Politics - Pakistani 2018 General Election and post-election discussion

[Mian]

That is quite a big news and works great because PMLN will lose both seats in Chakwal with this strategy

True now we just need to hope the issues between Tamans are not resolved that will dent the vote further

 

[Mian]

6 more hours to go and than we are going to have yaum e nijaat from this corrupt government! Nooras will have to spend from their own pocket now no more govt funds for their jalsas and gatherings

 

[Waseem]

PMLN's candidate Ashraf Gujjar who lost by election against Asad Umar in NA48 also joins PTI and news is Asad brought him to PTI so they must have made some kind of agreement otherwise he is unlikely to get any ticket since PTI already has many candidates.

 

[Mian]

This is the biggest irony, the man who has been the biggest beneficiary of dictatorship in Pakistan's history and even promised to take Zia's mission forward is wholeheartedly supported by them and yet they act like champions of democracy, if you aren't FAKE then Nawaz Sharif should be the last person you should support.

Now they will tell you they don't support Nawaz Sharif but we have seen how they supported the man throughout Panama case knowing extremely well the man is certified corrupt who even accepted money form ISI and Osama Bin Laden in addition to all the looting.

For them anybody who oppose army is a messiah no matter how many trillions he made and how he used army boots and shoulders to get in goverment

 

[Mian]

PMLN's candidate Ashraf Gujjar who lost by election against Asad Umar in NA48 also joins PTI and news is Asad brought him to PTI so they must have made some kind of agreement otherwise he is unlikely to get any ticket since PTI already has many candidates.

I wonder what kind of arrangement because he can't be adjusted on NA seat?

 

[Waseem]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">لوڈ شیڈنگ کا تو خاتمہ نہیں ہوچکا تھا؟ <a href="https://t.co/NrxDTulwqP">https://t.co/NrxDTulwqP</a></p>— Faizan Lakhani (@faizanlakhani) <a href="https://twitter.com/faizanlakhani/status/1002168859711983617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Shahbaz Sharif ki bongian

 

[Waseem]

For them anybody who oppose army is a messiah no matter how many trillions he made and how he used army boots and shoulders to get in goverment

Exactly, Altaf Hussain got their support for years ONLY because he abused Army as well.

 

[LegendInzi]

I always wondered why people like [MENTION=101697]LegendInzi[/MENTION] are hell bent on sending Musharraf to the gallows but never say a word against our worst dictator in history, Zia-ul-Haq. Then I realized that the person the consider as their leader and saviour, Nawaz Sharif, grew up on Zia's lap and hence cannot say anything to Zia.



The people who used the establishment's help to get to power are now crying about giving respect to the voice of the people. What a joke.

This is precisely the problem with post-2011 lot of PTI supporters...they only think in binary, making automatic assumptions, jumping to conclusions. Any criticism of army, and oh you must be a 'Noora', a 'Patwari' bla bla. Since I highlight the ugly face of our army, so I must be N-League worshipper

Fact is: I was here on Pakpassion and on the ground in Multan vehemently supporting PTI during 2013 elections. I don't need anyone's validation but go check out my old posts.

Fact is: I have voted for PTI in ALL the elections that they have contested. Yes, even in the 1997 election when PML-N did a clean-sweep, that's when PTI was still using the diya (lamp) for its election symbol. I doubt if many here were even born then.

 

[Waseem]

I wonder what kind of arrangement because he can't be adjusted on NA seat?

This is a mystery, why would someone like him join at last minute without any assurance of ticket? Surely he is not joining because of nazriya

 

[saeedhk]

Ashraf Gujjar joins the PTI.However, all NA seats are taken and there are no MPA seas for Islamabad. What is the purpose of joining?

 

[Greenstorm]

Sardar Ghulam Abbas on his way to bani gala to join PTI he will probably get ticket on 1 seat of Chakwal while PTI will give second seat to PMLQ candidate Pervez elahi

So there will be no PTI candidate from NA 65 ? So PTI supporters in that constituency will have to vote for Cycle ?

 

[Syed1]

So there will be no PTI candidate from NA 65 ? So PTI supporters in that constituency will have to vote for Cycle ?

Maybe it is an informed decision and PTI voters in that constituency might have been very low. Otherwise PTI has no need to do seat adjustment.

 

[awan_from_soon]

I wonder what kind of arrangement because he can't be adjusted on NA seat?

This is a mystery, why would someone like him join at last minute without any assurance of ticket? Surely he is not joining because of nazriya

Ashraf Gujjar joins the PTI.However, all NA seats are taken and there are no MPA seas for Islamabad. What is the purpose of joining?

The only logical assessment is a senate seat. But I doubt if Gujjar is that valuable? However, with his joining I believe [MENTION=133865]hussain.r97[/MENTION] 's source is correct and Asad Umar is contesting from NA-53 (which has a significant rural portion) and is relying on Gujjar's votebank there.

 

[Mian]

Is it just me or it looks like all the anchor and media channels are now after PTI including ARY? Lagta he kaafi bera paisa lagaya gaya he.

 

[Mian]

The only logical assessment is a senate seat. But I doubt if Gujjar is that valuable? However, with his joining I believe [MENTION=133865]hussain.r97[/MENTION] 's source is correct and Asad Umar is contesting from NA-53 (which has a significant rural portion) and is relying on Gujjar's votebank there.

Anjum Aqeel got billions to buy votes in NA53 and he will invest big there. It's gonna be tough

 

[awan_from_soon]

PTI again show what a bunch of amateurs they really are with their U turn on caretaker CM. For next couple of days you guys will see N league tantrums that those who backtracked twice in 2 days on KPK and Punjab CMs talk about running this country.

Our good wishes aside, but this under 13 team is trying their best to minimize their chances.

Ali Muhammad Khan and Fawad Chaudhry are among the better spokesmen in the party and are lawyers too but i was amazed at their suggestions to try Nawaz Sharif and Asad Durrani under official secrets act. In hindsight it will give the impression to the world that they indeed broke some state secrets and were indeed speaking truth. On the other hand we believe that their outbursts are either lies or lose talk.

And that Peshawar metro is so hard to defend with PTI's past criticism on Lahore metro and orange line train. Not to mention the timing of its execution. Although PTI is still very strong there but it gives them a point to score that PTI are a bunch of demagogues, who criticize for the sake of criticism.
[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] [MENTION=135]Waseem[/MENTION] [MENTION=146984]awan_from_soon[/MENTION]

I am of the opinion that it is better to give the opposition a freehit than play a fixed match. If PTI has woken up late on the Khosa issue, it is better than to not wake up at all and stay mum. It also shows that they give weight to their supporter's opinions.

So, PTI may get hit around the park for a bit, but there is still a long way to go before we can even think about a loss. I am sure, all this will take the backseat once the decision on the anticorruption case comes - PMLN be bowled out and our innings will begin early! IA!

 

[Mian]

IK expelled Farooq Bandiyal from PTI (he joined a few days back). There is no place of rapists in PTI. Btw Farooq Bandiyal spent 20 years in PMLN without any outrage from media. Yeh in sab ki aankh PTI ke time he kyun khulti he?

 

[awan_from_soon]

Anjum Aqeel got billions to buy votes in NA53 and he will invest big there. It's gonna be tough

With Gujjar in the bag, Anjum Aqeel isn't winning anything - period. It isn't even going to be tough, mark my words.

 

[Mian]

With Gujjar in the bag, Anjum Aqeel isn't winning anything - period. It isn't even going to be tough, mark my words.

Are you sure Gujjar is that strong? Aur wese Golra Sharif NA52 me aa raha ya 53? That's gonna help PTI. Ternol is pro PMLN

 

[awan_from_soon]

Are you sure Gujjar is that strong? Aur wese Golra Sharif NA52 me aa raha ya 53? That's gonna help PTI. Ternol is pro PMLN

Gujjar is reasonably strong in the areas of Bari Imam, Bara Kahu and Phul Garan. His addition can at least bring 10k votes to PTI.

Golra Sharif is in NA-54 as is Tarnol.

Much of the less developed and historically pro-PMLN areas of Islamabad are in NA-52. Tariq Fazal is still strong there, but his performance as an MNA has been abysmal. PTI can give a very tough time to him here.

 

[Mian]

Gujjar is reasonably strong in the areas of Bari Imam, Bara Kahu and Phul Garan. His addition can at least bring 10k votes to PTI.

Golra Sharif is in NA-54 as is Tarnol.

Much of the less developed and historically pro-PMLN areas of Islamabad are in NA-52. Tariq Fazal is still strong there, but his performance as an MNA has been abysmal. PTI can give a very tough time to him here.

Oh ok i thought NA-54 is going to be all urban. I wasn't sure if Gujjar got his personal votebank thats great! Yea saw that program where people look really unhappy with Tariq Fazal but PMLN is going to give him ticket so PTI should try to cash the moment

 

[waqar goraya]

Today PTI going to announce tickets for Islamabad seats. Here is what's expected:

NA 52 : Raja Khurram
NA 53 : Ali Awan / Babar Awan / Amir Kiyani.
NA 54 : Asad Umar

Ali Awan is current opposition leader of PTI in Local Government of ISB. Amir Kiyani is the president of PTI in North Punjab.

So, the guy who contested against Doctor fazal won't be entertained?

 

[Mian]

So, the guy who contested against Doctor fazal won't be entertained?

Chaudhry Ilyas Meharban applied for ticket but chances of Raja Khurram are high he was also PTI candidate for ISB mayor.

 

[waqar goraya]

I am of the opinion that it is better to give the opposition a freehit than play a fixed match. If PTI has woken up late on the Khosa issue, it is better than to not wake up at all and stay mum. It also shows that they give weight to their supporter's opinions.

So, PTI may get hit around the park for a bit, but there is still a long way to go before we can even think about a loss. I am sure, all this will take the backseat once the decision on the anticorruption case comes - PMLN be bowled out and our innings will begin early! IA!

See, no one had forced them to nominate Khosa. They had all the time to nominate their choices. Only 2 names were to be selected from the Punjab. And yet they backtracked on their own name after reaching a consensus with govt.

The whole fiasco reeks of incompetence and non-seriousness when you look back at all the rigging. protests.

 

[Mian]

Here is what Fawad tweeted"

Dear All, here is the first batch of PTI Candidates from Sindh the candidates were finalized in the parliamentary board meeting of Sindh province today at the chairman secretariat, (Khurram Sher Zaman and Imran Ismael names are included as Provincial Assembly Candidates)

 

[waqar goraya]

Chaudhry Ilyas Meharban applied for ticket but chances of Raja Khurram are high he was also PTI candidate for ISB mayor.

So, it seems that the decisions were not made today. And they had to decide only one city which has no provincial assembly seats.

Imagine the work when they deliberate on Punjab and KPK ticket distribution.

I think we might well see this process linger on for the entire next month.

 

[waqar goraya]

Here is what Fawad tweeted"

Dear All, here is the first batch of PTI Candidates from Sindh the candidates were finalized in the parliamentary board meeting of Sindh province today at the chairman secretariat, (Khurram Sher Zaman and Imran Ismael names are included as Provincial Assembly Candidates)

So, only these seats were finalized today ? Not much particularly provincial assembly candidates.

 

[Mian]

So, it seems that the decisions were not made today. And they had to decide only one city which has no provincial assembly seats.

Imagine the work when they deliberate on Punjab and KPK ticket distribution.

I think we might well see this process linger on for the entire next month.

Now sure what's going on they were suppose to announce 3 Isb candidates today and instead they announced from Sindh and Khi

 

[Mian]

So, only these seats were finalized today ? Not much particularly provincial assembly candidates.

Interesting to see Imran Ismail isn't being given NA ticket this time and also ALH ticket isn't confirmed yet. Also no mention of Faisal Vawada so far. Alvi seat looks safe and also Ali Zaidi is going to contest from an area where PTI is looking good for most of the areas.

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Farooq Bandial was in PML-N for 20 years?<br>Why have I or anyone else not heard a word about him all these years?<br><br>At least b/c of his entry & exit from PTI now the whole country knows who he is.<br><br>Try googling Shabnam rape case, you'll find zilch. The case was so tightly hushed up.</p>— Mehr Tarar (@MehrTarar) <a href="https://twitter.com/MehrTarar/status/1002251701150208006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">NA 233-Malik Pahar Khan;<br>NA 234-Liaqat Ali Jatoi;<br>NA 235-Karim Ali Jatoi;<br>NA 242-Saif ur Rehman;<br>NA 244-Syed Ali Hyder Zaidi;<br>NA 247-Dr. Arif Alvi<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GE2018</a></p>— Tehreek-e-Insaf (@InsafPK) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsafPK/status/1002255199434665990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">PS 67-Umaid Ali Junejo<br>PS 68- Mohammad Altaf Nizamani<br>PS 69-Syed Zulfiqar Ali Shah<br>PS 78-Zaib Nisa;<br>PS 83-Ahsan Ali Jatoi;<br>PS 84-Sadaqat Ali Jatoi;<br>PS 85-Ashique Ali Zounr;<br>PS 86-Bandah Ali Leghari;<br>PS 99-Haleem Adil Shaikh;<br>PS 110-Khurram Sher Zaman;<br>PS 111-Imran Ismail<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GE2018</a></p>— Tehreek-e-Insaf (@InsafPK) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsafPK/status/1002254962771062784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So i guess Imran Ismail is replacing Samar Ali Khan who refused to contest this time?

 

[Syed1]

Khurram Sher Zaman is the Fixit guy right?

 

[waqar goraya]

Khurram Sher Zaman is the Fixit guy right?

No, he is sitting MPA from Karachi.

 

[waqar goraya]

Schedule for elections announced

As per the schedule, a public notice will be issued on June 1 (tomorrow) notifying the formal start of the election schedule.

Once the notice is issued, all candidates will be able to apply for nomination papers.

The nomination papers can be submitted for scrutiny from June 2 till June 6. From June 7, the ECP will start vetting the candidates. The vetting will continue till June 14.

Candidates and their rivals will be able to appeal the ECP's decision to reject or approve nominations by June 19. The decisions on these appeals will be given by June 26.

The final list of candidates will be issued by June 27, and all shortlisted candidates will have till June 28 to withdraw their nomination papers.

Then, on June 29, the ECP will allot election symbols and bow out to allow the candidates to begin their campaigns in earnest.

In an informal chat outside the commission, the ECP secretary dispelled rumours that the authority had been barred from issuing the schedule at any point.

"We are ready for the election," he said.

He revealed that the raw material for the ballot papers was being imported from France and the UK. Half of it will land in Karachi, and the other half in Islamabad. The ballots will be printed under the army's oversight.

"There has been no decision yet on the deployment of the military to ensure security on election day," he said to another question. "The matter will be taken up with the caretaker government."

He also clarified that there was no bar on foreign observers and media observing the election. "We have issued a code of conduct in this regard," he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1411167/n...emocratic-government-completes-five-year-term

 

[Bewal Express]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Farooq Bandial was in PML-N for 20 years?<br>Why have I or anyone else not heard a word about him all these years?<br><br>At least b/c of his entry & exit from PTI now the whole country knows who he is.<br><br>Try googling Shabnam rape case, you'll find zilch. The case was so tightly hushed up.</p>— Mehr Tarar (@MehrTarar) <a href="https://twitter.com/MehrTarar/status/1002251701150208006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Now i know why the Nooras on the forum have not brought this up today. But on a more serious note, how the hell did the PTI let this cretin in.

 

[hussain.r97]

Khurram Sher Zaman is the Fixit guy right?

You're thinking of Alamgir Khan. He's expected to get a ticket too.

 

[saeedhk]

Speaking of rapists, in the last five years, there have been at least 25 rape cases in Faisalabad, Sialkot, Sheikhpura, Kasur and other parts of Punjab where the rapists were affiliated with the PML-N and no action was taken against these monsters.

In Kasur alone, MPA Malik Saeed, who was involved in the sexual abuse of 280 boys, continued to be a member of the Punjab assembly till the end of tenure last night.

 

[Syed2015]

I am of the opinion that it is better to give the opposition a freehit than play a fixed match. If PTI has woken up late on the Khosa issue, it is better than to not wake up at all and stay mum. It also shows that they give weight to their supporter's opinions.

So, PTI may get hit around the park for a bit, but there is still a long way to go before we can even think about a loss. I am sure, all this will take the backseat once the decision on the anticorruption case comes - PMLN be bowled out and our innings will begin early! IA!

When is the next deadline in the NAB case?

 

[Strike!]

When is the next deadline in the NAB case?

15 days from now.

 

[hussain.r97]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">NA 233-Malik Pahar Khan;<br>NA 234-Liaqat Ali Jatoi;<br>NA 235-Karim Ali Jatoi;<br>NA 242-Saif ur Rehman;<br>NA 244-Syed Ali Hyder Zaidi;<br>NA 247-Dr. Arif Alvi<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GE2018?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GE2018</a></p>— Tehreek-e-Insaf (@InsafPK) <a href="https://twitter.com/InsafPK/status/1002255199434665990?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So i guess Imran Ismail is replacing Samar Ali Khan who refused to contest this time?

NA-221, 228, 234, 235, 244, and 247 are ones to watch, PTI should back themselves to win most, if not all of these.

I think there are a few more tickets that need to be announced, expecting Fehmida Mirza to run on one of the Badin NA seats.

 

[Waseem]

Now i know why the Nooras on the forum have not brought this up today. But on a more serious note, how the hell did the PTI let this cretin in.

Its a good question but hardly anyone from current generation knew about his past as he committed the crime back in 1978 (40 years ago), even media raised this issue a couple of days after he joined and he was kicked out within few hours. I hope this will teach them a good lesson and in future, i know they are not FIA but at least some background check must be done.

I am proud to have contributed to raise awareness on this as i tagged every active PTI leader to ensure Imran Khan takes action and glad they responded quickly.

This is what i love about PTI, more often than not they raise the issue themselves and leadership does take notice.

 

[Bewal Express]

Its a good question but hardly anyone from current generation knew about his past as he committed the crime back in 1978 (40 years ago), even media raised this issue a couple of days after he joined and he was kicked out within few hours. I hope this will teach them a good lesson and in future, i know they are not FIA but at least some background check must be done.

I am proud to have contributed to raise awareness on this as i tagged every active PTI leader to ensure Imran Khan takes action and glad they responded quickly.

This is what i love about PTI, more often than not they raise the issue themselves and leadership does take notice.

Good work. There is no doubt electables are needed but on the other hand you have to be careful as to who joins.

 

[Waseem]

Speaking of rapists, in the last five years, there have been at least 25 rape cases in Faisalabad, Sialkot, Sheikhpura, Kasur and other parts of Punjab where the rapists were affiliated with the PML-N and no action was taken against these monsters.

In Kasur alone, MPA Malik Saeed, who was involved in the sexual abuse of 280 boys, continued to be a member of the Punjab assembly till the end of tenure last night.

While it was completely valid issue to raise and PTI supporters themselves created awareness on Bandial issue, it is quite shocking that no one cares one bit about rapists, criminals and murderers until any of them joins PTI. Most critics were not even satisfied after Imran Khan took immediate action within 4 hours and some even called it U turn

What is even more shocking is that no one ever took notice of such people ever before as he was active supporter of PMLN and helped Sumaira Malik win the elections in Khushab. As soon as he joined PTI though, we found out he is responsible for one of worst rape cases in late 70s.

Murderer of 6 people (paid blood money to get away) Abid Raza is still PMLN MNA and held jalsas with Maryam and Nawaz Sharif not long ago.

One of Pakistan's worst child rape cases in Kasur was exposed 2 years ago and multiple victims have blamed PMLN MPA Malik Saeed who wasn't even condemned by a single PMLN leader (forget about kicking him out or case against him).

PMLN MNA Mian Farooq's 3 sons were arrested on rape case and victim was soon forced to take the case back, Rana Sanaullah even attacked girl's character to defend the rapists but hardly anyone raised any voice.

I don't know how our so called liberals can show such extreme intellectual dishonesty on such issues?

 

[Waseem]

^^And many such opportunists (educated liberals) were using this incident to justify voting for PMLN/PPP as somehow PTI will be our worst disaster in history. Why? because proper screening wasn't done to stop a rapist joining the party ignoring the fact that immediate action was taken and maybe Imran Khan didn't know about this 40 year old incident?

 

[Bewal Express]

While it was completely valid issue to raise and PTI supporters themselves created awareness on Bandial issue, it is quite shocking that no one cares one bit about rapists, criminals and murderers until any of them joins PTI. Most critics were not even satisfied after Imran Khan took immediate action within 4 hours and some even called it U turn

What is even more shocking is that no one ever took notice of such people ever before as he was active supporter of PMLN and helped Sumaira Malik win the elections in Khushab. As soon as he joined PTI though, we found out he is responsible for one of worst rape cases in late 70s.

Murderer of 6 people (paid blood money to get away) Abid Raza is still PMLN MNA and held jalsas with Maryam and Nawaz Sharif not long ago.

One of Pakistan's worst child rape cases in Kasur was exposed 2 years ago and multiple victims have blamed PMLN MPA Malik Saeed who wasn't even condemned by a single PMLN leader (forget about kicking him out or case against him).

PMLN MNA Mian Farooq's 3 sons were arrested on rape case and victim was soon forced to take the case back, Rana Sanaullah even attacked girl's character to defend the rapists but hardly anyone raised any voice.

I don't know how our so called liberals can show such extreme intellectual dishonesty on such issues?

It is right that Nooras should hold us to higher standards. They know that they are a party of criminals supporting a criminal ex PM so they cant hold any other members to any basic standards.

 

[Syed2015]

15 days from now.

Thanks.

Do you expect any verdict to fall before this deadline or are we heading for another extension? Looking at the current atmosphere it doesnt seem as if a decision will fall in the next 15 days...

 

[hussain.r97]

NA-221, 228, 234, 235, 244, and 247 are ones to watch, PTI should back themselves to win most, if not all of these.

I think there are a few more tickets that need to be announced, expecting Fehmida Mirza to run on one of the Badin NA seats.

Correction, exclude NA-228. I confused the candidate there with someone else.

 

[Syed2015]

^^And many such opportunists (educated liberals) were using this incident to justify voting for PMLN/PPP as somehow PTI will be our worst disaster in history. Why? because proper screening wasn't done to stop a rapist joining the party ignoring the fact that immediate action was taken and maybe Imran Khan didn't know about this 40 year old incident?

You must be talking about Pakistans best representation at Harward

 

[Waseem]

You must be talking about Pakistans best representation at Harward

Yes read his tweet but he wasn't alone, Raza Rumi has been actively running their campaign and also Marvi Sirmed, Gul Bukhari etc

 

[Syed2015]

Yes read his tweet but he wasn't alone, Raza Rumi has been actively running their campaign and also Marvi Sirmed, Gul Bukhari etc

Add to that Murtaza Solangi, Abbas Nasir and all the Jang journalists barring Hamid Mir and Mazhar Abbas.
The Twitterati flagbearers of civilian supremacy

 

[hussain.r97]

SC overturns IHC verdict; Khawaja Asif can contest elections

The Supreme Court (SC) on Friday overturned an April decision of the Islamabad High Court (IHC) which had disqualified PML-N leader and former foreign minister Khawaja Asif.

A three-judge bench headed by Justice Umar Ata Bandial announced its decision on a May 7 appeal by Asif after earlier reserving its decision following the conclusion of arguments from both sides

Asif's senior counsel, Munir A. Malik, confirmed the development while speaking to Dawn. "Khawaja Asif can contest the upcoming election," he said.

Malik had argued that his client had revealed all details required in the nomination papers. "The sword of disqualification should not be looming over the parliamentarians' heads in this way," he added.

He continued, saying that if the income of his client was more than his declared resources that the Election Commission of Pakistan can look into the matter. "The investigation of more income that resources falls under the ambit of the ECP," he added.

On April 26, the IHC disqualified Khawaja Asif as a member of the parliament under Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution for not disclosing his employment in a UAE company as an occupation as well as the monthly salary he was receiving.

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) leader Usman Dar had moved the high court against Asif in 2017. In his petition, he had argued that Asif did not declare his job in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), salary in the 2013 nomination papers. Asif, however, had contended before the court that he declared AED50,000 as foreign income in papers.

Addressing the argument by Asif's legal team that "since copies of the passport attached with the nomination paper also contained a copy of the 'iqama', therefore there was no misrepresentation or concealment", the IHC judgement says: "Iqama is merely a residence visa issued by the immigration officials. In the instant case, the non-disclosure was that of the employment as an occupation and the salary per month received there under."

The judgement also makes a reference to the Panama Papers case, saying: "Supreme Court has not disqualified the former prime minister [Nawaz Sharif] merely for holding an ‘Iqama’ but rather his disqualification was due to non-disclosure of assets; holding an ‘Iqama’ cannot be made the basis for attracting Article 62(1)(f)."

Last month, Khawaja Asif had challenged the verdict in the apex court. The counsel for Asif had argued that the April 26 IHC decision was an exception taken against an elected parliamentarian.

In the petition, Asif argued that an inadvertent omission to disclose in his nomination papers, a bank account which represented less than 0.5 per cent of his total assets, particularly when the account lay dormant though it was disclosed in the annual statement of assets and liabilities filed with the Election Commission of Pakistan before the writ was instituted, could not be treated as willful and dishonest concealment.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1411333/sc-overturns-ihc-verdict-khawaja-asif-can-contest-elections

 

[Majid Khan]

Imran Khan as PM is a dream - let's face it the ground reality still appears to be the people will vote for the same old names ; it would be poetic justice and fully deserving of these voters to celebrate the great governance of PPP and PMLN in last 10 years of democracy by getting a PMLN/PPP/JUI-F joint coalition in power... With Shebaz Sharif as PM, Zardari as President, Bilawal as Foreign Minister, Maryam as Interior Minister, and Maulana Fazl as Finance Minister. And Nawaz Sharif can be officially given the title of Shah of Pakistan.

Salute to these great leaders..

 

[Mian]

How are they going to adjust Khosas now and Zartag Gul on same seat? According to JKT team Khosas are joining PTI today.

 

[Strike!]

Thanks.

Do you expect any verdict to fall before this deadline or are we heading for another extension? Looking at the current atmosphere it doesnt seem as if a decision will fall in the next 15 days...

No, maybe there will be an extension of one more month.

 

[Syed1]

Read headline some where that Khawaja Asif decision has been overturned by SC


Yeh bik gayi hai Supreme Court

 

[Waseem]

PTI continuing with their dramas on Punjab caretaker CM

Mahmud ur Rasheed announces Orya Maqbool Jan of all people as one option which was rejected by own party member Fawad Chauhdry replacing him with Ayaz Amir.

Can't wait till this is confirmed so they cna move on to much more important business.

 

[Mian]

Read headline some where that Khawaja Asif decision has been overturned by SC


Yeh bik gayi hai Supreme Court

Actually a tricky situation for Noora now how can he build his narrative on SC verdict against him

 

[Mian]

PTI continuing with their dramas on Punjab caretaker CM

Mahmud ur Rasheed announces Orya Maqbool Jan of all people as one option which was rejected by own party member Fawad Chauhdry replacing him with Ayaz Amir.

Can't wait till this is confirmed so they cna move on to much more important business.

Another drama is happening in NA53 where ticket is given to Kayani and local leadership isn't happy they want Ali Awan or Ilyas Meherban

 

[Waseem]

And i can't believe how Kh Asif can get cleared after IHC had disqualified him? He had clear case of miss declaration and now all of a sudden this is no longer an issue?

This is definitely good news for PMLN as their senior leader is back. Totally confusing decisions made by IHC and SC, did Kh Asif produce proof that IHC couldn't see or ignored?

 

[Waseem]

Another drama is happening in NA53 where ticket is given to Kayani and local leadership isn't happy they want Ali Awan or Ilyas Meherban

Well we will see more such dramas on tickets so mentally prepared to see so many new born nazriyatis but this kayani guy seems to be another useless option, what has he really done? Most people prefer Awan and have every right to be upset.

I would be very upset if Khosa who joined today gets ticket ahead of Zartaj Wazir.

 

[PakWarrior]

I think Pml might just pip the elections. They wont get the number of seats as before and PTI are heading for around 60 or 70(tops) seats. Certainly a big improvement from 2013 and this will be due to the electables joining and a new wave of college/university voters who will be voting PTI and rightfully so.

Unfortunately these elections are going to be decided by the massive segment of Village/Pind voters in Punjab that you don't see in any Habib Akram survey programme. Pml is what they know and they'll stick to them. I personally know of many villages in the Sahiwal and Faisalabad regions that have already given their hearts to Pmln Mna's as they've buildt carpet roads(pakki sark), given sui gas and improved sewerage in the villages. All this has happened in the last few months. Typical vote gaining tactic. Do very little in the first 4 and a half years and then do things for show in the last 6 months. That's enough for people in the village.

However there is just a little small current building in these villages who are finally supporting Imran's message and struggle and it is heartening to see that some people have genuinely had enough of Nawaz. But I don't know how strong this feeling is. Will it be strong enough to change village voting? I don't know.

Having said all that, Imran still has a chance and the court verdict due in the next few weeks might have a big impact.

 

[saeedhk]

And i can't believe how Kh Asif can get cleared after IHC had disqualified him? He had clear case of miss declaration and now all of a sudden this is no longer an issue?

This is definitely good news for PMLN as their senior leader is back. Totally confusing decisions made by IHC and SC, did Kh Asif produce proof that IHC couldn't see or ignored?

After this, Usman Dar will most likely not be able to win the NA seat.Bad! UD worked so hard.Poor guy!

 

[last_knight]

PTI had to avoid mistakes and PMLn would have helped by their own mistakes. This week, PTI has been doing a PMLn. Why no accountability for MuR.

And they are messing up ticket allocations for some constituencies. How they deal with this wave of panic will decide if they win 90+ NA seats or 60.

 

[last_knight]

After this, Usman Dar will most likely not be able to win the NA seat.Bad! UD worked so hard.Poor guy!

UD is lobbying against local administration of PTI skt, against the merit. If his lobbying succeed, PTI will lose 2 MPA seats and 1 MNA seat which it would win otherwise.

 

[Waseem]

I think Pml might just pip the elections. They wont get the number of seats as before and PTI are heading for around 60 or 70(tops) seats. Certainly a big improvement from 2013 and this will be due to the electables joining and a new wave of college/university voters who will be voting PTI and rightfully so.

Unfortunately these elections are going to be decided by the massive segment of Village/Pind voters in Punjab that you don't see in any Habib Akram survey programme. Pml is what they know and they'll stick to them. I personally know of many villages in the Sahiwal and Faisalabad regions that have already given their hearts to Pmln Mna's as they've buildt carpet roads(pakki sark), given sui gas and improved sewerage in the villages. All this has happened in the last few months. Typical vote gaining tactic. Do very little in the first 4 and a half years and then do things for show in the last 6 months. That's enough for people in the village.

However there is just a little small current building in these villages who are finally supporting Imran's message and struggle and it is heartening to see that some people have genuinely had enough of Nawaz. But I don't know how strong this feeling is. Will it be strong enough to change village voting? I don't know.

Having said all that, Imran still has a chance and the court verdict due in the next few weeks might have a big impact.

Welcome to the forum, great first post

Totally agree with voters mindset throughout Pakistan and Punjab in particular, these people have seen nothing but PMLN so they blindly support them.
Their thinking is "PMLN has given us whatever we have (as if its a gift) so education, hospital, economy, jobs etc are issues but at least we got something".
Now you have to counter this mentality along with "Khata hai tou lagata bhi hai", let's see how PTI counter this and yes court verdict would make some difference but only if PTI uses it to educate people in most aggressive campaign.

 

[saeedhk]

Two more N-league MPAs become insaafians.

 

[Mian]

Zulfiqar Khosa accepted but his son Dost Khosa us refused entry in PTI because of the allegations on him. Lifafas and noonies were ready with old news screenshots to start their campaign but masterstroke by PTI wasted all their efforts

 

[Mian]

Welcome to the forum, great first post

Totally agree with voters mindset throughout Pakistan and Punjab in particular, these people have seen nothing but PMLN so they blindly support them.
Their thinking is "PMLN has given us whatever we have (as if its a gift) so education, hospital, economy, jobs etc are issues but at least we got something".
Now you have to counter this mentality along with "Khata hai tou lagata bhi hai", let's see how PTI counter this and yes court verdict would make some difference but only if PTI uses it to educate people in most aggressive campaign.

Yesterday I saw someone saying kia hua ager Nawaz Shareef ne flat bana liay corruption kerke usne metro or motorway be to banayi he

 

[last_knight]

Read headline some where that Khawaja Asif decision has been overturned by SC


Yeh bik gayi hai Supreme Court

Welcome back Jahangir Khan Tareen. [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

 

[Mian]

Welcome back Jahangir Khan Tareen. [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION]

Lol yea and I guess Sheikh Rasheed is safe too but noora ain't coming back

 

[Mamoon]

PTI wanted the election to be delayed because it (along with the Army) fears that PML-N are going to win again.

As per the survey by The Economist, PML-N are likely to prevail again, and I support that claim.

PTI is just hot air, and people have seen through Imran’s farce and his military boot-licking.

However, the problem is that even if PML-N wins, they will have to chose a PM that will try to get into the good books of the Men in Boots. The likely candidates are Shehbaz and Ch. Nisar.

Or they could also go for a puppet/dummy PM, similar to Mamnoon Hussain’s appointment as President.

 

[Varun]

Props to all you Pakistanis for actually knowing all about EVERY single candidate in EVERY single seat, and tracking it like a game of chess as and when they deliver/fail or switch parties.

Impressive!

 

[PakWarrior]

Welcome to the forum, great first post

Totally agree with voters mindset throughout Pakistan and Punjab in particular, these people have seen nothing but PMLN so they blindly support them.
Their thinking is "PMLN has given us whatever we have (as if its a gift) so education, hospital, economy, jobs etc are issues but at least we got something".
Now you have to counter this mentality along with "Khata hai tou lagata bhi hai", let's see how PTI counter this and yes court verdict would make some difference but only if PTI uses it to educate people in most aggressive campaign.

Thank you Brother for the welcome. It's great to be here.

I agree with you. That's the situation and the mindset in the villages.

However major things are about to happen and are happening. CPEC despite its critics is a blessing from Allah and it will change the face of Pakistan inshallah. The Army has decided enough is enough and it will not allow it to fail. China is not dealing with the Pakistani government it is dealing with the Pakistani army.

The day's of open looting and commission making will be long gone in the next 5 or so years inshallah. A lot of things are working behind the scenes in Pakistan in awesome harmony.

Pakistan's economy is about to grow at a dazzling pace in the next few years. This is mainly due to CPEC and our improved security situation. Investor confidence is slowly returning. Companies such as Volkswagen and Hyundai setting up in Pakistan and Coca Cola to spend $200 million odd are just some of the signs of what is around the corner. Alibaba's Pakistan entry is also a significant development.

I wouldn't be too disheartened if Imran doesn't win the elections (and I want PTI to win) as even if Noon league comes into power again it will never be the same again for them. And they know that.

But I'm also gripped by election fever and even though some of us are living in the UK, USA etc, the buzz of Pakistan is inside all of us Alhamdulillah.

Not for nothing did Allah bless us with this treasure that our forefathers struggled and sacrificed their lives for.

And as the famous Sufi Barkat Ali predicted there will be a time when all the major countries in the world will look to Pakistan for guidance on affairs inshallah.

 

[Mian]

However, the problem is that even if PML-N wins, they will have to chose a PM that will try to get into the good books of the Men in Boots. The likely candidates are Shehbaz and Ch. Nisar.

Your information is outdated. Nisar is almost out of PMLN now and they are even considering giving ticket to someone to contest against Nisar. Even his buddy Shahbaz changed his attitude toward Nisar after becoming president of PMLN

 

[Mian]

Props to all you Pakistanis for actually knowing all about EVERY single candidate in EVERY single seat, and tracking it like a game of chess as and when they deliver/fail or switch parties.

Impressive!

Pakistanis are Sayasi by birth

 

[Mian]

Reham sahiba ne kia book ki proof reading ke liay Hussain Haqqani se raabta kya he?

 

[Mian]

Altaf Hussain announces to boycott GE 2018. That means very low turnout in Karachi

 

[Syed1]

Altaf Hussain announces to boycott GE 2018. That means very low turnout in Karachi

PTI win

 

[Mian]

PTI win

PSP and PPP worked really hard so it's not that easy

 

[Syed1]

PSP and PPP worked really hard so it's not that easy

Don't count out MQM-P