
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Legal challenge on the basis of what? That a organisation is refusing to release its employee?

IPL even if we consider the 10 per cent release fee pays much more than PSL because the salary is much higher.

So its no comparison.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Ticketing is not handled centrally and each franchisee has different platforms to sell their tickets. You sir have no idea about this.

Next time when IPL season starts visit website of each franchisee and you will see that they use different agents. This isn't done by BCCI and isn't part of the central pool.

Even the BCCI'S annual report on IPL mentions on ticket sales from playoffs in their revenue.

The expenses are mentioned under amount payable to franchisees.
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The BCCIs financial statements for 2022/23 show 115 crore of ticketing revenue across both group and knockout games as part of their revenue and therefore part of the central revenue pool.
 
HitWicket said:
The BCCIs financial statements for 2022/23 show 115 crore of ticketing revenue across both group and knockout games as part of their revenue and therefore part of the central revenue pool.
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This is the income and expenditure of IPL 2024. Ticket revenue is for playoffs only.
 

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