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Consecutive fifties for Babar Azam

Brining up his fifty off 64 balls in third ODI again south Africa
 
Another soft dismissal. Exactly the same way he was dismissed in the second ODI. I have seen him get dismissed like that on so many occasions. He just doesn't learn. A perfect opportunity to score consecutive hundreds and he throws it away on both occasions. Very frustrating.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Consecutive fifties for Babar Azam

Brining up his fifty off 64 balls in third ODI again south Africa
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That's why cricket pundits talk a lot about bat angles—this is how Babar Azam lost his wicket after scoring 52 off 71 in the 3rd ODI against South Africa.

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Another selfish knock. He does not care about the match. Its like every time he bats, its like a friendly game for him. Also the way he gets out most of the times like a copy of so many dismissals.
 
pakistani pride said:
Another selfish knock. He does not care about the match. Its like every time he bats, its like a friendly game for him. Also the way he gets out most of the times like a copy of so many dismissals.
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SR of 73 when every other batsman had 100 plus SR.

It was also 70-80 balls consumed. It costed Pakistan 30-40 runs.

Anyway, Good total despite Babar's slow knock. SA has to bat well here to get the total.
 
Both of the innings were decent but not great, but it's a good sign he's getting his form back. Saim Fakhar Babar combo firing can win us the ct
 
Babar Azam has maintained his remarkable dominance in the ODI format, finishing the calendar year as the top-ranked ODI cricketer for the fourth consecutive time.

Good to see him scoring some runs now as CT is approaching and he can be a key for Pakistani batting lineup
 
MHN1293 said:
Both of the innings were decent but not great, but it's a good sign he's getting his form back. Saim Fakhar Babar combo firing can win us the ct
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Things have changed in the 2 new ball era. Now, an ODI innings is judged more on it's SR. Not to say SR didn't matter before, it did matter a lot. But now it matters even more, so much that even a 150+ innings won't be rated much if it doesn't come at a fantastic SR.

How else do you explain guys like Ganguly and Inzamam being considered good ODI batsmen with SR of 73 and 74 respectively?​
 
Gone for 4 in the 1st test against SOuth Africa...

the poor run continues... That was a nothing shot and the his famous poke at the ball that was at almost 8th stump
 
400 runs completed for babar azam and is only the third player to score over 4,000 runs in all three formats of the game before he got out for just 4.
 
Rana said:
Maybe we should have a poll,

Will Babar get to 5k Test runs in his career?
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Not possible, his test career is finished. Should save grace and try his level best to ensure he becomes an odi great and plays one days only
 
Useless useless test cricketer. Total rubbish. Huge huge insult to compare him to Travis head in any capacity.
 
Babar does not have the chops for Red ball cricket. Too much white ball stuff has fried his brain. He was never a natural in the long form but one hoped that he would crack it some day. There were some good signs a couple of years back but he has regressed a lot since. These are his peak years and he is averaging sub 20 for 2 years and has not crossed fifty in 18 innings.

Needs a full county season to get his career back on track. Steady dose of red ball cricket. Does he care? I don't think so. Pakistan's great white hope is a dud. It's OVER. The fat lady is singing.
 
Rana said:
Imagine ending your career with more T20i runs than Test runs, whilst being touted as better than Inzimam, Yousuf and Miandad
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Miandad is test best for Pak even Saeed Anwar in test is in different league than Babar. Babar should focus on t20 and odi
 
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If you can't post without respecting others or calling names, don't post.
 
During the broadcast of Day 2 of the 1st Test between South Africa and Pakistan, Hashim Amla offered valuable advice to Babar Azam regarding his struggles with form:

“The bar you set and the runs you accumulate make batting seem easy. When runs are flowing, you don’t think much about the technical aspects of your batting. But during tough times, when you go through a few low scores, doubts start creeping in. The best way to overcome this is to go back to a trusted coach because, when you’re not scoring, you’ll have 15-20 people giving advice. The key is to filter the good advice from the bad. While everyone may mean well, not all advice is good for you. The ability to sift through and take only what’s beneficial is crucial for anyone in a tough patch.”
 
Marooned said:
Everyone knows he won't even make a 50.

What we need from him is a 70-80 score but there's no chance of that happening.
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Babar has a history of getting out in the first over of the next day no matter what his score is
 
Inkling feeling: Jansen around the wicket angling it away from a length…Babar nicks off to keeper or slips being drawn in.
 
Time to stand up Mr. Babar tomorrow is the day
 
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The cricket world really wants him to succeed.

He needs a valuable score tomorrow otherwise needs resting for himself and the betterment of team PK.

Pressure has consumed him
 
This is why pakistani fans need to get a hold of themselves.

Their fans and still certain fans are very very desperate on wanting babar to be the no 1 test, odi and t20 player that Pakistan has ever produced but in your own hearts your lying to yourselves.

First you guys wanted him to be Pakistan's answer to Kohli, now you guys want him to be Pakistan's answer towards Travis head or a part of the fab 4 etc etc.

But he just isn't good enough.

First and foremost he was always a medicore test and t20 player. Let's get that out of the way first. That automatically disqualifes him from being in warner's, kohli's, Travis's, KP, Gayle's class etc etc.

Secondly he's essentially just shai hope at this point aka a bang avg player but with a high avg and high century count tally due to playing medicore teams.

Wc 2023 × wc 2019 exposed everything.

In wc 2019, I dont think England had a single batter that was worse then babar azam lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
This is why pakistani fans need to get a hold of themselves.

Their fans and still certain fans are very very desperate on wanting babar to be the no 1 test, odi and t20 player that Pakistan has ever produced but in your own hearts your lying to yourselves.

First you guys wanted him to be Pakistan's answer to Kohli, now you guys want him to be Pakistan's answer towards Travis head or a part of the fab 4 etc etc.

But he just isn't good enough.

First and foremost he was always a medicore test and t20 player. Let's get that out of the way first. That automatically disqualifes him from being in warner's, kohli's, Travis's, KP, Gayle's class etc etc.

Secondly he's essentially just shai hope at this point aka a bang avg player but with a high avg and high century count tally due to playing medicore teams.

Wc 2023 × wc 2019 exposed everything.

In wc 2019, I dont think England had a single batter that was worse then babar azam lol.
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What did wc 2019 expose? That he had the best ever wc campaign for a Pakistani debutant? He was comfortably better than every single English batter in the group stages.Only Roys and stokes clutch innings in the knockouts pulled them ahead tho.
 
MHN1293 said:
What did wc 2019 expose? That he had the best ever wc campaign for a Pakistani debutant? He was comfortably better than every single English batter in the group stages.Only Roys and stokes clutch innings in the knockouts pulled them ahead tho.
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What are you even on about

Root had 61 avg, 89 SR + 556 runs at no 3 in that tournament followed by Bairstow having a 48 avg 92 st and 532 runs.

Both root and bairstow scored 2 centuries and 3 50's in that cup as well.

Heck Jason Roy was a monster in that cup 66 avg + 115 sr + 1 century in same cup.

Stokes had similar numbers?

Babar just kept a similar avg to these guys at 67 but his sr isn't within bootlicking distance. He played slower then root in said cup, and failed when it mattered the most.

Clueless against India and Australia as always. Good to see that he came through vs eng and nz.

The entire England team, including Morgan who broke the record no of sixes in a single game vs Afghanistan + Butler and many others performed better then he did.

He wasn't > any English batter from 2019. Your bias is clearly showing here
 
Had someone like Jason Roy existed in pakistan, he would have never been dropped since a 39 avg batter who strikes at 105sr would be an odi and t20 godsend for pakistan and someone like Abdullah would get kicked to the curb for Roy.

Heck if the choice came between babar vs Roy, any franchise league would choose roy 10 out of 10 times.

But England isn't pakistan. They already found a replacement for roy who was fizzling out and that replacement is Harry Brooks who will probably retire as one of England's best test batsmen and probably England's 2nd best all format batsmen after KP.
 
mominsaigol said:
What are you even on about

Root had 61 avg, 89 SR + 556 runs at no 3 in that tournament followed by Bairstow having a 48 avg 92 st and 532 runs.

Both root and bairstow scored 2 centuries and 3 50's in that cup as well.

Heck Jason Roy was a monster in that cup 66 avg + 115 sr + 1 century in same cup.

Stokes had similar numbers?

Babar just kept a similar avg to these guys at 67 but his sr isn't within bootlicking distance. He played slower then root in said cup, and failed when it mattered the most.

Clueless against India and Australia as always. Good to see that he came through vs eng and nz.

The entire England team, including Morgan who broke the record no of sixes in a single game vs Afghanistan + Butler and many others performed better then he did.

He wasn't > any English batter from 2019. Your bias is clearly showing here
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I alr said roy and stokes were better. Your argument for root and bairstow being better is that they have lower avg, basically the same sr and 70-80 more runs in 3 more innings? Babar was clueless against India Aus but root was clueless against Aus+India+nz. He literally farmed the bottom 5 teams more than Babar but your bias doesn't allow you to see that. Even his semi final innings was decent but wasn't consequential at all. Then he went ahead and flopped in the final. Bairstow also failed both time against aus. Failed in both knockouts, failed against Pak. Butter literally only performed in 3/11 matches. All 3 were monstrous performances though.
 
MHN1293 said:
I alr said roy and stokes were better. Your argument for root and bairstow being better is that they have lower avg, basically the same sr and 70-80 more runs in 3 more innings? Babar was clueless against India Aus but root was clueless against Aus+India+nz. He literally farmed the bottom 5 teams more than Babar but your bias doesn't allow you to see that. Even his semi final innings was decent but wasn't consequential at all. Then he went ahead and flopped in the final. Bairstow also failed both time against aus. Failed in both knockouts, failed against Pak. Butter literally only performed in 3/11 matches. All 3 were monstrous performances though.
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They also have 2 more centuries and bairstow doesn't have basically the same sr. A 91 sr vs 86 in odi is a massive massive difference. One that people don't recognise the value of.
 
Babar against top 5 teams other than his own in the world Cup:
5 innings 311 runs
62 runs per innings
77.5avg 87 sr


Joe root against top 5 teams other than his own in the World Cup:

7 innings 290 runs
41.5 runs per innings
48.3 avg 89

Bairstow against top 5 teams other than his own in the world Cup
7 innings 346 runs
50 runs per innings
49.4 avg 92 sr
mominsaigol said:
They also have 2 more centuries and bairstow doesn't have basically the same sr. A 91 sr vs 86 in odi is a massive massive difference. One that people don't recognise the value of
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Based on your own logic root is worse? His sr is 85 and babars is 88, massive massive difference. And his extra century came against the west Indies. That's basically the same as Babars 96 against Bangladesh. I can hear the argument of Bairstow being better because of his twin centuries against Ind Aus but root is laughable
 
MHN1293 said:
Babar against top 5 teams other than his own in the world Cup:
5 innings 311 runs
62 runs per innings
77.5avg 87 sr


Joe root against top 5 teams other than his own in the World Cup:

7 innings 290 runs
41.5 runs per innings
48.3 avg 89

Bairstow against top 5 teams other than his own in the world Cup
7 innings 346 runs
50 runs per innings
49.4 avg 92 sr

Based on your own logic root is worse? His sr is 85 and babars is 88, massive massive difference. And his extra century came against the west Indies. That's basically the same as Babars 96 against Bangladesh. I can hear the argument of Bairstow being better because of his twin centuries against Ind Aus but root is laughable
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What was Babar's score was WI? The same team that you're making fun of? Infact what score was Pakistan bowled out for again?
 
mominsaigol said:
What was Babar's score was WI? The same team that you're making fun of? Infact what score was Pakistan bowled out for again?
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No need to hype up the second worst team in the tournament just because their was a freak result. Clutching at straws here. Sa beat the champions Aus in the 2023 wc and Netherlands beat Sa. Does that makes Babars runs in the 2022 Netherland series suddenly significant?
 
Also aparrently eoin morgan is also better for feasting on a team that went 0-9 while ghosting rest of the tournament 🤣
 
Great chance for babar to play a meaningful inning today but knowing him he won't score much.
 
MHN1293 said:
What did wc 2019 expose? That he had the best ever wc campaign for a Pakistani debutant? He was comfortably better than every single English batter in the group stages.Only Roys and stokes clutch innings in the knockouts pulled them ahead tho.
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Not just debutant. The amount of runs Babar scored in WC 19 are still the highest by any Pakistan in the World Cup history. :)
 
mominsaigol said:
What are you even on about

Root had 61 avg, 89 SR + 556 runs at no 3 in that tournament followed by Bairstow having a 48 avg 92 st and 532 runs.

Both root and bairstow scored 2 centuries and 3 50's in that cup as well.

Heck Jason Roy was a monster in that cup 66 avg + 115 sr + 1 century in same cup.

Stokes had similar numbers?

Babar just kept a similar avg to these guys at 67 but his sr isn't within bootlicking distance. He played slower then root in said cup, and failed when it mattered the most.

Clueless against India and Australia as always. Good to see that he came through vs eng and nz.

The entire England team, including Morgan who broke the record no of sixes in a single game vs Afghanistan + Butler and many others performed better then he did.

He wasn't > any English batter from 2019. Your bias is clearly showing here
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If a clueless Babar is scoring 35,49 runs, imagine the amount of runs a Babar who has clues would score and have scored. You have answers in your own argument that defies what you're trying to prove. Babar averaged 68 at 88 in WC 2019. That is better than Root who averaged 61 at 89 while playing in the home conditions.

I am sure you know that Kane Williamson was awarded as the best player of the WC in '19 and he had staggering SR of 74. :)
 
m.shah said:
Great chance for babar to play a meaningful inning today but knowing him he won't score much.
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I rate his today's inning a very meaningful in the context, only second to Saud that has given a slim chance to Pakistan. Way to go Babar Azam. Finally scoring in the most respected format of the game.
 
So many hinge points in that Test but one of them has to be Babar's 2nd inns dismissal which triggered a match losing collapse.

The scoreboard will say he did his job, maintained his average etc but anyone watching could see how costly that wicket was. SA were getting frustrated.
 
Babar's 50's was one of the worst 50's in test cricket I've ever seen. Freqent edges that landed just short of slip, freqent missed shots that could have easily been knicks, and a drop catch at 32.

He got lucky big time
 
Stop being satisfied with 30s and the odd 50. Concentration is poor and doesn't score enough. He should open and it will force him to concentrate or he needs to be shipped out.
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar's 50's was one of the worst 50's in test cricket I've ever seen. Freqent edges that landed just short of slip, freqent missed shots that could have easily been knicks, and a drop catch at 32.

He got lucky big time
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what is your sample size?
 
Major said:
what is your sample size?
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Way way too big or too long to list them, but I'll name some of them, not ranked in any order and I can't bother naming all of em.

1) Abid Ali's fluke 50 in test followed by him rasing his helmet and celebrating like he won a lottery or scored a triple century was cringe beyond belief, Not to mention a horrid 50 when he should have dismissed multiple times at 10 to 20 mark.

2) Shan 100 against England in the past(not current 150 that he scored at home den) was utterly atrocious. Freqent drop catches and not a single stroke of confidence, Pure fluke innings.

3) Saud's 76 of 159. Look i like saud, but that innings was just bad. Thankfully it's fine as he has a double test ton followed by one of the best hundreds at home den on the very pitch root struggled with. However England showed how to force a result on a dead pitch. Loser attitude from the entire dugout on aiming for a draw.

I still remember imam's loser speech on how you gotta survive if thr opposition smacks you for 600 in one day. Like oh bhai, then stop curating such garbage pitches.

Speaking of which

4) Any of imam's innings in test. Absolutely painful to watch.

5) Pujara's 50 3-4 years ago, Absolutely dreadful.

6) Some of Azhar's Test 50's or 100's have been very very irritating to watch since pakistan could have won those games easily. It's the bare definition of aiming for a draw when theirs virtually no reason to. Again it's saved by the fact that he's scored triple tons, a double test ton in Australia and he was pak's best batter after YK, but some of his knocks are horrible.

7) sunny Gavaskar 50 of 326 in 1985 is definitely the most famous, talk about aiming for a draw for virtually no reason. Indians praise it because sri lanka would have won had sunny not done what he did, but still, what a poor attitude from such a loser nation.

8) also anytime Bavuma scores a test 50 or 100. Just a horrible player that's been covered up and defended due to the fact that he's the only black SA batter in history who can actually hold the bat.

All of his test innings have multiple lucky drs decisons going in his favour thanks to umpire calls and umpires not giving it out amd he's always 1 step away from either an lbw or knick. Very very shaky and fluky 50's.
 
Major said:
what is your sample size?
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Also please stop defending babar and rizwan and misbah all the time and maybe try focusing on good cricketers for once, or maybe try revisiting eras and actually watching inzi, yousaf, saeed or others bat.

Only you can put a shai hope level batter as Pakistan's best odi batter of all time,

Followed by a barely 40 averaging wicket keeping batter batting in Cricket's easiest 2 new ball batting friendly era with only 3 centuries in 10 years of playing international cricket as the 2nd best odi cricketer Pakistan has produced.

And a cricketer with a 74 sr batting in crickets easiest batting era post 2012 when the standard norm was 85+ that too with 0 odi tons as a superior batsmen to Inzimam.

Maafi bhai.
 
Major said:
what is your sample size?
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Basically that's most of his hero Travis Head innings who is a tullaybaaz. These so called Australian fans know nothing about Babar and will just criticize him for no reason. See how the Australian commentators talk about Babar and see how these 1.5 posters talk about him.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Basically that's most of his hero Travis Head innings who is a tullaybaaz. These so called Australian fans know nothing about Babar and will just criticize him for no reason. See how the Australian commentators talk about Babar and see how these 1.5 posters talk about him.
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Na i asked him, cause he only started wtaching cricket after 2015. So was quite curious what exactly is his sample size
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Guess Babar Azam is a wicket keeper just like Hodge.
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Its funny how he talks about worst test innings ever, and he didnt even watch this games.

If he did, we all know him and the other guy would had whined about the catch that did not carry. The silence by them only proved they didnt watch the game....

There source of info is always tiktok and fb reels
 
Major said:
Its funny how he talks about worst test innings ever, and he didnt even watch this games.

If he did, we all know him and the other guy would had whined about the catch that did not carry. The silence by them only proved they didnt watch the game....

There source of info is always tiktok and fb reels
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Some posters have zero knowledge of stats or how statsguru works.
 
Major said:
Na i asked him, cause he only started wtaching cricket after 2015. So was quite curious what exactly is his sample size
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Prove your claim about 2015
 
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Second consecutive Test fifty for Babar Azam. In the nine Tests he played preceding this series, he had aggregated 352 runs at 20.7 with a highest of 41.
 
Gone for 58 in the 1st inning of the 2nd test against Proteas. SOft dismissal.

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Mamoon said:
A big score is just round the corner. He is a world class player and you can’t keep world class players in their prime quiet for long.

I have said many times his best in all formats is yet to come, and the runs will start to flow like never before in 2025 and onwards.
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As I said, this is only the start. 2025 and the next few years will be the best period of his career across all formats.
 
Mamoon said:
As I said, this is only the start. 2025 and the next few years will be the best period of his career across all formats.
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Seems to be regaining his form. 5 fifties in last 6 innings in SA. But needs to convert into bigger scores.
Hopefully 2025 will bring some centuries
 
heddie19 said:
Threat from concentration :(
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How does it feel knowing the guy you rated > Warner or infact pretty much 90% of batters to ever play the game hasn't scored a century since 30th August 2023? In any format?

1 year and 4 months have passed, we are now entering into our 5th month of jan
 
mominsaigol said:
How does it feel knowing the guy you rated > Warner or infact pretty much 90% of batters to ever play the game hasn't scored a century since 30th August 2023? In any format?

1 year and 4 months have passed, we are now entering into our 5th month of jan
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All players have a lean patch. Don't worry you won't have to wait long. Class is permanent. Hard to predict the future but he will get one within the coming 3 months iA.
 
Babar had a mostly successful tour of South Africa, and there are signs that his lean patch is behind him. In fact, in Test cricket, he may have even outperformed his previous performances, as he is still in the process of fully mastering this format. Regardless of his recent struggles, scoring three fifties in four innings is a positive outcome for him.
 
mominsaigol said:
How does it feel knowing the guy you rated > Warner or infact pretty much 90% of batters to ever play the game hasn't scored a century since 30th August 2023? In any format?

1 year and 4 months have passed, we are now entering into our 5th month of jan
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of course, we all know that he has/was been going through a slump. Put some more salt on it, he has played very little Test and ODI cricket in the time frame you have mentioned. But good thing that he is regaining his form across formats. What better than if he is saving his centuries for the Champions Trophy? ;)
 
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