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[Report] "Babar has already spoken to his teammates, and majority of them advised him not to step down himself": PCB source

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As per a media report, attributed to a PCB source:

"Babar has already spoken to his teammates, and majority of them advised him not to step down himself. He will come out with a clear line of action once he returns home with the team after failing to make the semi-finals of the World Cup in India. But, he will not step down himself,"

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PCB needs to step in very quickly.

Of course if you ask your colleagues they won't tell you to step down.

And also seems that they are asking him to stay on till he is sacked - What is happening here?
 
He must have consulted his cronies.
In any case why would any player want him to step down?
He does not challenge his players to improve performance or fitness.
And backs them even when they deserve to be dropped.

All he asks of his players to maintain brotherhood and camaraderie in the side but Babar miyan that is no substitute for talent and skill
 
Wasim Akram on Babar Azam’s captaincy:

"The captain alone is not playing the game. Yes he did make captaincy errors in this World Cup and in Asia Cup as well. But he isn't alone to blame. This is a fault of the entire system for the last one year or more where the players don't know who is the coach. You cannot make him the scapegoat here,"

"Babar is a star player and when he scores then the entire nation becomes happy and proud. But captaincy has put a pressure on Babar's performance. He indeed looked stressed, both in World Cup and Asia Cup. So he needs to learn how to handle pressure and think only as a batsman and how to get runs when he is there at the crease. It is easier said than done,"

"As a fan of Babar, we did expect that he would be among the top-three run-getters. But in Indian conditions he failed. And in terms of resources, all were toothless. If the fast bowlers and the spinners are not performing then Babar is not the only one to blame. But when it comes to leadership, everyone has to take the blame, whether it is the team management, selectors, coaches and Babar. It is because these resources were picked by them and you backed these out-of-form players,"​
 
Who are these guys who leak anything and everything out of the Pakistan dressing room?

Forget Babar - deal with these people first.
 
Babar should have stepped down immediately. Why taking extra burden when you know that captaincy in Pakistan is not a bed of roses.
Did you here audio leak of the new chief selector and how much venom he spitting on Rizwan and Babar. Even if Babar remains a Captain still now he will have 0 power in selecting squad and the new coach will select a playing 11 and even playing position will not be on Babar wish. It is like death wish to end career as well if you not a captain.
 
Did you here audio leak of the new chief selector and how much venom he spitting on Rizwan and Babar. Even if Babar remains a Captain still now he will have 0 power in selecting squad and the new coach will select a playing 11 and even playing position will not be on Babar wish. It is like death wish to end career as well if you not a captain.
Who is the new chief selector?
 
Did you here audio leak of the new chief selector and how much venom he spitting on Rizwan and Babar. Even if Babar remains a Captain still now he will have 0 power in selecting squad and the new coach will select a playing 11 and even playing position will not be on Babar wish. It is like death wish to end career as well if you not a captain.
This is what i am saying. Babar should relieve himslef of that extra unnecessary burden of captaincy. He is top batter and should play as one. This extra criticism is affecting him.
 
In short you cannot fight with PCB no matter how much bigger you are. The player who are advising him do not want Babar to play in the future because if you fight with the board of course, it is in a course that some players want Babar career to end as well. So it is death wish not wise.
 
Long live Dosti Yari, to hell with Pakistan cricket.

It's obvious why those in the team will support him

This PCB source needs to be exposed and sent packing asap.
 
Hahaha damm this is so laughable. Obviously your friends don’t want you to step down
 
Pakistan need an aggressive captain for short formats to drag them in to a modern playing style. The team can carry at most 2 batsman who play a more safety first style. That would be Babar because of his talent, and also Rizwan because he is also talented while filling in the wicket keeper role. Everyone else needs to be at least capable of the Fakhar style innings even if they are not as good at it as him. Then the safety first batters need to be willing to drop down the order if the game is going well so that Pakistan can shoot for the big scores. If the safety first batters are in good, aggressive form then they don't need to slip down the order.
 
Some of the team mates will be 'stepped down' soon.

Of course they are going to say this.
 
It's obvious why those in the team will support him

This PCB source needs to be exposed and sent packing asap.

Wonder if this is a deliberate leak to gauge the mood

if so, stupid idea!
 
The ODI question is fairly irrelevant right now considering Pakistan don't even play an ODI a year from now but the real question to ask is, should Babar continue as captain for T20's & Tests. Given the recent Test series in SL and I think the Test team needs more stability anyways, it may be fine for him to continue as captain for Tests.

For T20's however, he should be removed and the batting order needs to changed so both Rizwan & Babar aren't opening. One of them can open, but that other spot should be more for someone like Saim/Haris and it may be time for a fresh voice & captaincy in T20's anyways. Pakistan needs to have someone with an aggressive mindset in T20's, not a conservative approach that Babar uses.

For ODI's, I think you need to remove Babar but no need to name a replacement since Pakistan is not playing ODI's for a year anyways. You can give it some time, see how players perform in the next few months, PSL and see who it is that is even going to be a fixture in the ODI lineup going forward in the first place before naming captain.

However, knowing PCB dumb chairmen and management, they are likely to sack Babar across formats and name some random who can't even justify their batting spot like Shan or Sarfraz.
 
What a soft player union this is. The leader is unable to tell his mates that they were pathetic with the ball and bat and severely underperformed. While the mates are unable to tell the leader that his own performance and decision making is lacklustre.

While the management is busy making their monies on the sidelines without any ounce of sharam.

Bhai bhai all round. Beautiful to see.
 
Is it coup brewing inside pak team? Or pak players don’t want to loose their contract grade?

Every player is abide by the code n conduct of PCB…. PCB source leaking this means PCB 100% removing Babar from captaincy and they don’t want to face wrath of Babar fans
 
In short you cannot fight with PCB no matter how much bigger you are. The player who are advising him do not want Babar to play in the future because if you fight with the board of course, it is in a course that some players want Babar career to end as well. So it is death wish not wise.
Afridi faught with the board in 2011 after the World Cup- retired in protest

Guess what? Ijaz Butt was removed and Afridi came back
 
The ODI question is fairly irrelevant right now considering Pakistan don't even play an ODI a year from now but the real question to ask is, should Babar continue as captain for T20's & Tests. Given the recent Test series in SL and I think the Test team needs more stability anyways, it may be fine for him to continue as captain for Tests.

For T20's however, he should be removed and the batting order needs to changed so both Rizwan & Babar aren't opening. One of them can open, but that other spot should be more for someone like Saim/Haris and it may be time for a fresh voice & captaincy in T20's anyways. Pakistan needs to have someone with an aggressive mindset in T20's, not a conservative approach that Babar uses.

For ODI's, I think you need to remove Babar but no need to name a replacement since Pakistan is not playing ODI's for a year anyways. You can give it some time, see how players perform in the next few months, PSL and see who it is that is even going to be a fixture in the ODI lineup going forward in the first place before naming captain.

However, knowing PCB dumb chairmen and management, they are likely to sack Babar across formats and name some random who can't even justify their batting spot like Shan or Sarfraz.
POTW for me

Constructively Criticizing Babar's captaincy but also admitting that we CANNOT make mediocrity like Shan or Sarfraz captain

We don't have a SINGLE ODI in next 12 months, appointing a new Test captain with the first series being an away Australia series would be injustice to that person

For t20s, yes appoint a new captain. Preferably Shaheen
 
Dear diary

Today my boss, whose job is frankly in a bit of trouble and he may even be a sacked, came to see me.

Imagine my surprise when he asked me whether he should resign.

Immediately I told him “No boss! You’re the bestesr boss in the whole wide world, boss! You should definitely stay for at least a decade!
Dear diary he went away very happy.

I wonder what answer he thought I’d give him? But silly innit?

Oh wait though…maybe he’s smarter than I thought…

Regards
 
Your mates, many of which you have personally supported and selected, will not tell you to step down to your face. Their entire career depends on being in good graces with you.

Bobby, you gotta look inside. Are you ready to grind out another 4 year cycle as an ODI captain? Or would you rather focus on batting to your potential?
 
We can't afford an unhappy team

It's too simple to say that they are his friends and won't tell him to step down for that reason. From personal experience, friends tend to give you honest advice even if it means facing hard truths.

It is possible that alot of players genuinely feel that Babar should continue as captain as he is not totally to be blamed for this world cup campaign which is true.

The last thing we need is a players revolt as we are unable to replace the entire squad.

Just continue with Babar for time being
 
We can't afford an unhappy team

It's too simple to say that they are his friends and won't tell him to step down for that reason. From personal experience, friends tend to give you honest advice even if it means facing hard truths.

It is possible that alot of players genuinely feel that Babar should continue as captain as he is not totally to be blamed for this world cup campaign which is true.

The last thing we need is a players revolt as we are unable to replace the entire squad.

Just continue with Babar for time being
LOL this is not a local club team, its the national team of Pakistan. Babar failed big time. He took a squad so out of balance. at least 6 players including Babar should be dropped. Its not about the format, its about the mindset and Babar does not have the right mindset.
 
We can't afford an unhappy team

It's too simple to say that they are his friends and won't tell him to step down for that reason. From personal experience, friends tend to give you honest advice even if it means facing hard truths.

It is possible that alot of players genuinely feel that Babar should continue as captain as he is not totally to be blamed for this world cup campaign which is true.

The last thing we need is a players revolt as we are unable to replace the entire squad.

Just continue with Babar for time being

PCB shouldn't care about that.

Most of his friends (including his two close buddies) don't even deserve to be on the team and should be dropped.
 
Most of the people believe by sacking Babar, all the problems of Pakistan team will be solved, but actually this is not the scenario barring Babar no other player in this squad is guaranteed a spot, Rizwan is a mediocre batsman who is bound to fail in 8 out of 10 innings in SENA conditions, then what will you do sack Rizwan this merry go needs to stop Babar has time on his side let him continue in ODIs and Tests.

Experiment with someone else in T20s if he succeed then you can make a case
 
DO not try to fight PCB.

Few years back, under Zaka Ashraf, Misbah was captain for all three formats. WHen Pakistan lost a t20 series in against England, because they messed up the run chase, Zaka Ashraf asked Misbah to retire from T20, and he had to unwillingly.

But kind of saved Misbah's career, because that allowed him to continue to play till 2015 odi.

Babar needs to be careful and not pick a useless fight with PCB. You will be removed as captain, and the next tour is Australia. No captain has won a test there and you dont need that blemish right after the world cup
 
DO not try to fight PCB.

Few years back, under Zaka Ashraf, Misbah was captain for all three formats. WHen Pakistan lost a t20 series in against England, because they messed up the run chase, Zaka Ashraf asked Misbah to retire from T20, and he had to unwillingly.

But kind of saved Misbah's career, because that allowed him to continue to play till 2015 odi.

Babar needs to be careful and not pick a useless fight with PCB. You will be removed as captain, and the next tour is Australia. No captain has won a test there and you dont need that blemish right after the world cup
Yes Amir career ended, Shoaib Akhar ended, Danish, Juniad Kham etc all ended due to fight with management even if the chairman is hired for only 1 day the result is same.

Learn from Sarfarz and Misbha and leave to safe your career otherwise, those friends are going to be dropped but you be will dropped forever.
 
This is just a school friend group at this point.

This guy has shown ego issues in the past , not sure if he can take the follower role without causing issues to the team and whoever becomes captain.

Which also begs the question that if some of the team mates did feel he is not fit for the role, did they stay silent and support him because they didn’t want to be outcasted?
 
When Babar asked his mates,

Hassan Ali: Babar the king. Tu Kar le ga
 
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If all top 5 in the batting order gets 50+ scores, it will he the first time I’ve seen such!

Commentator just said it’s the 3rd time all top 5 batters got 50s in ODI
 
As for ODI cricket, find a young captain that will be there in 4 years time. We were poor in the field and players that in their 30s today will not get any younger. The problem is that none of the alternatives are any better, do you go for SSA, a guy that is one of the main reasons we were so poor. Do you go Abdullah, a guy that doesn't have anything better than solid next to his name, or do you go for a guy with a personality like Naseem but is rarely fit and has no leadership experience.
 
The players should have no say. If they aren't comfortable then drop them. Our players don't have the record to decide or give advice.
 
It’s the ex cricketers sitting on tv blasting babar's captaincy (and rightly so) but it’s making baba coming out smelling of roses, he wants to become a martyr by not stepping down himself but his captaincy should die a natural death in the coming week & tbh he doesn’t deserve a spot on the team aswell.
 
They don’t want him to step down because they’ll be kicked out too.

Imam
Nawaz
Shadab
Iftikhar
Shakeel
Hasan Ali
Shafique

All of them need to be dropped.
Very good list of players to kick out.

Probably would just keep Ifti chacha for T20's only.
 
As for ODI cricket, find a young captain that will be there in 4 years time. We were poor in the field and players that in their 30s today will not get any younger. The problem is that none of the alternatives are any better, do you go for SSA, a guy that is one of the main reasons we were so poor. Do you go Abdullah, a guy that doesn't have anything better than solid next to his name, or do you go for a guy with a personality like Naseem but is rarely fit and has no leadership experience.
Thats the plan to make sarfaraz captain so he can groom someone like saim ayub for the next worldcup

But fan boys want their rizzu's and king babar's and shehnsha afridis
 
He is 37
And already failed as captain in previous stint

he went back to domestic grinded it out and won his team qaid e azam trophy recently

Averages at 99.5 in first-class this season

Just someone had a bad stint it doesn't mean he's not going to improve
 
LOL this is not a local club team, its the national team of Pakistan. Babar failed big time. He took a squad so out of balance. at least 6 players including Babar should be dropped. Its not about the format, its about the mindset and Babar does not have the right mindset.

Don't need to drop Babar, he just needs to step down as captain. He had a good run to make it work but it didn't. Its okay now he can go back to doing what he does best and concentrate on that.
 
DO not try to fight PCB.

Few years back, under Zaka Ashraf, Misbah was captain for all three formats. WHen Pakistan lost a t20 series in against England, because they messed up the run chase, Zaka Ashraf asked Misbah to retire from T20, and he had to unwillingly.

But kind of saved Misbah's career, because that allowed him to continue to play till 2015 odi.

Babar needs to be careful and not pick a useless fight with PCB. You will be removed as captain, and the next tour is Australia. No captain has won a test there and you dont need that blemish right after the world cup
Don't think so. Babar has powerful people backing up. PCB will find excuse of not enough time for 2024 World Cup and 2025 Champion Trophy and he is learning from mistakes so they will retain at least 2027 World Cup. So we will see Nawaz, Imam, Hasan, Shadab...continue. PCB is spineless organization and will do what Babar told them to do, otherwise he will threat to retire and PCB will not put themselves in trouble.
 
Yes Amir career ended, Shoaib Akhar ended, Danish, Juniad Kham etc all ended due to fight with management even if the chairman is hired for only 1 day the result is same.

Learn from Sarfarz and Misbha and leave to safe your career otherwise, those friends are going to be dropped but you be will dropped forever.
You cannot compare Shoaib, Danish, Junaid...These players never had support from powerful people. Babar has all the support from formers, media, elite and international. He may threat to resign and PCB will be in trouble
 
Thats the plan to make sarfaraz captain so he can groom someone like saim ayub for the next worldcup

But fan boys want their rizzu's and king babar's and shehnsha afridis
Really? An overweight Sarfraz to do what? What's this obsession with grooming? This is an Plumbing apprenticeship. Look for a guy in the team that has something.
 
They don’t want him to step down because they’ll be kicked out too.

Imam
Nawaz
Shadab
Iftikhar
Shakeel
Hasan Ali
Shafique

All of them need to be dropped.
Shafique and Shakeel deserve long run. They don't have technical flaws, they just need more games under their belt to gain confidence and experience.
 
His "friends" who are telling Babar not to step down a captain either are stupid or not his friends . Babar is wasting his talent and time by staying as captain.
 
he went back to domestic grinded it out and won his team qaid e azam trophy recently

Averages at 99.5 in first-class this season

Just someone had a bad stint it doesn't mean he's not going to improve
Don't judge players basis pak domestic. Players play on roadways, England scored 500 on day 1 of test cricket there.
 
Really? An overweight Sarfraz to do what? What's this obsession with grooming? This is an Plumbing apprenticeship. Look for a guy in the team that has something.
Because your babars and rizzu's are not capable of running a team. They need to go back to domestic and prove then selves just like how sarfaraz has done.

Maybe you missed out on babars and imams belly shoaib malik is much fitter

Going by your theory rohit sharma should be nowhere the Indian team as he's over weight too
 
Because your babars and rizzu's are not capable of running a team. They need to go back to domestic and prove then selves just like how sarfaraz has done.

Maybe you missed out on babars and imams belly shoaib malik is much fitter

Going by your theory rohit sharma should be nowhere the Indian team as he's over weight too
I think the flaw in your argument is that Safaraz has already had a go. Based on you logic, England struggled so they should bring back Morgan, who btw is World cup winner. We aren't going to be any better and may actually get worse. Riz is a better ODI player than Safraz. What happen to him? Do you drop him for a guy that has inferior statistics.
 
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Shafique and Shakeel deserve long run. They don't have technical flaws, they just need more games under their belt to gain confidence and experience.
Neither will win you games on a consistent basis. They are both solid players but lack the power to dominate when needed. The problem is that the alternatives are worse
 
I think the flaw in your argument is that Safaraz has already had a go. Based on you logic, England struggled so they should bring back Morgan, who btw is World cup winner. We aren't going to be any better and may actually get worse. Riz is a better ODI player than Safraz. What happen to him? Do you drop him for a guy that has inferior statistics. Do actually think before you some rubbish
Your riz isn't good enough for this setup
We need to get rid of this" tuk tuk till 40 over theory" and bring in someone who can change the mind set of the team and implement modern day cricket there is no one else other than sarfaraz
 
Your riz isn't good enough for this setup
We need to get rid of this" tuk tuk till 40 over theory" and bring in someone who can change the mind set of the team and implement modern day cricket there is no one else other than sarfaraz
What setup? I am not sure whether you have any idea about cricket and by the sounds of it you don't. But these were the best players PK could have picked, they just happened not to be very good. Not a single name suggested by people would have made any difference. Would having Safaraz as captain meant our spinners started to spin the ball, or SSA afridi bowling with intelligence and control, or stop Haris bowling absolute tripe. If the answer is no, then what are you talking about
 
Our cricket board is so weak lol…take control of the mess !!!

The players shouldn’t even be discussing about the captaincy…focus on your own role in the team.

PCB needs to act now, sack Babar and appoint a captain before the next ODI series.
 
Why team-mates?

The decision has to be his own surely.
 
What setup? I am not sure whether you have any idea about cricket and by the sounds of it you don't. But these were the best players PK could have picked, they just happened not to be very good. Not a single name suggested by people would have made any difference. Would having Safaraz as captain meant our spinners started to spin the ball, or SSA afridi bowling with intelligence and control, or stop Haris bowling absolute tripe. If the answer is no, then what are you talking about
By the sounds of it you don't have an idea what cricket is, its just not about bat ball and field there's more to it go find out what exactly is a captains role and then come back and argue with me. Just by bowling changes alot could have been different. You don't keep bowling the same bowler whose getting smashed for 25 runs an over and shifting momentum to the opposition.
 
What setup? I am not sure whether you have any idea about cricket and by the sounds of it you don't. But these were the best players PK could have picked, they just happened not to be very good. Not a single name suggested by people would have made any difference. Would having Safaraz as captain meant our spinners started to spin the ball, or SSA afridi bowling with intelligence and control, or stop Haris bowling absolute tripe. If the answer is no, then what are you talking about
So according you Shadab should be our vice captain and main spinner along with Nawaz is the 2nd spinner. Keep Imam as main opener along with Fakhar and Hasan is the 3rd pacer in the team. No need to change, These are all match winner and win you 2024 T20WC/2025 CT/2027 WC
 
Just resign Babar, spare yourself from this situation. Those endorsing your captaincy are not your genuine friends. Avoid any regrets by stepping away now.
 
Our cricket board is so weak lol…take control of the mess !!!

The players shouldn’t even be discussing about the captaincy…focus on your own role in the team.

PCB needs to act now, sack Babar and appoint a captain before the next ODI series.
What board ? When everyone's position is at risk including chairman, CS, coach, Captain then you don't call it board. They are bunch of idiots saving their seats.
 
So according you Shadab should be our vice captain and main spinner along with Nawaz is the 2nd spinner. Keep Imam as main opener along with Fakhar and Hasan is the 3rd pacer in the team. No need to change, These are all match winner and win you 2024 T20WC/2025 CT/2027 WC
Yes according to him because they are all players who were part of IK’s cricket revival vision
 
So according you Shadab should be our vice captain and main spinner along with Nawaz is the 2nd spinner. Keep Imam as main opener along with Fakhar and Hasan is the 3rd pacer in the team. No need to change, These are all match winner and win you 2024 T20WC/2025 CT/2027 WC
Read my posts on Shadab and Nawaz before saying according to you. You need to do some research on my views on PK spinners.
 
Yes according to him because they are all players who were part of IK’s cricket revival vision
If I am the boss I will ban whole team including Shaheen, Rizwan along with Babar. All these players are just play for money. They don't have any obligation to win match. These players play for fun.
 
By the sounds of it you don't have an idea what cricket is, its just not about bat ball and field there's more to it go find out what exactly is a captains role and then come back and argue with me. Just by bowling changes alot could have been different. You don't keep bowling the same bowler whose getting smashed for 25 runs an over and shifting momentum to the opposition.
So all we needed to do was to keep changing the bowling and all would have been fine. Just brilliant.
 
As Moin Khan said on a TV show, sacrifice is the main quality of a leader.

He gave example of Virat Kohli and highlighted how his performance increased after giving up captaincy.

Babar should follow in his footsteps.
 
What board ? When everyone's position is at risk including chairman, CS, coach, Captain then you don't call it board. They are bunch of idiots saving their seats.

True, the chairman isn’t going anywhere until the General Elections in February. He probably won’t want to risk upsetting Babar’s cult followers when he’s only got a couple of months left.
 
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