[Report] Babar Azam to be sacked after ICC World Cup 2023 - Sarfaraz, Shaheen and Rizwan emerge as potential replacements

Who should take over if Babar Azam is no longer ODI Captain of Pakistan?


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Like I said in 2021 Babar as captain is not only clueless but he lacks the luck good captains have aswell. Countless close matches lost under him due a single moment of luck going against us in the closing stages.

Not just the losses but even in games we’ve won we often question his captaincy…whether it’s not knowing when to attack and defend with his field sets or when to bring on or stop bowling spinner.

They lose a wicket, no slip. New batsman edges it 3rd man.

Got them 4 down in the PP, bring on a spinner to let the new batsman settle.

Got 2 bowling all rounders (Nawaz and Shadab), bowls Ifti more than the guy whose been picked to bowl 10 overs.

Babar doesn’t know how to use his team effectively. The amount of times we as fans think if we’re missing players in the XI because they’re not being used with the bat and with ball.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.
 
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As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.

Certainly Good news. Because Shoaib Malik is fit and one of the best and experienced T20 player.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.

Didn't the govt announce that Zaka can't make long term decisions?
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.

This would make me happy. Malik would make a great choice for the t20 WC.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.
I hope this not happens

Going back to 40 year old is the last thing we need
 
Hopefully the news of Malik coming back as captain are true… like it or not but he’s a man with intelligence…and there’s no one better to lead a T20 team than him.
 
As per a credible sports journalist, babar has decided, not to leave captaincy.. unfortunately it seems, we are stuck with babar, for atleast 10 more years, as I dont think PCB has the balls to remove him from captaincy
 
As per a credible sports journalist, babar has decided, not to leave captaincy.. unfortunately it seems, we are stuck with babar, for atleast 10 more years, as I dont think PCB has the balls to remove him from captaincy
Why did he decline? He failed as captain, he should take responsibility and just step down. what is his reason to decline?
 
Why did he decline? He failed as captain, he should take responsibility and just step down. what is his reason to decline?
Quite possibly to avoid punishment. There are some serious allegations against him & his clique regarding conflict of interest. If even 1/4 of them are true then I can see why the clique would refuse to step down.
 
I was one of few who strongly suggested to make someone else captain as Babar is a very slow reader of the game. I was afraid that we will lose Babar the batsman in the next World Cup and that’s exactly what happened. We should go back and pull all those threads and see what posters said back in days.
I believe Rizwan is the right candidate to take this team forward. No one in our team can read the game as fast as Rizwan.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.
Id take shoaib malik over babar and friends
 
Woww. Just woww

I was tired of reading senseless comments on social media and listening to 10th fail sports journalists on YouTube

A friend recommended this forum. Was really impressed initially

Now seeing majority people supporting Shoaib Malik to lead us in the next t20 World Cup, I can only say you guys deserve humiliation

The guy is a proven lobbyist. A mediocre cricketer. Over 40 years old. Lost matches purposely to remove captains

Has no place in the t20 team. Had a pathetic PSL, CPL and LPL

Really guys, why do you hate Babar so much that you lose even basic reasoning?

He is the ICC Cricketer of the Year. Majority of the "legends" sitting on TV couldn't even get into Team of the year EVEN ONCE let alone become Cricketer of the Year.
(Shoaib Akhtar, Shoaib Malik)

We as a nation need serious introspection. Need to respect our true heroes like Babar
 
Really guys, why do you hate Babar so much that you lose even basic reasoning?
No one hates Babar personally. But his cricketing decisions and direction have also been completely against basic reasoning.

He just doesn’t make sense. Nor does anyone from his friendship circle
 
This , Picking Rizzy would mean status Quo . If we really wanna shake up things then Imad or Sarfi (ideally) for maybe 2-3 years while they groom a VC to take over and NO shadab ain't it.
Yup! Rizwan is going to be more of the same. Take the game deep, play sensibly. Although tactically may be superior. Not a bad choice but I doubt it will be transformational.

I don’t know every single player. But here are the guys who seem to have an attacking mindset:
1. Fakhar. This guy is mentally very strong. Why can’t he lead the side?
2. Shan Masood. I know he hasn’t grabbed opportunities but he is at least trying to play modern cricket whenever he gets a chance in tests.
3. Shaheen Shah: Going by Lahore Qalandars style of play. Fitness is an issue.
4. Saud Shakeel: This guy has developed his game the most. Seems intelligent
 
I think Shaheen is not ready yet and the less we talk about Sarfaraz the better.

Shaheen needs to take a break and work on his fitness. He also needs to resign from the captaincy post of Lahore Qalandars.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.
Sarfaraz also met Zaka Ashraf. I am guessing Zaka has spoken to Sarfaraz to lead the ODI side, Shoaib Malik to lead the T20 side, and Babar will continue to lead in tests.
 
Pakistan cricketers did well in 1980s and 1990s was due to county cricket.

Pakistani cricketers becoming part of IPL will solve that problem.

You will not be world beaters but atleast wouldn’t lose to Afghans.

Footballers hardly are college educated ever but look at them..
Agree with point 1.

Disagree with the rest. Pak players playing in IPL would not make them better, but worse. There is no correlation between T20 leagues and team performance/ICC comp wins. Pakistan managed to win an ICC tournament, and ended up T20 WC runners up, despite not playing in the IPL. Conversely, India have not won a WC T20 since the inception of the IPL, nor a ICC title since 2013.

West Indies failed to qualify for this WC, yet their players play in the IPL.

The only advantage of playing in the IPL is accustoming to Indian conditions, which obviously help if the WC is held in India.
 
problem is this is bad time to change captain. WC is over, whats the point now. whoever comes will likely get replaced in 3 years. you could have gone with senior player before WC. now you can only consider a junior player but give license to fail for 12 months but trying new approach like England did with their reset. only person that comes to mind that could work for both test and ODI is Saud, with Rizwan or Shaheen as VC. Else let Babar stay as captain, anyway really tough guarenteed loss tour of Aus coming. Groom someone and then have them take over after next PSL some time.
 
Shan 20, Imad 19, Sarfraz 12 votes - do people read the topic for what exactly they are voting!!!!

Babar needs to go, because it’s costing his batting; Rizwan shouldn’t be appointed at this age because he is already over burdened & doing a rowdy job of WKeeping (& it’s like sideways move from Babar)….. but Shan, Sarfraz, Imad!!!!!!

I’ll take Babar to continue if any of the three is the incumbent. Shan at a time was my choice for Test captaincy - but that was over Azhar Ali and at least 5/6 years back - he is 34 now.

I see few “Others” as well - May be it’s for Imam; might not be the best player, but I think as Captain he will do better. I think, still a confirmed starter for Test cricket, worth trying for that format.

T20, there are some options and I believe everyone will do well including Babar or Rizwan….. main reason is that PAK is a much better T20 team.
 
As per media reports, Zaka Ashraf has spoken to Shoaib Malik to lead the Pakistan t20 team to the t20 WC next year. This rumour has been strengthened by Malik's statement that he is ready to play in the WC next year. If this becomes true Pakistan will be taking 10 steps backwards than going forward.
This further solidifies my belief that Zaka Ashraf is probably the worst person to ever be chairman for PCB and whatever comes out of Zardari/PPP is destructive for Pakistan.
 
If Babar Azam does not leave captaincy but he would just be doing what our cricketers are used to doing. He will scream, drag his feet to the last minute until he will be thrown out of captaincy by force.
 
Sarfaraz also met Zaka Ashraf. I am guessing Zaka has spoken to Sarfaraz to lead the ODI side, Shoaib Malik to lead the T20 side, and Babar will continue to lead in tests.
Wow! That's horrific! Are PCB giving up on international cricket and just focusing on the senior and pensioners circuit?!

Babar is not a good captain but the options to replace him are just depressing...
 
Yup! Rizwan is going to be more of the same. Take the game deep, play sensibly. Although tactically may be superior. Not a bad choice but I doubt it will be transformational.

I don’t know every single player. But here are the guys who seem to have an attacking mindset:
1. Fakhar. This guy is mentally very strong. Why can’t he lead the side?
2. Shan Masood. I know he hasn’t grabbed opportunities but he is at least trying to play modern cricket whenever he gets a chance in tests.
3. Shaheen Shah: Going by Lahore Qalandars style of play. Fitness is an issue.
4. Saud Shakeel: This guy has developed his game the most. Seems intelligent

totally understand where your coming from, but captaincy requires a different set of skills altogether
we have always made the best player of the team a captain in the past and we have never been successful with this approach.
even Babar was made captain based on his skills as a player and you can see the results for your self

shan Masood is probably the only option for captaincy from the list you have mentioned and surprisingly he has done well in domestic this season. except his trike rate is poor given the quality of Pakistan domestic. he averages at 60 with sr of 90
as a player he wouldn't be any be than imam ul haq.

other option is sarfaraz ahmed, he just took his team to finals in the qaid e azam trophy and has won the final too
his average is 99.57 this season with 2 x 100 and 4 x 50 and 4 not outs so he seems like an option and he could groom someone like saim ayub for the next world cup
 
If Babar is sacked then who should be the captain

Sarfraz a 38 year old pot belly mediocre batsman or SSA an injury prone fast bowler who also goes awol in big games or Rizwan a 30 year old self claimed preacher who already has more than cricket at his hands.

If we are to take the bluff them make Saud Shakeel the captain
 
Shan 20, Imad 19, Sarfraz 12 votes - do people read the topic for what exactly they are voting!!!!

Babar needs to go, because it’s costing his batting; Rizwan shouldn’t be appointed at this age because he is already over burdened & doing a rowdy job of WKeeping (& it’s like sideways move from Babar)….. but Shan, Sarfraz, Imad!!!!!!

I’ll take Babar to continue if any of the three is the incumbent. Shan at a time was my choice for Test captaincy - but that was over Azhar Ali and at least 5/6 years back - he is 34 now.

I see few “Others” as well - May be it’s for Imam; might not be the best player, but I think as Captain he will do better. I think, still a confirmed starter for Test cricket, worth trying for that format.

T20, there are some options and I believe everyone will do well including Babar or Rizwan….. main reason is that PAK is a much better T20 team.
Shan would transform the mentality of the side. He went from an untalented underperforming cricketer, to learning to dominate in domestic cricket, with the highest list A average. In t20s, there were remarks he was too slow. In order to push for his place, he tried to transform his whole game, performing in english domestic T20s, increasing his power hitting, and being more inventive with his shots. You could see he tried to apply this new found game to international T20s, but it didn't work, and he just went back to being conservative again. Both Multan and english sides responded well to his captaincy.

The guy has shown immense application on improving his game, in both performance as well as trying to modernise his game, all while keeping great fitness standards. I haven't seen many Pakistani cricketers that have done that. It's just a real shame he just naturally isn't talented enough or good enough for his place in the side. Usually the guys in the team are either talented and don't work hard enough (umar akmal, Sharjeel etc.) or there are guys who more play within their limitations well (Rizwan comes to mind). Shan had to pretty much go from nothing to get to the level he is now, which is hugely impressive.

I'm sure a performing Shan as captain would inspire others to keep fitness and fielding standards high, actually look to develop and improve their game further rather than resting on their laurels and thinking your good enough. But obviously if he's not performing, no one is going to respect him. So it sadly won't work him being captain.

One thing you can see in say previous captains is they didn't have that mentality. Sarfraz let himself get unfit, deteriorated in keeping and batting. Misbah kept his fitness and batting up, but resigned himself as being that slow anchor batter in the middle, down the order. Misbah had power in his game and probably could have better rotated strike, he could have done more. Babar hasn't developed his power game and some other parts of his game. If you look at Kohli he was similar to Babar early on, he didn't have a power game. But he focused on improving that. I genuinely think Shan has thrown the kitchen sink at trying to improve, if he had the talent of our other cricketers, I think he really would have been something.
 
Shan would transform the mentality of the side. He went from an untalented underperforming cricketer, to learning to dominate in domestic cricket, with the highest list A average. In t20s, there were remarks he was too slow. In order to push for his place, he tried to transform his whole game, performing in english domestic T20s, increasing his power hitting, and being more inventive with his shots. You could see he tried to apply this new found game to international T20s, but it didn't work, and he just went back to being conservative again. Both Multan and english sides responded well to his captaincy.

The guy has shown immense application on improving his game, in both performance as well as trying to modernise his game, all while keeping great fitness standards. I haven't seen many Pakistani cricketers that have done that. It's just a real shame he just naturally isn't talented enough or good enough for his place in the side. Usually the guys in the team are either talented and don't work hard enough (umar akmal, Sharjeel etc.) or there are guys who more play within their limitations well (Rizwan comes to mind). Shan had to pretty much go from nothing to get to the level he is now, which is hugely impressive.

I'm sure a performing Shan as captain would inspire others to keep fitness and fielding standards high, actually look to develop and improve their game further rather than resting on their laurels and thinking your good enough. But obviously if he's not performing, no one is going to respect him. So it sadly won't work him being captain.

One thing you can see in say previous captains is they didn't have that mentality. Sarfraz let himself get unfit, deteriorated in keeping and batting. Misbah kept his fitness and batting up, but resigned himself as being that slow anchor batter in the middle, down the order. Misbah had power in his game and probably could have better rotated strike, he could have done more. Babar hasn't developed his power game and some other parts of his game. If you look at Kohli he was similar to Babar early on, he didn't have a power game. But he focused on improving that. I genuinely think Shan has thrown the kitchen sink at trying to improve, if he had the talent of our other cricketers, I think he really would have been something.
Shan would transform the mentality of the side. He went from an untalented underperforming cricketer, to learning to dominate in domestic cricket, with the highest list A average. In t20s, there were remarks he was too slow. In order to push for his place, he tried to transform his whole game, performing in english domestic T20s, increasing his power hitting, and being more inventive with his shots. You could see he tried to apply this new found game to international T20s, but it didn't work, and he just went back to being conservative again. Both Multan and english sides responded well to his captaincy.

The guy has shown immense application on improving his game, in both performance as well as trying to modernise his game, all while keeping great fitness standards. I haven't seen many Pakistani cricketers that have done that. It's just a real shame he just naturally isn't talented enough or good enough for his place in the side. Usually the guys in the team are either talented and don't work hard enough (umar akmal, Sharjeel etc.) or there are guys who more play within their limitations well (Rizwan comes to mind). Shan had to pretty much go from nothing to get to the level he is now, which is hugely impressive.

I'm sure a performing Shan as captain would inspire others to keep fitness and fielding standards high, actually look to develop and improve their game further rather than resting on their laurels and thinking your good enough. But obviously if he's not performing, no one is going to respect him. So it sadly won't work him being captain.

One thing you can see in say previous captains is they didn't have that mentality. Sarfraz let himself get unfit, deteriorated in keeping and batting. Misbah kept his fitness and batting up, but resigned himself as being that slow anchor batter in the middle, down the order. Misbah had power in his game and probably could have better rotated strike, he could have done more. Babar hasn't developed his power game and some other parts of his game. If you look at Kohli he was similar to Babar early on, he didn't have a power game. But he focused on improving that. I genuinely think Shan has thrown the kitchen sink at trying to improve, if he had the talent of our other cricketers, I think he really would have been something.
I agree most of the points and I actually know these, for that Shan was my choice for few years.

Problem is, first qualifier for a cricket captain is that he should be an automatic choice for playing XI on playing merit. Gone are the days of specialist captains. This is where Shan fails. He is 34, but born in Kuwait, therefore I guess guy is genuine 34/35, can lead side till next WC, but he has to make the starting XI on his batting only, doesn’t bowl either that you can pick him as bits & pieces all-rounder like Shanaka or Darren Sammy.

Batsman captain for a struggling side and batting unit isn’t a good choice - if he struggles as a batsman, team will fail & everyone will question the appointment, making him even more desperate….. often this results into dependency on off field influences or picking personal favourites, for protection.

May not be the best choices, but only realistic options are Shaheen for Test, Shadab for white ball or may be Shaheen for all three formats - Shadab deputy for white ball, Saud/Abdullah for red ball. And, Shaheen skips most of the useless white ball games, allowing Shadab to grow.
 
As per media sources, Babar Azam has been seeking guidance on his future, consulting with former PCB chairman Ramiz Raja and people close to him.

During the training at Kolkata's Eden Gardens on Friday, Babar Azam sought advice from Ramiz Raja.
 
As per media sources, Babar Azam has been seeking guidance on his future, consulting with former PCB chairman Ramiz Raja and people close to him.

During the training at Kolkata's Eden Gardens on Friday, Babar Azam sought advice from Ramiz Raja.
Seeking advice from the man who lead him down the wrong path…a path that has been the downfall of Pakistan cricket
 
As per media sources, Babar Azam has been seeking guidance on his future, consulting with former PCB chairman Ramiz Raja and people close to him.

During the training at Kolkata's Eden Gardens on Friday, Babar Azam sought advice from Ramiz Raja.
This is clear proof that Babar only listens to people who tell him that he is perfect.
 
As per media sources, Babar Azam has been seeking guidance on his future, consulting with former PCB chairman Ramiz Raja and people close to him.

During the training at Kolkata's Eden Gardens on Friday, Babar Azam sought advice from Ramiz Raja.

Why does a grown 28 year old man need advice from Ramiz Raja of all people? Why can't he use his own common sense and read the writing on the wall?
 
Michael Atherton and Nasser Hussain are probably there right now in Kolkata. They are sincere well wishers of Pakistan cricket. They will always give you the best, correct advice out of sincerity

It’s these people who Babar should be consulting. Not a politically agenda driven Ramiz
 
Woww. Just woww

I was tired of reading senseless comments on social media and listening to 10th fail sports journalists on YouTube

A friend recommended this forum. Was really impressed initially

Now seeing majority people supporting Shoaib Malik to lead us in the next t20 World Cup, I can only say you guys deserve humiliation

The guy is a proven lobbyist. A mediocre cricketer. Over 40 years old. Lost matches purposely to remove captains

Has no place in the t20 team. Had a pathetic PSL, CPL and LPL

Really guys, why do you hate Babar so much that you lose even basic reasoning?

He is the ICC Cricketer of the Year. Majority of the "legends" sitting on TV couldn't even get into Team of the year EVEN ONCE let alone become Cricketer of the Year.
(Shoaib Akhtar, Shoaib Malik)

We as a nation need serious introspection. Need to respect our true heroes like Babar
I do respect Babar and I pay no attention to his haters, but it is time for him to resign and allow Rizwan or someone else to take this team forward. I know Babar is not going to rest and will continue to work hard to take his game to another level. He is already damn good, but next world cup he will be even better. Tendulkar was a team man and was smart enough to know that the leadership role would not allow him to do justice to his batting talents, It is time for Babar to realize the same.
 
Remember, Babar moved from KK to PZ just for the sake of his captaincy. I doubt the guy will step down here. He is also playing the PCB.

The PCB might be alittle scared removing him from captaincy due to the backlash by Babar fans. They are huge in numbers on social media and Zaka does not like to go against the tide.
 
Remember, Babar moved from KK to PZ just for the sake of his captaincy. I doubt the guy will step down here. He is also playing the PCB.

The PCB might be alittle scared removing him from captaincy due to the backlash by Babar fans. They are huge in numbers on social media and Zaka does not like to go against the tide.

I imagine minimal backlash, after failing qualification for World Cup semi finals.
 
I think babar is stubborn and just wont quit captaincy at any cost.. i feel Babar thinks that PCB cant remove him, as they are advised not to make any appointment, by sports ministry..this is what he is betting on.. but i think appointing captain comes in day to day affairs of PCB and they can appoint whoever they want..

i hope zaka has the guts to remove him..but i doubt it….Babar has insane following on social media.
 
Babar should now stay as captain for the Australia tour

No easy way out mate
Why? He should be removed. As per many posters he is the source of all problems. Lets us take the team you propose to Australia. Lets see if they will win. Why not take Asif Ali, Imad, Amir etc
No one hates Babar personally. But his cricketing decisions and direction have also been completely against basic reasoning.

He just doesn’t make sense. Nor does anyone from his friendship circle
 
Why? He should be removed. As per many posters he is the source of all problems. Lets us take the team you propose to Australia. Lets see if they will win. Why not take Asif Ali, Imad, Amir etc
Oh yeah as if the team I propose here will be the one that goes to Australia?

Babar’s fans have discredited 99.9% of all cricketers available to him for selection because apparently we have no Lara’s and Bradman’s in our domestics as they say. Now these fans deserve their supreme leader to be fed to the lions in Australia. No one but him, it’s time to step up!
 
Oh yeah as if the team I propose here will be the one that goes to Australia?

Babar’s fans have discredited 99.9% of all cricketers available to him for selection because apparently we have no Lara’s and Bradman’s in our domestics as they say. Now these fans deserve their supreme leader to be fed to the lions in Australia. No one but him, it’s time to step up!
I don't understand. Babar is a poor captain I agree. But can you name a Rahane type player /captain who can win a test match leave series in. Australia. I think we are just making excuses to hide the fact that our players are not upto the mark. You select anyone you like we won't win a single test in Australia. What does that tell you?
 
I don't understand. Babar is a poor captain I agree. But can you name a Rahane type player /captain who can win a test match leave series in. Australia. I think we are just making excuses to hide the fact that our players are not upto the mark. You select anyone you like we won't win a single test in Australia. What does that tell you?
It tells me that the man who’s fans didn’t give a fair chance to the young team that was selected to represent Pakistan against Afghanistan T20 series now has to take the fall in the TOUGHEST series in world cricket.

No excuses.
 
Remember, Babar moved from KK to PZ just for the sake of his captaincy. I doubt the guy will step down here. He is also playing the PCB.

The PCB might be alittle scared removing him from captaincy due to the backlash by Babar fans. They are huge in numbers on social media and Zaka does not like to go against the tide.
Read the room, real fans on social media want him to be removed. Only paid accounts and his cultists want him to stay and they are not much left.
 
As per media sources, Babar Azam has been seeking guidance on his future, consulting with former PCB chairman Ramiz Raja and people close to him.

During the training at Kolkata's Eden Gardens on Friday, Babar Azam sought advice from Ramiz Raja.
Seeking guidance to save his captaincy and his $. The only thing these lot care about.
 
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Shan would transform the mentality of the side. He went from an untalented underperforming cricketer, to learning to dominate in domestic cricket, with the highest list A average. In t20s, there were remarks he was too slow. In order to push for his place, he tried to transform his whole game, performing in english domestic T20s, increasing his power hitting, and being more inventive with his shots. You could see he tried to apply this new found game to international T20s, but it didn't work, and he just went back to being conservative again. Both Multan and english sides responded well to his captaincy.

The guy has shown immense application on improving his game, in both performance as well as trying to modernise his game, all while keeping great fitness standards. I haven't seen many Pakistani cricketers that have done that. It's just a real shame he just naturally isn't talented enough or good enough for his place in the side. Usually the guys in the team are either talented and don't work hard enough (umar akmal, Sharjeel etc.) or there are guys who more play within their limitations well (Rizwan comes to mind). Shan had to pretty much go from nothing to get to the level he is now, which is hugely impressive.

I'm sure a performing Shan as captain would inspire others to keep fitness and fielding standards high, actually look to develop and improve their game further rather than resting on their laurels and thinking your good enough. But obviously if he's not performing, no one is going to respect him. So it sadly won't work him being captain.

One thing you can see in say previous captains is they didn't have that mentality. Sarfraz let himself get unfit, deteriorated in keeping and batting. Misbah kept his fitness and batting up, but resigned himself as being that slow anchor batter in the middle, down the order. Misbah had power in his game and probably could have better rotated strike, he could have done more. Babar hasn't developed his power game and some other parts of his game. If you look at Kohli he was similar to Babar early on, he didn't have a power game. But he focused on improving that. I genuinely think Shan has thrown the kitchen sink at trying to improve, if he had the talent of our other cricketers, I think he really would have been something.
Shan will showcase to the players that no matter how talented or hardworking you are, if you are born in the right place, you will always be given things on a plate and people will even defend you for it even if you duck a bowl against Andreson in UAE and get clean bowled. It is because the whole system is so messed up that people are justifying anything and everything.
 
Remember, Babar moved from KK to PZ just for the sake of his captaincy. I doubt the guy will step down here. He is also playing the PCB.

The PCB might be alittle scared removing him from captaincy due to the backlash by Babar fans. They are huge in numbers on social media and Zaka does not like to go against the tide.
They will be scared he will lose form if removed from captaincy. The loss of Babar as a batsman may not be worth the change in captaincy.

It's happened with Malik before. And if you look at other countries Pietersen too.
 
Shaheen will in most likelihood be the new captain. The Afridis have been lobbying for it since very long.
 
Perhaps PCB should run an assessment centre and bring worldwide cricket experts in as judges. Sort of similar to assessment centres in corporate environments.

Make the prospective captains supply presentations for how they would change the culture of Pakistan cricket. Monitor them under simulated environments to see how they cope. Test their cricketing acumen.

Let the judges score.
 
Like I said in 2021 Babar as captain is not only clueless but he lacks the luck good captains have aswell. Countless close matches lost under him due a single moment of luck going against us in the closing stages.
I think luck is nothing but the captain capability resulting in the opposition's small mistake or a costly mistake. Dhoni always enjoyed a good luck,I believe imran ,viv etc must have for sure.if opposition thinks babar is weak captain, they will simply stick to the basics and they know he won't stick to them after some time.
 
Would you appoint Imam-ul-Haq? Given his worth as the most important batsman in the team.
He does not warrant anyplace till he performs against big teams, resolve his short ball issues and be a team player with out that arrogance.
 
If I were a Pak fan, I'd want Rizwan to take over.
Y, that guy is the most dramatic captain ever.He will keep on pushing his own agenda everywhere. He may offer namaz in the press conference and will split entire world.may be some sensible one is required now for pak.
 
Babar is not good for the job of captain as he has very defensive approach…. When u r bowler have taken wicket, its a opportunity to put opposition under pressure by calling ur mail bowler… but Babar was seen saving his main bowlers to end overs….. Captains should now show when his team is under pressure or loosing… still can’t forget his face in dugout after bowled out for 191 runs against India…. Defeat was clearly written on his face
 
Crazy how Shadab’s decline has meant that we’re now looking to potentially appoint a captain who has less than 5 months of exposure at the international level and a lack of leadership skills.

We have no ideal candidate for captaincy in ODI’s…Imad Wasim is top of the list but can’t see him hanging around till 2027.

Ideally, we would’ve liked to have had someone in their mid/late 20’s with at least 70+ ODI games.

It’s not ideal but we have to go with this -


Tests - Sarfaraz

ODI’s - Saud Shakeel

T20’s - Shoaib Malik
 
Is Shaheen leadership material? Don't want him to bog down with captaincy. Already lost some mojo after injury.
 
Y, that guy is the most dramatic captain ever.He will keep on pushing his own agenda everywhere. He may offer namaz in the press conference and will split entire world.may be some sensible one is required now for pak.
He is the only player in the team who I feel can take on challenges, has cajones.
 
Y, that guy is the most dramatic captain ever.He will keep on pushing his own agenda everywhere. He may offer namaz in the press conference and will split entire world.may be some sensible one is required now for pak.
Bro. What does Namaz has to do anything with the captaincy skills? Rizwan has been captaining in the domestic system and in PSL as well and won the titles in both. Please do not bring namaz and religion in this chat as it has nothing to do with Babar or rizwan or anyone.
 
Bro. What does Namaz has to do anything with the captaincy skills? Rizwan has been captaining in the domestic system and in PSL as well and won the titles in both. Please do not bring namaz and religion in this chat as it has nothing to do with Babar or rizwan or anyone.
I mean that guy is a certified show-off . I doesn't mean to bring religion in the game but remember his pic in the New York city Street.He is full of himself and simply hogs to limelight. I may be wrong in bringing religion but am sure he will bring religion in lots of things with all his draamabazi.I lost respect for that guy as soon as he throw babur under the bus in afg game with out helping him.Apologies if Ur offended .
 
I mean that guy is a certified show-off . I doesn't mean to bring religion in the game but remember his pic in the New York city Street.He is full of himself and simply hogs to limelight. I may be wrong in bringing religion but am sure he will bring religion in lots of things with all his draamabazi.I lost respect for that guy as soon as he throw babur under the bus in afg game with out helping him.Apologies if Ur offended .​
no bro. I am not offended. I just want this thread to be kept on track. Rizwan might be a show off no doubt but his namaz and religion are not some of the things that he does for a show-off IMO. Discussing such stuff in this thread will derail the conversation which I do not want to happen.​
 
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Babar should be removed
but no way shoiab malik plays in the t20 team and sarfraz in odi is another disaster
 
Why not Fakhar as the ODI and T20 captain? Guy already won you an ICC tournament. He is the only one who brought some fight in this WC.
He has similar intent as Rohit Sharma.
 
Babar has two more WC left to make amends.

I think WC in India 2031 might be his finest hour.
 
Crazy how Shadab’s decline has meant that we’re now looking to potentially appoint a captain who has less than 5 months of exposure at the international level and a lack of leadership skills.

We have no ideal candidate for captaincy in ODI’s…Imad Wasim is top of the list but can’t see him hanging around till 2027.

Ideally, we would’ve liked to have had someone in their mid/late 20’s with at least 70+ ODI games.

It’s not ideal but we have to go with this -


Tests - Sarfaraz

ODI’s - Saud Shakeel

T20’s - Shoaib Malik
will bring the much needed experience in the middle order. Way better than all hacks Pakistan have been trying.
 
Babar will resign as captain upon returning back to Pakistan
 
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