Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!

[adi_62941]

Islamabad: After weeks of intense speculation, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has finally made the selection of two senior army generals as Chief of Army Staff and Chairman Joint Chief of Staff Committee, highly credible sources told Dawn News.
The news report of Dawn said that Lt Gen Raheel Sharif is being appointed as the COAS whereas Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood is being appointed as the CJCSC.
Both senior generals met Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif earlier today where the premier conveyed them the decision.
The prime minister is yet to make an announcement of the two appointments.

Source: http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?221178-Raheel-Sharif-Appointed-as-new-Army-Chief

 

[Ims1]

related to Nawaz ?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

related to Nawaz ?

No.

He is the younger brother of shabbir shareef, one of the recipients of the highest military award.

 

[LooneyReturns]

I don`t care , as long as he does not make the same mistake as Mushy . Hang Nawaz this time .

 

[the Great Khan]

sniority down the drain again and he appoints the IG training and evaluation. okaaayyy..think he wants a quiet three years to make lots of money and setup new sugar mills abroad.

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Slightly Disappointed. General Haroon Aslam or General Tariq Khan were better candidates for the post COAS. As both were battle hardened and led operation against taliban from front lines.

According to few sources, General Sharif is a moderate.

He is the younger brother of Nishan-e-Haider recipient Maj. Shabbir Sharif Shaheed (1971)

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Slightly Disappointed. General Haroon Aslam or General Tariq Khan were better candidates for the post COAS. As both were battle hardened and led operation against taliban from front lines.

According to few sources, General Sharif is a moderate.

He is the younger brother of Nishan-e-Haider recipient Maj. Shabbir Sharif Shaheed (1971)

Tariq khan is a pashtun, there was no chance of him getting the reigns of the army or for that matter, anyone other than a punjabi after the mushy experience.

Why is nawaz scared of pashtuns? Last time he overlooked Ali Quli Khan to give the job to Mushy.

 

[Bewal Express]

Is this guy the next president?

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Is he likely to be another American stooge or is this chap more independent than his predecessors?

On a lighter note - he has a high quality moustache so that's a good start.

 

[adi_62941]

According to media, he is a YES man for Nawaz....

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

Poor decision. Should've been Tariq Khan. Battle-hardened general with a genuine dislike for maulvis. Which may be one reason he was overlooked.

This is the second time Nawaz has overlooked the better candidate. Ali Quli Khan in 1998 and now Tariq Khan. Strong Pashtun men turn Nawaz off it seems. He probably remembers Kakar showing him the door after his tussle with GIK.

Raheel Sharif's parents must be proud though. A Nishan-e-Haider recipient and a CoAS for sons.

 

[Runner Up]

Shareef appoints a Shareef, what's the big deal.

 

[saadibaba]

Apparently, Nawaz and Raheel's wives are good friends. Both are Kashmiri and Lahoris, they even share the last name. Personal connections, ethnicity and being from the same city. This is how historic decisions of utmost importance are made in Pakistan. Not by the book, not by merit but by "source". In short, this decision defines what's wrong with Pakistan. We don't want to strengthen institutions and build confidence in merit and hard work. All that matters is who has connections. Even when it comes to appointing the COAS. What a joke!

 

[Ims1]

Apparently, Nawaz and Raheel's wives are good friends. Both are Kashmiri and Lahoris, they even share the last name. Personal connections, ethnicity and being from the same city. This is how historic decisions of utmost importance are made in Pakistan. Not by the book, not by merit but by "source". In short, this decision defines what's wrong with Pakistan. We don't want to strengthen institutions and build confidence in merit and hard work. All that matters is who has connections. Even when it comes to appointing the COAS. What a joke!

well he is taking out insurance against a coup & possible hanging

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

well he is taking out insurance against a coup & possible hanging

Last time he did that by appointing a fellow Lahori Kashmiri Ziauddin Butt. The rest is history.

Of course that was to replace a sitting CoAS he was at loggerheads with, and Butt was from the Engineering corps. But still.

 

[Ims1]

Last time he did that by appointing a fellow Lahori Kashmiri Ziauddin Butt. The rest is history.

Of course that was to replace a sitting CoAS he was at loggerheads with, and Butt was from the Engineering corps. But still.

you guys are so complicated

 

[srh]

Apparently, Nawaz and Raheel's wives are good friends. Both are Kashmiri and Lahoris, they even share the last name. Personal connections, ethnicity and being from the same city. This is how historic decisions of utmost importance are made in Pakistan. Not by the book, not by merit but by "source". In short, this decision defines what's wrong with Pakistan. We don't want to strengthen institutions and build confidence in merit and hard work. All that matters is who has connections. Even when it comes to appointing the COAS. What a joke!

I think this is Nawaz Sharif's preference in order (top to bottom) when he selects a person:
1) Same caste as his; from Lahore
2) Same caste as his; out of Lahore
3) Punjabi but not same caste as his; from Lahore
4) Punjabi but not same caste as his; out of Lahore
5) Urdu speaking
6) Everybody else

 

[youboy]

Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid

While I believe in destiny, I also believe in changing it through forces beyond this realm of existence. Allah is always the best of the planners.

For now, we will comment on the media reports about the new appointments.

Nawaz Shareef decided under fear but Allah will bring khair from it inshAllah. Every officer at the top had his own skill set and capabilities and in these times of war, each had their own role to play. Their mutual relationships also mattered and so does their temperaments and attitudes.

There were 4 officers in the run for the COAS, in order of seniority.

1. General Haroon Aslam, a Commando and a leader and a fighter who had seen and led wars.
2. General Rashad, a gentleman staff officer known for administrative skills.
3. General Raheel, a gentleman clean, patriotic officer known for intellectual, academic prowess and carries the legacy of his Shaheed Nishan e Haider brother Shabbir Shareef.
4. General Tariq, a true breed of fighting tiger known for war experience, courage and leadership. Comes from a family of proud traditional and brave Royalty, a man of high pedigree and intellectual caliber.

General Tariq is the only Pashtun in the group. Rest are from Punjab.

Now when the deck has been shuffled, following picture has emerged.

1. Rashad has moved as CJCSC, an academic, coordination and planning post. He is well suited there. Raheel could have also easily adjusted there by virtue of his academic and administrative experiences.
2. Raheel as become the COAS, at a time when the nation and country is in a state of bloody war. A tough duty for a very fine gentleman, where a bloody mess awaits him.
3. Tariq has officially become the senior most General after COAS and would unofficially be like vice chief of army staff.
4. Haroon has resigned.

Nawaz Shareef wanted to keep the two war experienced Generals out of equation completely. General Haroon and General Tariq both were the fighting types and very naively, he saw them as a threat. Typical sign of hollow and shallow leadership. So he totally ignored Haroon, who resigned after being superseded. Tariq was 4th in seniority anyways and thus was not superseded and he stays in the army – a blessing for Pakistan truly.

Now what is extremely encouraging in this combination is that army would be run by Raheel and he would be advised by his best friend General Tariq. Both are great friends, patriots, have good chemistry with each other and Raheel, gentleman as he is, respects and accepts Tariq’s fighting skills and courage with open heart. Both Raheel and Tariq would make a deadly duo inshAllah ! Where calm and academics is required, Raheel can prevail. Where aggression, courage and bulldozing the enemy is needed, Tariq would lead the march. Raheel cannot deliver without Tariq’s help in these deadly times. Afghanistan and FATA are regions of Tariq. He knows the people, language, tribes, terrain and its complex geo-politics. His family has lived in those mountains as Chieftains for 4 centuries. Tariq will be Raheel’s most trusted advisor, comrade and even mentor where Raheel finds the going rough.

If Nawaz wanted to keep Tariq out, he has failed miserably. Pakistan army is a solid institution, led and commanded by patriots, despite the utmost desire of the hollow politicians to turn it into a glorified police force or a bickering political party.

Pakistan now faces the most dangerous and existential threats since its creation. Politicians have proved that they are incapable of taking serious leadership roles. That is why they remain terrified of army all the time. It must be remembered that army never takes over by choice until the collapse becomes so critical that it threatens the state itself. The best insurance against Martial law is corruption free, good governing, solid political leadership which can give nation a new vision of hope. Why Quaid e Azam never feared a coup despite such economic collapse in the country at the time of creation? He commanded respect of the armed forces, that’s why. Nawaz is hated in the country, let alone respected by the army.

If Nawaz continues to follow the path of self inflicted destruction, which he is doing nowadays, then even the most gentlemanly officer of the army would also reprimand him. For now, NS has tried to play smart. He has planned but he forgets that Allah is the best of the planners. When Allah wants to humiliate a corrupt and incompetent ruler, He has many ways other than martial law. NS will find out very soon. Very soon.

But for the Pak army, we are happy. This is a good combination under the circumstances and inshAllah, now we can expect some aggressive and positive changes in the army and in the war against enemies.

We patriots offer full and unconditional support to the army leadership, especially to Raheel and Tariq. This team is a fighting, lethal combination, inshAllah !

InshAllah, khair for Pak Sarzameen. Pakistan Zindabaad !

 

[Ims1]

^ close thread ^

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

For once I agree with Laal Topi. Tariq Khan was needed at a time like this. He could've rallied the troops and really gone after the TTP. Plus he is from Karak and knows the terrain well, and has a true warrior's pedigree. Instead we get a "gentleman" relying on his brother's legacy and his wife's network.

 

[AZ]

wow, so many military insiders on PP...ISI should get info from them to eliminate the TTP.

 

[akheR]

Apparently, Nawaz and Raheel's wives are good friends. Both are Kashmiri and Lahoris, they even share the last name. Personal connections, ethnicity and being from the same city. This is how historic decisions of utmost importance are made in Pakistan. Not by the book, not by merit but by "source". In short, this decision defines what's wrong with Pakistan. We don't want to strengthen institutions and build confidence in merit and hard work. All that matters is who has connections. Even when it comes to appointing the COAS. What a joke!

How comes Raheel Sharif is Kashmiri when his family is of Bhatti-Rana clan ? If he is, that's already a positive before inaugurating the CoaS stint.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

How comes Raheel Sharif is Kashmiri when his family is of Bhatti-Rana clan ? If he is, that's already a positive before inaugurating the CoaS stint.

I've met Bhatti Rajputs from Kashmir.

 

[akheR]

Last time he did that by appointing a fellow Lahori Kashmiri Ziauddin Butt. The rest is history.

Of course that was to replace a sitting CoAS he was at loggerheads with, and Butt was from the Engineering corps. But still.

Isn't Zia-ud-Din from his wife's family ?
Also, Nawaz Sharif has been politically birthed by Lt Gn. Ghulam Jilani Khan, who was also a Kashmiri ; Zia ul Haq needed a token politician to counter the influence of PPP in urban Punjab (like he promoted MQM in urban Sindh) and he gave the job to the then Governor of Punjab to find one man who could fill the boots - Lt Gn. chose Nawaz Sharif, and, I'm not sure, but many say that apart from his business portfolio, it was also because they shared ancestral roots in the Valley.
I'd like you to confirm that version... Ghulam Jilani Khan also fought against India in Kashmir

 

[Markhor]

There has always been a tinge of irony with COAS appointments.

Bhutto appointed Zia, over the heads of many more senior generals, in the hope that he would be a puppet. Commence Operation 'Fair Play'.

Sharif clearly didn't learn the lesson when he appointed Musharraf two decades on.

Time will tell whether this appointment will fare any better.

 

[Runner Up]

Was listening to Kamran Khan on Geo he said, he (New Chief) will retire after three years so Nawaz Sharif will have to make another big decision after three years. I think Nawaz Sharif is the only Prime Minister who has appointed majority of chiefs.

 

[Inswinger]

No.

He is the younger brother of shabbir shareef, one of the recipients of the highest military award.

And the nephew of Major Aziz Bhatti , another Nishan-e-Haider recipient.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

Isn't Zia-ud-Din from his wife's family ?
Also, Nawaz Sharif has been politically birthed by Lt Gn. Ghulam Jilani Khan, who was also a Kashmiri ; Zia ul Haq needed a token politician to counter the influence of PPP in urban Punjab (like he promoted MQM in urban Sindh) and he gave the job to the then Governor of Punjab to find one man who could fill the boots - Lt Gn. chose Nawaz Sharif, and, I'm not sure, but many say that apart from his business portfolio, it was also because they shared ancestral roots in the Valley.
I'd like you to confirm that version... Ghulam Jilani Khan also fought against India in Kashmir

Probably true. Abba Jee's buttering up of Gen. Jilani is the stuff of legends. It was Abba Jee who sucked up to the General and got Jilani to notice his beloved son, a failed actor and cricketer. It all started with the Sharifs fixing a fence at the Governor's House for free. Nawaz admitted as much in that interview with Najam Sethi's daughter.

Is that a smug smirk on Gen Jilani's face or did he suffer from Bell's Palsy?

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

And the nephew of Major Aziz Bhatti , another Nishan-e-Haider recipient.

If I remember correctly, Aziz Bhatti's family was from Rawalpindi and Shabbir Sharif's from Chakwal. How then did Raheel Sharif end up as a Lahori?

I think it is his wife that is a Lahori Kashmiri. Not that it matters too much. To them we're all bloody civvies.

 

[Inswinger]

If I remember correctly, Aziz Bhatti's family was from Rawalpindi and Shabbir Sharif's from Chakwal. How then did Raheel Sharif end up as a Lahori?

I think it is his wife that is a Lahori Kashmiri. Not that it matters too much. To them we're all bloody civvies.

Not sure where Major Aziz Bhatti's family was from but I know he lived in Gujrat. Major Shabbir Sharif was also born in Gujrat. Their family roots are in Gujrat.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

Not sure where Major Aziz Bhatti's family was from but I know he lived in Gujrat. Major Shabbir Sharif was also born in Gujrat. Their family roots are in Gujrat.

Yes, you're right. Both families are from/lived in Gujrat. I must've been thinking of some of the other Nishan-e-Haider recipients when I said Chakwal. Quite a few of them were from Rawalpindi division. If memory serves me right, there is a Rawalpindi connection with Aziz Bhatti too. I forget what though.

Shabbir Sharif was a real hothead of an officer, praised by the Indians too afterwards. "Politics aside, he was a damn fine officer," said the Indian commander.

 

[insaftak]

After 3 years he will appoint another one. Just saying

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

After 3 years he will appoint another one. Just saying

Yes. And I'm sure he quite enjoys having the Generals suck up to him in the hope that they will be chosen.

Sort of like elections, where for a few glorious months the awaam suddenly matter to the politicians. So do these CoAS decisions, where the Generals truly have their fate in the hands of a bloody civvie PM.

 

[akheR]

Yes, you're right. Both families are from/lived in Gujrat. I must've been thinking of some of the other Nishan-e-Haider recipients when I said Chakwal. Quite a few of them were from Rawalpindi division. If memory serves me right, there is a Rawalpindi connection with Aziz Bhatti too. I forget what though.

Shabbir Sharif was a real hothead of an officer, praised by the Indians too afterwards. "Politics aside, he was a damn fine officer," said the Indian commander.

Chakwal is dominated by Minhas Rajputs.
Per capita, Chakwal is know to have produced the most decorated soldiers per capita in Punjab (and amongst the best in South Asia as a whole), and the first Victorian Cross from the SC, Khudadad Khan, or the very first Muslim general of the the SC and later first general of the Pakistan Army, Muhammed Akbar Khan, were both Minhas Rajputs from Chakwal (Akbar's brother, Major General Iftikhar Khan, was supposed to tbe Pakistan's first native CoaS, but an unfortunate death put the toss between Major General Sher Ali Khan Pataudi and Ayyub Khan ; despite the uncle of the Bollywood star being favourite, history wanted the Hindko-speaking Pakhtun more "Punjabi than Punjabis" to rule and inaugurate a tradition of military coup d'états in the country, whereas Iftikhar and Sher Ali Khan both were pretty much "apolitical".)

So they can be related, in their family there were inter marriages between Ranas and Bhattis why not Minhas'.

 

[insaftak]

Yes. And I'm sure he quite enjoys having the Generals suck up to him in the hope that they will be chosen.

Sort of like elections, where for a few glorious months the awaam suddenly matter to the politicians. So do these CoAS decisions, where the Generals truly have their fate in the hands of a bloody civvie PM.

Don't worry. we PTI walas are trying to **** off the generals and have them fight with Mian sahab

No more Sattu for Generals

 

[srh]

Chakwal is dominated by Minhas Rajputs.
Per capita, Chakwal is know to have produced the most decorated soldiers per capita in Punjab (and amongst the best in South Asia as a whole), and the first Victorian Cross from the SC, Khudadad Khan, or the very first Muslim general of the the SC and later first general of the Pakistan Army, Muhammed Akbar Khan, were both Minhas Rajputs from Chakwal (Akbar's brother, Major General Iftikhar Khan, was supposed to tbe Pakistan's first native CoaS, but an unfortunate death put the toss between Major General Sher Ali Khan Pataudi and Ayyub Khan ; despite the uncle of the Bollywood star being favourite, history wanted the Hindko-speaking Pakhtun more "Punjabi than Punjabis" to rule and inaugurate a tradition of military coup d'états in the country, whereas Iftikhar and Sher Ali Khan both were pretty much "apolitical".)

So they can be related, in their family there were inter marriages between Ranas and Bhattis why not Minhas'.

I think USA was also involved in the progression of Ayyub Khan. A book is USA said that Ayyub Khan used to get money from CIA payroll.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

People are naive to think that Nawaz Sharif made the final appointment . NS has learned his lesson and this was a mutual decision .

 

[Markhor]

I think USA was also involved in the progression of Ayyub Khan. A book is USA said that Ayyub Khan used to get money from CIA payroll.

Safe to say Ayub was a bit of a US stooge.

'My army is your army'.

 

[zimmz]

Chakwal is dominated by Minhas Rajputs.
Per capita, Chakwal is know to have produced the most decorated soldiers per capita in Punjab (and amongst the best in South Asia as a whole), and the first Victorian Cross from the SC, Khudadad Khan, or the very first Muslim general of the the SC and later first general of the Pakistan Army, Muhammed Akbar Khan, were both Minhas Rajputs from Chakwal (Akbar's brother, Major General Iftikhar Khan, was supposed to tbe Pakistan's first native CoaS, but an unfortunate death put the toss between Major General Sher Ali Khan Pataudi and Ayyub Khan ; despite the uncle of the Bollywood star being favourite, history wanted the Hindko-speaking Pakhtun more "Punjabi than Punjabis" to rule and inaugurate a tradition of military coup d'états in the country, whereas Iftikhar and Sher Ali Khan both were pretty much "apolitical".)

So they can be related, in their family there were inter marriages between Ranas and Bhattis why not Minhas'.

This I can confirm...being from chakwal, son and relative of men serving/served defence forces.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

And the nephew of Major Aziz Bhatti , another Nishan-e-Haider recipient.

Oh ok.

Interesting fact - District Gujrat has produced 3 Nishan-e-Haider recipients. The most out of any other.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

apparently he is a ''tall, confident man with a booming voice and a soldiers' nuance''

Must have been some interview

 

[Saeed]

This guy doesn't look tough at all.

 

[akheR]

Profile: Lt General Raheel Sharif

Born in Quetta on June 16, 1956 to Major and Mrs Muhammad Sharif, newly-appointed army chief Raheel Sharif grew up steeped in the military tradition.

Sharif’s elder brother, Shabbir Sharif, was a course-mate of General (rtd) Pervez Musharraf, and was killed during the 1971 war with India and was awarded the Nishan-i-Haider, Pakistan's highest military award.

He attained his formal education at Government College Lahore and later went on to attend the Pakistan Military Academy.

After graduation, he was commissioned in 1976 in the battle hardened and renowned 6th battalion The Frontier Force Regiment in which his elder brother was also commissioned.

As a young officer, he performed his duties in Gilgit in an infantry brigade and also served as adjutant of Pakistan Military Academy.

Over the years, Sharif climbed up the military ladder mentored by Musharraf who handed him command of the 11th Infantry Division in Lahore.

Despite the common surname, Raheel Sharif is not related to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, but is known to be close to tribal affairs minister Lieutenant-General Abdul Qadir Baloch, a key confidante of the Sharif family.

As a brigadier, he has commanded two infantry brigades including an independent infantry brigade group.

He has been the General Officer Commanding of an infantry division and the Commandant of the prestigious Pakistan Military Academy.

As a Lieutenant General, Sharif served as Corps Commander for two years before taking over as Inspector General Training and Evaluation in which capacity he oversaw the training of Pakistan Army.

He was also awarded the Hilal-i-Imtiaz, the second highest civilian award and honour that is given to both civilians and military officers of the Pakistan armed forces.

On Nov 27, the government approved Sharif’s appointment for the slot of Chief of Army Staff, a position that he will be taking over from Ashfaq Parvez Kayani who will be stepping down on Nov 29 after serving as military chief for six years.

The general is married with two sons and a daughter.

http://dawn.com/news/1058941/profile-lt-general-raheel-sharif

Lt Gen Raheel Sharif profile and Family Background

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[DoosraTeesra]

Tariq khan is a pashtun, there was no chance of him getting the reigns of the army or for that matter, anyone other than a punjabi after the mushy experience.

Why is nawaz scared of pashtuns? Last time he overlooked Ali Quli Khan to give the job to Mushy.

Just like mum president. He chose a rather dheela-dhaala as COAS.

Tariq Khan or Haroon Aslam were probably too intimidating for him.

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Some Pictures of Farewell dinner hosted by PM NS for Gen. Kayani.

The new army chief and the CJCSC are standing on the right side.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Just like mum president. He chose a rather dheela-dhaala as COAS.

Tariq Khan or Haroon Aslam were probably too intimidating for him.

Zia was meant to be dheela dhaala as well as Mush..... But look what happened there.

 

[justarslan]

Zia was meant to be dheela dhaala as well as Mush..... But look what happened there.

It is all about mustache. Sharif ko lay doobay ga muchar.

 

[saadibaba]

The new chief bears an uncanny resemblance with Saddam Hussein.

 

[saadibaba]

The resemblance to Saddam also extends to the actors who've played him, like the one in the Charlie Sheen movie "Hot Shots" or the HBO series on Saddam.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

I hate these new camouflage fatigues they're wearing these days. Makes them look like an African warlord's militia.

The old khaki uniforms were so much better. At least then we could quote Iqbal, "Yeh khaki apni fitrat mein, na noori hai na naari hai." Also meant that you could buy army surplus pants for school uniforms.

 

[kayanni]

the link to him being appointed is not only because of the personal links but the fact Nawaz ears was nobbled by one of his cabinet ministers - Gen (Ret'd) Abdul Qadir Baloch who was twice Raheel's commanding officer in Quetta and Gujanwala.

kayanni wanted Gen Rashad to take ovver.

Hey ho - our coups have always been done by the General who we though were yes men!!!

 

[Down2Earth]

What an epic tash. Best of luck

 

[the Great Khan]

well im sad that Haroon Aslam has had to resign as he was a real soldiers soldeir. But I'm glad Tariq Khan is still in the army. And if he is an adviser for the current chief then all the better. from what ive read Kayani reccommended raheel and the new CJSC. Hence Haroon's resignation. Sad we have lost such a fine officer.

 

[the Great Khan]

Also just a little insider info about the 99 coup. Musharref was not in on it until the very last minute when he was informed that this would happen. He probably knew that there was a plan in case something drastic were to be attempted by Nawaz as our ameer ul momineen had crossed every red line one can think of. So if you want to know if there could be a coup in future look at the generals who are going to be appointed below the new chief. e.g Tariq Khan and the corp commander 111 brigade and so forth.

also another thing to keep an eye on is the PMA long course the general attended.

 

[akheR]

Well @Nostalgic, apparently he's an Arain (like Zia ul Hack)... didn't know Bhatti/Rana were Arain names.

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well im sad that Haroon Aslam has had to resign as he was a real soldiers soldeir. But I'm glad Tariq Khan is still in the army. And if he is an adviser for the current chief then all the better. from what ive read Kayani reccommended raheel and the new CJSC. Hence Haroon's resignation. Sad we have lost such a fine officer.

Probably felt betrayed for the right reasons

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[akheR]

General Haroon ignores PM’s dinner, will resign today

ISLAMABAD: It seems that the military coup of October 12, 1999 came back to haunt the senior-most general, Haroon Aslam, blocking his appointment as the new army chief. He registered his silent protest by not attending the prime minister’s dinner on Wednesday night. Sources claim that the corridors of power were already abuzz with the information that General Haroon had played a key role as Director of Military Operations on October 12, 1999 alongwith the-then DGMO Major General Shahid Aziz to oust Nawaz Sharif from power. Then, Brigadier Haroon led the team to arrest all the cabinet members, including the then Nawaz.

“Yes, Haroon was one of the two directors at the MO Directorate, under my command, who did whatever I ordered him to do on October 12, 1999,” Lt Gen (retd) Shahid Aziz told this correspondent on July 7, 2013. Aziz was then a major general and DGMO who has openly confessed to his role in the last military coup in his recently-published autobiography ‘Yah Khamoshi Kahan Tak’.

However, Shahid had added in the same breath that all the senior generals, including Haroon Aslam, were fit for the slot of the chief of army staff.On the other hand, Lt Gen Haroon had his side of the story that he used to tell his confidants. “What he did was not on his own. He was following the orders of his chain of command.”

Another possible reason Lt Gen Haroon Aslam could not win any slot, according to the sources, is that he was a Special Services Group commando and Nawaz Sharif does not like commandos, particularly after his experience with Gen Pervez Musharraf.

The sources in Islamabad also claim that somebody had already whispered to Nawaz Sharif regarding the background of Lt Gen Haroon Aslam.Yet another reason of Gen Aslam losing the top slot is the opinion of outgoing army chief Gen Kayani who was against the appointment of Haroon on any slot.

The sources also claim that the newly-appointed Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Rashad Mahmood was a full colonel working with the Chief of Staff to the Corps HQ on Oct 12, 1999 in Rawalpindi. However, he did not land in any controversy.

Gen Aslam, as a token of silent protest, did not appear in the dinner hosted in the Prime Minister’s House on late Wednesday night. The sources said that he would be tendering his formal resignation on Thursday to the Defence Ministry and moving to Lahore for finalising his future plans thus not attending the change of command ceremony as well.

But after the news appeared on the media announcing the new chief, Lt Gen Haroon Aslam phoned his junior colleagues Gen Raheel Sharif and Gen Rashad, congratulating and greeting them on their promotions.

The sources claim when a cake cutting ceremony was being held at the Lahore residence of General Raheel Sharif’s sister, Imrana Najfi and the newly-appointed chief was receiving guests and calls greeting him for winning the prized post, Lt Gen Haroon Aslam was receiving guests and calls of sympathy in Rawalpindi.

“Lt Gen Haroon Aslam was visibly down but was honorably receiving all the guests and giving smiles to each of them,” a close aid of Gen Aslam said.It is also pertinent to note that it was Ch Nisar who had played a key role in appointing General Pervez Musharraf as the army chief in 1998. This time he was not visibly active or part of the final deliberations for the appointment of the new chief.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-26927-General-Haroon-ignores-PMs-dinner-will-resign-today

 

[srh]

commandos are hot headed and unpredictable so I can see why Nawaz wants to stay away from them.

 

[kinventor]

Well @Nostalgic, apparently he's an Arain (like Zia ul Hack)... didn't know Bhatti/Rana were Arain names.

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Probably felt betrayed for the right reasons

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Bhati are a clan of Rajputs and Jatts found in South Asia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhati

 

[Ims1]

Akher's post :ISLAMABAD: It seems that the military coup of October 12, 1999 came back to haunt the senior-most general, Haroon Aslam, blocking his appointment as the new army chief. He registered his silent protest by not attending the prime minister’s dinner on Wednesday night. Sources claim that the corridors of power were already abuzz with the information that General Haroon had played a key role as Director of Military Operations on October 12, 1999 alongwith the-then DGMO Major General Shahid Aziz to oust Nawaz Sharif from power. Then, Brigadier Haroon led the team to arrest all the cabinet members, including the then Nawaz.

Reading above,seems like Shariff 's path ahead is not going to be a bed of roses .

 

[Runner Up]

Lt Gen Haroon Aslam resigned from ‪‎Army‬

 

[akheR]

Akher's post :ISLAMABAD: It seems that the military coup of October 12, 1999 came back to haunt the senior-most general, Haroon Aslam, blocking his appointment as the new army chief. He registered his silent protest by not attending the prime minister’s dinner on Wednesday night. Sources claim that the corridors of power were already abuzz with the information that General Haroon had played a key role as Director of Military Operations on October 12, 1999 alongwith the-then DGMO Major General Shahid Aziz to oust Nawaz Sharif from power. Then, Brigadier Haroon led the team to arrest all the cabinet members, including the then Nawaz.

Reading above,seems like Shariff 's path ahead is not going to be a bed of roses .

My post was about Lt Gen Haroon Aslam (not Raheel Sharif), who was the senior-most candidate and the "logical" choice for CoaS, but hasn't been for what you just read.
He (Lt Gen Haroon Aslam) resigned from the Army as protest.

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Lt. Gen Haroon Aslam resigned

 

[0tt0man]

My post was about Lt Gen Haroon Aslam (not Raheel Sharif), who was the senior-most candidate and the "logical" choice for CoaS, but hasn't been for what you just read.
He (Lt Gen Haroon Aslam) resigned from the Army as protest.

Calling it a protest would be taking this a wee bit far imo. It's an Army tradition for Generals, who are super ceded in promotion, to resign.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

The last time the senior-most Lt. Gen got the top slot was Jehangir Karamat if I'm not mistaken. I forget if that was also the case with Waheed Kakar or Asif Nawaz Janjua. In Kakar's case it may have been a rushed decision given Janjua's sudden death.

 

[kinventor]

Official press release.

Lieutenant General Raheel Sharif, Hilal-i-Imtiaz (Military) hails from a martial stock. He was born in Quetta on 16 June 1956 to Major and Mrs Muhammad Sharif. He is younger brother of Major Shabir Sharif, NH, SJ and Capt Mumtaz Sharif, Sbt. He is an alumnus of Govt College Lahore, and Pakistan Military Academy from where he passed out with 54th PMA Long Course. He was commissioned in Oct 1976 in the battle hardened and renowned 6th Battalion The Frontier Force Regiment in which his elder brother had embraced Shahadat.

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?latest=1&o=t-press_release

Hahaha didnt expect this from ISPR

 

[kinventor]

I think this is Nawaz Sharif's preference in order (top to bottom) when he selects a person:
1) Same caste as his; from Lahore
2) Same caste as his; out of Lahore
3) Punjabi but not same caste as his; from Lahore
4) Punjabi but not same caste as his; out of Lahore
5) Urdu speaking
6) Everybody else

But Raheel is from Kunjah, district Gujrat.

 

[Nostalgic]

Raheel Sharif Appointed as new Army Chief!!!!

Official press release.

Lieutenant General Raheel Sharif, Hilal-i-Imtiaz (Military) hails from a martial stock. He was born in Quetta on 16 June 1956 to Major and Mrs Muhammad Sharif. He is younger brother of Major Shabir Sharif, NH, SJ and Capt Mumtaz Sharif, Sbt. He is an alumnus of Govt College Lahore, and Pakistan Military Academy from where he passed out with 54th PMA Long Course. He was commissioned in Oct 1976 in the battle hardened and renowned 6th Battalion The Frontier Force Regiment in which his elder brother had embraced Shahadat.

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?latest=1&o=t-press_release

Hahaha didnt expect this from ISPR

Only the ISPR can make "martial stock" sound like bouillon. Or a stocking for that matter.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Haroon Aslam did not enjoy the support of the top brass and was getting on a bit. Add to this 14 years ago the then Brigader Aslam was the one who arrested all of sharifs political staff in the coup

He was never gonna get the job

Similarly general Mahmood was also considered to political but since he enjoyed support from the top brass he has been given a largely ceremonial position.

So from Nawaz's point view this was the most logical choice

 

[Bashira_taeli]

I was rooting for Tariq Khan and Haroon Aslam because of their involvement in ops against the TTP pigs, but it seems Nawaz for looking for a shareef banda.

Here is an interesting wikileak about Tariq Khan.

CODE: PK7
PUBLICATION: Analysis
DESCRIPTION: Newly promoted Lt-Gen and appointed head of the 1st Corps.
Used to run the Frontier Corps until last week.
ATTRIBUTION: STRATFOR sources in Pakistan
SOURCE RELIABILITY: A
ITEM CREDIBILITY: 1
SPECIAL HANDLING: Not Applicable
DISTRIBUTION: Analysts
HANDLER: Kamran

Kamran, good to hear from you. Thank you for your kind sentiments. I have
taken over 1 Corps which is transitioning into Central Command for the Pak
Army i.e. it shall coordinate operations for 30 and 11 Corps while
maintaining 1 Corps and 19 Division as well as the FC as direct command
troops. Its not there yet and will take a while before it really completes
the transformation. The killing of the troops was based on typical
arrogance and ignorance that is a trait of the US Army. They picked up an
Afghan source who deliberately mislead them into engaging our post. The
enquiry reveals that the US pilots having lived in the area for 11 months
did not even know the geography and had not marked their maps. They did
not use the instruments that we had put into place for coordination i.e.
liaison officers, joint border coordination cell or the video
conferencing. As such my response was swift, serious and conclusive. The
ball is in their court; the FC cannot be treated like this and I had told
them, no drones or cross border activity in my AOR since I am clear what
to do. You can use this information but please do not quote me since it
will be a breach of institutional ethics. You shall hear a mix of confused
statements, i.e. we are looking for alternative routes ( I know nothing
can support operations as this route so that is a lot of bull), that the
road will open soon, (it will only open when we are satisfied), it was a
case of friendly fire (it was gross incompetence and total lack of
concern), This has no impact ( everyday there is a squeal form some
quarter or another). I want a public apology, compensation for the
families of the shaheeds and wounded, new rules of engagement, punishment
for the offenders, definition of a no fly zone parallel to the border.
Take care and watch the fun.

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=951781

 

[asifp]

I was rooting for Tariq Khan and Haroon Aslam because of their involvement in ops against the TTP pigs, but it seems Nawaz for looking for a shareef banda.

Here is an interesting wikileak about Tariq Khan.

if only this attitude was out there in public

 

[srh]

There are some news that Haroon Aslam tried to lobby to get Army Chief post and that went against him. He tried to meet Nawaz Sharif separately from other officers on 14 August and that turn off the army leadership. And apparently Kayani advised Nawaz to not select Haroon Aslam.

 

[akheR]

Gen Raheel takes Charge as COAS

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[endymion248]

Verdict from PPers on RS?

 

[AZ]

so far so good, seems to be a proper soldier and sticks to his domain.

 

[junaid.ahmed]

real face of army, manhood standing tall strict to the principles real patriotic man who never shows his back to the enemy & always get to the most difficult places where his army fighting to boost their morale, bold daring courageous

 

[junaid.ahmed]

^ & yet no political

 

[junaid.ahmed]

and if you have moodi like pm in your neighbors you must need an army chief like raheel

 

[Deosai]

Funny how people were calling Raheel a bad pick, and not tough enough lol

 

[dzor]

Raheel Sharif looks like a friendlier version of Saddam Hussein lol

 

[PetroDollars]

Kayanni was also highly praised during his first couple of years, now look at how people see him.