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Which will be the top party after the upcoming general elections?

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hussain.r97 said:
Yes, it would be a great assurance!
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I hope IK use his power here this will send a clear message IK can't be black mailed by electables and this will be the first time we will have a female CM that too of our biggest province?
 
My only worry is if she will be able to handle a massive province like Punjab at this age? she is 67 and a lady (we all know the issues females have to face in our society)
 
I hope Asad Umar comes up with an attractive investment scheme with good returns for overseas Pakistanis... I would be willing to invest a major chunk of my life's saving in it. Pakistan needs money and lots of it.
 
Mian said:
My only worry is if she will be able to handle a massive province like Punjab at this age? she is 67 and a lady (we all know the issues females have to face in our society)
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Might be a worry, but I'm sure she will have plenty of people around her supporting her. She's a tough lady, and I'm sure she can do it.
 
We are going to get many women reserve seats in Punjab, KP, Sindh and Federal i was wondering what Fozia Kasuri must be thinking now? opportunity missed?

Happy for Dua Bhutto she will be able to get a seat in Sindh assembly she worked really hard on ground with Haleem Adil in interior sindh.
 
Mian said:
My only worry is if she will be able to handle a massive province like Punjab at this age? she is 67 and a lady (we all know the issues females have to face in our society)
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if she is good enough then that is all that matters. look at qaim ali shah in Sindh! :sharif
 
Mian said:
My only worry is if she will be able to handle a massive province like Punjab at this age? she is 67 and a lady (we all know the issues females have to face in our society)
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I don't know but she made PMLN sweat twice now in arguably their strongest constituency. The lady certainly seems capable. However, yes age might be an issue.
 
Syed1 said:
I hope Asad Umar comes up with an attractive investment scheme with good returns for overseas Pakistanis... I would be willing to invest a major chunk of my life's saving in it. Pakistan needs money and lots of it.
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There are many pros of having Asad as FM but one negative is that he is completely against privatization! So elephants like PIA, Steel Mill, Railways etc are there to stay
 
hussain.r97 said:
Might be a worry, but I'm sure she will have plenty of people around her supporting her. She's a tough lady, and I'm sure she can do it.
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Loralai said:
if she is good enough then that is all that matters. look at qaim ali shah in Sindh! :sharif
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Gayle_Force said:
I don't know but she made PMLN sweat twice now in arguably their strongest constituency. The lady certainly seems capable. However, yes age might be an issue.
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Let's see if she can become front runner in this race of CMship!
 
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] and everyone, was a joy to read the posts. I still come here for updates!
 
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Major said:
why is it a mistake? If MQM joins now, that means PTI gets more reserve quota. After Mqm leaves will the reserve quota also leave?
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Ind joining give your reserve seats quota a boost not another party coming into a coalition.
 
Mian said:
We are going to get many women reserve seats in Punjab, KP, Sindh and Federal i was wondering what Fozia Kasuri must be thinking now? opportunity missed?

Happy for Dua Bhutto she will be able to get a seat in Sindh assembly she worked really hard on ground with Haleem Adil in interior sindh.
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I was also thinking the same about Fozia Kasuri. She would have gotten a guaranteed reserved seat had she stook around.
 
Pakpak said:
[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] and everyone, was a joy to read the posts. I still come here for updates!
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Thanks buddy loved your posts we are going to keep this thread active for a few more days or maybe will rename and turn this into a politics thread for next 5 years.
 
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Mian said:
Thanks buddy loved your posts we are going to keep this thread active for a few more days or maybe will rename and turn this into a politics thread for next 5 years.
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Gotta turn this into a politics thread! :zardari2
 
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PakWarrior said:
I was also thinking the same about Fozia Kasuri. She would have gotten a guaranteed reserved seat had she stook around.
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She and many other left the train right before it reached the station. Well done to Amin Aslam i will say he stood with Khan even after not getting ticket although he is not just a nazryati but also an electable and founder of billion tree tsunami
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incredible effect of the TLP vote, they were always meant to be a spoiler but the scale is breathtaking. Not sure if they would've come back home to the PML(N) however. <a href="https://t.co/lCSbm2nL3b">pic.twitter.com/lCSbm2nL3b</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1022834064246677505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I don't think this is that accurate, but TLP did help PTI win some seats.

We need a more scientific analysis with age breakdown and who TLP voters voted for previously to come to a better conclusion.
 
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Guys look how Allah's help has arrived:

1. We have won the elections CONVINCINGLY.

2. We have won seats from the top to the bottom of the country.

3. We are the number 1 party in Karachi now.

4. We have a significant presence in Balochistan.

5. We are about to get LOTS of reserved seats which means we can start grooming the next generation of PTI leaders from all backgrounds.

6. We are about to form Punjab provincial gvt.

7. Full control over KP which means we can do even more.

8. We are about to form a string opposition in Sindh provincial assembly.

9. We will be able to get many of our bills passed in assembly.

10. Imran now has the power to bring change across the country.

Alhamdulillah.

How does the above make you feel?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NA 5 Dir - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> was declared winner with margin of 8,888 votes. After verification through recounting, now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> looses by margin of over 1,000 votes to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MMA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MMA</a>. <br>Pehla Halqa Khula, Aur Dhandhla <a href="https://t.co/zxXruJKtxU">pic.twitter.com/zxXruJKtxU</a></p>— Majid Agha (@Majid_Agha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Majid_Agha/status/1022569475361660928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Guys Dawn is also sharing this tweet.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1423254/h...cies-where-pti-pml-n-ppp-are-alleging-rigging
 
waqar goraya said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NA 5 Dir - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> was declared winner with margin of 8,888 votes. After verification through recounting, now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> looses by margin of over 1,000 votes to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MMA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MMA</a>. <br>Pehla Halqa Khula, Aur Dhandhla <a href="https://t.co/zxXruJKtxU">pic.twitter.com/zxXruJKtxU</a></p>— Majid Agha (@Majid_Agha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Majid_Agha/status/1022569475361660928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Guys Dawn is also sharing this tweet.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1423254/h...cies-where-pti-pml-n-ppp-are-alleging-rigging
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Majid Agha is a known clown and jiyala but news is interesting lets see when the more details come out. PTI also calling rigging in NA73 and NA129
 
PakWarrior said:
Guys look how Allah's help has arrived:

1. We have won the elections CONVINCINGLY.

2. We have won seats from the top to the bottom of the country.

3. We are the number 1 party in Karachi now.

4. We have a significant presence in Balochistan.

5. We are about to get LOTS of reserved seats which means we can start grooming the next generation of PTI leaders from all backgrounds.

6. We are about to form Punjab provincial gvt.

7. Full control over KP which means we can do even more.

8. We are about to form a string opposition in Sindh provincial assembly.

9. We will be able to get many of our bills passed in assembly.

10. Imran now has the power to bring change across the country.

Alhamdulillah.

How does the above make you feel?
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Awesome feeling Allah shuker!
 
Mian said:
hahaha thanks bhai! barfi and ladoo to mene utha liay hen baaqi taqseem kerden :yk
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I don't see any gulab jamun.... hum iss mithai ki taukri se muqammal la'taluqi ka ilaan kartay hein
 
NAB nai shobaz ko Tulub kur liya hay..lol..punjab power company case...Adiyala will soon be renamed sharif national jail..
 
Ind candidates to start meeting IK tomorrow and they will announce the support right there after meeting him.
 
Syed1 said:
I don't see any gulab jamun.... hum iss mithai ki taukri se muqammal la'taluqi ka ilaan kartay hein
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Here you go :))

gulab.jamun.jpg
 
waqar goraya said:
Aleem Khan is way too controversial.

Tahir Sadiq is way too unreliable.

SMQ lost his seat.

We need a loyal , clean and a sensible individual for CM Punjab post.
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CH Fawad! He is young, has got good links and has preformed well since joining PTI.
 
Mian said:
wow Habib Akram saying Dr Yasmeen Rashid is being considered for CMship of Punjab by IK himself and he thinks she is the face of change.
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An excellent choice would be extremely happy if she gets it. I think she can do a lot of good stuff for Punjab.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
An excellent choice would be extremely happy if she gets it. I think she can do a lot of good stuff for Punjab.
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"tabdeeli agay hay yaaro"

this would shut up the psuedo liberals (who arent really liberals but are islamaphobic right wing secularists really)..

Dr yasmin would kick butt
 
Najam Sethi is going to be removed apparently according to news.

He wrote an article criticising PTI today in his newspaper. He can see the writing on the wall.
 
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Strike! said:
Najam Sethi is going to be removed apparently according to news.

He wrote an article criticising PTI today in his newspaper. He can see the writing on the wall.
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Nothing decided yet. He may get away with it. I hope PTI reforms the PCB but they may leave it for later
 
Strike! said:
Najam Sethi is going to be removed apparently according to news.

He wrote an article criticising PTI today in his newspaper. He can see the writing on the wall.
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http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/welcome-to-new-pakistan/
Here is the article for those interested.

"The constitution may also be targeted for amendment. The 18th Amendment, for starters, has become irksome because it shaves the federal pool — which is required to pay for increasing defense expenditures and pensions— by devolving financial resources to the provinces. A need may also be felt to reduce the size and strength of Punjab in the scheme of things, especially since the development of a critical fissure in the historical pro-Miltablishment character of the province. Plans remain on the anvil to carve it up into three or more “units” that are politically more “manageable”."

Centralizing power and breaking up Punjab is part of the Bajwa doctrine but constitutional amendments would require support of either PMLN or PPP. Don't see them budging.
 
I'm not too familiar with the reserve seat system, how does it work? We don't have that here in the US. Who picks reserved seat candidates, the party the seats have been allocated too? [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] [MENTION=133865]hussain.r97[/MENTION]
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
I'm not too familiar with the reserve seat system, how does it work? We don't have that here in the US. Who picks reserved seat candidates, the party the seats have been allocated too? [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] [MENTION=133865]hussain.r97[/MENTION]
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For every 4 seats you win you get 1 reserve seat .... 4:1...
 
DrSchultz said:
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/welcome-to-new-pakistan/
Here is the article for those interested.

"The constitution may also be targeted for amendment. The 18th Amendment, for starters, has become irksome because it shaves the federal pool — which is required to pay for increasing defense expenditures and pensions— by devolving financial resources to the provinces. A need may also be felt to reduce the size and strength of Punjab in the scheme of things, especially since the development of a critical fissure in the historical pro-Miltablishment character of the province. Plans remain on the anvil to carve it up into three or more “units” that are politically more “manageable”."

Centralizing power and breaking up Punjab is part of the Bajwa doctrine but constitutional amendments would require support of either PMLN or PPP. Don't see them budging.
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This is what i dont understand. Why would IK who is a proponent of devolution suddenly want to centralise? if he does he is finished as a politician. However if you proceed from the assumption that he is merely a pawn of the army then I guess you can believe that.
 
Add one more seat to the national assembly tally. Independent MNA from Mansehra joins the PTI.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
I'm not too familiar with the reserve seat system, how does it work? We don't have that here in the US. Who picks reserved seat candidates, the party the seats have been allocated too? [MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] [MENTION=133865]hussain.r97[/MENTION]
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Read through the thread it has been explained a few times or just google
Reserved seats Pakistan national assembly

There are a total of 342 seats in the National Assembly. Of these, 272 are filled by direct elections. In addition, the Pakistani Constitution reserves 10 seats for religious minorities and 60 seats for women, to be filled by proportional representation among parties with more than 5% of the vote.
 
Couch Cricketer said:
Read through the thread it has been explained a few times or just google
Reserved seats Pakistan national assembly

There are a total of 342 seats in the National Assembly. Of these, 272 are filled by direct elections. In addition, the Pakistani Constitution reserves 10 seats for religious minorities and 60 seats for women, to be filled by proportional representation among parties with more than 5% of the vote.
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I did read that from earlier on in the thread, I guess I should rephrase my question, why is this system in place? These officials are not elected into government like the others, do they have less power? Who picks the reserved seat candidates? The party or are they pre-picked? I see PTI has Dr. Yasim Rashid for first pick (for PPA), thus was confused.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
I did read that from earlier on in the thread, I guess I should rephrase my question, why is this system in place? These officials are not elected into government like the others, do they have less power? Who picks the reserved seat candidates? The party or are they pre-picked? I see PTI has Dr. Yasim Rashid for first pick (for PPA), thus was confused.
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Reserved seats are for women and minorities.
 
First time i listened to the dude KASHIF on ARY NEWS and i had to close my streaming after 10 minutes.

He is sooooo ill mannered, don't know how to speak with some one. Can't even give respect to his fellow hosts.

Shameless guy.
 
mmkextreme_1 said:
I did read that from earlier on in the thread, I guess I should rephrase my question, why is this system in place? These officials are not elected into government like the others, do they have less power? Who picks the reserved seat candidates? The party or are they pre-picked? I see PTI has Dr. Yasim Rashid for first pick (for PPA), thus was confused.
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The reserved seats are for women and religious minorities as in a society like ours it will hard for them to get propotional representatives in government. This ensures that we have women and religious minorities participating in the goverment.
 
Man, I still have to pinch myself sometimes to believe that IK has actually WON and will form government. Then I get this warm feeling inside everytime I realize it has happened! :)
 
Hermoine Green said:
First time i listened to the dude KASHIF on ARY NEWS and i had to close my streaming after 10 minutes.

He is sooooo ill mannered, don't know how to speak with some one. Can't even give respect to his fellow hosts.

Shameless guy.
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Completely agree with you.

I have been saying this about Kashif Abbassi for years. The most irritating journalist in Pakistan. He thinks he is better than he actually is.

And just look at Waseem Badami who always sucks up to him.
 
Pmln supporters still coming up with all sorts of weird calculations to get majority. :)))
 
Hermoine Green said:
First time i listened to the dude KASHIF on ARY NEWS and i had to close my streaming after 10 minutes.

He is sooooo ill mannered, don't know how to speak with some one. Can't even give respect to his fellow hosts.

Shameless guy.
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Speaking of ARY, who is this lady from PML-N who has been yelling on ARY for the past hour :29:
 
I can't believe 100% of the vote count is still not in.

With the addition of the minority and women seats, we need to get 172 seats somehow and this is where MQM-P's role becomes crucial.
 
waqar goraya said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NA 5 Dir - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> was declared winner with margin of 8,888 votes. After verification through recounting, now <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> looses by margin of over 1,000 votes to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MMA?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MMA</a>. <br>Pehla Halqa Khula, Aur Dhandhla <a href="https://t.co/zxXruJKtxU">pic.twitter.com/zxXruJKtxU</a></p>— Majid Agha (@Majid_Agha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Majid_Agha/status/1022569475361660928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Guys Dawn is also sharing this tweet.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1423254/h...cies-where-pti-pml-n-ppp-are-alleging-rigging
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Dawn is lying.No such thing.
 
Strike! said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Incredible effect of the TLP vote, they were always meant to be a spoiler but the scale is breathtaking. Not sure if they would've come back home to the PML(N) however. <a href="https://t.co/lCSbm2nL3b">pic.twitter.com/lCSbm2nL3b</a></p>— Roshan Pakistan Opinion Polling (@RoshanOpinion) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoshanOpinion/status/1022834064246677505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I don't think this is that accurate, but TLP did help PTI win some seats.

We need a more scientific analysis with age breakdown and who TLP voters voted for previously to come to a better conclusion.
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That’s a lot of votes by TLP
 
Mian said:
Majid Agha is a known clown and jiyala but news is interesting lets see when the more details come out. PTI also calling rigging in NA73 and NA129
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Replying to [MENTION=2612]Majid[/MENTION]_Agha
Here is official ECP final result of NA-5 ( PTI is winner here )
 
DRsohail said:
have asked local as it was our prvious constiyuency they say ,recounting has done and was the same..pti rocks...
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Thanks.

Looks like this 'news' is just coming from Twitter accounts, particularly this Majid Agha. Couldn't find any articles either.
 
From what chaudary was saying looks like PTI can't get majority in Punjab or be safe in national assembly without them and they plan to use it to get Punjab goverment:livid::42::42:
I am not even from Punjab
 
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Couch Cricketer said:
From what chaudary was saying looks like PTI can't get majority in Punjab or be safe in national assembly without them and they plan to use it to get Punjab goverment:livid::42::42:
I am not even from Punjab
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WTH, selfish a** people! IK should not have involved himself with idiots like these.
 
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