[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

The same Rashid Latif who tweeted that PCB has accepted the hybrid model? Then I wonder why Naqvi did the opposite and ended the meeting within 15 minutes. 😂
Becouse he didn't have any answer when all the other boards were side with icc/ BCCI.

He asked for 24 hour so meeting was ended. No time wasted by icc. :kp
 
You don't need to explain anything

Your not visiting so stay home it shouldn't bother you as long as indians are not going to be in Pakistan.

The corner guy who owns the shop down the street is Sri Lankan he's not bothered why are you bother
The fact is that the SL A left due to PTI protest. I will repeat that I am not forming my opinion based on personal desires. But I am merely stating observations. Your own journalists and former cricketers were tweeting about the hybrid model following the commencement of protests.
 
Read the last two page of this thread. I already said same things few hours ago without any Pakistani source or this show

Now pakistan source is reporting same news means i was 100% right.
Your statements feature no links from Indian or Emirati news sources. Just you saying so.

With no further proof other than what you are saying the only sources you could be citing are Pakistani ones. Bring the Indian or Emirati sources.
 
We didnt start the fight, nor we asked anyone to not visit your country. We are not actively trying to sabotage a tournament in your country.
Who started the fight is a nuanced question where the answer changes depending upon who is asked the question.

We can even trace it back to 1947 if we get too deep in the rabbit hole. Therefore it is not a good path to follow.

All I am trying to say is, that people are getting too worked up upon a issue where they have absolutely no control over.
 
Nope this is monkey balancing to put half the blame on both sides, it is the Indian government acting petty here and using Cricket as a tool for their own agendas. Its an ICC tournament and all the other teams are ready to visit Pakistan except one ? So whole fault it is apart from the only Board/Government which is creating a scene ?

Pakistan only wants to host the tournament , India shouldnt bring their petty National friction into everything and ruin the Sport.

Ofcourse Indian government is acting the way everyone expects them to act.

You can call it petty, you may not be wrong. But you would find that the Indian government stance is not illogical,

has solid foreign policy guidelines behind it

And was enacted more than a decade ago.

You may not like it,

I myself is not a fan,

but I do get what they are trying to do and is the preferred approach to the alternative....
War between the two countries.....


Again, the uber point, cricket is too small to have any impact on the foreign policy.

All I am trying to say is, normal humans living on both sides should not get so worked up on normal things like scheduling of a cricket tournament.
 
Just over 24 hours ago almost every major Indian source was reporting "Naqvi has agreed to the hybrid model along with an additional 30% in revenue even though in his very last press conference Naqvi clearly stated 3x he's not going to accept the hybrid model and/or any sort of compensation offered.
There’s a Punjabi saying, “truck di batti piche laya,” and that perfectly describes the situation in India. The news channels have complete control over the population, brainwashing them into believing whatever narrative they want. They’re very active in this, even using Bollywood movies to push their agenda. The reason why they chest thumping based on fake news. They have to do that to keep modi in power so it seems its all hunky dory
 
This.

It's hilarious how these act like they're holier than thou and have a moral compass. It's just that they don't have the aukaat to take a tournament out of India...or else these same guys would have boasted about that day and night on this site..
I am told they used to back in the day when PCB barred its players
 
Read the last two page of this thread. I already said same things few hours ago without any Pakistani source or this show

Now pakistan source is reporting same news means i was 100% right.
I said this before that Jay Shah is nobody before you.
 
Even West Indies got to host tournaments and Pakistan, one of the giants of the game, current holders of this tournmanent can't? Please.

If Pakistan can't host this tourney in its entirety then no more matches with India until this Modi regime is replaced.
 
PCB tried with all it's might to take it's matches away from India in the 2023 World cup.

Now BCCI is doing the same thing.

Only difference? BCCI isn't a weak beggar board that relies of ICC revenue to even survive...instead it contributes to 90% of it. It all basically comes down this.
 
PCB tried with all it's might to take it's matches away from India in the 2023 World cup.

Now BCCI is doing the same thing.

Only difference? BCCI isn't a weak beggar board that relies of ICC revenue to even survive...instead it contributes to 90% of it. It all basically comes down this.
PCB wasnt wrong in doing so the whole Asia Cup was suppose to be in Pakistan but thanks to india it had to be hybrid, it was India in the wrong first like always
 
Move the tournament to India, let them get humilated at home again.

They already have allowed Aussies (ODI world cup) and New Zealand (test series) to pull their pants down recently

So might as well make it a 3rd special occasion 🤭
 
I am really confused. There are some posters on here on the political discussions says there is a civil unrest against government and police has done atrocities against protestors and there is unrest.

Same folks on this thread say everything is safe, India is unnecessarily over reacting and everything is safe :unsure:
 
If Pakistan is not safe to hold a meaningless game how is it safe to hold a huge ICC tournament?
who told you Pakistan isnt safe? what happened in Islamabad is nt a security situation. protests and sit in happen everywhere. Naqvi did nt care about A team. after all he has got 2 jobs, conflict was created by Naqvi led government itself.. because of political animosity. did SL A leave due to security concerns? apparently series was postponed after mutual agreement between pcb and Slc .. did SLC raise any concerns? not at all.. why indians are jumping on this instance.. Pak successfully hosted England last month and BD before that. we all know security is nt cause of BCCI’s refusal to travel.. why peddle this false narrative?
 
Don't book mark none of his rubbish, this same person claimed mohsin naqvi will accept the hybrid model on Friday. This person lives in his own world of fantasies

who told you Pakistan isnt safe? what happened in Islamabad is nt a security situation. protests and sit in happen everywhere. Naqvi did nt care about A team. after all he has got 2 jobs, conflict was created by Naqvi led government itself.. because of political animosity. did SL A leave due to security concerns? apparently series was postponed after mutual agreement between pcb and Slc .. did SLC raise any concerns? not at all.. why indians are jumping on this instance.. Pak successfully hosted England last month and BD before that. we all know security is nt cause of BCCI’s refusal to travel.. why peddle this false narrative?
If it was safe SL would have stayed back. There is no reason to abandon or postpone their matches
 
Ofcourse Indian government is acting the way everyone expects them to act.

You can call it petty, you may not be wrong. But you would find that the Indian government stance is not illogical,

has solid foreign policy guidelines behind it

And was enacted more than a decade ago.

You may not like it,

I myself is not a fan,

but I do get what they are trying to do and is the preferred approach to the alternative....
War between the two countries.....


Again, the uber point, cricket is too small to have any impact on the foreign policy.

All I am trying to say is, normal humans living on both sides should not get so worked up on normal things like scheduling of a cricket tournament.
Using Cricket Influence to guide foreign policy is a weakness of Indian Government, and stance is not very clear to begin with.
India plays Pakistan at Neutral venue. Hosts Pakistan at home. But wont play in Pakistan? whats the end game here?
1. trying to prove to world Pakistan is not secure? Pak only has 1 tournament ( smallest one in ICC arsenal ) will it make one iota of difference in geopolitical conflicts? because no one is buying it. Pakistan is already irrelevant to the powers be. trying to kill the dead elephant here?
2. India is trying to take a stand for people and soldiers affected by violence. ( why play at all? )
3. Trying to deprive Pak to get financial benefit.. did it work without no bilateral cricket for last 12 years? Pakistan is getting handsome funds from icc anyway and cricket is functioning

looks like ego problem of few in GOI than a reasonable FP intended to benefit India
 
all assumptions. talk to me about it when SLC raises concerns about CT 2025 security..
Why will SLC raise concerns about a tournament they are not participating? What assumption is there when the team postponed their matches and left the country? That is fact. There is nothing to speculate there
 
Why will SLC raise concerns about a tournament they are not participating? What assumption is there when the team postponed their matches and left the country? That is fact. There is nothing to speculate there
did any other board raise security concerns given the current situation? why ICC is offering hybrid model if there are genuine security concerns? should nt tournament be shifted then?
 
so this coming from close source from gt20 ! ICC and Pakistan will work on an agreement by Monday. Pakistan has rejected every thing that was offered to Pakistan.. Pakistan wants CT IN PAKISTAN. All future matches vs India are in question
 
so this coming from close source from gt20 ! ICC and Pakistan will work on an agreement by Monday. Pakistan has rejected every thing that was offered to Pakistan.. Pakistan wants CT IN PAKISTAN. All future matches vs India are in question

Any world cup that is hosted in the sub continent, Pakistan must be a co-host at the very minimum. Bangladesh too.
 
so this coming from close source from gt20 ! ICC and Pakistan will work on an agreement by Monday. Pakistan has rejected every thing that was offered to Pakistan.. Pakistan wants CT IN PAKISTAN. All future matches vs India are in question
Good stance if true.

Can't have a situation that everytime Pakistan is due to host, that whole tournament gets re-jigged for a bunch of spoilt brats.
 
I think the broadcasters operate in a captive market for cricket. Broadcasters, other boards (and especially Indian broadcasters) will not go against BCCI/GoI, rather just negotiate with BCCI for compensation via other means. Unless we have actual numbers, it will be difficult to judge the pain caused.
> After all, they also need to be convinced to act as a host.
I don't think they will need a lot of convincing to do. Given extra money for the unused stadiums.

Again speculation from our ends, I guess that is where we are different. BCCI has no interest in hurting Pak cricket, but it is in GoI's interest to do so. BCCI is now clearly a fiefdom of GoI

It's going to open a long list of new issues if that happens. The broadcasters will want to renegotiate and none of the involved parties will have control over how things go.

I don't even think the BCCI is interested in paying compensation. Otherwise, they would have buried Pakistani cricket a long time ago and started paying the ICC years ago for doing so.

You're right about the GoI's involvement. Their approach is a variable and how harsh they want to be. In fact, I would say the same for the PCB if the core Pakistani leaders get involved. It's quite possible a Pakistani government won't care about the PCB's financial well-being and still put its foot down for political purposes.

It's a sad state of affairs for cricket though. There are far too few teams in the cricketing community for silliness like this.
 
so this coming from close source from gt20 ! ICC and Pakistan will work on an agreement by Monday. Pakistan has rejected every thing that was offered to Pakistan.. Pakistan wants CT IN PAKISTAN. All future matches vs India are in question
I would love to chat with you on your views about chacha ifti from his gt20 days since you had a lot of insight on that too, my fellow canadian brotha :ksi
 
It's going to open a long list of new issues if that happens. The broadcasters will want to renegotiate and none of the involved parties will have control over how things go.

I don't even think the BCCI is interested in paying compensation. Otherwise, they would have buried Pakistani cricket a long time ago and started paying the ICC years ago for doing so.

You're right about the GoI's involvement. Their approach is a variable and how harsh they want to be. In fact, I would say the same for the PCB if the core Pakistani leaders get involved. It's quite possible a Pakistani government won't care about the PCB's financial well-being and still put its foot down for political purposes.

It's a sad state of affairs for cricket though. There are far too few teams in the cricketing community for silliness like this.
Its better to deal with this now rather than latter.

Accept the fact that sport has played proxy battle field and will always be affected by government relations world wide. Don't expect cricket to be an exception

Current PCB-BCCI drama is not sustainable. Best to break it now. That way world cricket expansion is not held hotsage by BCCI/India

Scenario 1: Major improvement at government level relations between India and pakistan. They could start by ignoring each other and constantly one up each other in world forums be it UN or SCO etc etc. Stop trying to be make the main goal to interfere and impede with each other

Let media which relies on the drama die on its vine.

May be in a few years, they can consider cultural ties. That wa,y any benefit becomes a bonus and not a necessity.

Scenario 2: Government relations remains the same or gets worse.
 
did any other board raise security concerns given the current situation? why ICC is offering hybrid model if there are genuine security concerns? should nt tournament be shifted then?
Because no other team was playing in Pak? None of this matter as boards will vote now
 
It's going to open a long list of new issues if that happens. The broadcasters will want to renegotiate and none of the involved parties will have control over how things go.
Broadcasters will not cross BCCI and GoI. Case in point: Haroon Lorgat and CSA.
I don't even think the BCCI is interested in paying compensation. Otherwise, they would have buried Pakistani cricket a long time ago and started paying the ICC years ago for doing so.
You are overestimating BCCI efficiency. Indians don’t have experience in using power effectively across international institutions.
In fact, I would say the same for the PCB if the core Pakistani leaders get involved. It's quite possible a Pakistani government won't care about the PCB's financial well-being and still put its foot down for political purposes.
i would have agreed if Pak economy wasn’t in perilous state. My reading is currently Pak needs money from wherever it can and it will bow down to BCCIs demands. S Jaishankar was at M Amarnaths book event yesterday(surprisingly), but he hinted at India’s position vis a vis Pakistan cricket and otherwise.

It's a sad state of affairs for cricket though. There are far too few teams in the cricketing community for silliness like this.
All governments will use all means necessary to maintain it’s strategic superiority. French intelligence was infamous for economic espionage and would bug Air France flights. CIA famously taped all phones of all NATO leaders.
It is wrong to expect cricket to not be a proxy like @rpant_gabba mentioned.

Apologies, as I have gone into opinions/speculation mode in the reply.
 
Because no other team was playing in Pak? None of this matter as boards will vote now
stupid logic. they are supposed to play in Pakistan in 2 months time. if there are genuine security concerns they will talk about it . ICC is offering hybrid to PCB before the vote which means India’s security concerns are not the basis of it. stop peddling fake narrative
 
Cancel the tournament.

Do a T20 Champions Trophy instead in some other country.
 
stupid logic. they are supposed to play in Pakistan in 2 months time. if there are genuine security concerns they will talk about it . ICC is offering hybrid to PCB before the vote which means India’s security concerns are not the basis of it. stop peddling fake narrative
Sure then the decision can be taken after two months. Thanks fully it doesn't work that way. Organizers look at the state of the country now, see how a team has abandoned two matches due to security issues and the refer to their government travel advisory before committing to any travel to a foreign country, especially the known to have had an attack on players
 
But abbas saab said Shah was begging
BCCI wants Hybrid model. They are doing everything in their power to make it happen. PCB is right in its stance to hold the whole even in Pakistan because ICC made them hosts quite a long time ago

judge yourself who is begging.
 
There is no official source India population is controlled by their media and they feed any sort of rubbish to boost fake bravado that's why these over confident indians are running their mouths here

As a somewhat neutral Indian, I'll agree. India may win this battle, but Pakistan has already won the ghairat-wars.

Naqvi ji's strong leadership may not deliver a Champion's Trophy, but his stance has successfully boosted the collective morale of a proud nation.
 
New developments are that GoI is putting weight on BCCI and BCCI is on GoI for the decision of going to Pakistan. Clear case of dishonesty.
If they do not want to come Pakistan then why they gave this tournament to Pakistan.
 
Various Indian media outlets reported that it's likely all boards have accepted hybrid model except PCB.

PAK outlets basically reported that Naqvi was a good strong man who refused to buckle to BCCI pressure

We will see who has the real "toilet" media in the next 48 hours
 
What I know and believe basis my personal observation, here is the probability of each thing:

Hybrid: 95%
Any other country: 3%
Entirely in Pakistan: 2%
India opting out and tournament to be played in Pak: 0%

Just my personal observation, hoping it to be wrong though.
 
Here is what’s going to happen:

1. PCB refused the hybrid model to flex their muscles a bit, and to show our awaam they have a tough stance
2. ICC threatens to move the tournament away
3. PCB asks for more time
4. PCB eventually accepts the hybrid model and tells the public the choice was either no tournament in Pakistan or a hybrid one

And for betterment of Pak cricket we had to choose the hybrid option.

In short, something is better than nothing.

Or,
In a parallel universe, Shah steps in and agrees to come to Pakistan. The entire CT happens in Pakistan.

Chances of that happening seem low.
 
What I know and believe basis my personal observation, here is the probability of each thing:

Hybrid: 95%
Any other country: 3%
Entirely in Pakistan: 2%
India opting out and tournament to be played in Pak: 0%

Just my personal observation, hoping it to be wrong though.
What about tournament getting postponed or just cancelled altogether?
 
As per reports:

Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.

If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.
 
As per reports:

Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.

If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.
Move the tournament then and good riddance, PCB should stand firm

Funny how other Indian government is happy with other Indian sports women and men are ok to go to Pakistan, but cricket team isn't. That hypocrisy alone deserves 2 fingers stuck up them.
 
The irony and arrogance of Indian fans is hilarious, you want to harp on about India / pakistan relations, and how Pakistan is unsafe for you "cricket team". If that's the case, why are you all on a Pakistani cricket forum then? Why associate with so called dangerous people?

There are some Indian fans with some sense (this isnt directed at you), but those that don't your hypocrisy is hilarious.

Like I said before spoilt child mentality
 
The irony and arrogance of Indian fans is hilarious, you want to harp on about India / pakistan relations, and how Pakistan is unsafe for you "cricket team". If that's the case, why are you all on a Pakistani cricket forum then? Why associate with so called dangerous people?

There are some Indian fans with some sense (this isnt directed at you), but those that don't your hypocrisy is hilarious.

Like I said before spoilt child mentality
Lovely to see the seething. Hopefully Naqvi stays true to his words and does not run after Indian money.
 
Lovely to see the seething. Hopefully Naqvi stays true to his words and does not run after Indian money.
Not seething, just find Indias stance childish and pathetic.

A government which finds another country dangerous, but picks and chooses when it wants to engage with such people. Why not engage at all anywhere and get on with your lives, instead it's nothing more than a point scoring exercise.
 
As per reports:

Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.

If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.
As per reports:

Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.

If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.

This sums up the whole thing.


And this is the reality.
 
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Not seething, just find Indias stance childish and pathetic.

A government which finds another country dangerous, but picks and chooses when it wants to engage with such people. Why not engage at all anywhere and get on with your lives, instead it's nothing more than a point scoring exercise.
As bad as India's stance is, the reason they get away with picking and choosing is because the PCB let's them get away with it. They so far have always fallen in line with BCCI and let them do what they want in return for some of BCCI's $$.

Now, if the PCB stands it's ground in the current situation, I will have respect for them. But if they continue to do what they have done in the past and cave in, then there is no hope for change. Also, there will be no point in screaming abut the unfair BCCI going forward.
 
As bad as India's stance is, the reason they get away with picking and choosing is because the PCB let's them get away with it. They so far have always fallen in line with BCCI and let them do what they want in return for some of BCCI's $$.

Now, if the PCB stands it's ground in the current situation, I will have respect for them. But if they continue to do what they have done in the past and cave in, then there is no hope for change. Also, there will be no point in screaming abut the unfair BCCI going forward.
Yep the PCB should have grown a spine a long time ago, hopefully they will stand firm.

We saw Aus and WI not go to SL in 96. Eng and Aus not go to zim in 03. So same precedent should be kept.

But all ICC and broadcasters don't care either, all parties knew Pakistan were host a few years ago..

Pretty much sums up modern society and childish behaviour most organisations exhibit.
 
As bad as India's stance is, the reason they get away with picking and choosing is because the PCB let's them get away with it. They so far have always fallen in line with BCCI and let them do what they want in return for some of BCCI's $$.

Now, if the PCB stands it's ground in the current situation, I will have respect for them. But if they continue to do what they have done in the past and cave in, then there is no hope for change. Also, there will be no point in screaming abut the unfair BCCI going forward.

They have tried the belligerent, braggadocio route during the MoU saga few yrs ago. Ended with egg on face and few million dollars light after BCCI counter sued and extracted all legal expenses lol. The wakeel's ( lawyers in Urdu btw ) on their side were the true winners who laffed their way to the bank. It was hilarious :ROFLMAO:
 
As per reports:

Broadcasters are unlikely to fund an ICC event without India's participation. This stance puts pressure on the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) to accept the hybrid model proposed for the Champions Trophy 2025.

If PCB does not agree, the ICC might relocate the tournament to another country, potentially the UAE, but without Pakistan's involvement.
@emranabbas is this true ? I thought broadcasters and BCCI were begging. It seems ICC is against PCB 😲
 
Not seething, just find Indias stance childish and pathetic.

A government which finds another country dangerous, but picks and chooses when it wants to engage with such people. Why not engage at all anywhere and get on with your lives, instead it's nothing more than a point scoring exercise.
Sure. I hope PCB doesn’t deviate
 
I thought ICC and the BCCI had given Pakistan the ultimatum of 24 hours to either accept the hybrid or forfeit the hosting rights

Here's a screenshot from yesterday: Jhoot Tak 😂

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PCB’s refusal to cooperate with ICC in this matter will prove to be a major hindrance to them ever getting an ICC event in the near future.

Given that PCB brings no revenue to ICC and is only able to stay functional on ICC handouts, it’s a shame that this cricket board could hold the ICC hostage like this.

I am rather surprised by the patience and generosity shown by BCCI and ICC. They have given every opportunity to PCB to accept the hybrid model, host 90% of the matches in Pakistan and keep the revenue share and yet in return they have received non cooperation from PCB.

This whole thing has been a huge distraction and a wastage of everyone’s time.

I expect the ICC to drop the axe very soon if PCB does not mind its place in the world cricket and bend the knee.
 
Pakistan is the KingMaker.

Pakistan will decide whether BCCI cronies get to eat for the next 12 Months. This is power and influence.

Indian is subservient to Pakistan and they don't even know it.

Remember, Indians didn't care!

🇵🇰😎💚
 
Najam Sethi on TV

Naqvi is opposing hybrid model. PCB has legal contract with ICC. Member Boards are with BCCI , Broadcasters want IndoPak games at every cost. PCB is independent now due to PSL.
 
Here is what’s going to happen:

1. PCB refused the hybrid model to flex their muscles a bit, and to show our awaam they have a tough stance
2. ICC threatens to move the tournament away
3. PCB asks for more time
4. PCB eventually accepts the hybrid model and tells the public the choice was either no tournament in Pakistan or a hybrid one

And for betterment of Pak cricket we had to choose the hybrid option.

In short, something is better than nothing.

Or,
In a parallel universe, Shah steps in and agrees to come to Pakistan. The entire CT happens in Pakistan.

Chances of that happening seem low.
Yes, steps 1-4 in your post are being played out and we are getting close to point 4.
A sad outcome, which will set a precedent for the future -- no ICC tournaments will end up in Pakistan and everyone will know that Pakistan can be bought for a few rupees.....
Hope I'm wrong but it's hard to see a different outcome
 
Pakistan is the KingMaker.

Pakistan will decide whether BCCI cronies get to eat for the next 12 Months. This is power and influence.

Indian is subservient to Pakistan and they don't even know it.

Remember, Indians didn't care!

🇵🇰😎💚

BCCI has reserves of 2.5 Billion USD plus. PCB depends on handouts from ICC. Refer to your ex-chairman Ramiz.
Pakistan and PCB is begging ICC currently to get CT hosted. That is why Naqvi is in UAE physically for a meeting which is virtual. No one from ICC met him. Poor guy met the UAE cricket board head for some photo ops.
Remember, We still don't care and Indian team will not set foot on Pakistani soil.
 
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India funds Pakistan Cricket. Ramiz Raja has admitted that clearly. So the day Modi decides to kill the funding, PCB will run dry and cry more.
So, just follow the master to make money. If PCB does not like it, don't take the money from ICC.
Simple really. Pakistan does not have to take this money. Indian Cricket Team is not setting foot on Pakistani soil.
 
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