[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

[HARKS]

Correct. It shouldn't. But ICC is making it so.

Power is what power is to be. Those who wields that power will always see what good will do for them not for others.In this world power and money is everything if tommorow pakistan start to wield same power they will also behave in this or even worse manner.Same is true for all others in everything be it pakistan Miltary over their political leadership and it's people or USA or China in world issues. So stop whining always about this unjust or unfair bcz if not u will whine untill the end of ur life .

 

[zaidihusain]

In this whole CT fiasco, ICC and all other members except BCCI will be the losers. I believe ICC will permanently shut down in next 6-8 years and cricket which is already a dying sport in major part of the world will be played by few countries in individual capacity based on their own structure and financial condition. Ashes is played since many decades with lot of excitement and still both ECB & CA understands very well that they can't play each other forever. International cricket cannot prosper or even survive only with 3 teams, ENG, AUS & Ind.

PCB will surely have temporary losses, but they can still survive if they fix their domestic structure and quality of cricket. PCB has survived without international cricket at home for nearly 10 years, without playing Australia & NZ at home for around 20 years and without playing India at home since 2006. It would be blessing in disguise for PCB to politely withdraw from this drama and work on real areas of improvement. When the Pakistan cricket will improve, teams like AUS, ENG, NZ, SA will play more automatically which is already happening.

 

[Farabi]

All the things have been known to any one with common sense since July when these threads started.
1. India will not go to Pakistan.
2. Pakistan and PCB will do a lot of chest thumping and threats
3. Eventually it will be a hybrid model
4. PCB will threaten to boycott Asia Cup in India but nothing will happen, world will move on.

We are at step 2, Step 3 is incoming within next two months.

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

so basically no apparant reason ? India just randomly decided to not Play against pak . Thats your assessment... Correct?

I don't know if it's random or well thought out, I just know it's ridiculous. Though when you have an extremist ruling party then no doubt they'll do things to pander to the ultra nationalists

Sensible people will criticise it, the rabid nationalists will thump their chest and claim it's justified

 

[BouncerGuy]

Exactly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856268196317135337

 

[RidiculousMan]

A question for all Pakistani posters.

Pakistan all ex cricketer , journalist are telling PCB to boycott India and not go there to play even in ICC event's , thats fine

But can you ask them to Stop analysis every Indian matches on their YouTube channels?

90% ex players, journalist have own YouTube channels .

What do you think they will boycott to analysis indian matches ?

I do tell all to stop analysing on Indian games so much. But they like because of views and Indian audience also engage and have fun cause they make fun of Pakistan team players

 

[Shafi]

They kill our jawans so we won’t allow our team to travel to Pakistan or play a bilateral series.

But, we’re more than happy to play them in an ICC event outside of Pakistan even if it’s hosted by Pakistan because our support for our jawans is conditional.

It’s fun to watch some of these posters run away when it comes to their hypocrisy of playing Pakistan

How about your RAW killed many students to help Hasina in Bangladesh? Shouldn't those member need to be punished or Modi destroyed Babri Masjid for political reason along with riots. Shouldn't Modi punished first for killing his own people and people from Bangladesh, Monipur and Kashmir?

 

[Devadwal]

I do tell all to stop analysing on Indian games so much. But they like because of views and Indian audience also engage and have fun cause they make fun of Pakistan team players

Again you missed the main reason .they will not stop because they are earning the money .

They are suggesting pcb to boycott the icc events even PCB will lose money but when comes to own business they will not boycott indian matches analysis .

And all the Pakistani media are lying that India was signed the MPA( members participant agreement) when Pakistan allocated the champions trophy in 2021 .. ICC chief in 2022 told that India did not signed MPA agreement till that time

How shamelessly all the pakistani media channels are lying .lol

I can name all those journalists name who meet naqvi in Lahore where pcb chiefs orders them to spread fake news regarding pakistan will boycott ICC events in india if india is not coming to play champion trophy in pakistan .

 

[RidiculousMan]

Again you missed the main reason .they will not stop because they are earning the money .

They are suggesting pcb to boycott the icc events even PCB will lose money but when comes to own business they will not boycott indian matches analysis .

And all the Pakistani media are lying that India was signed the MPA( members participant agreement) when Pakistan allocated the champions trophy in 2021 .. ICC chief in 2022 told that India did not signed MPA agreement till that time

How shamelessly all the pakistani media channels are lying .lol

I can name all those journalists name who meet naqvi in Lahore where pcb chiefs orders them to spread fake news regarding pakistan will boycott ICC events in india if india is not coming to play champion trophy in pakistan .

I don't watch or like them either as a Pakistani

 

[zaidihusain]

One amusing thing in this whole episode is neither ICC nor BCCI is disclosing any information publicly about their plan. Chairman PCB is at least updating the media but the other 2 sides specially ICC doesn't have audacity to share updates. False narrative is being set through some journalists

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Again you missed the main reason .they will not stop because they are earning the money .

They are suggesting pcb to boycott the icc events even PCB will lose money but when comes to own business they will not boycott indian matches analysis .

And all the Pakistani media are lying that India was signed the MPA( members participant agreement) when Pakistan allocated the champions trophy in 2021 .. ICC chief in 2022 told that India did not signed MPA agreement till that time

How shamelessly all the pakistani media channels are lying .lol

I can name all those journalists name who meet naqvi in Lahore where pcb chiefs orders them to spread fake news regarding pakistan will boycott ICC events in india if india is not coming to play champion trophy in pakistan .

What's the big deal.

Your media should also extend the boycott of Pakistan rather than reporting on the remarks of their ex players.

If a Pakistani ex player even farts your media uploads a breaking news about it.

 

[Devadwal]

One amusing thing in this whole episode is neither ICC nor BCCI is disclosing any information publicly about their plan. Chairman PCB is at least updating the media but the other 2 sides specially ICC doesn't have audacity to share updates. False narrative is being set through some journalists like Vikrant Gupta or the likes of Akash Chopra for blackmailing.

India does not need to tell anything to PCB or Pakistan. they conveyed their message to ICC about indian team participation and clearly told them ,they will not send the indian team .same message ICC conveyed to PCB.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Pakistan is the host of the CT 2025. India has refused to travel. What can an honourable solution so that India also plays and Pakistan also doesn't lose face.

Throw India out isn't going to work because of the financial implications.

Removing Pakistan entirely as hosts will be unfair.

Its the Pakistan v india match that generates the revenue for the ICC aswell as all the other cricket boards.

If that match is removed the other boards and the ICC will be screwed.

The question is are the indian board prepared to cover all the costs to the other boards as well as the 3 billion contract that the broadcasters paid for Pakistan v india matches in ICC events.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Read what was my point.

Your 90% ex players has a youtube channel where they discussed everything related to indian cricket / matches

If they think india is doing wring with them than why they are discussing about Indian cricket just because they are earning money.

But this is not a case with most of Indian players.

They are just following the same pattern as India.

Hypocrisy model patented and trademarked by BCCI and GOI.

 

[gazza619]

Why should you decide what Pakistanis should do based on what I advise you?
That is Pakistan's problem where they want to go and do not want to go. Whether they show some ghairat and stop wasting time on those who do not want to come, or they want to keep whining , it is their choice.

Your advise does not matter. The purpose of this forum is to share opinions. We aim to be fair to all concerned parties.

 

[Devadwal]

They are just following the same pattern as India.

Hypocrisy model patented and trademarked by BCCI and GOI.

This is biggest hypocrisy .one hand they are advocating to boycott india vs pakistan matches in ICC event's but at the same time they are using indian cricket to earn the money. Lol

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This is biggest hypocrisy .one hand they are advocating to boycott india vs pakistan matches in ICC event's but at the same time they are using indian cricket to earn the money. Lol

Money just dont appear in bank accounts after mentioning India.

You guys have to click the video and watch it for them to make any money.

Stop watching them. Most of the Pakistanis ignore them anyway

 

[Devadwal]

Money just dont appear in bank accounts after mentioning India.

You guys have to click the video and watch it for them to make any money.

Stop watching them. Most of the Pakistanis ignore them anyway

Oh man how innocent you're. They were praised india non stop just to gets more views

Its not that hard to understand.

Even fox sports like big channels use indian cricket headlines in their YouTube channels even they discussed only 2 minutes about indian cricket out of 20 minutes. .

Recently Sky sports used virat Kohli picture in their cover photo along with all England players.

That's the values of Indian cricket markets

 

[Kianig89]

So Pakistan might opt out of CT, as per sources

 

[Devadwal]

So Pakistan might opt out of CT, as per sources

I know they ( PCB) are incompetent but not foolish to boycott champion trophy.

This is another fake news.

 

[zaidihusain]

India does not need to tell anything to PCB or Pakistan. they conveyed their message to ICC about indian team participation and clearly told them ,they will not send the indian team .same message ICC conveyed to PCB.

Why are you acting as a spokesman of BCCI on every post? You are responding on every random message with comments like "India does not need to tell", "India doesn not care about what Pakistan". It feels like you care more about Pakistan cricket than BCCI or ICC.

Anyways, that message should have been sent by BCCI to ICC when the tournament was awarded to Pakistan. Sending such message just 3 months before event is not only bluffing PCB & ICC, but they are also bluffing every other participating nation. We all know BCCI is the richest board, it can create its own ICC and organize its own CT without Pakistan. Why are they forcing to have hybrid model? They are free to organize any event without Pakistan

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Tbh I have realized one thing by going through this thread that Indian fans care more for BCCI repo than their own team.

 

[shah9425]

BCCI should opt out of tournament himself so other countries who have no problem visiting Pakistan can play champions trophy why the we should adopt hybrid model

 

[Devadwal]

Why are you acting as a spokesman of BCCI on every post? You are responding on every random message with comments like "India does not need to tell", "India doesn not care about what Pakistan". It feels like you care more about Pakistan cricket than BCCI or ICC.

Because BCCI is following official guidelines where they were needed to respond to ICC about their participation because it's ICC events and Pakistan just have only hosting rights

Anyways, that message should have been sent by BCCI to ICC when the tournament was awarded to Pakistan. Sending such message just 3 months before event is not only bluffing PCB & ICC,

When tournaments was awarded to Pakistan ,BCCI did not signed MPA ( Members participants agreement)

whenever any nation is participate in any ICC tournaments , its subject to government permission .

but they are also bluffing every other participating nation. We all know BCCI is the richest board, it can create its own ICC and organize its own CT without Pakistan. Why are they forcing to have hybrid model? They are free to organize any event without Pakistan

BCCI is not forcing but they have said that ,they can Play champion trophy but not in Pakistan as Government denied the permission. . Its upto ICC . They can organised without india or with india or any other options .

 

[mango_bite77]

This is biggest hypocrisy .one hand they are advocating to boycott india vs pakistan matches in ICC event's but at the same time they are using indian cricket to earn the money. Lol

Is YouTube accessible only to Indians? I don’t think anyone explicitly says that certain videos are exclusively for Indians, and others can simply switch to a different channel if they prefer.

As for analysis, they do cover other matches as well. India is one of the top teams, so it’s natural that any semi-competent YouTuber would choose to analyze their games—it’s nothing extraordinary.

By your logic, if they’re creating content to attract more Indian viewers and earn money, isn’t it equally ironic that Indian viewers are watching videos made by former Pakistani players on YouTube? Shouldn't indian viewers block them and ensure they don't let them earn money.

 

[shah9425]

Another fake propaganda by India media is flowing of South Africa as possible host

Don't believe it

 

[Rajdeep]

@Devadwal - if this becomes hybrid tournament, will India allow Pakistan written on their jersey being the host board or force to get it removed like they did in Asia cup?

 

[mango_bite77]

Another fake propaganda by India media is flowing of South Africa as possible host

Don't believe it

And this is coming from their so called top sports journalist (Not taking his name) who recently in his show was going through the comments section and suddenly ready something related to BGT which he didn't understand what it stands for, and suddenly realise 'Ohh this mean Bangladesh Team' .

Few years back he was trying to show some technical flaws of some top indian batter on set and the other guy asked him to get your frontfoot out, for which he responded 'Which One'.

Do you really think these pseudo FB journalists hold some value in the real media and people would believe such jokers ?

 

[Devadwal]

Is YouTube accessible only to Indians? I don’t think anyone explicitly says that certain videos are exclusively for Indians, and others can simply switch to a different channel if they prefer.

As for analysis, they do cover other matches as well. India is one of the top teams, so it’s natural that any semi-competent YouTuber would choose to analyze their games—it’s nothing extraordinary.

By your logic, if they’re creating content to attract more Indian viewers and earn money, isn’t it equally ironic that Indian viewers are watching videos made by former Pakistani players on YouTube? Shouldn't indian viewers block them and ensure they don't let them earn money.

This is kamran akmal channel . Now see all videos and where was he discussing Westindies vs England series , Afghanistan vs Bangladesh series ,NZ vs Sri Lanka series ? But he is discussing Every meaningless indian matches which indian fan's don't care or watched . He was even discussed IPL retention news. This is just one example .

This is how they explore indian cricket markets .

 

[shah9425]

And this is coming from their so called top sports journalist (Not taking his name) who recently in his show was going through the comments section and suddenly ready something related to BGT which he didn't understand what it stands for, and suddenly realise 'Ohh this mean Bangladesh Team' .

Few years back he was trying to show some technical flaws of some top indian batter on set and the other guy asked him to get your frontfoot out, for which he responded 'Which One'.

Do you really think these pseudo FB journalists hold some value in the real media and people would believe such jokers ?

Yeah he is threatening us of sanctions too
Bunch of jokers they are

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Oh man how innocent you're. They were praised india non stop just to gets more views

Its not that hard to understand.

Even fox sports like big channels use indian cricket headlines in their YouTube channels even they discussed only 2 minutes about indian cricket out of 20 minutes. .

Recently Sky sports used virat Kohli picture in their cover photo along with all England players.

That's the values of Indian cricket markets

That's fine.

But if you want the Pakistanis to stop making money then 1 billion Indians should stop watching them and allowing them to make money from the valuable Indian market.

 

[Devadwal]

@Devadwal - if this becomes hybrid tournament, will India allow Pakistan written on their jersey being the host board or force to get it removed like they did in Asia cup?

champion trophy will play in hybrid models. 100% confirm . The officialy announcement will come around Sunday.

It's ICC tournaments so i think Pakistan name will be written and I don't have any problem with that .this is not a issue.

 

[Rajdeep]

champion trophy will play in hybrid models. 100% confirm . The officialy announcement will come around Sunday.

It's ICC tournaments so i think Pakistan name will be written and I don't have any problem with that .this is not a issue.

Same thing was said before that its an ICC tournament and all teams including India have to travel. So lets not hide behind this ICC tournament excuse. We must continue our dadagiri and remove the name Pakistan from jerseys just like we did in last Asia cup and play our games in Dubai. The only thing BCCI must worry is we win most of the tosses in UAE and not let this tournament shifted to SA bcoz you never know if the ball seams a bit a lot can happen.

 

[Devadwal]

Same thing was said before that its an ICC tournament and all teams including India have to travel. So lets not hide behind this ICC tournament excuse. We must continue our dadagiri and remove the name Pakistan from jerseys just like we did in last Asia cup and play our games in Dubai. The only thing BCCI must worry is we win most of the tosses in UAE and not let this tournament shifted to SA bcoz you never know if the ball seams a bit a lot can happen.

Don't give more idea to Jay Shah please .

He is still not taken the charge of ICC chairman . with Jay shah anything can happen .

India vs pakistan in South Africa . We had more good memories than bad . 2003 World cup ,where Rawalpindi Express derailed by Sachin Tendulkar's . 2007 World T20 “In the air, Sreesanth takes it! India wins."

 

[Shafi]

Again you missed the main reason .they will not stop because they are earning the money .

They are suggesting pcb to boycott the icc events even PCB will lose money but when comes to own business they will not boycott indian matches analysis .

And all the Pakistani media are lying that India was signed the MPA( members participant agreement) when Pakistan allocated the champions trophy in 2021 .. ICC chief in 2022 told that India did not signed MPA agreement till that time

How shamelessly all the pakistani media channels are lying .lol

I can name all those journalists name who meet naqvi in Lahore where pcb chiefs orders them to spread fake news regarding pakistan will boycott ICC events in india if india is not coming to play champion trophy in pakistan .

Same thing was said before that its an ICC tournament and all teams including India have to travel. So lets not hide behind this ICC tournament excuse. We must continue our dadagiri and remove the name Pakistan from jerseys just like we did in last Asia cup and play our games in Dubai. The only thing BCCI must worry is we win most of the tosses in UAE and not let this tournament shifted to SA bcoz you never know if the ball seams a bit a lot can happen.

First of all you people need to put on trial for killing innocent people in Bangladesh, Kashmir, 7 sister, Ayodhya. A hypocrite talks like saints. A proper munafiq and evil people you are.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I think the BCCI is trapping the PCB again, similar to what happened during the IPL. In the second season, the PCB pulled all Pakistani players from the IPL, anticipating it would fail without them. However, the reality was, and remains, the opposite. By not playing against India in ICC events and boycotting them, the PCB risks ‘cutting off its own feet’ once again.”

Isn’t that BCCI ruled out the participation or signing of Pakistani players in IPL due to the 2008 incident in Mumbai ? And then only once Pakistani players went under the hammer but all franchises ignored that signing them is a waste because India will not give visa for the Pak players.

 

[Shafi]

When people talks on behalf of mass murderer and evil like Modi, no need to talk with them. These people don't have any principle and anything goes.

 

[zaidihusain]

Yeah he is threatening us of sanctions too
Bunch of jokers they are

If Pakistan decide to pull out, ICC under influence of BCCI can give some temporary warnings to PCB or may try to weaken Pakistan cricket by imposing temporary sanctions but it cannot ignore Pakistan cricket for more than a year.

Remember the clowns in ICC suspended Sri Lanka cricket board after WC 2023 which is one of the financially weakest cricket board due to so called political interference but only after few months the suspension was revoked. Same thing they did with Zimbabwe cricket several times and revoked the suspensions later.
The fact of the matter is international limited over cricket cannot survive without Pak, Bang & Ind.

 

[Devadwal]

Yeah he is threatening us of sanctions too
Bunch of jokers they are

Like PCB you don't know anything about ICC law . That was one the reason why PCB was lost a legal case against BCCI .

If pakistan boycott the champions trophy in which they have already signed two agreement with ICC.

Oh but you don't even know which was the two agreement they have signed .

 

[uppercut]

I don't know if it's random or well thought out, I just know it's ridiculous.

Does the Mumbai attacks of 26/11 ring a bell ? Do the names Dawood and Masood Azhar ring a bell ... I could go on and on.. its quite amazing how Pakistani posters stoutly believe that their country is a innocent white dove that never hurt anyone.

Though when you have an extremist ruling party then no doubt they'll do things to pander to the ultra nationalists

Sensible people will criticise it, the rabid nationalists will thump their chest and claim it's justified

Except that the policy to not play Pakistan was first implemented by the Congress party.


So those are the hard ugly facts. The proverbial elephant In the room that Pakistanis are very skillful in dodging.

 

[uppercut]

That's fine.

But if you want the Pakistanis to stop making money then 1 billion Indians should stop watching them and allowing them to make money from the valuable Indian market.

Do you see any Indian public pressure on BCCI or GoI to start playing matches with Pakistan?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

There are no winners in this dumb situation.
Hybrid will normalize the abysmal low level of cricket between India and Pakistan we get to see for more than a decade. India will not get to host Asia Cups, and Pakistan will not get to host Asia Cup either. Everytime the same cycle will repeat when ICC tournament happens in India, Pakistan crying and still coming to play while India getting the hybrid model.

On the flip side, absence of India from CT will give BCCI a blank cheque to turn on the screws on PCB completely. IPL will start skipping on any cricketer or past cricketer having association with PSL. and openly isolate PCB further.

All are bad situations for the cricket but that's the world we live in. Pakistan enjoyed using political boycotts of sports when it suited them but are now crying when at the receiving end. Its just and eye for an eye of international politics.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Do you see any Indian public pressure on BCCI or GoI to start playing matches with Pakistan?

His specific point was Pakistanis using India for YouTube views not anything to do with matches and that's the point I was replying to.

 

[Shafi]

Does the Mumbai attacks of 26/11 ring a bell ? Do the names Dawood and Masood Azhar ring a bell ... I could go on and on.. its quite amazing how Pakistani posters stoutly believe that their country is a innocent white dove that never hurt anyone.



Except that the policy to not play Pakistan was first implemented by the Congress party.


So those are the hard ugly facts. The proverbial elephant In the room that Pakistanis are very skillful in dodging.

How about killing thousands of students in Bangladesh, people in Kashmir, Muslims in Ayodhya......

 

[Shafi]

There are no winners in this dumb situation.
Hybrid will normalize the abysmal low level of cricket between India and Pakistan we get to see for more than a decade. India will not get to host Asia Cups, and Pakistan will not get to host Asia Cup either. Everytime the same cycle will repeat when ICC tournament happens in India, Pakistan crying and still coming to play while India getting the hybrid model.

On the flip side, absence of India from CT will give BCCI a blank cheque to turn on the screws on PCB completely. IPL will start skipping on any cricketer or past cricketer having association with PSL. and openly isolate PCB further.

All are bad situations for the cricket but that's the world we live in. Pakistan enjoyed using political boycotts of sports when it suited them but are now crying when at the receiving end. Its just and eye for an eye of international politics.

Is India more powerful than Russia or US?

 

[Shafi]

Like PCB you don't know anything about ICC law . That was one the reason why PCB was lost a legal case against BCCI .

If pakistan boycott the champions trophy in which they have already signed two agreement with ICC.

Oh but you don't even know which was the two agreement they have signed .

So BCCI can break as many laws as they want. Right???

 

[Major]

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Like PCB you don't know anything about ICC law . That was one the reason why PCB was lost a legal case against BCCI .

If pakistan boycott the champions trophy in which they have already signed two agreement with ICC.

Oh but you don't even know which was the two agreement they have signed .

lol are you BCCI's lawyer?

 

[uppercut]

His specific point was Pakistanis using India for YouTube views not anything to do with matches and that's the point I was replying to.

Yes but that does not mean that Indian public is desperate to see Ind play Pakistan which was the larger point.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Exactly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856268196317135337

But Pakistan is allowed to use politics?

Its the Pakistan v india match that generates the revenue for the ICC aswell as all the other cricket boards.

If that match is removed the other boards and the ICC will be screwed.

The question is are the indian board prepared to cover all the costs to the other boards as well as the 3 billion contract that the broadcasters paid for Pakistan v india matches in ICC events.

That's false. ICC doesn't sell India Pakistan match as some separate pkg.

Broadcaster in this case Star, paid $3bn for India territory. That means they have the right to telecast all ICC matches in India.

No one paid 3bn for India Pakistan matches.

 

[Shafi]

You are saying Indians were behind the recent bd violence ?

Kashmir : who was responsible for the exodus and mass murder of Kashmiri Pandits ?


Ayodhya: why was the mosque standing right on top of a temple with the Pillars from the temple reused inside the mosque ? You expect Hindus to pretend nothing wrong with that?

Spain was supposed to be a Muslim Country 1000 years ago. By your logic should Muslim conquer them. Pathetic logic. India is behind every violence in S Asia. No wonder no S Asian country including Nepal don't like India.
Yes India was openly responsible in BD student killing. There is no many evidence with that. You cannot expect put fire on other country and live peaceful life. Karma will get you.
Even in Western World India is known to be a dirty country.

 

[Rana]

d
lol are you BCCI's lawyer?

Are you Misbah’s lawyer?

 

[Devadwal]

d
lol are you BCCI's lawyer?

This is your counter answer? Lol

 

[Rajdeep]

There is no way CT can happen without India. I was listening to this famous front foot wala journalist and he was saying Broadcasters were keen to have this tournament in T20 format as it brings in more money. However, since Virat and Rohit retired from T20Is, they agreed to keep it in ODI format as broadcasters wanted to have Indian star players playing in it. In a situation like this it is naïve to think Star Sports will agree to broadcast this tournament without India. I understand it is unfair to Pak fans and PCB but they should bite the bullet and accept the hybrid model. They can however take the call later what they are willing do for WT20 2026.

 

[sam_ahm]

I don't think ICC can forcefully move this out of Pakistan without any fault of their own. If they do it I don't know how other teams are going to take it.

The ICC would have got very good broadcasting money for broadcast rights in India and they cannot ignore that and push India out of the tournament. In fact even if BCCI propose opting out, the ICC would want them to play.

While the PCB are not at fault and it is very very harsh on them, they need to be sensible here and agree to the hybrid model. Letting go of the CT would mean giving up on all the money that host nation would get for such a prestigious tournament. Moreover this is the first time Pakistan will get to host an ICC even after 1996 WC, so it is a huge opportunity to showcase themselves as a good host to bid for future ICC events.

It is about acting smart. I don't think ICC can afford to have an event without India and I don't think PCB can afford to lose all the money + a golden opportunity to host an ICC event.

Hybrid model is a win win for India, Pak and ICC.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Does the Mumbai attacks of 26/11 ring a bell ? Do the names Dawood and Masood Azhar ring a bell ... I could go on and on.. its quite amazing how Pakistani posters stoutly believe that their country is a innocent white dove that never hurt anyone.



Except that the policy to not play Pakistan was first implemented by the Congress party.


So those are the hard ugly facts. The proverbial elephant In the room that Pakistanis are very skillful in dodging.

So answer this, why have other Indians managed to travel? Do you not care for them? Or is it because cricket is high profile and this is as I suspect pandering to the ultra nationalists?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes but that does not mean that Indian public is desperate to see Ind play Pakistan which was the larger point.

Who are those people inflating the TV value of Pakistan and India matches to star sports? Who are the people inflating the youtube figures of these Pakistani ex-players? If its not the Indian public is it aliens? Illegal Bangladeshi Migrants?

For instance, the India-Pakistan clash during the 2023 World Cup drew an unprecedented 173 million viewers on Indian television alone, with an additional 225 million digital viewers worldwide. Similarly, the 2021 T20 World Cup face-off between the two sides attracted 167 million viewers, marking an engagement level of 15.9 billion minutes in India. The potential absence of such high-stakes encounters could lead to a substantial drop in ICC’s revenue from broadcast rights and sponsorship deals, endangering its financial ecosystem.

 

[Devadwal]

Who are those people inflating the TV value of Pakistan and India matches to star sports? Who are the people inflating the youtube figures of these Pakistani ex-players? If its not the Indian public is it aliens? Illegal Bangladeshi Migrants?

For instance, the India-Pakistan clash during the 2023 World Cup drew an unprecedented 173 million viewers on Indian television alone, with an additional 225 million digital viewers worldwide. Similarly, the 2021 T20 World Cup face-off between the two sides attracted 167 million viewers, marking an engagement level of 15.9 billion minutes in India. The potential absence of such high-stakes encounters could lead to a substantial drop in ICC’s revenue from broadcast rights and sponsorship deals, endangering its financial ecosystem.

World cup 2023 Peak concurrent viewers( Source ICC)

India vs pakistan match was not in top 5 .this is show Indian fans doesn't care much these days compared to earlier about India- Pakistan matches.

This is when we are not Playing regularly like other's team

 

[DeadlyVenom]

World cup 2023 Peak concurrent viewers( Source ICC)

India vs pakistan match was not in top 5 .this is show Indian fans doesn't care much these days compared to earlier about India- Pakistan matches.

This is when we are not Playing regularly like other's team

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this is stats for digital peak concurrency on hotstar + streaming not overall viewers. Please post the correct stats with context.

According to BARC data, India vs Pakistan match attracted 173 million TV viewers on the Disney Star network and Doordarshan, whereas 225 million viewers watched the match digitally on Disney+ Hotstar. The match had 76 million peak concurrencies on TV, whereas on digital, the peak concurrency was 35 million. The subcontinent rivals played on October 14 in Ahmedabad. Media buyers say that the combined reach of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup will set new benchmarks, even though the drop in TV reac ..

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Shafi]

So answer this, why have other Indians managed to travel? Do you not care for them? Or is it because cricket is high profile and this is as I suspect pandering to the ultra nationalists?

No point of arguing with them. They only respect money whether the person is good or bad. They don't care blind people or female as they don't have money like Kohli, Rohit...

 

[Shafi]

this is stats for digital peak concurrency on hotstar + streaming not overall viewers. Please post the correct stats with context.

According to BARC data, India vs Pakistan match attracted 173 million TV viewers on the Disney Star network and Doordarshan, whereas 225 million viewers watched the match digitally on Disney+ Hotstar. The match had 76 million peak concurrencies on TV, whereas on digital, the peak concurrency was 35 million. The subcontinent rivals played on October 14 in Ahmedabad. Media buyers say that the combined reach of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup will set new benchmarks, even though the drop in TV reac ..

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

No point to discuss with them. They only support people whom has money

 

[Devadwal]

this is stats for digital peak concurrency on hotstar + streaming not overall viewers. Please post the correct stats with context.

According to BARC data, India vs Pakistan match attracted 173 million TV viewers on the Disney Star network and Doordarshan, whereas 225 million viewers watched the match digitally on Disney+ Hotstar. The match had 76 million peak concurrencies on TV, whereas on digital, the peak concurrency was 35 million. The subcontinent rivals played on October 14 in Ahmedabad. Media buyers say that the combined reach of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup will set new benchmarks, even though the drop in TV reac ..

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

You can read yourself and draw the line.

World Cup 2023 smashes broadcast and digital records

www.icc-cricket.com

 

[sweep_shot]

So answer this, why have other Indians managed to travel? Do you not care for them? Or is it because cricket is high profile and this is as I suspect pandering to the ultra nationalists?

No point of arguing with them. They only respect money whether the person is good or bad. They don't care blind people or female as they don't have money like Kohli, Rohit...

Some of these Indians are all about gimmicks. Pretentious people.

They are not consistent in their logics/arguments.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You can read yourself and draw the line.

World Cup 2023 smashes broadcast and digital records

www.icc-cricket.com

I have read and drawn the line and explained the stats to you.

You have chosen to close your eyes again.

173 million Indians watched the match. Countless others watch the YouTube videos of every Pakistani ex player. Your media reports about Pak cricket 24/7.

BuT wE dOnT cArE aBouT PaKisTan.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No point to discuss with them. They only support people whom has money

Money shouldn't get away from facts.

Why the hell are they sitting Infront of the TV watching matches paying big money for rights and then lecturing us that nobody cares?

 

[Devadwal]

I have read and drawn the line and explained the stats to you.

You have chosen to close your eyes again.

173 million Indians watched the match. Countless others watch the YouTube videos of every Pakistani ex player. Your media reports about Pak cricket 24/7.

BuT wE dOnT cArE aBouT PaKisTan.

The World Cup final between India and Australia was watched by 300 million people

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Is India more powerful than Russia or US?

In cricketing World business ... YES!

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The World Cup final between India and Australia was watched by 300 million people

And?

Does it mean the figure between Pakistan and India is a nothing figure?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

And?

Does it mean the figure between Pakistan and India is a nothing figure?

India Pakistan match is still a prime match. Its one of the prime matches not THE PRIME MATCH that Pakistanis are still believing it to be. Times have changed and the viewership numbers directly reflect that. I don't understand how hard it is to grasp that.

India Pak viewership was half of the final. Even other group matches were more watched. Its not the 90s that India-Pakistan matches meant empty city streets.

 

[uppercut]

So answer this, why have other Indians managed to travel? Do you not care for them? Or is it because cricket is high profile and this is as I suspect pandering to the ultra nationalists?

Yes I agree ... ideally there should be ZERO trade or any sports/cultural relationship with Pakistani establishment which is a well known rogue entity.

 

[uppercut]

Spain was supposed to be a Muslim Country 1000 years ago. By your logic should Muslim conquer them. Pathetic logic.

Did I talk about conquering Afg or Pakistan which were Hindu lands once upon a time ? We are talking about Ram temple. So why was that temple destroyed and why are Muslims ok with a Mosque that stands on one of the most holiest sites ?

India is behind every violence in S Asia. No wonder no S Asian country including Nepal don't like India.
Yes India was openly responsible in BD student killing. There is no many evidence with that. You cannot expect put fire on other country and live peaceful life. Karma will get you.
Even in Western World India is known to be a dirty country.

Intersting .... so why are the worlds most wanted criminals residing in Pakistan ? open a thread on timepass section and I will properly answer your questions without my posts getting deleted due to offtopic.

 

[shah9425]

There is no way CT can happen without India. I was listening to this famous front foot wala journalist and he was saying Broadcasters were keen to have this tournament in T20 format as it brings in more money. However, since Virat and Rohit retired from T20Is, they agreed to keep it in ODI format as broadcasters wanted to have Indian star players playing in it. In a situation like this it is naïve to think Star Sports will agree to broadcast this tournament without India. I understand it is unfair to Pak fans and PCB but they should bite the bullet and accept the hybrid model. They can however take the call later what they are willing do for WT20 2026.

Yeah everytime we have to bite the bullet

Just great isn't it

 

[Shafi]

Some of these Indians are all about gimmicks. Pretentious people.

They are not consistent in their logics/arguments.

Exactly!!!!!!

 

[Shafi]

Did I talk about conquering Afg or Pakistan which were Hindu lands once upon a time ? We are talking about Ram temple. So why was that temple destroyed and why are Muslims ok with a Mosque that stands on one of the most holiest sites ?



Intersting .... so why are the worlds most wanted criminals residing in Pakistan ? open a thread on timepass section and I will properly answer your questions without my posts getting deleted due to offtopic.

Yeah right!!! First religion was Islam as we don't come from monkey or evolution.
Plz answer why Indian RAW killed Bangladeshi students for Hasina?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India Pakistan match is still a prime match. Its one of the prime matches not THE PRIME MATCH that Pakistanis are still believing it to be. Times have changed and the viewership numbers directly reflect that. I don't understand how hard it is to grasp that.

India Pak viewership was half of the final. Even other group matches were more watched. Its not the 90s that India-Pakistan matches meant empty city streets.

100 of millions watch it.

Star Sports etc pay big money solely because of it

Your media ramps it coverage up.

So please spare us these lectures with half cooked stats and tales about empty streets etc. You should relay these information to the TV rights bidders because they are clearly paying over the top for an empty event based on what you are saying.

 

[Devadwal]

And?

Does it mean the figure between Pakistan and India is a nothing figure?

This means india - Pakistan match is not biggest match of the World cup.

Pakistan media is regularly repeat that sentence .

Btw show me a single pakistan matches apart from india which was comes in Top 5 viewership in any ICC event's.

 

[Devadwal]

Some of these Indians are all about gimmicks. Pretentious people.

They are not consistent in their logics/arguments.

Dont describe yourself.

Before WT20 2024 ,your rankings of ICC event was
ODi World cup > ICC world T20 > Champion trophy> WTC

After WT20 2024 ( Because india win)

Odi World cup > WTC > Champion Trophy > Icc World T20

This is how you're inconsistent in your view.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This means india - Pakistan match is not biggest match of the World cup.

Pakistan media is regularly repeat that sentence .

Btw show me a single pakistan matches apart from india which was comes in Top 5 viewership in any ICC event's.

It shows that the world cup final and semi final is bigger than India Pak matches.

But since there is no certainty India will play in these matches the TV rights broadcasters and sponsors mandate that there is an India Pakistan match in the group stage as that will also get a large audience in India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It shows that the world cup final and semi final is bigger than India Pak matches.

But since there is no certainty India will play in these matches the TV rights broadcasters and sponsors mandate that there is an India Pakistan match in the group stage as that will also get a large audience in India.

India Australia matches regularly outstrip Indo Pak matches.

 

[Local.Dada]

A lot of blood pressure is being raised and a lot of word salad that will go no where.

Let me simplify.

India won’t travel to Pak citing security concerns. Doesn’t matter if you think it’s false or truth, that’s a clause exists for ICC and India has invoked it.

Pak has 2 options if they don’t want India-
Option 1- Move ahead with the team next in line- if you think it’s practical you live in a delulu world. This won’t happen even more because India has not refused to play CT, they refused to travel to Pak- 2 different things.

Option 2- Let India forfeit and give the other team a walkover. However that would mean no games on scheduled day, gaps in broadcasting and extra expenses incurred for logistics- That is not even an option but just to cover the bases.

Conclusion. Best case of scenario.

Hybrid Model- have some marquee games like Pak vs SENA countries or big games like Aus vs Eng etc. pull them off successfully and raise Pakistans profile, take the money compensated for hybrid model, let India play in UAE and claim the entire success of the tournament and set their narrative.

If not tournament will be moved away- everyone will be happy except Pak and either they have to suck up their pride and play it anyways or miss out on international cricket.

That’s the truth. Everything else is rhetoric and a mid aligning fest I don’t have interest in.

 

[emranabbas]

This means india - Pakistan match is not biggest match of the World cup.

Pakistan media is regularly repeat that sentence .

Btw show me a single pakistan matches apart from india which was comes in Top 5 viewership in any ICC event's.

Silly argument indias population is six times bigger than pakistans obviously there is going to be more viewership from India. Do they not teach you simple maths in india?