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IA get Saudi and Iran around a table to bring peace and stability.

It would be absolutely amazing if Pakistan were the ones to resolve this conflict ....

Also, I really hope Pakistan become impartial, and actually recognize Armenia as a country. We are the only country in the world who do not recognize them, and the only reason we don't is to lick Turkey and Azerbaijan's boots. I understand if Pakistan decide against recognizing their genocide (though it would be the right thing to recognize it), but at least recognize them as a country ...
 
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It will be known within the next 24 hours whether PTI or PMLN will form Punjab govt.

Talks going on at rapid pace.
 
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/...s-pakistan-on-successful-holding-of-elections

Really hoping we establish good relations with Iran under Imran Khan.

After Iqbal, as he said in his book, Ali Shariati, the ideological father of the Islamic revolution of Iran (and himself a great scholar of Iqbal as well), was the other main intellectual influence on Khan, when he began to (re)discover Islam.

Apart from the "neighbor" argument with Iran I wonder if that plays into it, at least the "socialist" arguments from IK echo a lot of Shariati's own ideas.

Will be interesting to see how he maintains the balance between Iran/Saudi Arabia-US.
 
Things getting interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meeting Designate Prime Minister of Pakistan and Chairman PTI <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> to discuss our role in our government today. <a href="https://t.co/xiT7t5WRYZ">pic.twitter.com/xiT7t5WRYZ</a></p>— Dr. Yasmin Rashid (@Dr_YasminRashid) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dr_YasminRashid/status/1023184862415675393?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Imran Khan meeting with Yasmin Rashid and Zainab Abbas's mom!
 
Does JKT not get tired?

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:yk
 
JKT should focus on roping in Punjab MPA's, SMQ or anyone else should deal with GDA,MQM and BAP now.
 
I think SMQ is upset :sanga

I'll tell you why he is upset and THIS IS 100% TRUE STORY THAT I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU:

Yesterday SMQ said in party conference in front of Imran Khan that why don't they announce a sitting temporary CM of Punjab. Then during MPA bye elections SMQ assured everyone that he was confident he could win and then he can be announced as CM Punjab.

He told everyone that nobody has links in Punjab like he does so he would be the most suitable CM Punjab.

He was laughed off and his idea shot down as soon as he left the room and he knows about the reaction.

This is why he is upset
 
I'll tell you why he is upset and THIS IS 100% TRUE STORY THAT I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU:

Yesterday SMQ said in party conference in front of Imran Khan that why don't they announce a sitting temporary CM of Punjab. Then during MPA bye elections SMQ assured everyone that he was confident he could win and then he can be announced as CM Punjab.

He told everyone that nobody has links in Punjab like he does so he would be the most suitable CM Punjab.

He was laughed off and his idea shot down as soon as he left the room and he knows about the reaction.

This is why he is upset

Understandable why he may be upset, but he needs to think bigger than himself. If the party collectively makes a decision, then he should not go against it. Putting up a dummy CM now, and then having him run for a PP seat, and get elected as CM has it's own risks, and can open a whole new can of worms.
 
I'll tell you why he is upset and THIS IS 100% TRUE STORY THAT I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU:

Yesterday SMQ said in party conference in front of Imran Khan that why don't they announce a sitting temporary CM of Punjab. Then during MPA bye elections SMQ assured everyone that he was confident he could win and then he can be announced as CM Punjab.

He told everyone that nobody has links in Punjab like he does so he would be the most suitable CM Punjab.

He was laughed off and his idea shot down as soon as he left the room and he knows about the reaction.

This is why he is upset

This suggestion of SMQ is not feasible at all because PTI doesn't have heavy mandate to maneuver things like that in Punjab Assembly.
 
Just got confirmed that:

-Asad Umar will be finance minister (no surprises).
-Malik Amin Aslam will be Environmental Advisor (probably minister when he is elected after bye elections)/
-Shah Mehmood Qureshi was offered a federal ministry, but declined because he wants Punjab CMship.
-Sheikh Rasheed and Chaudry Sarwar are being considered for Federal Interior Minister.
 
Just got confirmed that:

-Asad Umar will be finance minister (no surprises).
-Malik Amin Aslam will be Environmental Advisor (probably minister when he is elected after bye elections)/
-Shah Mehmood Qureshi was offered a federal ministry, but declined because he wants Punjab CMship.
-Sheikh Rasheed and Chaudry Sarwar are being considered for Federal Interior Minister.

What is expected of an interior minister in Pak?

Not sure of Sheeda talli is best suited for it. He has experience as minister of railway and I thought he did pretty well.

Chaudhry Sarwar should be considered as minister of foreign affairs if SMQ does not want it. Shireen Mazari would be good as well.
 
MUZAFFARGARH – At least two independent Members of National Assembly (MNA) and seven Members of Provincial Assembly (MPA) joined Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) on Saturday.

The MNAs gained success from Muzaffargarh and will announce their inclusion after meeting PTI chairman Imran Khan today.

Shabeer Qureshi defeated Ghulam Mustafa Khar in NA-181 while Basit Sultan Bukhari beat Moazzam Jataoi in NA-185.

Independent MPA Khurram Sohail Leghari from PP-275, Alamdar Qureshi from PP-277 and Basit Sultan Bukhari from PP-272 and NA-185 will also join PTI.

As per the update from ECP, it has received results of 230 seats of National assembly and 500 seats of provincial assemblies which is 86.8 percent of the total count.

PTI is currently leading with 116 NA seats, Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) second with 64 seats and Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) third with 43 seats.

Besides these parties, Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) attained 12 seats, Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) 4, Balochistan National Party (BAP) 3, Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P) 6 and Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) 2.

https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/449965-Two-independent-MNAs-three-MPAs-join-PTI
 
lol :ghalib

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NayaPakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NayaPakistan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImranKhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImranKhan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MainNahiHaroonga?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MainNahiHaroonga</a> <a href="https://t.co/n6Z0X5eEn9">pic.twitter.com/n6Z0X5eEn9</a></p>— Aamir Liaquat Husain (@AamirLiaquat) <a href="https://twitter.com/AamirLiaquat/status/1023199012340596736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">پنجاب کی وزارت اعلیٰ کیلئے ڈاکٹریاسمین راشد کا نام بھی سامنے آگیا۔۔ <br>فواد چوہدری اور علیم خان کے ناموں پر عمران خان کو تحفظات<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PTI?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PTI</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMLN?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMLN</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PPP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PPP</a> <a href="https://t.co/FEG0YsQUvl">https://t.co/FEG0YsQUvl</a></p>— Siasat.pk (@siasatpk) <a href="https://twitter.com/siasatpk/status/1023199333074837504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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lol :ghalib

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NayaPakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NayaPakistan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImranKhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImranKhan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MainNahiHaroonga?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MainNahiHaroonga</a> <a href="https://t.co/n6Z0X5eEn9">pic.twitter.com/n6Z0X5eEn9</a></p>— Aamir Liaquat Husain (@AamirLiaquat) <a href="https://twitter.com/AamirLiaquat/status/1023199012340596736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Who makes these? :)))
 
What is expected of an interior minister in Pak?

Not sure of Sheeda talli is best suited for it. He has experience as minister of railway and I thought he did pretty well.

Chaudhry Sarwar should be considered as minister of foreign affairs if SMQ does not want it. Shireen Mazari would be good as well.

If he agrees and honestly get rid of ghosts of past, Khawaja Asif may have a role in PTI govt in an year or two.
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Provided he still wins after recount.
 
If he agrees and honestly get rid of ghosts of past, Khawaja Asif may have a role in PTI govt in an year or two.

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] you can bookmark this post.

Provided he still wins after recount.

lol no. He offers nothing to PTI.
 
lol :ghalib

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NayaPakistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NayaPakistan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImranKhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImranKhan</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MainNahiHaroonga?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MainNahiHaroonga</a> <a href="https://t.co/n6Z0X5eEn9">pic.twitter.com/n6Z0X5eEn9</a></p>— Aamir Liaquat Husain (@AamirLiaquat) <a href="https://twitter.com/AamirLiaquat/status/1023199012340596736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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That's very catchy.
 
If he agrees and honestly get rid of ghosts of past, Khawaja Asif may have a role in PTI govt in an year or two.

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] you can bookmark this post.

Provided he still wins after recount.

Are you sure? is he already having any talks with PTI?
 
We should get cheap oil and gas from Iran even if it makes uncle sam upset

It's not that simple.There are other financial institutions needed for logistics.

Currently IOC gets oil from Iran and it get insured by another Indian company.Now the insurance company cannot insure as it will get sanctioned by US.So now Iran is insuring the transportation for India.I don't know how longer they can do it.Even China will not go against these sanctions as it will hit them in different places.
 
Him as Governor Sindh can really hurt PPP

Would that be a trailer for the future PTI politics in Sindh ? Where you can't win without the Bhutto tag, so perhaps they'll bank on his "the true Bhutto" persona against the Zardari's ? I mean how can you fight PPP's wadheras and all there, even the much hyped GDA miserably failed.
 
Hope Imran Khan can revive Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline. Iranians have already built their part of the pipeline.

The pipeline will provide significantly cheaper gas than what we are getting from Qatar. The pipeline has been stalled due to Saudi and U.S. pressure.
 
MURREE: Former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi’s petition for a recount in his NA-57 Murree constituency was rejected on Saturday by returning officer Haider Ali.

Abbasi lost his home constituency and allegations of rigging were hurled by workers of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) after they were stopped from interfering in the counting process.

Abbasi had filed a petition asking for a recount in the constituency. Lawyers from both the PTI and PML-N argued their case in front of a local judge. The RO announced the verdict of a petition after hearing the arguments of all parties in the case.

The process of recounting ballots in selected constituencies across the country commenced on Saturday after political parties cried foul after official results were released.

Vote recounting requests for 3 NA seats accepted

Punjab

In Lahore’s NA-131, the process of recounting was initiated after the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) accepted an application filed by former railway minister Khawaja Saad Rafique. The PML-N stalwart lost to PTI Chairperson Imran Khan. Recounting in the provincial constituency of PP-162 also commenced.

The ECP also ordered recounting of ballots in Faisalabad’s NA-106 and NA-108 constituencies. The process in NA-106 is expected to start later today after PTI candidate Dr Nisar Jutt called for a recount, PML-N’s Rana Sanaullah Khan won the seat on July 25. PML-N’s Abid Sher Ali lost to PTI’s Farrukh Habib in NA-108.

ECP officials also started recounting in NA-126. Security was increased to ensure the protection of officials. PTI’s Hammad Azhar was declared successful in NA-126, but PML-N’s Mehr Ishtiaq moved an application and the recounting was ordered in the said constituency.

In Jhelum, the application of another PMLN candidate who lost by a narrow margin was rejected by the RO PP-25 constituency. Mehar Fayaz lost the provincial seat to PTI’s candidate by 3,296 votes while 6,939 votes were rejected. He applied for a recount but the RO denied.

The PML-N candidate alleged his polling agents were forced out and voter lists were taken away from them. “All this was done by Army personnel. When I tried to speak with them they said I should speak to their senior,” claimed the losing candidate.

For PTI, walk on tightrope ahead, suggests Moody’s

Independent candidate Abdul Dasti was declared the winner from PP-270 Muzaffargarh-III after a vote recount was conducted in the constituency. He won by a margin of 17 votes. The previously declared winner from the constituency, Muhammad Ajmal Khan from Awami Raaj Party (ARP), challenged the decision and requested the ECP to recount all ballot boxes.

Sindh

In Sindh, the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) filed an appeal at a local court in Malir for a recount of NA-237 where Abdul Hakim Baloch lost the seat to PTI’s Jamil Ahmed Khan. In a surprising move, the court rejected PPP’s plea for a recount and maintained the earlier result.

A ballot recount in NA-230 and PS-73 in Badin district was also initiated on the request of former National Assembly Speaker Dr Fehmida Mirza.

Mirza won NA-230 with a total of 96,875 votes; and lost PS -73 with a marginal difference. In her application, she claimed that she was leading with thousands of votes on NA-230 but the election result showed a difference of a few hundred votes.

For PS-73, she claimed that the polling staff rigged the results to declare PPP candidate Taj Mohammad as a winner from the seat. Mohammad scored 37,645 votes whereas Mirza trailed with 37,364 votes.

Mirza is the first woman elected for the fifth time in the National Assembly.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1768158/1-recounting-votes-commences-across-selected-constituencies/
 
If he agrees and honestly get rid of ghosts of past, Khawaja Asif may have a role in PTI govt in an year or two.

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] you can bookmark this post.

Provided he still wins after recount.

Hopefully he never joins PTI.I know this can happen in politics but I never want to see this person in PTI.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf's victory in the GE2018 has had a positive impact on the stock market & boasted investors' confidence. Value of Dollar has declined by 7 PKR in the open market. The economic fronts are bidding welcome to PM-designate Imran Khan!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistansPrideImranKhan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistansPrideImranKhan</a> <a href="https://t.co/MXPFyMpBt0">pic.twitter.com/MXPFyMpBt0</a></p>— PTI (@PTIofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/PTIofficial/status/1023157953770213376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Things already improving. Result was expected, so rupee improving. Investor confidence also improving. Normally it is the other way around if a pro-business party is leaving. Goes to show that PML-N were all talk, no action. And falsely claimed to be pro-business and all ....


I don't think dollar has decreased so much. It was 130 and now it is 129.
 
Would that be a trailer for the future PTI politics in Sindh ? Where you can't win without the Bhutto tag, so perhaps they'll bank on his "the true Bhutto" persona against the Zardari's ? I mean how can you fight PPP's wadheras and all there, even the much hyped GDA miserably failed.

Not just the bhutto tag he will have the full support of Federal Govt to do the jor tor in Sindh and will hit PPP where it hurt them most remember how Ishrat helped MQM. Mumtaz merged his party into PTI so he is not GDA but a part of PTI. PTI fought better then GDA in interior Sindh although only won 1 Sumro seat but if you look at some of the seats where we are runner up you will notice we are not far away from making inroads in Interior Sindh and this time we are also coming up with our own opposition leader in Sindh.
 
Chacha Haroon Rasheed again back with Tahir Sadiq name as CM and now he is saying Ch Pervez Ellahi is willing to support PTI if his brother in law Tahir Sadiq of PTI is made CM.

I thought Tahir Sadiq was out of the CM race :13:
 
It's not that simple.There are other financial institutions needed for logistics.

Currently IOC gets oil from Iran and it get insured by another Indian company.Now the insurance company cannot insure as it will get sanctioned by US.So now Iran is insuring the transportation for India.I don't know how longer they can do it.Even China will not go against these sanctions as it will hit them in different places.

They should find a way because i remember a few years ago during PPP govt we had an agreement with Iran and they even worked on the pipe line and if i am not wrong it already reached Pak-Iran border from their side. These sanctions were there at that time back in 2011/12

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If he agrees and honestly get rid of ghosts of past, Khawaja Asif may have a role in PTI govt in an year or two.

[MENTION=142451]Mian[/MENTION] you can bookmark this post.

Provided he still wins after recount.

He just ridiculed IK yesterday.

So he would join a party that sends lanat to the parliament ?
 
Just got confirmed that:


-Sheikh Rasheed and Chaudry Sarwar are being considered for Federal Interior Minister.

Wonder what this would accomplish. I believe there is not a single police officer in this country who would listen to his orders.
 
I wonder what's going to be the future of PITB head Umar Saif? He is known for having very close relations with Sharif family and links with PMLN social media team but is there any other competent person available to replace him?
 
I am now really worried that this rangbaaz clown will become the interior minister.

Another rangbaaz Khawaja Asif was our Defense and Foreign minister not very long ago with no knowledge of foreign affairs. What exactly he was doing as Defense minister except bashing Army?
 
Calm down guys these are all rumors so far nothing solid. If Pervez Khattak go out of CM race he can have a shot at interior ministry as well.
 
Another rangbaaz Khawaja Asif was our Defense and Foreign minister not very long ago with no knowledge of foreign affairs. What exactly he was doing as Defense minister except bashing Army?

Dont forget the crook that took Foreign Secretary role so that he could get out of the country at every opportunity for holidays and to visit family in London. I cant recall his name but i think he is in Adiala serving 10 years.
 
Calm down guys these are all rumors so far nothing solid. If Pervez Khattak go out of CM race he can have a shot at interior ministry as well.

Interior Ministry is one of the most important portfolios, ideally someone with civil service experience should be the minister - Shafqat Mahmood, or someone who would command the respect of the officer cadre of the intelligence agencies.
 
Shafqat Mehmood or Ch. Sarwar should be Interior Minister.

PTI shouldn't make Sheikh Rasheed or Pervez Khattak Interior Minister.
 
Interior Ministry is one of the most important portfolios, ideally someone with civil service experience should be the minister - Shafqat Mahmood, or someone who would command the respect of the officer cadre of the intelligence agencies.

Shafqat is a good choice but i think his name is being consider as Speaker NA? PTI is wasting him we already have Sumro with Senate Chairmanship experience so he should be Speaker or Alvi can be given this job and Shafqat should be given a ministry
 
The other area which is of great importance is SOE such as PIA and PSM etc, the combined losses of these 2 alone run into billions, which could be better used in education, health, agriculture etc.
 
The other area which is of great importance is SOE such as PIA and PSM etc, the combined losses of these 2 alone run into billions, which could be better used in education, health, agriculture etc.

I wonder what's Asad Umar plan for this because he is anti privatization.
 
Who is the person that could take control of these SOE, they must have business acumen and political skills to tread this minefield.
 
I wonder what's Asad Umar plan for this because he is anti privatization.

I would close PSM because quite simply they cant be turned around and give generous redundancy to the workers, find the people that they bribed to get their jobs and try to get as much as possible back. The other option is to find a foreign partner and let them run it.
 
Really want to see Naeem Bukhari at some key position maybe Governor Punjab?
 
I would close PSM because quite simply they cant be turned around and give generous redundancy to the workers, find the people that they bribed to get their jobs and try to get as much as possible back. The other option is to find a foreign partner and let them run it.

It's too complicated thousands of people work for PSM that means thousands of family.
 
What? Haroon Rasheed was in PTI?

Haroon never joined PTI officially but he is one of those guys who encouraged Imran to join Politics after cricket he helped PTI in the beginning and remained with Khan till 2013 when their political differences started but they are still good friends. Hassan Nisar was actually part of PTI and the first Info Sec of PTI but he left politics.
 
Haroon never joined PTI officially but he is one of those guys who encouraged Imran to join Politics after cricket he helped PTI in the beginning and remained with Khan till 2013 when their political differences started but they are still good friends. Hassan Nisar was actually part of PTI and the first Info Sec of PTI but he left politics.

What were the political differences?
 
What were the political differences?

Some tickets issues Haroon wasn't on board he wanted to give some tickets. Specially the one in Gujjar Khan to Ch Azeem in 2013 because he is very close to Haroom and his murshid Prof Rafiq. Now in 2018 Ch Azeem was given ticket by PTI but he lost against Raja Pervez Ashraf.
 
Some tickets issues Haroon wasn't on board he wanted to give some tickets. Specially the one in Gujjar Khan to Ch Azeem in 2013 because he is very close to Haroom and his murshid Prof Rafiq. Now in 2018 Ch Azeem was given ticket by PTI but he lost against Raja Pervez Ashraf.

It's a mystery to me how Raja rental keeps winning despite his reputation.

Haroon Rasheed also seemed against SMQ's inclusion. He still says that he is a very insecure person and a troublemaker in a team.
 
Shangla might see re-polls due to low turnout of women voters

Shangla’s NA-10 constituency is likely to be required to hold re-polling under the provisions of the Election Act, 2017 which require the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) to declare an election null and void if women’s turnout in a constituency is less than 10 per cent of its total polled votes.

The total number of votes polled in Shangla NA-10, where the PML-N’s Ebadullah Khan emerged victorious, stands at 128,302, of which women's votes account for 12,663 — 9.8pc — of the total votes polled.

The Free and Fair Election Network (Fafen) has also highlighted the NA-10 constituency in its report on the conduct of the July 25 elections, noting that the women voter turnout was below the mandatory 10pc.

ANP candidate Saeed ur Rehman, who was the runner-up with a margin of fewer than 1,500 votes, says he is hopeful that election will be held again in the constituency.

He also claims that the July 25 polls were rigged by the PML-N candidate.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1423455/shangla-might-see-re-polls-due-to-low-turnout-of-women-voters
 
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