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Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him): The best of all creation and leader of mankind

Justcrazy said:
Even his prophet is debated , but from what we know from Quran , he is likely to be a prophet.
I have not personally come across any evidence that he is alive , but I think he is dead. I had evidence , but do not know whether it is authentic or not , but will find out.
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We can't say whether he is dead or alive right now as he was blessed with the gift of knowing through time as evidenced by Quran. If he lives in a dimension where time is not a constant and he can traverse through it, the whole equation for being dead or alive right now doesn't apply to him. It's so interesting that we simply don't know the secrets of universe.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
We can't say whether he is dead or alive right now as he was blessed with the gift of knowing through time as evidenced by Quran. If he lives in a dimension where time is not a constant and he can traverse through it, the whole equation for being dead or alive right now doesn't apply to him. It's so interesting that we simply don't know the secrets of universe.
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Well , I need some time to answer this. I do not want to say something on which I do not have proper evidence.
 
Suleiman said:
I never said Sahaba are sinless.
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It goes many levels deeper than. Just being sinless.

There is blood and murder. On their hands. Of prophet's family and thousands of other muslims.

Extrapolating qurani teaching. They effectively killed all of humanity.

That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity. ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land. - 5:32​
 
Farhan The Man said:
It goes many levels deeper than. Just being sinless.

There is blood and murder. On their hands. Of prophet's family and thousands of other muslims.

Extrapolating qurani teaching. They effectively killed all of humanity.

That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity. ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land. - 5:32​
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So what you conclude from that ? You just making statements.

You do not want to tell your stance , neither your conclusions , so what exactly do you want to discuss here ?
That is why I asked you , what is your exact issue?

is it with the concept of God or prophets or companions or general Muslims of today. We all know what happened , it is recorded , you are not adding anything new here.
 
Empirical conclusions:
  1. Pagan convert arabs, who spoke his language, didn't get the message. Consequently, south asian converts -- forced or otherwise -- don't hold a chance with "unreliably narrated hadees". Or quran for that very matter.
 
Farhan The Man said:
Empirical conclusions:
  1. Pagan convert arabs, who spoke his language, didn't get the message. Consequently, south asian converts -- forced or otherwise -- don't hold a chance with "unreliably narrated hadees". Or quran for that very matter.
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Is that your comment in response to mine?
 
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Peace be upon him, and on Prophets Jesus and Moses as listed 😌
 
Turkey arrests journalists over alleged cartoon of Prophet Muhammad

Four employees of a satirical magazine in Turkey have been arrested for publishing a cartoon that appears to show the Prophet Muhammad - a sacred religious figure whose depiction is forbidden in Islam.

Turkey's interior minister Ali Yerlikaya condemned LeMan magazine's drawing as "shameless", announcing that its editor-in-chief, graphic designer, institutional director and cartoonist had been detained.

In a post on the social media site X, LeMan denied its cartoon was a caricature of Muhammad, saying "the work does not refer to the Prophet Muhammed in any way".

Riot police were deployed in Istanbul on Monday as hundreds of people protested against the publication.

Protesters gathered outside LeMan's offices chanting slogans such as "tooth for tooth, blood for blood, revenge, revenge".

A correspondent for the Agence France-Presse (AFP) news agency reported seeing rubber bullets and tear gas being fired to disperse the crowd.

Turkey's minister of justice said an investigation had been initiated by the chief public prosecutor's office for "publicly insulting religious values".

"The caricature or any form of visual representation of our Prophet not only harms our religious values but also damages societal peace," Yilmaz Tunc wrote on X.

"Necessary legal steps will be taken without delay" against LeMan's journalists, he added.

Yerlikaya also shared videos of the four employees being arrested over the "vile drawing".

Arrest warrants have also been issued for other members of the magazine's senior management.

Images of the cartoon have appeared on social media, which show two characters with wings floating in the sky over a city under siege.

One of the characters is pictured saying "Peace be upon you, I'm Muhammed", and the other replying, "Peace be upon you, I'm Musa".

LeMan apologised to "well-intentioned readers who feel hurt" but defended its work and rejected allegations that the cartoon was a depiction of Muhammad.

"The cartoonist wanted to portray the righteousness of the oppressed Muslim people by depicting a Muslim killed by Israel, and he never intended to insult religious values," it said in a statement on X.

"We do not accept the stain that is cast on us because there is no depiction of our Prophet. You have to be very malicious to interpret the cartoon in this way."

LeMan's editor-in-chief Tuncay Akgun, who is currently in Paris, told AFP the work had been misinterpreted and the magazine would "never take such a risk".

He added that the backlash draws "similarities with Charlie Hebdo" which is "very intentional and very worrying", referencing the 2015 attack on the French satirical magazine after it published a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad.

Charlie Hebdo's offices were stormed by gunmen who killed 12 people and was one of the worst security crises in France's history.

BBC
 
Strange someone from an Islamic country would do it. That's inviting trouble.
 
BunnyRabbit said:
No need to waste your time with a troll/atheist/deciever whose sole purpose on this forum is showing off his Islamophobic traits.
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I am seriously confused about this character . he comes and makes statements and then runs away . When he is answered he is nowhere to be seen. Just makes random , baseless , shallow comments . He is not clear what he wants to tell.

If he is atheist , he should come out openly and discuss , never giving his own stance on anything.
 
Justcrazy said:
I am seriously confused about this character . he comes and makes statements and then runs away . When he is answered he is nowhere to be seen. Just makes random , baseless , shallow comments . He is not clear what he wants to tell.

If he is atheist , he should come out openly and discuss , never giving his own stance on anything.
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which is why i said you don't need to pay attention to these attention seekers. His purpose of life is hating on Islam probably. He is not here to learn
 
Justcrazy said:
I am seriously confused about this character . he comes and makes statements and then runs away . When he is answered he is nowhere to be seen. Just makes random , baseless , shallow comments . He is not clear what he wants to tell.

If he is atheist , he should come out openly and discuss , never giving his own stance on anything.
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Mods have confirmed he is an Indian pretending to be Pakistani and pretending to be an ex Muslim (says he went to madrasa for 11 years 😂 )and this is his latest alternate account. Posts from UAE. Irony speaks for itself.



On topic:

It’s incredible how many prophecies of Rasul Ullah SAW have come true. Subhan Allah.
 
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I have a feeling Prophet Mohammad PBUH was a reincarnation of Bhagwan Shiva in mortal form.

Do not that it is believed by many Sanatanis that the black stone in Mecca is in fact a Shiva linga. One of the most guarded secrets of Islam.
 
Bhaijaan said:
I have a feeling Prophet Mohammad PBUH was a reincarnation of Bhagwan Shiva in mortal form.

Do not that it is believed by many Sanatanis that the black stone in Mecca is in fact a Shiva linga. One of the most guarded secrets of Islam.
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Interesting. Haven’t heard that before. I did hear about Hindu scriptures potentially prophesying Prophet Muhammad PBUH

With these prophecies highlighting the names of his parents which apparently add up to the Arabic definition of their names from Sanskrit. (For eg his father’s name Abdullah- aka Servant of Allah or translated as God)

As well as the white horse / mule like being he rode on from Mecca all the way to Jerusalem (Al Quds) within what seems like seconds to minutes being in said prophecies as well, and the details of the land of Medina or Mecca in there too.

But again, I’m not an expert on Hindu scripture so this is just me relaying what I’ve read in passing and theories posted by Hindus.

Lastly, Prophet Muhammad PBUH before prophethood was the man of his tribe honored to put the black stone (Hijr Al Aswad) back into the Kaaba after the rebuilding phase, and the Quraish almost came to fighting in deciding who will have that honor before they agreed Prophet Muhammad PBUH should, even though he wasn’t part of that dispute whatsoever

So Allah gave that honor to Prophet Muhammad PBUH, with no fighting or anything preparing the Quraish mentally that the final messenger will be from amongst them.

Another interesting caveat is that the Jews who lived in Medina were expecting the final prophet to arrive in that area as their scriptures at the time described Medina as the location for his arrival. Even mentioning the mountain of Sela in Isaiah 42 in Medina.

However once they found out that Rasul Ullah SAW was Arab and an “Ismaelite” and not Jewish, many didn’t revert to Islam, but a good portion did
 
Aws ibn Aws reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, the best of your days is Friday. Adam was created on it, he died on it, the Trumpet will be blown on it, and the Shout will be made on it. Thus, send blessings upon me often, for your blessings are presented to me.”

Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 1047

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Nawawi
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Peace and blessings upon him.

Reminder for the Muslimeen including myself, may we stay firm on the Quran and authentic ahadith. Ameen 🤲
 
The best of all creation and leader of mankind? That's Lord Jesus Christ by miles.​
 
Hitman said:
The best of all creation and leader of mankind? That's Lord Jesus Christ by miles.​
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Muslims respect Prophet Essa (AS) as much as any other Prophet before, but MOHAMMAD (SAW) is the BEST AMONG ALL HUMAN BEINGS
 
BouncerGuy said:
Muslims respect Prophet Essa (AS) as much as any other Prophet before, but MOHAMMAD (SAW) is the BEST AMONG ALL HUMAN BEINGS
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That's the view of Muslims and I can understand that. I have a different view as a Christian.
 
Hitman said:
I merely posted my view. Hindus will have an opinion different from both of us.​
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I have already posted a thread on Prophet Isa (Yeshua / Jesus) PBUH already so you know for sure we love him too.

However Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the final messenger- this was clear in the books prior and even after much corruption has gone on in the Torah and Bible, there are still signs in there for those with open hearts and minds.

But for me this thread is not for bickering and arguing. It’s to remember and honor the best of all mankind, peace be upon him, the final messenger.

You are free to start your own thread about Jesus PBUH or post on mine that I made for him. Just know, there is 1 God who sent all these honored messengers, peace be upon them all, and we do not associate them with Him.

Take care.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Yeah.. sure.. Your opinion can be different..
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Yes absolutely.

Muslim will of course say it's Muhammad (SAW).

Some Christian will say its Jesus

Hindu will say its Ram or Hanuman or Krishna or perhaps Gai Matta, whichever sect they follow.


We should respect everyones right to hold these opinion. As @Suleiman has said why bicker about these things?

However, it is important to note that the mainstream Christian approach is that Jesus was not created but always existed as he is part of God.
 
For Muslims, all Prophets from the Abrahamic tradition are deeply respected and regarded as the best of creation. You will never find a true Muslim insulting any of the Prophets. The key difference, however, is that Muslims believe Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the final messenger of God.
 
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