Politics - Pakistani 2018 General Election and post-election discussion

[Bewal Express]

Bilawal doing a presser now a little bashing of ECP and than he will say we are not going on road with PMLN and not going to ACP

If Billo could lock up the PPP mafia in Sindh that is headed by Dad and Auntie, he may have some future. I would actually like to see Billo to take the CM job in Sindh and use that Oxford education for those masses his party has looted

 

[DRsohail]

Great Bilawal deneid any coalition,good......lets come to the opposition seats and enjoy.

 

[Manager101]

Imran Khan is only a player in the circus run by Pakistan’s military

True or False?

Pakistan's military has mind-controlling devices.

 

[Bewal Express]

Not a good sign.

Divide and rule but AZ and sister cannot be given any deal.

 

[Loralai]

Imran Khan is only a player in the circus run by Pakistan’s military

True or False?

I believe there is some truth to this. Time will tell. Lets see if he comes through on foreign policy.

 

[Mian]

Great Bilawal deneid any coalition,good......lets come to the opposition seats and enjoy.

They can still as an opposition party support IK during PM voting in NA

 

[Loralai]

Is it just me or anyone else also feels there is some behind the scenes talks going on between PTI and PPP?

Surely impossible for Imran to work with Zardari after all that has been said?!

 

[Mian]

Breaking News: Ch Ghulam Hussain said 6/7 PPP MPAs and 15 Independent candidates have given green signal to PTI if Aleem Khan is their choice for CM they will support him. Interesting

 

[Mian]

Surely impossible for Imran to work with Zardari after all that has been said?!

They can still get support without openly sitting in an alliance.

 

[Strike!]

PTI loses one more seat as ecp corrects its clerical mistake on NA 190

https://www.ecp.gov.pk/ConstResult....D=10070&Election=GENERAL ELECTION 25 JUL 2018

That's why with the pending NA32 results we are going to end with 116 seats. I don't believe we have any chance on NA 259 and NA270

Just imagine: Had Karachi not 'gifted' us 14 seats how much worse our position would have been. MQM winning would have allowed them to dictate more demands from us.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

Breaking News: Ch Ghulam Hussain said 6/7 PPP MPAs and 15 Independent candidates have given green signal to PTI if Aleem Khan is their choice for CM they will support him. Interesting

Aleem Khan might be a short term cm.

 

[DRsohail]

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[Zeeraq]

If only Ch. Sarwar had contested on PP seat, he would've been an easy choice.

 

[Mian]

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There should be a hashtag on twitter to thank karachi!

 

[Mian]

If only Ch. Sarwar had contested on PP seat, he would've been an easy choice.

True

 

[Strike!]

Which PP seat did Aleem Khan win?

 

[Mian]

 

[waqar goraya]

NA32 is pti,,

That's why we will end up with 116 , including this seat

 

[Mian]

Which PP seat did Aleem Khan win?

PP-158 he was contesting under IK in NA131 that's how he campaigned for IK in NA131 while doing his own NA campaign in NA129 too. One the other MPA seat of NA131 Khawaja Salman the younger brother of Khawaja Saad won.

 

[Ocelot]

The primary impact of a PTI win would be the rise in the morale of Pakistani nation. During Nawaz/Zardari turn when something bad happens one could only feel helpless as they don't relate with them. However with PTI in charge, they'll take the ownership; when Imran Khan takes oaths they'll know it's because of them this man is standing there, he's the one who carries their desires, dreams, and ambitions. A fighting spirit will resurge.

 

[waqar goraya]

Karachi made all the difference as we lost all the battleground seats in Central Punjab.

 

[Badsha]

even if we lose like 5-6 more seats we are good to form a government in the NA

 

[waqar goraya]

And with 116 seats, we also need to keep a working relationship with MQM.

 

[Badsha]

The primary impact of a PTI win would be the rise in the morale of Pakistani nation. During Nawaz/Zardari turn when something bad happens one could only feel helpless as they don't relate with them. However with PTI in charge, they'll take the ownership; when Imran Khan takes oaths they'll know it's because of them this man is standing there, he's the one who carries their desires, dreams, and ambitions. A fighting spirit will resurge.

This is a renaissance of Pakistan

 

[mmkextreme_1]

There is no way we are going to give Ch Nisar the CMship he missed the train IK personally called and met him but his ego was too big and now he is late

Not saying CMship, but maybe for NA seat once Ghulam Sarvar vacates one of the seats.

 

[waqar goraya]

even if we lose like 5-6 more seats we are good to form a government in the NA

We are not losing them. These are final results from ECP.

Although we could lose couple of seats from Bannu and Lahore in by-election after IK leaves those seats. But will win Pindi seat when election is held there.

 

[InziRules]

Btw, this is why people of Karachi have demanded a province. This time, it's not MQM, but PTI, but we'll still ruled by PPP again.

 

[waqar goraya]

Btw, this is why people of Karachi have demanded a province. This time, it's not MQM, but PTI, but we'll still ruled by PPP again.

Well, the only option is to have a powerful Mayor with a lot of funds at his disposal.

 

[Mian]

Not saying CMship, but maybe for NA seat once Ghulam Sarvar vacates one of the seats.

That will be a political suicide for the Sarwar family.

 

[InziRules]

Well, the only option is to have a powerful Mayor with a lot of funds at his disposal.

That would be a very good workable option too. I seriously doubt PPP will ever let it happen.

PPP don't spend money in Sindh or Karachi, but people in interior say all the money is spent on Karachi

 

[Loralai]

Btw, this is why people of Karachi have demanded a province. This time, it's not MQM, but PTI, but we'll still ruled by PPP again.

People of Karachi deserve provincial status and have done so for some time now. IK needs to be bold and ensure this happens.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Oath tu inka Baap bhe uthaye ga ...

 

[waqar goraya]

On the brighter side, PPP + N +MMA = 43+64+13=120

If they decide they are only around 15 seats short, hence the need to have a good relationship with MQM.

 

[waqar goraya]

So one independent MPA from Punjab joins Q league. Pervez Ellahi trying to increase his tally for a bargaining power with PTI.

 

[waqar goraya]

Pervez Elahi is not content with his role of king maker. He himself wants to be the king, CM Punjab.

 

[Mian]

So PTI ended up with 31 out of 39 NA seats in KP.

6 out of 12 NA FATA seats.

14 out of 21 Karachi seats.

3 out of 3 Islamabad seat.

A total of 54 NA seats from 75 KP+Fata+Karachi+Islamabad seats

These seats saved us otherwise we were doomed in Punjab.

 

[Mian]

Yeh Iftikhar Ahmed ko kia hogaya he lol sayng PTI ne vote liay hen unke vote ko izat do ab shor mat machao.

 

[waqar goraya]

So PTI ended up with 31 out of 39 NA seats in KP.

6 out of 12 NA FATA seats.

14 out of 21 Karachi seats.

3 out of 3 Islamabad seat.

A total of 54 NA seats from 75 KP+Fata+Karachi+Islamabad seats

These seats saved us otherwise we were doomed in Punjab.

2 Balochistan and 1 Soomro seat that makes it 57.

 

[Mian]

2 Balochistan and 1 Soomro seat that makes it 57.

Yep i excluded that because we didn't perform that well in interior Sindh. So our Punjan number right now are less then 60?

 

[InziRules]

On the brighter side, PPP + N +MMA = 43+64+13=120

If they decide they are only around 15 seats short, hence the need to have a good relationship with MQM.

If MQM post operation even think of sitting with PML-N and after all the corruption last time, with PPP, they'll have zero seats next election.

I'm guessing JKT explained that to them in the phone call

 

[waqar goraya]

Yep i excluded that because we didn't perform that well in interior Sindh. So our Punjan number right now are less then 60?

61 , and even if we count 4 seats of AML, Q we did not win half Punjab seats. 141 were the total seats.

N league also won 62 seats from Punjab. So, in the end it was equally divided between N and PTI.

 

[Square Drive]

Guys what's the latest on Punjab?

 

[Couch Cricketer]

61 , and even if we count 4 seats of AML, Q we did not win half Punjab seats. 141 were the total seats.

N league also won 62 seats from Punjab. So, in the end it was equally divided between N and PTI.

Yeah that's why punjab government is so close. Pti can't let pmln make government in Punjab as this the golden chance to break the Sharif political power completely.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

According to Dr Shahid Masood Imran's ideal CM punjab is Dr Yasmin Rasheed, but he is afraid that she won't be able to handle the mafia there.

 

[InziRules]

Federal without Punjab is useless. You'll be giving 50% money to Sharif to enjoy.

If PTI makes Punjab Assembly, and they work well, they'll be able to break into Northern Sindh, since they'll know what PTI did in South Punjab

 

[Mian]

61 , and even if we count 4 seats of AML, Q we did not win half Punjab seats. 141 were the total seats.

N league also won 62 seats from Punjab. So, in the end it was equally divided between N and PTI.

Sargodha, Gujranwala and Sialkot really disappointed me

 

[Mian]

According to Dr Shahid Masood Imran's ideal CM punjab is Dr Yasmin Rasheed, but he is afraid that she won't be able to handle the mafia there.

That's my worry as well

 

[waqar goraya]

Final Punjab Assembly tally

N 129

PTI 123

Ind 28

Q league 7

PPP 6

BAP 1

PAR 1

295/297, elections on these 2 seats were postponed

 

[InziRules]

Final Punjab Assembly tally

N 129

PTI 123

Ind 28

Q league 7

PPP 6

BAP 1

PAR 1

295/297, elections on these 2 seats were postponed

123+28 is a majority then. No need for Q League blackmail

Pretty sure even PPP would rather PTI than Noonie Toons

 

[Mian]

Final Punjab Assembly tally

N 129

PTI 123

Ind 28

Q league 7

PPP 6

BAP 1

PAR 1

295/297, elections on these 2 seats were postponed

Next 2 days are going to be interesting

 

[Mian]

123+28 is a majority then. No need for Q League blackmail

Pretty sure even PPP would rather PTI than Noonie Toons

Half of Ind are in talk with PMLN and half with PTI while a couple are also talking to PMLQ

 

[Strike!]

123+28 is a majority then. No need for Q League blackmail

Pretty sure even PPP would rather PTI than Noonie Toons

Not all those independents are predisposed to PTI. For example one of the independents who won is Najam Sethis wife.

 

[waqar goraya]

PAR is Pakistan awami Raj.

Handling Punjab government with this little majority is going to be very difficult. More difficult than previous KPK government.

We need a forward block in N league

 

[Strike!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بیلٹ بکسوں کا چوری ہونا <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NA73?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NA73</a> سیالکوٹ میں میرے تحفظات کو مزید تقویت دے رہا ہے۔ فی الفور تفتیش کی جائے۔ <a href="https://t.co/ms2AjQYYy3">pic.twitter.com/ms2AjQYYy3</a></p>— Usman Dar (@UdarOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/UdarOfficial/status/1022916830497841153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[waqar goraya]

123+28 is a majority then. No need for Q League blackmail

Pretty sure even PPP would rather PTI than Noonie Toons

28 of them are not joining PTI.

N league have plenty of money to throw at them. The stakes are very high. Punjab's annual development budget is above 800 billions rupees i guess.

I'm sure one MPA will be offered 100s of millions.

 

[Hermoine Green]

What the bloody hell is this.

5 sealed ballot boxes found in Sialkot

 

[waqar goraya]

What the bloody hell is this.

5 sealed ballot boxes found in Sialkot

No one knows who did this. May be Dar himself to prove his loss controversial.

We can't be sure at this stage

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">بیلٹ بکسوں کا چوری ہونا <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NA73?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NA73</a> سیالکوٹ میں میرے تحفظات کو مزید تقویت دے رہا ہے۔ فی الفور تفتیش کی جائے۔ <a href="https://t.co/ms2AjQYYy3">pic.twitter.com/ms2AjQYYy3</a></p>— Usman Dar (@UdarOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/UdarOfficial/status/1022916830497841153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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What the bloody hell is this.

5 sealed ballot boxes found in Sialkot

Usman Dar is one of the most unlucky guy in our politics

 

[Couch Cricketer]

123+28 is a majority then. No need for Q League blackmail

Pretty sure even PPP would rather PTI than Noonie Toons

All those 28 wont join PTI though I expect Chief Minister election in the end will be tense with a forward group possible from pti or pmln voting for the other party. Till the actual election both will be claiming majority and we won't know who becomes the cm and forms government till the very end. Btw how many pmln and pti seats are of the same candidate and are expected to be vacated that would also make a difference on the seat needed for the first cm election as well surviving a no confidence vote by election.
So after all is said and done we will still be watching and following election threads for a few more months

 

[mmkextreme_1]

According to Dr Shahid Masood Imran's ideal CM punjab is Dr Yasmin Rasheed, but he is afraid that she won't be able to handle the mafia there.

That's my worry as well

This is my only worry as well, sadly in Punjab, this is a key point. For this, I think Aleem Khan is a better choice. He can handle the mafia of Punjab better.

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After getting things done in Faisalabad, JKT now has his eyes set on South Punjab... In Multan to take independent winners from South Punjab on board <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PunjabKaptaanKa?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PunjabKaptaanKa</a> iA <a href="https://t.co/yyi6D4FK9k">pic.twitter.com/yyi6D4FK9k</a></p>— TeamJKT (@JKTFanClubb) <a href="https://twitter.com/JKTFanClubb/status/1022924067421265920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mian]

This is my only worry as well, sadly in Punjab, this is a key point. For this, I think Aleem Khan is a better choice. He can handle the mafia of Punjab better.

We are in a very tricky situation media already started saying Aleem is facing NAB so IK shouldn't make him IK it will send the wrong message

 

[King-Misbah]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After getting things done in Faisalabad, JKT now has his eyes set on South Punjab... In Multan to take independent winners from South Punjab on board <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PunjabKaptaanKa?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PunjabKaptaanKa</a> iA <a href="https://t.co/yyi6D4FK9k">pic.twitter.com/yyi6D4FK9k</a></p>— TeamJKT (@JKTFanClubb) <a href="https://twitter.com/JKTFanClubb/status/1022924067421265920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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JKT is a legend. He was very confident that PTI will form govt in Punjab; made me chilled too

 

[Mian]

JKT is a legend. He was very confident that PTI will form govt in Punjab; made me chilled too

If we had focused a bit more on MPA panels to aaj yeh sab na kerna perta but in PTI everyone wanted to be MNA not MPA

 

[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First wicket post elections &#55357;&#56833; Independent winner from NA 13 Mansehra joins PTI. He defeated PMLN's Sardar Shah Jahan, whose family had not lost this seat since 97. Big gain, mA ✌ <a href="https://t.co/tLNOEuK02b">pic.twitter.com/tLNOEuK02b</a></p>— TeamJKT (@JKTFanClubb) <a href="https://twitter.com/JKTFanClubb/status/1022847302640312327?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Eagle_Eye]

[MENTION=24221]insaftak[/MENTION] was his nick and he was a legend!

You are remarkably like him

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">آل پارٹیز کانفرنس <a href="https://t.co/pnxALdHvt2">pic.twitter.com/pnxALdHvt2</a></p>— Aamir Liaquat Husain (@AamirLiaquat) <a href="https://twitter.com/AamirLiaquat/status/1022925719603736576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mian]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">آل پارٹیز کانفرنس <a href="https://t.co/pnxALdHvt2">pic.twitter.com/pnxALdHvt2</a></p>— Aamir Liaquat Husain (@AamirLiaquat) <a href="https://twitter.com/AamirLiaquat/status/1022925719603736576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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hahaha this remind me of Iblees ki majlis e shura

 

[Mian]

You are remarkably like him &#55357;&#56832;

haha acha

 

[last_knight]

28 of them are not joining PTI.

N league have plenty of money to throw at them. The stakes are very high. Punjab's annual development budget is above 800 billions rupees i guess.

I'm sure one MPA will be offered 100s of millions.

Correct me if I am wrong,Shehbaz has 1 MNA and 1 MPA seat. If he let go PP seat, we have a re-election.

If PTI and PMLn MNAs let go 5 PP seats, we have re-election on 10 seats and traditionally by-election is 75:25 in favour of King Party (PTI here). A net gain of 2.5 seats.

Now how many MNA elects have won PP ?

Also if Parvez Elahi want to play it this way, he will leave his 2 NA seats and PTI should destroy him in by-elections by giving ticket to current runner up. izzat raas ni i chaudhary ko. If PTI rookies can win from Murree, Lyari, Azizabad, Dir etc, Gujrat is no different, and if current runner up from PMLn is given PTI ticket against Chaudhary. Crush him.

 

[Mueez]

No one knows who did this. May be Dar himself to prove his loss controversial.

We can't be sure at this stage

No I don't think so.

My uncle, who is a close friend of Dar, said that Dar and his guys told him that Dar won it, when the votes were counted first time.
Khawaja couldn't believe it and he wanted a recount.

That happened and Dar won once again.

Then Khawaja and his team went to the polling agent and said to him that he should go home (typical dhamkiyaan shamkiyaan).

And then we all know what happened...

 

[mmkextreme_1]

We are in a very tricky situation media already started saying Aleem is facing NAB so IK shouldn't make him IK it will send the wrong message

This is why it was ideal if the decision was made before elections.

I guess IK can go with the saying "innocent until proven guilty." Don't really say any other viable candidate.

 

[Mian]

This is why it was ideal if the decision was made before elections.

I guess IK can go with the saying "innocent until proven guilty." Don't really say any other viable candidate.

Ch Sarwar, JKT and SMQ all 3 were our choices a few months ago and for different reasons all of them are not in the race anymore lol

 

[Mian]

Correct me if I am wrong,Shehbaz has 1 MNA and 1 MPA seat. If he let go PP seat, we have a re-election.

Shahbaz actually contested on 2 MPA seats both under his own NA132 and won them all so he will have to leave 1 NA and 1 PP or both PP seats. Hamza also won 1 PP and 1 NA so he will have to leave one too probably the NA. Dono baap bete ne Lahore ki sab se safe seats select ki thi jahan yeh mazboot thai or PTI ke pas koi khas candidate nae.

 

[shaaik]

It's a seesaw battle in Punjab and it could go anywhere. It seems Chaudary brothers are going to betray us who would hv thought this.. a lot of prepoll adjustment done might come to haunt us now..

 

[Bilal_103]

That's my worry as well

Is dr. Masood credible?

 

[Mian]

Is dr. Masood credible?

I heard this same news from another journalist as well today so there must be some truth in it.

 

[Bewal Express]

It's a seesaw battle in Punjab and it could go anywhere. It seems Chaudary brothers are going to betray us who would hv thought this.. a lot of prepoll adjustment done might come to haunt us now..

I dont think they will because they know that they will be finished forever if they do.

 

[last_knight]

Shahbaz actually contested on 2 MPA seats both under his own NA132 and won them all so he will have to leave 1 NA and 1 PP or both PP seats. Hamza also won 1 PP and 1 NA so he will have to leave one too probably the NA. Dono baap bete ne Lahore ki sab se safe seats select ki thi jahan yeh mazboot thai or PTI ke pas koi khas candidate nae.

10 or more by-elections at PP means any undesirable CM (Pervez Elahi) is in office only for two months. I'm sure he will foresee it within next 24 hours and he will retain his NA seat for Speaker NA.

 

[Bewal Express]

I heard this same news from another journalist as well today so there must be some truth in it.

Its great to see that IK is even thinking about her for such high office, but alas and sadly at this stage its impractical.