Report: 2024 T20 World Cup & 2025 Champions Trophy Could See Change of Venues

[Major]

The 2024 T20 World Cup, initially planned for West Indies and USA, and the 50-over 2025 Champions Trophy set to take place in Pakistan, might undergo changes according to reports.

Instead of the T20 World Cup, West Indies and USA could potentially host the Champions Trophy, while the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) may receive monetary compensation for the switch.

According to News18, the International Cricket Council (ICC) is considering shifting the 2025 tournament from Pakistan to the Caribbean, while the 2024 T20 World Cup would be moved to Scotland and Ireland. Howevlikely three-way barter of International Cricket Council (ICC) events between 2024 and 2025 is on the cards. Word coming out of the ICC corridors is that in return for letting go of the 2024 T20 World Cup in the West Indies and the United States, these co-hosts could be compensated with another event of similar stature at a later stage.

The 2025 ICC Champions Trophy in Pakistan could turn out to be the event that goes to the West Indies and the United States as compensation for letting go of the 2024 T20 World Cup and in return, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) may get compensated monetarily for the loss.

It is understood that right now this is merely a subject of verbal discussion between the respective cricket boards, the ICC and other stakeholders. It is also learnt that the broadcasters for the next ICC media rights cycle are in agreement with the proposed idea.

As News18 CricketNext had reported last week, England, the original hosts of the 2030 T20 World Cup along with Scotland and Ireland, emerged favourites to host the 2024 T20 World Cup – if shifted out of the West Indies & USA and allotted to them – for the simple reason that the United Kingdom is most suited to pull off a cricket tournament in the month of June, the month in which the event has been slotted.

Lesser financial risk

Further now, the global cricketing body is also exploring an arrangement where West Indies & USA could host the 2025 Champions Trophy – proposed to be moved out of Pakistan – which is a smaller event, puts the broadcaster at lesser financial risk and will require lesser infrastructure to get going.

“The current infrastructure situation in the USA is not very encouraging. Even if they successfully host the upcoming Major League Cricket, hosting an event like the T20 World Cup is a different ball game altogether. Where will you host the matches when the venues aren’t ready? Also, a long tournament in the far west could be a loss-making proposition for the broadcasters in the sub-continent, where the returns are highest,” says a source tracking developments from close quarters.

The 2007 50-over World Cup in the Caribbean, for the record, had proved to be a financial disaster given prime-time watching hours and India’s early exit from the tournament had only made things worse. Almost 16 years later, with business valuations getting that much steeper, the broadcaster of an ICC event will want the tournament to cater to Indian prime time as much as possible.

“The four-year rights for the India market alone were sold at US$3b. That’s way too much money to not get your priorities right,” say those in the know.

Smaller events, better rewards

Asking the West Indies and USA to host the 2025 Champions Trophy will give the US an additional year to put the necessary infrastructure in place. Further, having fewer matches – as compared to a T20 World Cup – will make the tournament logistically a more viable option too.

A case in point here is the 2017 Champions Trophy in England which was played only between three venues – Birmingham, The Oval and Cardiff.

What’s in it for PCB?

The Big Question is - will the PCB agree?

Sources say it is in this regard that ICC chairman Greg Barclay and CEO Geoff Allardice made a trip to Pakistan last week. The trip, officially, is being referred to as part of customary visits by ICC office-bearers to its full member nations. Pakistan, for the record, hasn’t hosted a major ICC event since the 1996 World Cup.

None of the countries that are scheduled to host these events has signed the “hosting agreements” yet, a process that could be initiated in July when the ICC members meet at the annual conference in Durban. The ICC could request PCB to agree to the swap by allowing them to monetarily benefit from the arrangement.er, these discussions are in their early stages and have only been conducted verbally. The broadcasters for the next ICC media rights are also in agreement with this proposal, and if things progress smoothly, the changes may be implemented.

The proposed change is primarily driven by the scheduling constraints faced by the United Kingdom, which can only host events in the May-June window. As the original schedule for the 2024 tournament aligns with this time frame, Ireland and Scotland have been considered as alternative hosts for the T20 World Cup.

Shifting the Champions Trophy to West Indies and the USA offers the United States an additional year to develop the necessary infrastructure for hosting the tournament. Moreover, since the Champions Trophy features fewer matches compared to the T20 World Cup, it is seen as a more logistically viable option for the West Indies and the USA.

It has been noted that the current infrastructure situation in the USA is not very encouraging, and hosting an event like the T20 World Cup would pose significant challenges. The lack of ready venues and the potential financial losses for broadcasters in the sub-continent, where returns are typically high, are some of the concerns raised.

“The current infrastructure situation in the USA is not very encouraging. Even if they successfully host the upcoming Major League Cricket, hosting an event like the T20 World Cup is a different ball game altogether. Where will you host the matches when the venues aren’t ready? Also, a long tournament in the far west could be a loss-making proposition for the broadcasters in the sub-continent, where the returns are highest,” says a source reported by News18.

The report further added that none of the countries involved in the hosting arrangements have signed the official "hosting agreements" yet. The process for initiating these agreements could begin in July during the ICC annual conference in Durban. The ICC may request the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to agree to the swap, potentially compensating them monetarily for the change.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...d-see-change-of-venues-exclusive-8035303.html

 

[Major]

Chalo jee, Asia Cup fiasco didnt end and now we have this......

ICC came up with a simple and stupid solution, just take away the rights from Pakistan altogether.

ICC is a joke.

 

[shah9425]

Shameless ICC

 

[Osama Shafeeqe]

Najam Sethi, the man, the myth, the legend. Man has single handedly destroying PCB and any international relationships we were nurturing. The reality is, BCCI has vendetta against Pakistan and Pakistanis and thus do not like PCB, will never support them and would never support anything PCB benefits from.

They are the masters of this new world cricket order and the rest have to fall in line. Najam Sethi needed to fall in line and he didn't, instead he made hollow threats and now we are seeing the consequences of angering our Indian overlords.

 

[MenInG]

But good news...

The 2025 ICC Champions Trophy in Pakistan could turn out to be the event that goes to the West Indies and the United States as compensation for letting go of the 2024 T20 World Cup and in return, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) may get compensated monetarily for the loss.

NOT!

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Let’s be real, Pakistan isn’t ready to host an ICC tournament.

You can’t host an entire tournament in just two cities (Lahore and Karachi).

Pindi stadium doesn’t even have seats for fans, imagine showing the rest of the world how you get fans to sit on concrete blocks or shadi chairs.

Also, you’re going to need a lot of security to take care of 8 teams. It’ll be an inconvenience to the locals who live nearby the stadium. Imagine having to use presidential security each time a team goes from hotel to stadium for training.

 

[Kianig89]

This happens when you mess with someone bigger your size, PCB shifted to it's place unfortunately they have no allies to turn it around

 

[imshally81]

But why? What is the reason..?

 

[shah_1]

BCCI is the boss of cricket. I think we Pakistanis understand a lot better seeing our establishment dominate Pakistan. Might is right

 

[sam_ahm]

This is what I was saying all along. PCB don't have that kind of standing or power to take on the BCCI. Sethi is a disaster. He will singlehandedly destroy Pak cricket.

 

[Rana]

Ah great

Let’s all bash Sethi for this because it makes PDM look bad

 

[Giroux28]

Why not swap it with one of the ICC events being hosted by India? Don't they have like 4 major events till 2031?

 

[MenInG]

Ah great

Let’s all bash Sethi for this because it makes PDM look bad

No lets bash anyone who makes Pakistan look bad.

Not sure why you are thinking like that? I thought you wanted the best for Pakistan. Is this the best for Pakistan? If so, Sethi has nothing to worry about.

 

[Thanos]

Well, it was bound to happen. Good that ICC not waiting till 2025 to do this at last moment like ACC.

Feel sorry for Pakistan fans though.

 

[Shafi]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], Here is the proof BCCI is conspiring against us. But you still come up with something to defend BCCI.

 

[Shafi]

This is what I was saying all along. PCB don't have that kind of standing or power to take on the BCCI. Sethi is a disaster. He will singlehandedly destroy Pak cricket.

By giving all your authorities we will be same like of Nepal,Hong Kong and eventually loose test/ODI by the power of BCCI.

 

[Shafi]

BCCI is the boss of cricket. I think we Pakistanis understand a lot better seeing our establishment dominate Pakistan. Might is right

True!!!! But once you submissive you have no say in future and will be treated like associate teams.

 

[Thanos]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], Here is the proof BCCI is conspiring against us. But you still come up with something to defend BCCI.

One can say ICC is securing its interest and taking decision proactively by looking at whole Asia cup mess.
Can't blame anyone. BCCI was always clear with its decision of not traveling to Pakistan.
Best option for Pakistan was to host Asia cup at neutral venue.
Better to host somewhere than nowhere.
Now I think CT25 train has also left Pak station.

 

[shah9425]

If this happens PCB should boycott ICC events

 

[U$ofA]

If this happens PCB should boycott ICC events

But the big question is, will they?

 

[sam_ahm]

If this happens PCB should boycott ICC events

If you have to boycott everything then PCB might as well move out of the ICC membership and play PSL all year long!

 

[hitthestump]

But why? What is the reason..?

It's obvious now that India won't travel to Pakistan and ICC can't afford not to have them present under any circumstances.

That means any rights the PCB think they have will naturally be on the chopping block.

Sethi has done a fantastic job in souring relations with everyone around us too. Not a single board cares about the health of Pakistan cricket, certainly not relative to what India can offer them anyway.

Essentially we're seeing the consequences of stupidity combined with messing with an enemy with significantly more power than we do. Bravo, Sethi.

 

[Giroux28]

Again the question is why does have to be Pakistan? They haven't hosted a major event in 27 years. They should rightfully host CT25.

ICC should ask BCCI to give up one of its events.

 

[hitthestump]

If this happens PCB should boycott ICC events

Lol. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Isn't this the approach that got us into this mess in the first place?

Oust Sethi, get someone else in their place and look to handle the situation properly going forward.

 

[Giroux28]

Lol. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Isn't this the approach that got us into this mess in the first place?

Oust Sethi, get someone else in their place and look to handle the situation properly going forward.

And what would have been the proper way of handling this situation?

 

[Usman Chadda]

And what would have been the proper way of handling this situation?

Beg and grovel

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Pcb should boycott this year wc in India

 

[msb314]

Lol. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Isn't this the approach that got us into this mess in the first place?

Oust Sethi, get someone else in their place and look to handle the situation properly going forward.

One can say ICC is securing its interest and taking decision proactively by looking at whole Asia cup mess.
Can't blame anyone. BCCI was always clear with its decision of not traveling to Pakistan.
Best option for Pakistan was to host Asia cup at neutral venue.
Better to host somewhere than nowhere.
Now I think CT25 train has also left Pak station.

This is what I was saying all along. PCB don't have that kind of standing or power to take on the BCCI. Sethi is a disaster. He will singlehandedly destroy Pak cricket.

This happens when you mess with someone bigger your size, PCB shifted to it's place unfortunately they have no allies to turn it around

BCCI is the boss of cricket. I think we Pakistanis understand a lot better seeing our establishment dominate Pakistan. Might is right

You guys still don”t get it..

What has cozying up to the BCCI ever done for us?

- We toured India in 2012 / 13
- We signed the MOU in 2014 but got nothing when it mattered
- We agreed to play India at a neutral venue in 2015/16 but a series never materialized..
- Despite political tensions we came to India for the 2016 WorldT20
- Despite having full rights to host the 2023 Asia Cup - we agreed to a compromise by offering a hybrid model

You guys are right Najam Sethi hasn’t gotten results - because we are compromising too much and too lenient / soft:

I’ll make it simple here: IF BCCI does not accept hybrid model and 2025 CT is shifted out of Pakistan then:

- Pull out of Asia Cup and ACC
- Pull out of 2023 WC
- Pull out of 2025 CT (wherever it is hosted)
- Play PSL for 9 months with some bilaterals in between

Thank you

 

[U$ofA]

You guys still don”t get it..

What has cozying up to the BCCI ever done for us?

- We toured India in 2012 / 13
- We signed the MOU in 2014 but got nothing when it mattered
- We agreed to play India at a neutral venue in 2015/16 but a series never materialized..
- Despite political tensions we came to India for the 2016 WorldT20
- Despite having full rights to host the 2023 Asia Cup - we agreed to a compromise by offering a hybrid model

You guys are right Najam Sethi hasn’t gotten results - because we are compromising too much and too lenient / soft:

I’ll make it simple here: IF BCCI does not accept hybrid model and 2025 CT is shifted out of Pakistan then:

- Pull out of Asia Cup and ACC
- Pull out of 2023 WC
- Pull out of 2025 CT (wherever it is hosted)
- Play PSL for 9 months with some bilaterals in between

Thank you

So essentially pull out of cricket. Because pulling out of couple of ICC events will have repercussions.

Do you think ICC will sanction PCB? If so, will other boards be allowed to play bilaterals with PCB? If not, will the other boards give NOC to its players to play in PSL? If not, how marketable will the PSL be?

 

[Barragan]

Pak just need to pull out of the Asia cup.

Regards to the champions trophy, partake only if the compensation is satisfactory.

Simple as that.

 

[Kianig89]

You guys still don”t get it..

What has cozying up to the BCCI ever done for us?

- We toured India in 2012 / 13
- We signed the MOU in 2014 but got nothing when it mattered
- We agreed to play India at a neutral venue in 2015/16 but a series never materialized..
- Despite political tensions we came to India for the 2016 WorldT20
- Despite having full rights to host the 2023 Asia Cup - we agreed to a compromise by offering a hybrid model

You guys are right Najam Sethi hasn’t gotten results - because we are compromising too much and too lenient / soft:

I’ll make it simple here: IF BCCI does not accept hybrid model and 2025 CT is shifted out of Pakistan then:

- Pull out of Asia Cup and ACC
- Pull out of 2023 WC
- Pull out of 2025 CT (wherever it is hosted)
- Play PSL for 9 months with some bilaterals in between

Thank you

It is a good plan on paper, but not in practical world we should come.out of denail and accept the reality , BCCI is the ultimate boss PcB must make amends with them

 

[Ozeirk]

Pak just need to pull out of the Asia cup.

Regards to the champions trophy, partake only if the compensation is satisfactory.

Simple as that.

Pakistan team will be mistreated by the Indian media as was the case in 2011. Along with Asia Cup It's best to skip out of the world Cup in India as well.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You guys still don”t get it..

What has cozying up to the BCCI ever done for us?

- We toured India in 2012 / 13
- We signed the MOU in 2014 but got nothing when it mattered
- We agreed to play India at a neutral venue in 2015/16 but a series never materialized..
- Despite political tensions we came to India for the 2016 WorldT20
- Despite having full rights to host the 2023 Asia Cup - we agreed to a compromise by offering a hybrid model

You guys are right Najam Sethi hasn’t gotten results - because we are compromising too much and too lenient / soft:

I’ll make it simple here: IF BCCI does not accept hybrid model and 2025 CT is shifted out of Pakistan then:

- Pull out of Asia Cup and ACC
- Pull out of 2023 WC
- Pull out of 2025 CT (wherever it is hosted)
- Play PSL for 9 months with some bilaterals in between

Thank you

Zaka Ashraf first claimed India is afraid to play Pakistan. Before that Ijaz butt had pulled pakistani players out of IPL. PCB desperately wanted a India tour. Therefore they toured in 2012-13 to some how convince india.

Pakistan and PCB were isolated at the ICC. The big 3 reforms already had required votes. BCCI gave PCB a facesaver.

PCB sued BCCI and lost.

As per Sethi, he forced the shifting of the 2018 Asia Cup out of India. So why is India wrong?

If you pull out of ACC and ICC events, why will they tour you or release their players for the PSL?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan team will be mistreated by the Indian media as was the case in 2011. Along with Asia Cup It's best to skip out of the world Cup in India as well.

How were they mistreated in 2011?

 

[U$ofA]

Pakistan team will be mistreated by the Indian media as was the case in 2011. Along with Asia Cup It's best to skip out of the world Cup in India as well.

If this is followed through, where will PCB get it's $$ from? Which in turn affects all domestic cricket at levels and all employees.

Easy to say when you are not responsible. The people at the PCB need the $$ to run things.

 

[MenInG]

If this is followed through, where will PCB get it's $$ from? Which in turn affects all domestic cricket at levels and all employees.

Easy to say when you are not responsible. The people at the PCB need the $$ to run things.

Well PCB could go the extortion route:

"The 2025 ICC Champions Trophy in Pakistan could turn out to be the event that goes to the West Indies and the United States as compensation for letting go of the 2024 T20 World Cup and in return, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) may get compensated monetarily for the loss."

 

[msb314]

So essentially pull out of cricket. Because pulling out of couple of ICC events will have repercussions.

Do you think ICC will sanction PCB? If so, will other boards be allowed to play bilaterals with PCB? If not, will the other boards give NOC to its players to play in PSL? If not, how marketable will the PSL be?

ICC cannot sanction is for pulling out of ICC events. The same way FiFA kicked out out Russia out of 2022 WC - any member can choose not to participate..

 

[msb314]

Zaka Ashraf first claimed India is afraid to play Pakistan. Before that Ijaz butt had pulled pakistani players out of IPL. PCB desperately wanted a India tour. Therefore they toured in 2012-13 to some how convince india.

Pakistan and PCB were isolated at the ICC. The big 3 reforms already had required votes. BCCI gave PCB a facesaver.

PCB sued BCCI and lost.

As per Sethi, he forced the shifting of the 2018 Asia Cup out of India. So why is India wrong?

If you pull out of ACC and ICC events, why will they tour you or release their players for the PSL?

If PCT toured India in 2012/13 - then India should do the same.

iPL is unrelated issue because there is no official ban on Pak players. However, our players are unlikely to be picked at the IPL auction..

Also any player can choose to participate in PSL - it is unrelated to if we participate in an ICC / ACC event.

 

[Mp812]

"There is absolutely no truth to reports that the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2024 will be moved from the West Indies and the USA," said an ECB spokesperson. "Since the event is organized by the ICC, their statement must be taken as binding and conclusive."

The 2024 Twenty20 World Cup, the ninth edition of the championship, will feature the largest ever congregation for an ICC event, with 20 teams and 55 matches. The ICC confirmed that preparations for the event are already underway, and venue inspections have been completed

 

[Mp812]

IPL is a business/money oriented "domestic" tournament where each franchise owner is allowed to select a limited number of non Indian players. In other words, these foreign players are nothing but pure financial investment. Their availability, reliability ,commitment, flight risk and their skillset to fit in role into team plans, plays a major role in deciding if they are picked or not to play in the franchise team.

Now when it comes to Pakistani players they are considered high risk of availability and their commitment has been always in doubt. Besides as PCB had shown in past, it tends to hold hostage the IPL, once they have any stake in IPL. They threaten to pull out at drop of a pin.

The franchise owners got their hands burned in 2009 IPL when both PCB/players tried to hold hostage the IPL under the delusion that without them IPL would collapse. Well it did not. Net result...franchise owners are reluctant to pick Pakistani players because they are flight risk and their commitment to play the whole tournament is perceived as dicey. There is no official ''Ban'' on Pakistani players in IPL, but the reputation( or ill repute) of being unreliable commodity is the main hurdle in them getting picked.

 

[The_Last_Samurai]

"There is absolutely no truth to reports that the ICC Men's T20 World Cup 2024 will be moved from the West Indies and the USA," said an ECB spokesperson. "Since the event is organized by the ICC, their statement must be taken as binding and conclusive."

The 2024 Twenty20 World Cup, the ninth edition of the championship, will feature the largest ever congregation for an ICC event, with 20 teams and 55 matches. The ICC confirmed that preparations for the event are already underway, and venue inspections have been completed

So CT 2025 would be hosted by ENGLAND coz INDIA wont go to PAKISTAN and any hybrid model is out of question as we have seen this with respect to ASIA CUP and ICC can't afford to have its tournament without INDIA...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION], Here is the proof BCCI is conspiring against us. But you still come up with something to defend BCCI.

There is no conspiracy. BCCI has been smashing Pakistan openly for over a decade. What is Pakistan going to do about it?

 

[shah9425]

It's been 27 years ago since we last hosted an icc tournament
Then we got robbed of 2008 champions trophy
Then a full decade of hom cricket in UAE
Now after successfully hosting all international teams except troublesome BCCI
They are again taking away hosting rights
Why we always have to face this?
If this is true then pull out of all ICC events
And play bilaterals and psl

 

[ahsan17]

I will probably be done with cricket if ICC pulls this antic on the behest of BCCI.

Move Indian games to a neutral territory and be done with that. Yes, BCCI doesn't want that, but this isn't supposed to be an ACC tournament.

 

[SportsWarrior]

If this happens PCB should pull out of all ICC tournaments to teach everyone a lesson /s

 

[cricketjoshila]

ICC cannot sanction is for pulling out of ICC events. The same way FiFA kicked out out Russia out of 2022 WC - any member can choose not to participate..

No you can't choose once you sign the members participation agreement.

Secondly ICC doesn't need to sanction you. Individual boards can refuse NoC to the players and bilaterals have to be negotiated with each board.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If PCT toured India in 2012/13 - then India should do the same.

iPL is unrelated issue because there is no official ban on Pak players. However, our players are unlikely to be picked at the IPL auction..

Also any player can choose to participate in PSL - it is unrelated to if we participate in an ICC / ACC event.

Any player needs NoC to play in any league. Their home board can deny NoC.

Pakistanis are not given work visa by the Indian government.

PCT toured because they were desperate to somehow start the bilaterals.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's been 27 years ago since we last hosted an icc tournament
Then we got robbed of 2008 champions trophy
Then a full decade of hom cricket in UAE
Now after successfully hosting all international teams except troublesome BCCI
They are again taking away hosting rights
Why we always have to face this?
If this is true then pull out of all ICC events
And play bilaterals and psl

Robbed of CT 2008? Pakistan's security situation was not conducive. So CT was delayed by a year to 2009. And then Lahore attack happened.

No one robbed pakistan. Pakistan showed its incapable to handle the situation.

 

[shah9425]

Robbed of CT 2008? Pakistan's security situation was not conducive. So CT was delayed by a year to 2009. And then Lahore attack happened.

No one robbed pakistan. Pakistan showed its incapable to handle the situation.

2008 was all pretty good in security

 

[shah9425]

If this happens PCB should pull out of all ICC tournaments to teach everyone a lesson /s

Yeah they should it's too much now for how long this will continue to happen?

 

[zoeyfactor]

If ICC is proposing CT2025 as a "swap" to PCB, then they should guarantee a future ICC event in Pakistan then correct?

 

[cricketjoshila]

2008 was all pretty good in security

No.

5 countries refused to send teams to Pakistan.

South Africa had on Saturday pulled out of the tournament, which was originally scheduled to be held from Sept 12-28 in Karachi and Lahore, and the ICC was informed on Sunday that Australia, England, New Zealand and West Indies, too, would not be participating.

www.espncricinfo.com/story/champions-trophy-postponed-until-october-2009-366099

India was the only board that supported Pakistan at that meeting in August 2008.

But Pakistan's pulling out players from IPL 2009 changed everything. Then Lahore happened and CT was shifted.

 

[shah9425]

If ICC is proposing CT2025 as a "swap" to PCB, then they should guarantee a future ICC event in Pakistan then correct?

Just another lollipop which they are giving to us since last 27 years

 

[SportsWarrior]

No plan to shift 2024 Men's T20 WC from WI, US: ICC


The International Cricket Council (ICC) and England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB) have stated that there is no consideration to relocate next year's T20 WC from the Caribbean islands and the United States to the United Kingdom. Both cricket bodies made these assertions separately on Friday in response to suggestions that the championship would be allocated to England, Ireland, and Scotland due to administrative uncertainty in the USA Cricket (USAC).
"There is absolutely no truth to reports that the ICC Men's T20 WC 2024 will be moved from the West Indies and the USA," said an ECB spokesperson. "Since the event is organized by the ICC, their statement must be taken as binding and conclusive."
The 2024 T20 WC, the ninth edition of the championship, will feature the largest ever congregation for an ICC event, with 20 teams and 55 matches. The ICC confirmed that preparations for the event are already underway, and venue inspections have been completed.

"Venue inspections have recently been concluded in both host territories, and planning for the event in June 2024 is in full swing," said the ICC spokesperson.
An ICC member dismissed these suggestions as creative speculation. "The 2024 event is scheduled for June, and the only other possible location is England. If someone were to ask the ECB if they can host in 2024, the answer would be crystal clear - they can't. So, the possibility doesn't even arise. Just a glance at the England venue fixtures for next year will confirm this to anyone observant enough," stated the member.
Reports have indicated a potential trade-off between the 2024 and 2030 championship hosts, with England, Ireland, and Scotland staging the next year's event and the West Indies/US hosting seven years later, allowing the USAC to address its administrative issues.
Florida, Dallas, and one more venue are being considered for hosting the championship matches in the US, with minimal administrative involvement for USAC. US, ICC insiders say some innovative solutions are being planned for staging the championship in the US with regard to venues.

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...20-wc-from-wi-and-the-us-says-icc-cricbuzzcom

May be speculation is only about CT 2025?

 

[nextover666666]

Robbed of CT 2008? Pakistan's security situation was not conducive. So CT was delayed by a year to 2009. And then Lahore attack happened.

No one robbed pakistan. Pakistan showed its incapable to handle the situation.

India was behind all this, so yes Pakistan were robbed.

 

[Bilal Ahmad15]

Cricket complete joke of a sport. Its sad that its the only sport Pakistan is great in.

 

[RajBan]

Issues with BCCI aside , PCB need to look at the reality which is their lack of capacity and infrastructure to organize big tournaments. If they have to limit the matches to few venues with presidential security then that simply means things are not normal in terms of safe and secure travel, there is lack of infrastructure across the country and lack of commercial viability to host such matches other than Karachi, Pindi and Lahore. BCCI is no saint and sure they are pulling strings when needed but it's very clear that it's a convenient distraction for Pakistan to avoid questions on core issues such as lack of investment in cricketing infrastructure, administrative failure to maintain security and commercial failure to generate revenue beyond their top 2-3 urban centres.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

I don't think Pakistan is fit to host any mega event due to infrastructure and security issues. Better to avoid it and be happy with bilateral series for now. PCB needs to upgrade the stadiums and country needs to focus in real issues rather than just looting the country to core.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India was behind all this, so yes Pakistan were robbed.

Another frustrated lie.

 

[Ryw]

Told you guys in other thread

"When Jay Shah speaks, everyone listens"

These are the consequences if you mess with others with your fake attitude and ego, Pak is in no position to accomodate two teams at a time let alone A Cup or C trophy
ICC took a safest option, Jay Shah is invesmenting so much money so obviously he will need an assurance from ICC about how to avoid possible losses and ICC will not risk it.

 

[nextover666666]

Another frustrated lie.

Not lies.

 

[Khan_123]

Cricket complete joke of a sport. Its sad that its the only sport Pakistan is great in.

We used to be great in hockey and squash. Dominated both sports but unfortunately not anymore. In the 90s we were champions in cricket , hockey & squash at the same time.

 

[Seam Specialist]

A Summary of Events that have led to this situation today:

ACC headed by Jay Shah in 2021: ACC will give Pakistan the rights to hold the Asia Cup in Pakistan for the 2023 edition and it has been unanimously accepted by all boards.

Indian fans: wow can't wait for surgical strike 2.0/ we will beat them in their own nation.

Jay Shah in 2022 without any ACC discussion: India will not travel to Pakistan. This is not an ICC tournament and we do not have any obligation to play in Pakistan if it's not an ICC tournament even though we were the ones that gave the rights to PCB to host in the first place.

Indian fans: Yeah, it's not an ICC tournament it's only Asia Cup. If it was ICC tournament we would then have visited.

PCB: This is greatly unprofessional behaviour by the BCCI (Jay Shah) and not good business practices by them. We won't be silently giving away our rights to host as then you will refuse to come in 2025 for Champions Trophy on this precedent. If hosting rights are taken away then we also not visit India for the World Cup.

ICC: Please PCB, don't boycott or ask for hybrid model for the world cup! We will convince BCCI for a hybrid model for Asia Cup and also we cannot guarantee that BCCI won't tour in 2025 Champions trophy and we might be taking hosting rights from you. Take this higher share in ICC founding instead, it will put you fourth behind the big 3 in terms of funding.

PCB: This is incredibly unethical and unprofessional behaviour from the BCCI considering how much they profit from our participation on the World Cup. We accept this but we will be making it very difficult for the BCCI because of their unprofessionalism.

Indians fans including Harsha Bhogle: Why is PCB making it so difficult and demanding so much? They were always going to tour anyway, we all knew. Pakistan being being difficult and unprofessional like always...

 

[Bhaijaan]

There is an obvious politicoeconomic gap between India and Pakistan overall. In Cricket, this gap is wider because here there is no China, US to veto India out.

PCB’s politically motivated leaders and the PCT fans just don’t realise there is no place for emotions in business. In business you play your cards as they are served, you fall in line like everyone when you have to. BCCI has allowed Pakistan a respectable seat on the table many times but PCB has time and again acted way out of its status and they along with their cricketers and fans continue to pay for it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

A Summary of Events that have led to this situation today:

ACC headed by Jay Shah in 2021: ACC will give Pakistan the rights to hold the Asia Cup in Pakistan for the 2023 edition and it has been unanimously accepted by all boards.

Indian fans: wow can't wait for surgical strike 2.0/ we will beat them in their own nation.

Jay Shah in 2022 without any ACC discussion: India will not travel to Pakistan. This is not an ICC tournament and we do not have any obligation to play in Pakistan if it's not an ICC tournament even though we were the ones that gave the rights to PCB to host in the first place.

Indian fans: Yeah, it's not an ICC tournament it's only Asia Cup. If it was ICC tournament we would then have visited.

PCB: This is greatly unprofessional behaviour by the BCCI (Jay Shah) and not good business practices by them. We won't be silently giving away our rights to host as then you will refuse to come in 2025 for Champions Trophy on this precedent. If hosting rights are taken away then we also not visit India for the World Cup.

ICC: Please PCB, don't boycott or ask for hybrid model for the world cup! We will convince BCCI for a hybrid model for Asia Cup and also we cannot guarantee that BCCI won't tour in 2025 Champions trophy and we might be taking hosting rights from you. Take this higher share in ICC founding instead, it will put you fourth behind the big 3 in terms of funding.

PCB: This is incredibly unethical and unprofessional behaviour from the BCCI considering how much they profit from our participation on the World Cup. We accept this but we will be making it very difficult for the BCCI because of their unprofessionalism.

Indians fans including Harsha Bhogle: Why is PCB making it so difficult and demanding so much? They were always going to tour anyway, we all knew. Pakistan being being difficult and unprofessional like always...

Pakistan was awarded the 2020 Asia cup rights. And Nazmul Hussain was the ACC president then.

The pandemic caused a lot of rescheduling, and SL hosted the 2022 asia cup in UAE.

So your first point is immaterial.

India has no obligation to visit pakistan for anything. FYI, BCCI hasnt signed the members participation agreement with ICC yet. ICC is yet to sign the hosting agreement with PCB. So India has no obligation to visit pakistan.

There goes your second point.

Fans don't decide if Indian team will visit pakistan. Its a government decision and right now there are no indications that the government will allow such a visit.

Jay Shah as the secretary of BCCI has every right to announce if the Indian team will travel to Pakistan or not. He doesn't need ACC's permission.

ICC has little influence over BCCI or the Indian government to convince them of anything. PCB was number 4 in revenue share during the last cycle as well. Nothing new.

BCCI doesn't need Pakistan to make money. IPL alone makes more money than the ICC and all its members put together.

Pakistan isn't a great revenue generating territory. As per latest rights sale figures out of the 3.2 USD that ICC will make in tv rights 3bn comes from Indian territory. 130mn from UK and 60mn from Australia.

Rest of countries combined will make up the bottom 5 percent of the revenue. So you can guess how is pakistan's contribution.

PCB depends on ICC revenue share for 50 percent of its budget. Its in no position to boycott anything. I seriously hoped they would finally walk the talk and boycott. They didn't.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

There is no chance of Champions Trophy happening in Pakistan with India visiting. The tournament needs to be either moved out of Pakistan or can go ahead without India.

 

[aukhan]

Nothing shocking here. Who in their right mind was expecting Pakistan to host an ICC event? I always knew it would be moved to somewhere else. Pakistan is not a safe country not even for Pakistanis. I live in Pakistan and i don't think Pakistan can provide security to international teams or host a major international event with multiple teams participating.

Only the delusional overseas Pakistanis who are unaware of the country's security situation and ground realities can think an international event of such magnitude is possible.

 

[ArabKnight]

Just cancel all ICC tournaments.

Every body play their own PSL, IPL, BPL, CPL, BBL.

 

[Kriketer]

There is an obvious politicoeconomic gap between India and Pakistan overall. In Cricket, this gap is wider because here there is no China, US to veto India out.

PCB’s politically motivated leaders and the PCT fans just don’t realise there is no place for emotions in business. In business you play your cards as they are served, you fall in line like everyone when you have to. BCCI has allowed Pakistan a respectable seat on the table many times but PCB has time and again acted way out of its status and they along with their cricketers and fans continue to pay for it.

That's some next level dada-giri. You play dirty politics and then you call Pakistan politically motivated? When Pakistan has safely hosted numerous teams over the past several years, it is up to India to decide whether to be there or not, but we all know India won't be able to digest Pakistan hosting a major tournament with or without them, so it is India's politically motivated stance, not Pakistan's.

As for the current PCB yes it is a joke because it is based on the likings of stooges in PDM, won't argue with you there as PCB is functioning just like the incompetent corrupt party that brought it's people in, party which has driven every sector of Pakistan on free fall. This is the reason why current PCB has no backbone to make a hard stance, atleast under Ramiz PCB had shame and took a stance. Agreed that PCB must be an independent body which unfortunately isnt the case in Pakistan. Regardless that has no bearing on Pakistan being able to host a tournament in a 2 years time as for several years now Pakistan has hosted many international teams successfully.

Keep dirty politics off sports, this is not a parliament of people in loongi and dhooti in Delhi, it's a sport where immaturity and childish behaviours shouldn't be supported

 

[zn426]

This is why I argued back when this news came out where Jay Shah started claiming Asia Cup would go out of Pakistan that Pakistan needed to hold the World Cup hosting rights hostage. They should have simply stated, "OK, You have said we can't come over there due to visa issue, then no need for you to come for Asia Cup, but we will need to host all of Pakistan's matches in Pakistan to make up for you not coming".
That would have forced BCCI to a real negotiating table. If Pakistan has to accept a hybrid model for the Asia cup, then so must India for the World Cup. It isn't as if there's no precedent from SL, PK, and Bangladesh being co-hosts of the 2011 World Cup. Pakistan would have gotten 5-6 World Cup matches in Pakistan, easily making up for the loss of India matches. India would have gotten one Pakistan-India match at a neutral site in return. After Jay Shah overstepping his bounds that would have been his opportunity to overstep.

It would have also stimulated marketing and event spending in Pakistan, boosting the economies in Karachi, Lahore, and Pindi.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's some next level dada-giri. You play dirty politics and then you call Pakistan politically motivated? When Pakistan has safely hosted numerous teams over the past several years, it is up to India to decide whether to be there or not, but we all know India won't be able to digest Pakistan hosting a major tournament with or without them, so it is India's politically motivated stance, not Pakistan's.

As for the current PCB yes it is a joke because it is based on the likings of stooges in PDM, won't argue with you there as PCB is functioning just like the incompetent corrupt party that brought it's people in, party which has driven every sector of Pakistan on free fall. This is the reason why current PCB has no backbone to make a hard stance, atleast under Ramiz PCB had shame and took a stance. Agreed that PCB must be an independent body which unfortunately isnt the case in Pakistan. Regardless that has no bearing on Pakistan being able to host a tournament in a 2 years time as for several years now Pakistan has hosted many international teams successfully.

Keep dirty politics off sports, this is not a parliament of people in loongi and dhooti in Delhi, it's a sport where immaturity and childish behaviours shouldn't be supported

The people in loongi and dhoti are running the game and paying the bills while all you do is make statements online.

Pakistanis should next time put their money where their mouth is so that 90 per cent of ICC revenues don't come from the ones in loongis and dhotis.

PCB is literally surviving on the ICC revenues generated from these loongis and dhotis while the likes of you can only run your mouth.

Those who pay the bills run the show.

If you guys have a bit of self respect ask PCB to hold the CT without India. Running your mouth and making racist posts on a Pakistani dominated forum is easy. Generating revenues isn't.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This is why I argued back when this news came out where Jay Shah started claiming Asia Cup would go out of Pakistan that Pakistan needed to hold the World Cup hosting rights hostage. They should have simply stated, "OK, You have said we can't come over there due to visa issue, then no need for you to come for Asia Cup, but we will need to host all of Pakistan's matches in Pakistan to make up for you not coming".
That would have forced BCCI to a real negotiating table. If Pakistan has to accept a hybrid model for the Asia cup, then so must India for the World Cup. It isn't as if there's no precedent from SL, PK, and Bangladesh being co-hosts of the 2011 World Cup. Pakistan would have gotten 5-6 World Cup matches in Pakistan, easily making up for the loss of India matches. India would have gotten one Pakistan-India match at a neutral site in return. After Jay Shah overstepping his bounds that would have been his opportunity to overstep.

It would have also stimulated marketing and event spending in Pakistan, boosting the economies in Karachi, Lahore, and Pindi.

All this would happen if Pakistan had negotiating power on the table. India brings 90 per cent of the revenues, without them Asia cup or ICC tournaments wont generate money.

Only if PCB offers to compensate any loss of revenue due to India's absence they can do what you suggested.

 

[Kriketer]

The people in loongi and dhoti are running the game and paying the bills while all you do is make statements online.

Pakistanis should next time put their money where their mouth is so that 90 per cent of ICC revenues don't come from the ones in loongis and dhotis.

PCB is literally surviving on the ICC revenues generated from these loongis and dhotis while the likes of you can only run your mouth.

Those who pay the bills run the show.

If you guys have a bit of self respect ask PCB to hold the CT without India. Running your mouth and making racist posts on a Pakistani dominated forum is easy. Generating revenues isn't.

Let's see any other sports which has such racist bunch who can't stand a particular sporting nation and does everything against it because they cant let go off their hatred and can't stop mixing their racist dirty politics with sports. Answer is "NO" because you don't have dhooti loongies of Delhi making calls in other sports. Funny how you play such a card when your whole cricketing and nation existence now is based on racism and hate which you showcase all out in the only sport you are good at. You bringing in revenue? Ya no big deal when you are 1/6th of the world. You are no different than any other cricketing nation when it comes to treatment and respect among all others, the only reason why you get away with it is because of total corruption, filth and greed in this sport. Try that in any other sport and you will get the boot

 

[cricketjoshila]

Let's see any other sports which has such racist bunch who can't stand a particular sporting nation and does everything against it because they cant let go off their hatred and can't stop mixing their racist dirty politics with sports. Answer is "NO" because you don't have dhooti loongies of Delhi making calls in other sports. Funny how you play such a card when your whole cricketing and nation existence now is based on racism and hate which you showcase all out in the only sport you are good at. You bringing in revenue? Ya no big deal when you are 1/6th of the world. You are no different than any other cricketing nation when it comes to treatment and respect among all others, the only reason why you get away with it is because of total corruption, filth and greed in this sport. Try that in any other sport and you will get the boot

Why are Russians being boycotted? Racism? Politics?

Why was it all good for Pakistan to boycott matches in India in 90s in the name of Kashmir and Babri masjid but when India returns the favour its racism and politics?

Pakistan has a population of 240mn, why don't you guys bring in the second biggest revenue?

Why did IHF shifted hockey qualifiers from Pakistan?

Get the boot? You mean sports boycott doesn't regularly happen across the world?

 

[zn426]

All this would happen if Pakistan had negotiating power on the table. India brings 90 per cent of the revenues, without them Asia cup or ICC tournaments wont generate money.

Only if PCB offers to compensate any loss of revenue due to India's absence they can do what you suggested.

We did have leverage. maybe BCCI is fine but you think ICC can afford to have no Pakistan vs India match?

The Asia cup loss of revenue would be attributed solely to india. Thus Pakistan has no responsibility to pay anything. It's not as if Pakistan was boycotting the tournament, it's India.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Yeah, I don't think CT is going to happen in Pakistan. Not with India anyway.

 

[cricketjoshila]

We did have leverage. maybe BCCI is fine but you think ICC can afford to have no Pakistan vs India match?

The Asia cup loss of revenue would be attributed solely to india. Thus Pakistan has no responsibility to pay anything. It's not as if Pakistan was boycotting the tournament, it's India.

You think ICC will try to upset BCCI for PCB?

ICC doesn't sell India Pakistan rights separately. Its just part of the whole rights package.

Recently ICC sold its TV rights region wise. Indian territory rights accounted for nearly 90 per cent of the total sale amount. Next are England and Australia.

Pakistan's revenue contribution isn't that big. The revenue comes from India.

Without India there would be little revenue in the Asia cup.

So if Pakistan wanted to play the Asia cup without India then PCB had to make up the revenue shortfall from the pocket. If not, then host the tournament where India can play.

Same situation will arise in 2025.

 

[saqib.rai]

Yeah, I don't think CT is going to happen in Pakistan. Not with India anyway.

The threat to take away the Champions Trophy and reward it to West Indies and USA was made when the PCB and the Pakistani government had still not given the nod to go to India for the World Cup.
It was basically the BCCI using its influence over media houses and running this story when nothing like this was even discussed.

ICC cannot risk India boycotting the CT so the whole tournament wouldn't take place in Pakistan. They also cannot afford the Host and DEFENDING CHAMPIONS boycotting so would give some matches to Pakistan to host.

It would be played in the hybrid model like the Asia Cup. This would give Pakistan some face saving and India wouldn't have to travel to Pakistan.

But BCCI would start by wanting to take away the whole tournament from Pakistan conveyed through a tweet before the elections in April.

So Pakistan eventually would consider getting to host some matches as a win.

 

[saqib.rai]

Why are Russians being boycotted? Racism? Politics?

Why was it all good for Pakistan to boycott matches in India in 90s in the name of Kashmir and Babri masjid but when India returns the favour its racism and politics?

Pakistan has a population of 240mn, why don't you guys bring in the second biggest revenue?

Why did IHF shifted hockey qualifiers from Pakistan?

Get the boot? You mean sports boycott doesn't regularly happen across the world?

If India's population was 240 million, would you guys bring in the second biggest revenue?

You guys have a lower GDP per capita than Bangladesh but act as it you guys are running the world.

Are only decent in one sport cricket and even in that sport haven't won a single ICC event in 10 years. What a pity

 

[saqib.rai]

This is why I argued back when this news came out where Jay Shah started claiming Asia Cup would go out of Pakistan that Pakistan needed to hold the World Cup hosting rights hostage. They should have simply stated, "OK, You have said we can't come over there due to visa issue, then no need for you to come for Asia Cup, but we will need to host all of Pakistan's matches in Pakistan to make up for you not coming".
That would have forced BCCI to a real negotiating table. If Pakistan has to accept a hybrid model for the Asia cup, then so must India for the World Cup. It isn't as if there's no precedent from SL, PK, and Bangladesh being co-hosts of the 2011 World Cup. Pakistan would have gotten 5-6 World Cup matches in Pakistan, easily making up for the loss of India matches. India would have gotten one Pakistan-India match at a neutral site in return. After Jay Shah overstepping his bounds that would have been his opportunity to overstep.

It would have also stimulated marketing and event spending in Pakistan, boosting the economies in Karachi, Lahore, and Pindi.

Bro which planet are you living in? ICC had clearly told PCB that if you dont want to come fine, we will have World Cup without you and not pay you the annual 35 million dollars.

India does generate 80 percent revenue but that's because it's a ONE SPORT COUNTRY and WORLD BEATER IN REPRODUCTION.
Cricket is only seriously played in South Asia. It's a secondary sport in England, Australia and SA.

This whole system of cricket is broken where one country can do as it wishes without being questioned and held accountable. I guess we would just have to live with it