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Press Trust of India"Take it or leave it " effect, PCB is ready to accept the hybrid model, official confirmation awaiting ।
Shame on Naqvi if true."Take it or leave it " effect, PCB is ready to accept the hybrid model, official confirmation awaiting ।
Pakistan is welcome to not send the team to India.Press Trust of India
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Pakistan Cricket Board willing to accept a Hybrid Model for next year’s Champions Trophy and play India in Dubai if ICC implements the same policy for all its events going till 2031: PCB source to PTI.
Wouldn’t the logic of the PCB’s position be that they are forced to accept the hybrid model because of decisions and forces outside their control….but they will boycott the India game (in Dubai or wherever) asthey see no reason for Pakistan to play there.Press Trust of India
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Pakistan Cricket Board willing to accept a Hybrid Model for next year’s Champions Trophy and play India in Dubai if ICC implements the same policy for all its events going till 2031: PCB source to PTI.
Nice spin but there is no win for Pakistan here. You don't come and no hybrid will happen for India hosted tournaments. What do you think of BCCI lol.. they will never agree to this. Pakistan can skip those tournaments.As long as PCB can get it legal writing ICC will implement the same method in all future ICC events in India. It's a win for Pakistan
They don't come here. We don't go there.
That is what Naqvi asked to make Pakistan audiance Happy to find a way so he can came out of this embarrassments( We will nost accept the hybrid model no matter what) but there will be no written documents .win - win situation for all the party.Press Trust of India
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Pakistan Cricket Board willing to accept a Hybrid Model for next year’s Champions Trophy and play India in Dubai if ICC implements the same policy for all its events going till 2031: PCB source to PTI.
Broadcasters will not cross BCCI and GoI. Case in point: Haroon Lorgat and CSA.
You are overestimating BCCI efficiency. Indians don’t have experience in using power effectively across international institutions.
i would have agreed if Pak economy wasn’t in perilous state. My reading is currently Pak needs money from wherever it can and it will bow down to BCCIs demands. S Jaishankar was at M Amarnaths book event yesterday(surprisingly), but he hinted at India’s position vis a vis Pakistan cricket and otherwise.
All governments will use all means necessary to maintain it’s strategic superiority. French intelligence was infamous for economic espionage and would bug Air France flights. CIA famously taped all phones of all NATO leaders.
It is wrong to expect cricket to not be a proxy like @rpant_gabba mentioned.
Apologies, as I have gone into opinions/speculation mode in the reply.
Nice spin but there is no win for Pakistan here. You don't come and no hybrid will happen for India hosted tournaments. What do you think of BCCI lol.. they will never agree to this. Pakistan can skip those tournaments.
I already explained.there will be no written documents of hybrid model for india hosting ICC tournaments.Nice spin but there is no win for Pakistan here. You don't come and no hybrid will happen for India hosted tournaments. What do you think of BCCI lol.. they will never agree to this. Pakistan can skip those tournaments.
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Pakistan Cricket Board willing to accept a Hybrid Model for next year’s Champions Trophy and play India in Dubai if ICC implements the same policy for all its events going till 2031: PCB source to PTI.
This will be a defeat for Pakistan if it happens. Obviously ICC will say yes now but during the time of tournament they want all India games, play offs and finals in India.
i would really like to know which handouts PCB got from ICC? this is beyond hilarious that posters like you have this dumb notion. Forget what ramiz said. PCB gets its due share and participates in one of the most lucrative icc game in each tournament. Melbourne Game was blockbuster beyond Imagination of Aussies who were even ready to host Pak Ind bilaterals at thought of that. PCB gets 5.75% share.. its called share for a reason. when you say handout , it means ICC is giving free money to PCB. BCCI generates 80% Revenue and gets its due for half of it because there is always another team that plays with India , they all deserve piece of the Cake.BCCI has reserves of 2.5 Billion USD plus. PCB depends on handouts from ICC. Refer to your ex-chairman Ramiz.
Pakistan and PCB is begging ICC currently to get CT hosted. That is why Naqvi is in UAE physically for a meeting which is virtual. No one from ICC met him. Poor guy met the UAE cricket board head for some photo ops.
Remember, We still don't care and Indian team will not set foot on Pakistani soil.
Let's wait for the official announcement I'm sure Naqvi wouldn't have agreed to hybrid model without anything in legal writing.
He can take in writing whatever he wants but India will never play its matches (hosted by it) on foreign soil.Let's wait for the official announcement I'm sure Naqvi wouldn't have agreed to hybrid model without anything in legal writing.
He can take in writing whatever he wants but India will never play its matches (hosted by it) on foreign soil.
The broadcaster leverage pcb has now won't be there then
As per reports:
Naqvi will only accept hybrid model if Bumras action is tested!
again delusions. India does nt fund anything .. Broadcasters do..and every full member gets it due after playing the tournament. and some of it goes as development fund for associates. why should nt pcb take money from icc? ICC is making money by organising a tournament in which teams participates. if it was all Indian teams then you could say its BcCi money.India funds Pakistan Cricket. Ramiz Raja has admitted that clearly. So the day Modi decides to kill the funding, PCB will run dry and cry more.
So, just follow the master to make money. If PCB does not like it, don't take the money from ICC.
Simple really. Pakistan does not have to take this money. Indian Cricket Team is not setting foot on Pakistani soil.
Most broadcasters are Indianagain delusions. India does nt fund anything .. Broadcasters do..and every full member gets it due after playing the tournament. and some of it goes as development fund for associates. why should nt pcb take money from icc? ICC is making money by organising a tournament in which teams participates. if it was all Indian teams then you could say its BcCi money.
a lot of you call it handouts from icc to full members. thats hilarious. so India generates 80% and gets 38.5% thats half of it and its logically correct because its Ind Vs other teams. Other teams get the rest of 40% divided among them. whats unfair?Most broadcasters are Indian
Yes I agree all boards deserve the revenue, but not equally. BCCI takes less than it brings to the table compared to other boards.
Ofcourse it does not do that because its a charitable organisation but because it wants some powers and privileges over others.
Doesn't seem too unfair.
Yup its not charity. But since its not charity BCCI gets some privileges over others.a lot of you call it handouts from icc to full members. thats hilarious. so India generates 80% and gets 38.5% thats half of it and its logically correct because its Ind Vs other teams. Other teams get the rest of 40% divided among them. whats unfair?
Broadcasters are Indian sure but they fund the games where India plays other International teams and they make profit. its not some charity
… the ICC’s $US3 billion broadcast partner Star is chasing a discount of up to 50 per cent of that fee - The Age Australia
why call it handout to pcb then? lot of Indians wrongly think that.. they talk like its some kind of favor from bcci to pcbYup its not charity. But since its not charity BCCI gets some privileges over others.
So should not call it unfair.
This was from a few months ago.
No wonder the ICC is stuck in a tight spot. Anything other than what’s promised will lead to renegotiations.
It is a handout. The broadcasters, administrators, sponsors are all primarily Indian. Pakistan gets a good cut on BCCi’s discretion as Ind-Pak is a money spinner. Yes Pak has a share in it but how much is decided by BCCI on what they think is Pakistan’s worth. Not demeaning PCB but that’s a harsh truth. Aus, Eng can survive on their own, Pakistani cannot survive without ICC funding which is primarily funded by BCCI. Technically PCB should be the 2nd richest board, but is not. You are barking at the wrong tree here, you need to ask them why they are incompetent.why call it handout to pcb then? lot of Indians wrongly think that.. they talk like its some kind of favor from bcci to pcb
Funny coming from a clown whose country was sheltering bin ladenJust leave India, walk away if you have the backbone, we do not want your terrorist backed board anywhere near Pakistan.
They call it hand outs when you guys start crying unfair icc, bcci = iccwhy call it handout to pcb then? lot of Indians wrongly think that.. they talk like its some kind of favor from bcci to pcb
Look at the hypocrisy and arrogance here. The BCCI refuses to agree to a hybrid model, yet expects the PCB to comply simply because of its power and ability to exert pressure.Nice spin but there is no win for Pakistan here. You don't come and no hybrid will happen for India hosted tournaments. What do you think of BCCI lol.. they will never agree to this. Pakistan can skip those tournaments.
These are the same people who constantly complain about injustice in their daily lives in India, with some even leaving the country for that very reason. Yet, when it comes to situations like this, they suddenly adopt the guise of patriotic Indians.It is often said that every cloud has a silver lining, well I hope you can all see, even the Indian members who claim to be objective and care only about cricket, have proven to members of the Hindutva cult with their daily spiel.
Flush the cult members all out.
lol again. handout is free money. Share is not. Ind-Pak is money spinner. India does nt play with spirits .. there is an opposition team out there. Broadcasters , Sponsors nationality is nt the issue.. they are not handing out charities because BCCi is asking them to. its a business model intended to make profit for them. How pak survives is not the question here. idea that BCCI is giving handout is wrong.. PCB gets what it plays for. who decides the share? Its ICC that did. India gets its fair share too. if 80% money comes from Indian Games , then BCCI gets half of it already. ICC is primarily funded by Broadcasters deal for tournament in which teams play . how hard it is for Indians to understandIt is a handout. The broadcasters, administrators, sponsors are all primarily Indian. Pakistan gets a good cut on BCCi’s discretion as Ind-Pak is a money spinner. Yes Pak has a share in it but how much is decided by BCCI on what they think is Pakistan’s worth. Not demeaning PCB but that’s a harsh truth. Aus, Eng can survive on their own, Pakistani cannot survive without ICC funding which is primarily funded by BCCI. Technically PCB should be the 2nd richest board, but is not. You are barking at the wrong tree here, you need to ask them why they are incompetent.
no they call it handout because in their Mind its charity to pcb from bcciThey call it hand outs when you guys start crying unfair icc, bcci = icc
Yup. I really miss the genuine Indian fans on PP and I feel sorry for them because they are unfortunately being tarred by the same Saffronis brush. Yes there were some heated debates but never did discussion steer towards politics, and that too, Hindutva.These are the same people who constantly complain about injustice in their daily lives in India, with some even leaving the country for that very reason. Yet, when it comes to situations like this, they suddenly adopt the guise of patriotic Indians.
Let them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.no they call it handout because in their Mind its charity to pcb from bcci
yeah BcCi should just arrange ranji Trophy and ask Broadcasters to pay Billions of $ for it since its BcCi money anyway in eyes of Indian PostersLet them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.
What's your source? Reports? What reports? India toilet media?As per reports:
Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.
If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.
Says the supporter of a team who lost to Bangladesh at homeMove the tournament to India, let them get humilated at home again.
They already have allowed Aussies (ODI world cup) and New Zealand (test series) to pull their pants down recently
So might as well make it a 3rd special occasion
India has exposed their Achilles heel!Let them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.
And then beat England at homeSays the supporter of a team who lost to Bangladesh at home
But they do play among themselves, it's called the IPL, and it's accounts are dwindling.Let them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.
Speak for yourself, there's a thread on how Indian superstars will be treated like Kings if they choose to tour the country. Majority of your media and awaam cant wait to see Bhartiya Cricketers playing in Pakistan.Just leave India, walk away if you have the backbone, we do not want your terrorist backed board anywhere near Pakistan.
Ipl ahemLet them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.
Unpredictable Pakistan.And then beat England at home
What about your claim of final being in pak?It’s been 24 hours what happened to the reports about Pakistan being removed from the Champions Trophy if they didn’t agree to the hybrid model?
Told you then and their it's another one of indian fantasies, they so begairat after being humiliated they come back for more humiliation
It called the Stockholm syndrome. Hindutva cult are in love with their capturers, past and present, mind, body, and soul.It’s been 24 hours what happened to the reports about Pakistan being removed from the Champions Trophy if they didn’t agree to the hybrid model?
Told you then and their it's another one of indian fantasies, they so begairat after being humiliated they come back for more humiliation
Foreign players ahemIpl ahem
Final is still in Pakistan. So is the rest of champions trophy pakistan have not agreed to hybrid modelWhat about your claim of final being in pak?
Even IPL is lucrative because of foreign players involvement. By logic of Indians posters here , BCCI is also giving handouts to IPL franchise owners because Broadcasters and sponsors Indian and by that Extension its BCCi money lolBut they do play among themselves, it's called the IPL, and it's accounts are dwindling.
I wonder what happened to the planned 2nd season in Amreeka? Oh my bad, visa issues!
Indeed, the international retirement league. IPL is nothing without foreign players. It's where international rejects go for one final hurrah.Even IPL is lucrative because of foreign players involvement. By logic of Indians posters here , BCCI is also giving handouts to IPL franchise owners because Broadcasters and sponsors Indian and by that Extension its BCCi money lol
lol again. handout is free money. Share is not. Ind-Pak is money spinner. India does nt play with spirits .. there is an opposition team out there. Broadcasters , Sponsors nationality is nt the issue.. they are not handing out charities because BCCi is asking them to. its a business model intended to make profit for them. How pak survives is not the question here. idea that BCCI is giving handout is wrong.. PCB gets what it plays for. who decides the share? Its ICC that did. India gets its fair share too. if 80% money comes from Indian Games , then BCCI gets half of it already. ICC is primarily funded by Broadcasters deal for tournament in which teams play . how hard it is for Indians to understand
IPL is played among ourselves (Indians) and it makes as much money if not more as ICC tournaments.Let them play among themselves and see how much the broadcasters and sponsors are willing to pay. Sponsors and broadcasters are already struggling due to the absence of an India vs. Pakistan match.
Without foreign players?IPL is played among ourselves (Indians) and it makes as much money if not more as ICC tournaments.
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Pakistan Cricket Board willing to accept a Hybrid Model for next year’s Champions Trophy and play India in Dubai if ICC implements the same policy for all its events going till 2031: PCB source to PTI.
Why won't they come ?Foreign players ahem
Do IPL hire every foreign player? Only the best or the ones that have worth if they have value. It’s a business transaction, no one is doing anyone a favor. if you are not the best you don’t get hired. The qualification is not foreigner, it’s the quality of the player.Without foreign players?
Point is your still depending on foreign players to make moneyWhy won't they come ?
going on a rant here completely missing the point of argument which is that all members get their fair share of piece of cake that is broadcaster’s deal with ICC.. they all participate and play for Broadcasters to show something on TV and make ad revenue. there is no concept of charity and handout here.I don’t know what’s so complicated here. ok let me understand this so basically if I had to summarize what you are saying:
India makes money from all other games and makes lot more from Pak game. India has its fair share but Pak also has value. I got that correct right?
Ok now look at this way- BCCI’s biggest money spinner is the IPL which has 0
Pak involvement.
Now in international cricket, if India can take a hit not playing Pakistan, it’s a big loss but what about Pakistan? It doesn’t even have a proper broadcaster for Pak-Zim series etc and have sponsors like Tapal chai. Good luck sustaining by antagonizing India.
Looks like the biggest issues with Pakistanis are they are interested to bash India than to self-introspect why their board is in the hole it is.
You have no domestic structure, proper stadiums or even proper management of getting sponsors, broadcasting etc despite being the 2nd biggest market. So thank India for keeping you afloat despite all the issues PCB has by cutting them a Cheque.
Agreed 2017 was indeed a humiliation, to lose to a team like Pakistan was just pathetic and it's unlikely Indian will get a chance at revenge against Pakistan in an ICC finals because it is unlikely Pakistan will make it to an ICC finals.Indeed, the international retirement league. IPL is nothing without foreign players. It's where international rejects go for one final hurrah.
We know IPL doesn't improve standards, Pakistan whooped India in 2017, and after Australia made an example of India in India in 2023.
Humiliation all round in ICC finals!
They will come but the point is Pkaistanis are not needed.Point is your still depending on foreign players to make money
Ofcourse they will comeWithout foreign players?
So what's the issue? My point is a lot of money can still be made without pakistanPoint is your still depending on foreign players to make money
Ofcourse they will come
So what's the issue? My point is a lot of money can still be made without pakistan
But foreign countries are with bcci so again what's your point? Just speculation? Imaginary hapiness?The discussion was about India bring in 80 percent of the revenue but would they if they played against then selves without any involvement of foreign countries and your blabbering about some next stuff
So India have to play other countries to generate revenue thank you very much.But foreign countries are with bcci so again what's your point? Just speculation? Imaginary hapiness?
Oh bhai what world you living pakistan have not agreed to hybrid model just noise from india mediaOne good thing is next time, BCCI and ICC will come up with checks and balances to avoid such nuisance. That’s one real good thing:
Yeah Naqvi has done exactly what was expected of him, sold himself for money.As per reports:
The Pakistan Cricket Board is likely to accept the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy only on two conditions: if the ICC agrees to increase their share in the revenue model and retains the hybrid model for ICC events hosted by India until 2031
This is nothing new that was his stance from the beginning. The Indians just got to know about it now and it's become a reportAs per reports:
The Pakistan Cricket Board is likely to accept the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy only on two conditions: if the ICC agrees to increase their share in the revenue model and retains the hybrid model for ICC events hosted by India until 2031