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PM Shehbaz Sharif hosted Pakistan and England Test teams for dinner after the visitors won the first Test of three-match series in Rawalpindi today.

During his speech on this occasion, PM Shehbaz lauded the PCB chief as the two met for the first time after the change of government.

"Ramiz Raha has done a great job as PCB Chairman,"

"I was young in a government college and his [Ramiz Raja] father was then Additional Commissioner Lahore and he was a great fan of cricket. We used to get free cricket passes from him. That's how we know each other"
 
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Rambo has done some good things like the PJL but his and the management's negativity in respect of pitches is unforgivable. Its not as if its produced results.
 
MenInG said:
During his speech on this oc"Ramiz Raha has done a great job as PCB chairman," the PM applauded. "I was young in a government college and his [Ramiz Raja] father was then Additional Commissioner Lahore and he was a great fan of cricket. We used to get free cricket passes from him. That's how we know each other" he recalled.
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People with powerful patrons like a PM needn't worry about outside criticism.
 
Ramiz has done well. He is well-respected in the cricket world & he knows how to carry himself & portray a positive image. That is what you want from your chairman.

Those who are blaming him for the pitches have lost it. As the chairman you have too many things on your plate to worry about cricket decisions, i.e. selection, pitches, style of play etc.

I am sure Ramiz had a lot to do with convincing England to carry on.

Last year Pakistan were humiliated when New Zealand called off the tour hours before the first match started because of a rumor & the incompetent Wasim Khan had to be kicked out because of his failure to convince the New Zealand executives to carry on.

The only criticism that I would make is that Ramiz has made frequent foolish statements against India but we have to understand that Pakistan is a deluded nation & a lot of what he said is for public consumption & his personal PR.

Pakistan is a deeply mediocre team that is scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of talent. Our fans have big mouths & they talk a lot but the reality is there for everyone to see. Pakistan cricket is all bark & no bite.

Changing the chairman will not change Pakistan’s status as a mediocre team. I would personally like to see Ramiz see off his contract because he has done well so far.
 
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MenInG said:
PM Shehbaz Sharif hosted Pakistan and England Test teams for dinner after the visitors won the first Test of three-match series in Rawalpindi today.

During his speech on this occasion, PM Shehbaz lauded the PCB chief as the two met for the first time after the change of government.

"Ramiz Raha has done a great job as PCB Chairman,"

"I was young in a government college and his [Ramiz Raja] father was then Additional Commissioner Lahore and he was a great fan of cricket. We used to get free cricket passes from him. That's how we know each other"
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Rameez has certainly done well to cling on to the job despite delivering little and and in doing so going about it in the most clown like way.
 
Need to give credit to Shahbaz Sharif for showing maturity by not removing Ramiz just because he was a PTI appointee.
 
Don't see a change on the cards. Ramiz is well connected politically and is savvy enough not to put all his eggs in PTI basket having cultivated ties with PMLN too.

The only positives from Ramiz's era are the scholarship programme and introducing foreign coaches to domestic cricket. Apart from that, he's been an unmitigated disaster. The chargesheet includes:

- Giving unchecked power to incompetent captain Babar.

- Appointing Saqlain as a permanent head coach despite having no head coach experience, and who's merely a yesman for Babar.

- Chief Selector Mohammad Wasim reduced to a rubberstamp.

- Sacking coaches at NHPC without naming any replacements. Seriously, have we appointed anyone to replace Saqlain, Yousuf, Bradburn, Atiq and Zahid ?

- Pursuing illogical pet projects like drop-in pitches and PJL.

- Making grand statements about improving pitches but doing jack.

- Making nonsensical public statements - blank check, losing not an option, playing to galleries over India, pitches etc.
 
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Ramiz should be shown the door. Don't know why SS is showing so much patience with this incompetent loudmouth administrator. If it was Imran Khan , first thing he would do is kick out PML N Appointed Administrator after coming to power. SS is such a Softie.
 
Rameez's negatives are that he removed misbah, has no coach for pakisatn and made pathetic wicketsntwoce at rawalpindi. He could had utilized Misbah and kept him in the team. I can gurantee you that under misbahs coaching and with a captain of misbahs choice, pakistan would had never lost to england.

However there is one thing because of which i would rate rameez raja amongst the best chairman ever. He kept fixers out of the team. He made a strict policy. Guys like amir and sharjeel khan can never make a comeback, and i feel good about this.

Rameez deserves respect for this
 
boomboomcheema said:
Ramiz should be shown the door. Don't know why SS is showing so much patience with this incompetent loudmouth administrator. If it was Imran Khan , first thing he would do is kick out PML N Appointed Administrator after coming to power. SS is such a Softie.
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Im no fan of SS but seriously IK was the one who put rambo in
 
Sounds like the sort of statement that's made before someone is sacked.
 
MenInG said:
PM Shehbaz Sharif hosted Pakistan and England Test teams for dinner after the visitors won the first Test of three-match series in Rawalpindi today.

During his speech on this occasion, PM Shehbaz lauded the PCB chief as the two met for the first time after the change of government.

"Ramiz Raha has done a great job as PCB Chairman,"

"I was young in a government college and his [Ramiz Raja] father was then Additional Commissioner Lahore and he was a great fan of cricket. We used to get free cricket passes from him. That's how we know each other"
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First and probably last time I agree with PM.
 
Users saying 'bring back Sethi' is nigh-on laughable.

If you don't know what's happening politically in Pakistan right now, I suggest you watch some of his latest interviews. The man is a loyal as those that pay his cheques.
 
This looks like the dreaded vote of confidence that football managers get from the Board before they are booted out.
 
2023 world cup in India, will be good to hear ramiz back on commentary again.
 
So basically in Pakistan whether you keep or job or not depends entirely on how well you know the sharif family
 
Ramiz is a great chairman because he has good English grammar:usman
 
Yes, Ramiz especially through PSL has generated a lot of revenue and that's what matters to the Sharif family. Who cares about the team unless the money keeps pouring.
 
I guess not much that Ramiz has done wrong so far. A lot of my relatives in Pakistan are appreciative of the hard work he is doing at the grassroots level.
 
Saj said:
Sounds like the sort of statement that's made before someone is sacked.
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Hahaha, I got that impression too. However, I'm not looking forward to his reappearance in the commentary box.
 
As per media reports, Najam sethi is considered a strong candidate who will replace Ramiz Raja as Chairman PCB.

Najam Sethi met Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif today in Lahore who d has indicated that Sethi should lead the way as Chairman.
 
If the news of RR's sacking is true, its a not good news , he is the most qualified person for the job and under the circumstances was doing not perfect but a good job.

He will be back, hopefully, after the general elections.
 
moghul said:
If the news of RR's sacking is true, its a not good news , he is the most qualified person for the job and under the circumstances was doing not perfect but a good job.

He will be back, hopefully, after the general elections.
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Makes no difference. Rambo has talked a good game, and in the administration side done some good stuff but what matters is an improvement in the team and this team is pretty useless. Such is the negativety from him and Babar that our bowling, which was our strength has become more innocuous than BDs. Good riddance to RR
 
Indian Media reporting that Rambo is about to be sacked.

But why Sethi saheb? PCB doesn't have anyone else?
 
Terrible stuff if RR is sacked. He has been really good as PCB chairman.
 
Ramiz needs to go asap. This guy is all talk but did absolutely nothing, failed completely and deserved to be sacked. He kept failure like Babar as captain, Fraud like Saqlain, Relu Katta like Majed as fielding coach and idiot like Yousuf and no-skilled Tait and Macbook show off like Wasim along with failure players like Nauman, Zahid, Fahim.....
 
This could only happen in Pak when the PM
can sack the chairman of the cricket board.

It’s irrelevant how well Rambo has done as it’s embarrassing to bring back a sell out journalist who hasn’t got a clue about cricket.

We will soon be playing cricket with the associated teams.
 
Keep thread free of politics.

You can discuss the pros and cons of each candidate in cricketing/admin terms - no need to discuss PTI/PMLN etc
 
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Clock is ticking it seems.

Maybe that's why so many statements from him.
 
Saj said:
Clock is ticking it seems.

Maybe that's why so many statements from him.
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The PZ chairman also didn’t attend the PSL draft because Ramiz apparently called Peshawar a red zone in one of his interviews
 
Saj said:
This looks like the dreaded vote of confidence that football managers get from the Board before they are booted out.
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It’s certainly got that feel.
Coming close to speaking in past tense.

After the series has concluded I think that Ramiz will get replaced, and then there will be changes to other leadership roles within the Pak team as well.
 
There are only reports of Sethi taking over - there is no confirmation so appreciate people not adding news/tweets etc
 
MenInG said:
There are only reports of Sethi taking over - there is no confirmation so appreciate people not adding news/tweets etc
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Unless we hear it from PML N people, it can't be confirmed.
 
If the clown is removed i hope he doesnt go back into the commentary box, i have had enough of Rameez and his garbage speechs.
 
rambo should get to complete his tenure, but objectively i am not sure what he has achieved. the PJL is his only initiative and its too soon to judge whether it was a success.

what the PCB needs is devolution from the federal government, and to be a self-contained organisation rather than a tool to reward political allies.

either way my hope for Pakistan cricket and the PCB remains minimal, even Imran when given the chance to devolve the PCB chose not to.
 
If Sethi does take over then hopefully he does not touch the domestic structure. Needs to boot Babar from captaincy and work on the pitches. Should also look to disband the PJL which is nothing but a money waste.
 
Saj said:
Clock is ticking it seems.

Maybe that's why so many statements from him.
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Rameez reminds me little bit of Gareth Southgate.
End product is
0 trophies in grand scheme of things.
Lost 2 world cups + icc WTC exit + twin home test series losses.
 
Chip32 said:
If Sethi does take over then hopefully he does not touch the domestic structure. Needs to boot Babar from captaincy and work on the pitches. Should also look to disband the PJL which is nothing but a money waste.
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The PCB has found a company with which it has signed an agreement to sponsor the PJL. Not really a money waste in that case
 
Chip32 said:
If Sethi does take over then hopefully he does not touch the domestic structure. Needs to boot Babar from captaincy and work on the pitches. Should also look to disband the PJL which is nothing but a money waste.
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The domestic structure and the politics involved is a joke
 
Rana said:
The domestic structure and the politics involved is a joke
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The domestic structure has started to come right and anyone that thinks that some random bank playing the electricity board is a good way to develop FC cricket knows as much about cricket as some guy thinking that Asif Ali should be our captain
 
msb314 said:
Reaching Asia Cup / WorldT20 final and hosting Australia / England in Pakistan
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We reachd thoe finals inspoite of RR and his support staff not because of. How can hosting Aus and Eng count for him?

On field results have been poor, the cricket abysmal and we play like 80s. On top of that he is constantly hogging limelight. But the biggest issue of all, he has not found a proper support structure for babar and instead subjected our team to his outdated 'vision'. You can add acting like literal henchman ok im the dim in enacting im the dim's version of domestic structure.
 
Bewal Express said:
The domestic structure has started to come right and anyone that thinks that some random bank playing the electricity board is a good way to develop FC cricket knows as much about cricket as some guy thinking that Asif Ali should be our captain
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The domestic system is a flop. Just like the leader who implemented it I’m afraid
 
Rana said:
The domestic system is a flop. Just like the leader who implemented it I’m afraid
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Domestic systems don’t come good in two minutes. They take years to see the results. Bringing back departmental cricket will be a disaster. If you want to see ptv Vs PIA, with the squads filled with journeyman has beens that make Rizwan look like Harry Brook, then change the domestic system. This year we’ll finally seen a system with youngsters in most teams. Change the system and Pakistan cricket will truly be in the dark ages.

Also on Rameez, his tenure may be debatable, but it’s incredibly frustrating that he can’t see out his term. How can any cricketing country have any success when its underlying administration changes every two minutes?!?!
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Domestic systems don’t come good in two minutes. They take years to see the results. Bringing back departmental cricket will be a disaster. If you want to see ptv Vs PIA, with the squads filled with journeyman has beens that make Rizwan look like Harry Brook, then change the domestic system. This year we’ll finally seen a system with youngsters in most teams. Change the system and Pakistan cricket will truly be in the dark ages.

Also on Rameez, his tenure may be debatable, but it’s incredibly frustrating that he can’t see out his term. How can any cricketing country have any success when its underlying administration changes every two minutes?!?!
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The current FC structure and it’s many flaws is a discussion for a separate thread. As of now, it will make absolutely no difference to Pakistan’s performances home and away if the old departmental cricket system is brought back but with a better selection criteria/system.
 
KingOfPakBreakfast said:
Domestic systems don’t come good in two minutes. They take years to see the results. Bringing back departmental cricket will be a disaster. If you want to see ptv Vs PIA, with the squads filled with journeyman has beens that make Rizwan look like Harry Brook, then change the domestic system. This year we’ll finally seen a system with youngsters in most teams. Change the system and Pakistan cricket will truly be in the dark ages.

Also on Rameez, his tenure may be debatable, but it’s incredibly frustrating that he can’t see out his term. How can any cricketing country have any success when its underlying administration changes every two minutes?!?!
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Brother your trying to convince a guy that wanted Asif Ali as kaptaan and a guy that doesn't understand why domestic SR are higher than international SRs. Such is the level of our friends understand that if he says its bad, do it without hesitation because its bound to be right
 
Pretty sure Pakistan only lost two Tests in its history against England at home under the departmental fc system

We lost two straight away to England under the new one.
 
Rana said:
Pretty sure Pakistan only lost two Tests in its history against England at home under the departmental fc system

We lost two straight away to England under the new one.
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So you want PIA to play Hussains Motors to develop your cricketers. Brilliant
 
Pakistan current domestic structure is way better than anything done in the past. Those huge amount of teams simply diluted the talent and Pakistan seemed to struggle identifying its upcoming talent. Doesn't seem to be as much of an issue anymore with some emerging players getting central contracts and of course PSL has helped with this issue as well.

The domestic matches nowadays are actually watchable too instead of having squads full of old no name chachaa's. I also think it's crazy for people to think a domestic change so recently immediately see results for the International team. Under the old system, where were guys like Fakhar/Shadab/Hasan before their PSL showing? Either way, Pakistan issues lie deeper than the domestic system, it extends to their grassroots with U16, U13 etc.. and what those kids are being taught. It's hard to know the level of quality coaching they are getting there.
 
muqarrab said:
Could you highlight his good work that went into good job he has done so far?
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Sure,

1. Continuing with best available person for CS role in Mohammad Wasim and sticking by him despite senseless criticism thus ensuring the removal of non performing seniors.

2. Assigning complete responsibility to captain with coaching staff only there to guide and mentor. Saqlain is perfect in that role.

3. Assigning batting coach position to M Yousaf despite personal differences in past.

4. Drastic improvement in LOI results,
- 2021 T20 WC semifinal (Group toppers and defeating India for the first time in WCs)
- 2022 Asia Cup final
- 2022 T20 WC final
- Currently, we are sitting on 8 match winning streak in ODIs !

5. Better marketing by PCB on social media.

6. Engagement with private sector and bringing them in as sponsors such as Engro, National Bank etc.

7. Hosting Australia and England.

8. Initiating PJL.

Apart from poor pitches for home tests, there isn't much to criticize about Ramiz's tenure.
 
Sarwar89 said:
Rameez reminds me little bit of Gareth Southgate.
End product is
0 trophies in grand scheme of things.
Lost 2 world cups + icc WTC exit + twin home test series losses.
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That is an insult to Southgate who has made a boring England into an exciting England.
 
Greenstorm said:
Sure,

1. Continuing with best available person for CS role in Mohammad Wasim and sticking by him despite senseless criticism thus ensuring the removal of non performing seniors.

2. Assigning complete responsibility to captain with coaching staff only there to guide and mentor. Saqlain is perfect in that role.

3. Assigning batting coach position to M Yousaf despite personal differences in past.

4. Drastic improvement in LOI results,
- 2021 T20 WC semifinal (Group toppers and defeating India for the first time in WCs)
- 2022 Asia Cup final
- 2022 T20 WC final
- Currently, we are sitting on 8 match winning streak in ODIs !

5. Better marketing by PCB on social media.

6. Engagement with private sector and bringing them in as sponsors such as Engro, National Bank etc.

7. Hosting Australia and England.

8. Initiating PJL.

Apart from poor pitches for home tests, there isn't much to criticize about Ramiz's tenure.
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1. M Wasim has been a disaster, he drops more and selects less, we debuted 4 players in 1st test of this seris, and 2 more in the next to. That can't be good selection.

2. This is his biggest sin, its out dated and senseless, we have been making the same mistakes and the buck stops at the guy hiring and firing the support staff and that is rambo.

3. By this yarsdstick, lets bring back the guy under who we won 2017 CT and got test mace in 2016.
5. How? Where is the marketing money going? Why have the 192 players not seen their paycheck yet?

6. Sponsore for a post rameez created himself for hayden? To what end? This is pointless.

7. These tours were long planned, and Rameez's recent statements belong to republics tv, not chairman pcb.

8. PJL is a vanity project that is utterly pointless and will be scrapped and forgotten soon.

RR has been a disaster thru and thru. He cannot keep quiet, cannot avoid cameras and can't stop poking his nose in matters that don't concern hi,/ He needs to be fired asap.
 
I think Sethi or whoever it could be has to be nominated.

Then the process starts.
 
muqarrab said:
1. M Wasim has been a disaster, he drops more and selects less, we debuted 4 players in 1st test of this seris, and 2 more in the next to. That can't be good selection.

2. This is his biggest sin, its out dated and senseless, we have been making the same mistakes and the buck stops at the guy hiring and firing the support staff and that is rambo.

3. By this yarsdstick, lets bring back the guy under who we won 2017 CT and got test mace in 2016.
5. How? Where is the marketing money going? Why have the 192 players not seen their paycheck yet?

6. Sponsore for a post rameez created himself for hayden? To what end? This is pointless.

7. These tours were long planned, and Rameez's recent statements belong to republics tv, not chairman pcb.

8. PJL is a vanity project that is utterly pointless and will be scrapped and forgotten soon.

RR has been a disaster thru and thru. He cannot keep quiet, cannot avoid cameras and can't stop poking his nose in matters that don't concern hi,/ He needs to be fired asap.
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Name me a better chairman PCB in last 15 years and I can find numerous such flaws in his policies too.

RR will be remembered at least as an honest trier who made our team watchable again and brought casual fans back into fold.
 
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Greenstorm said:
PP 'experts' are only good at complaining. Name me a better chairman PCB in last 15 years and I can find numerous such flaws in his policies too.

RR will be remembered at least as an honest trier who made our team watchable again and brought casual fans back into fold.
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He made our team watachable again? How? Our cricket is dull. we pla tests with RR that is right ay home in 80s, we play T20s like we played ODi's in 90s. And then he goes on sky sorts says he wants babar to pick t20 players for tests, did he even watch pakistan team play in between his twitter jibes and photo op withs with saqlain and hayden?

Zaka ashraf, Najam sethi did an ok job, much better than this guy. Wasim Khan did ok but his hands were tied by being given the charter to implement Ik's stupid FC system.

Rameez has been a disaster.
 
Greenstorm said:
PP 'experts' are only good at complaining. Name me a better chairman PCB in last 15 years and I can find numerous such flaws in his policies too.

RR will be remembered at least as an honest trier who made our team watchable again and brought casual fans back into fold.
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What casual fans? The ones who fawn over Shadab and Rauf for their looks?
 
I saw my team finally defeat India in a world cup, that too by 10 wickets !

I saw our fast bowlers ripping apart opposition top orders in tournaments, bowling at extreme pace.

I saw my team in a WC final, that too in Australia where no one would have given us a chance.

I saw my team playing as a single unit devoid of any toxic egos.

Thank you Ramiz ! Soon you will be back inshAllah.
 
muqarrab said:
He made our team watachable again? How? Our cricket is dull. we pla tests with RR that is right ay home in 80s, we play T20s like we played ODi's in 90s. And then he goes on sky sorts says he wants babar to pick t20 players for tests, did he even watch pakistan team play in between his twitter jibes and photo op withs with saqlain and hayden?

Zaka ashraf, Najam sethi did an ok job, much better than this guy. Wasim Khan did ok but his hands were tied by being given the charter to implement Ik's stupid FC system.

Rameez has been a disaster.
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The problems you mentioned were there even before Ramiz took over.

And lol at 'IK's stupid FC system'. I guess thats my cue to stop wasting time here.
 
Greenstorm said:
The problems you mentioned were there even before Ramiz took over.

And lol at 'IK's stupid FC system'. I guess thats my cue to stop wasting time here.
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So RR ddn't fix anything right?

Isn't this the FC system IK has been propounding eer since he played a season in australia?
 
muqarrab said:
So RR ddn't fix anything right?

Isn't this the FC system IK has been propounding eer since he played a season in australia?
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So you expect to fix problems of a FC system in 3 years. And can you name the players that came through the new system?
 
muqarrab said:
He made our team watachable again? How? Our cricket is dull. we pla tests with RR that is right ay home in 80s, we play T20s like we played ODi's in 90s. And then he goes on sky sorts says he wants babar to pick t20 players for tests, did he even watch pakistan team play in between his twitter jibes and photo op withs with saqlain and hayden?

Zaka ashraf, Najam sethi did an ok job, much better than this guy. Wasim Khan did ok but his hands were tied by being given the charter to implement Ik's stupid FC system.

Rameez has been a disaster.
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What is stupid about the FC system?
 
Bewal Express said:
No the ones that think Asif Ali should be captain because he hit some 6s
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Well. I am English and I have the same mindset as the current English team

Asif Ali is the right player to be our T20 captain

I stick by my claim. Please don’t harrass me for it. I don’t live on Avonsfield
 
muqarrab said:
1. M Wasim has been a disaster, he drops more and selects less, we debuted 4 players in 1st test of this seris, and 2 more in the next to. That can't be good selection.

2. This is his biggest sin, its out dated and senseless, we have been making the same mistakes and the buck stops at the guy hiring and firing the support staff and that is rambo.

3. By this yarsdstick, lets bring back the guy under who we won 2017 CT and got test mace in 2016.
5. How? Where is the marketing money going? Why have the 192 players not seen their paycheck yet?

6. Sponsore for a post rameez created himself for hayden? To what end? This is pointless.

7. These tours were long planned, and Rameez's recent statements belong to republics tv, not chairman pcb.

8. PJL is a vanity project that is utterly pointless and will be scrapped and forgotten soon.

RR has been a disaster thru and thru. He cannot keep quiet, cannot avoid cameras and can't stop poking his nose in matters that don't concern hi,/ He needs to be fired asap.
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These tours were long planned but they never happened. RR made them happen. My issue is the negativety of the cricket in tests. In ODI and T20 we have done amazingly well. Reaching the final and SF are great achievements with the limit3d batting we have.
 
Rana said:
Well. I am English and I have the same mindset as the current English team

Asif Ali is the right player to be our T20 captain

I stick by my claim. Please don’t harrass me for it. I don’t live on Avonsfield
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Lol Asif Ali can only captain gully muhalla team 😂😂
 
Rana said:
Well. I am English and I have the same mindset as the current English team

Asif Ali is the right player to be our T20 captain

I stick by my claim. Please don’t harrass me for it. I don’t live on Avonsfield
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At least you have the solution to our problems with Banks playing the local Farm and Asif Ali as captain
 
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