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Crazy if trueWon't be surprised if a certain Political Party in Pakistan is planning another protest , this time a larger and more violent one, just two days before the Start of the tournament when the Government of Pakistan will be in its most vulnerable state and focussed on maintaining peace to ensure smooth hosting of the tournament. So when a large number of security contingent will be guarding the Cricketers, the opposition party is expected to open another front to further their cause..
Many Indians would be delighted to see Hosting Rights of Pakistan being taken away , but there are also a large number of Pakistanis themselves living in and outside Pakistan who want the same.. Successful hosting of CT will be sign of normalcy being restored in Pakistan and the opposition part is strictly against it since they are not in the power. Both BJP/BCCI and a particular party in Pakistan have same interests.
no.. PTI protest was supposed to be peaceful .. its their constitutional right and no court order can over ride this right.. the government lead by Naqvi himself created unnecessary hurdles and created a situation of security just because of political animosity. so during CT if PTI calls for protests , it can be peaceful if Govt does nt interfere unnecessarily.The main point is that the SL A team was compelled to leave the tour and it was because of the PTI protests. The PTI protests occurred when the Head of State of Belarus was in the country, and their primary intention was to gain international attention. So there is a possibility of them creating disruptions in Lahore and Karachi when the CT is being played there.
BCCI amd ICC gave pakistan two options - Accept the hybrid model or entire champion trophy out of the Pakistan . No third option from ICC.
Naqvi asked 24 more hour to discuss theses things with Pakistan government or PCB official .
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You can belive on Pakistan source. But truth is always remain truth.What's the source on this?
Pakistan is reporting it's the ICC which has asked for more time after Naqvi didn't budge from his stance of NO hybrid model.
You can belive on Pakistan source. But truth is always remain truth.
Its your choice if you face the reality or just living in delusion world.
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One another point not just Indian government but some Indian players conveyed to BCCI that they didn't want to travel Pakistan due to security reasons.
One another point not just Indian government but some Indian players conveyed to BCCI that they didn't want to travel Pakistan due to security reasons.
Did the govt just put the blame on BCCI when they are the ones claiming govt didnt let them come?? What an absolute clown show this is india the gift that keeps on giving
BCCI had refused to send team even before the protest. What I am trying to suggest is that the mid tour departure of the Sri Lankan A team from Pakistan has dented the chances of Pakistan hosting the tournament. ICC can mention this as a valid reason to shift the tournament.I have no idea about other countries protocol but aus ,nz,eng follow strick government advisory and if their is tiny bit issue they will pulled out
I am not saying what you have mentioned in this post. Neither I am saying I want this or that. 2 days ago, you yourself mentioned that the ongoing protests are negatively affecting the chances. I am not sure about what has changed in the past two days.The claim that nobody wants to come to Pakistan is just a desperate fantasy pushed by Indians.
Won't be surprised if a certain Political Party in Pakistan is planning another protest , this time a larger and more violent one, just two days before the Start of the tournament when the Government of Pakistan will be in its most vulnerable state and focussed on maintaining peace to ensure smooth hosting of the tournament. So when a large number of security contingent will be guarding the Cricketers, the opposition party is expected to open another front to further their cause..
Many Indians would be delighted to see Hosting Rights of Pakistan being taken away , but there are also a large number of Pakistanis themselves living in and outside Pakistan who want the same.. Successful hosting of CT will be sign of normalcy being restored in Pakistan and the opposition party is strictly against it since they are not in the power. Both BJP/BCCI and a particular party in Pakistan have same interests.
Did the govt just put the blame on BCCI when they are the ones claiming govt didnt let them come?? What an absolute clown show this is india the gift that keeps on giving
those players defintely deserve Bharat RatnaOne another point not just Indian government but some Indian players conveyed to BCCI that they didn't want to travel Pakistan due to security reasons.
" jaan hai toh jahan hai"those players defintely deserve Bharat Ratna
All are just rumour through unknown source .wait for official statements from ICC.So PCB has said no to hybrid model. So it looks like entire CT will be moved out of Pakistan as suggested by Cricbuzz
bcci said "No" long before that incident .If CT is shifted outside of Pakistan then the Indian govt will award Bharat Ratna to Bushra Bibi and Ali Amin Gandapur for their contribution in helping them achieving their goal.
It will be so much fun, If the entire tournament is shifted outside
Before Hybrid model after that incident, ICC or BCCI case regarding entire champion trophy outside Pakistan is become strong.bcci said "No" long before that incident .
If tournaments get postponed or cancel than only one party will he happy and that is broadcasters .Won't be much fun for ICC and the broadcaster but I guess BCCI is rich enough to compensate for the losses.
Be careful what you wish for isn't world t20 2026 in india .Before Hybrid model after that incident, ICC or BCCI case regarding entire champion trophy outside Pakistan is become strong.
BCCI had refused to send team even before the protest. What I am trying to suggest is that the mid tour departure of the Sri Lankan A team from Pakistan has dented the chances of Pakistan hosting the tournament. ICC can mention this as a valid reason to shift the tournament.
I am not saying what you have mentioned in this post. Neither I am saying I want this or that. 2 days ago, you yourself mentioned that the ongoing protests are negatively affecting the chances. I am not sure about what has changed in the past two days.
We Don't care if your scared to visit pakistan. Just stay at home
Repeating again, pls postpone the Champions trophy and have it in England in the month of June. It is just a matter of 4 months anyway. The last 2 editions of Champions Trophy there was super hit. It is also the best place to play cricket, far away for these petty sub continent politics.
One another point not just Indian government but some Indian players conveyed to BCCI that they didn't want to travel Pakistan due to security reasons.
Truly the efficient display of crackdown on chaos and Anarchy must be respected. Naqvi Saab is a true leader!It was a protest its over and done with but India are still not invited thank you very much
The protests are not "ongoing" today its all clear and safe. But you are still not welcome
Source: Times of Multi-verseThere are counter rumours that some Indian players demanded that they be allowed to travel to Pakistan but were threatened with charges of treason punishable by jail sentences if they made these demands public.
Repeating again, pls postpone the Champions trophy and have it in England in the month of June. It is just a matter of 4 months anyway. The last 2 editions of Champions Trophy there was super hit. It is also the best place to play cricket, far away for these petty sub continent politics.
Cricket can run in England from June to Sept.It's not that easy.
There's also a WTC final plus the mega 5-Test series against India that England will be playing. No way they can fit a 20 day tournament in there.
Great idea! We could host the T20 Cricket World Cup there next year too instead of in India.Cricket can run in England from June to Sept.
CT - First 3 weeks of June
4th week of June - rest week
WTC Finals - 1st week of July
Remaining 2.5 months for 5 tests.
This is not Pakistan but india. In pakistan theses things are very common in the name of software updateThere are counter rumours that some Indian players demanded that they be allowed to travel to Pakistan but were threatened with charges of treason punishable by jail sentences if they made these demands public.
Very emotional response. Btw, another Pakistan poster above stated that 25 protesters were killed and he is against the idea of holding no protest in the coming 3 months. Most PTI supporters think like this.It was a protest its over and done with but India are still not invited thank you very much
The protests are not "ongoing" today its all clear and safe. But you are still not welcome
They are not going anyway that's the point.We Don't care if your **** scared to visit pakistan. Just stay at home
Why ????Repeating again, pls postpone the Champions trophy and have it in England in the month of June. It is just a matter of 4 months anyway. The last 2 editions of Champions Trophy there was super hit. It is also the best place to play cricket, far away for these petty sub continent politics.
Sure Go ahead but 2026 edition of T20 cricket world cup will remain in India.Great idea! We could host the T20 Cricket World Cup there next year too instead of in India.
Great idea! We could host the T20 Cricket World Cup there next year too instead of in India.
Pakistan is not going to get any hosting rights for another 20 years atleast after this fiasco.Great idea! We could host the T20 Cricket World Cup there next year too instead of in India.
Will you be able to beat the H1-B techies?Yes and it will be repeat of 2009 with Pakistan winning the trophy on a sunny Sunday evening in June at Lords.
Why ????
I already told them. Pakistan is not going to host any ICC tournaments as long as ICC= BCCI.Pakistan is not going to get any hosting rights for another 20 years atleast after this fiasco.
Pakistan is not going to get any hosting rights for another 20 years atleast after this fiasco.
I don't care about the broadcasters or bcci. It will be entertainmentWon't be much fun for ICC and the broadcaster but I guess BCCI is rich enough to compensate for the losses.
Pakistan is going to play 2026 world T20 in india . You can bookmark this thread now.After this fiasco you probably won't see Pakistan play an ICC event match India again either. Every tournament probably be co hosted so Pakistan can play its matches on "neutral venues"
Is that why Pakistanis abroad call their restraunts Indian and they themselves like to pass off as Indians?BCCI flexing it's power in the cricket scene by not coming to Pakistan.
It's quite funny, we all know globally, especially in the West the connotations and stereotypes Indians have so it makes sense in the one aspect where they are the ruling elite they flex their muscles as much as they can.
And all India tournaments will be in hybrid modelPakistan is not going to get any hosting rights for another 20 years atleast after this fiasco.
Pakistan is not going to get any hosting rights for another 20 years atleast after this fiasco.
Don't book mark none of his rubbish, this same person claimed mohsin naqvi will accept the hybrid model on Friday. This person lives in his own world of fantasiesPakistan is going to play 2026 world T20 in india . You can bookmark this thread now.
Is that why Pakistanis abroad call their restraunts Indian and they themselves like to pass off as Indians?
1 - Because of india... just kick them out and include SL or WIMultiple reasons.
1. It is already too late to host an ICC event. We are just 2 months away and don't even know where the matches will be played.
2. Hosting entirely in Pakistan is out of question, so it will be probably in hybrid model. I am personally not a big fan of matches played in UAE
3. Too much politics has already been involved in this tournament. What is the fun of having a cricket tournament amidst such situation. Think about players also....not only Ind and Pak players but players from other countries as well.
4. Lets give all of this a break. Come back after 4 months and host a proper tournament in England with PCB as host board.
Will you be able to beat the H1-B techies?
Welcome to the world of KIRKET, our Angrez saab !! .. finally you are on a cricket forumThe fiasco is not of Pakistan's making but due to Indian govt interference. So why would ICC punish Pakistan for Indian problem making? Unless you are saying openly that ICC just follows orders from BCCI.
Why did SL A team leave then?1 - Because of india... just kick them out and include SL or WI
2 - Hybrid model is out of question .... Pakistan will host the entire tournament.
3 - This is just a perception... there is no politics.... All players, including the Indian team, are safe here.
4 - No breaks are needed.... the tournament will proceed as scheduled in Pakistan.
I think the broadcasters operate in a captive market for cricket. Broadcasters, other boards (and especially Indian broadcasters) will not go against BCCI/GoI, rather just negotiate with BCCI for compensation via other means. Unless we have actual numbers, it will be difficult to judge the pain caused.I prefer meaningful debate too.
I think the IPL is different.
The IPL is 100% Indian matches in a way. That's like hitting the jackpot for the organizer, broadcaster, and advertisers. But now imagine if India gets knocked out early in an ICC tournament. Not every tournament is like 2023 or 2024 where India goes all the way.
The broadcaster will end up getting wrecked with random games and maybe a lame final between New Zealand and Zimbabwe (no offense to those teams lol).
I think this is why the broadcasters will have an issue. They paid for those rights with the India-Pakistan games included as it's a sure-shot moneymaker for them in case things go haywire in a tournament. Plus, the potential for multiple India-Pakistan games if they both go through to the knockout rounds.
We have to be honest and realize India vs a replacement team is not the same as India vs Pakistan in an ICC tournament. Same goes for Pakistan vs a replacement team of course.
In-stadium revenue generation I can agree with. You will likely see more money from traveling Indian fans and that is an incentive that will be used for the co-host that is chosen (SL or UAE). After all, they also need to be convinced to act as a host.
I just don't see the BCCI wanting to crush Pakistani cricket. Not even through arrogance.
Again speculation from our ends, I guess that is where we are different. BCCI has no interest in hurting Pak cricket, but it is in GoI's interest to do so. BCCI is now clearly a fiefdom of GoII just don't see the BCCI wanting to crush Pakistani cricket. Not even through arrogance.
When You'll know the reason why was today meeting postponed.than comeback here. Oh wait for few day when ICC announced the schedule of champion trophy. You will get big reality check untill than lives in your delusions world.Don't book mark none of his rubbish, this same person claimed mohsin naqvi will accept the hybrid model on Friday. This person lives in his own world of fantasies
Gazab!! Now my friends this is called CONFIDENCE!1 - Because of india... just kick them out and include SL or WI
2 - Hybrid model is out of question .... Pakistan will host the entire tournament.
3 - This is just a perception... there is no politics.... All players, including the Indian team, are safe here.
4 - No breaks are needed.... the tournament will proceed as scheduled in Pakistan.
Another indian living in a fantasy world, this is an ICC tournament, ICC pays for the tournament so take your resources BS elsewhere.Pakistanis and PCB is in a fucked up situation..they know India won't come to pak..and they don't have the resource capability to run such a big event even if it's a hybrid model..they too know without India the tournament won't happen..their grounds are not ready..what they are trying now is to postpone the champions trophy by faking a drama that they are not ready for hybrid..so the CT will be out on hold or moved to another country and the PCB can save their face stating they fought..
Why did SL A team leave then?
Why did SL A team leave then?
They played several matches, including a Test series and ODIs, and will return again.Why did SL A team leave then?
Or Facts maybe....Gazab!! Now my friends this is called CONFIDENCE!
Speculations can't be factsOr Facts maybe....
Today meeting was postponed because Mohsin naqvi walked in to the ICC office showed his middle finger to BCCI "no hybrid model" and walked back out.When You'll know the reason why was today meeting postponed.than comeback here. Oh wait for few day when ICC announced the schedule of champion trophy. You will get big reality check untill than lives in your delusions world.
They played several matches, including a Test series and ODIs, and will return again.
Speculations can't be facts
No guarantee that there will be no Mumbai 11/26 again going by your theory India shouldn't host any tournaments eitherIf a protest can force SL A team to be sent back, then no question of champions trophy in pakistan. No guarantee there will not be another protest
In 2009 when Sri Lanka team were attacked by terrorists ,they had already played 3 ODI ,1 practice test and 1 test matches.They played several matches, including a Test series and ODIs, and will return again.
with mutual agreement and will comeback soon.....Point is they left in between due to protests.
Do you think this protest came out of nowhere? Pakistan government approved this protest before handPoint is they left in between due to protests.
But England visited just weeks later because they trusted our security. Pakistan has a history of teams refusing to travel from time to time. Just 3 years ago, NZ and Eng had skipped the tour.No guarantee that there will be no Mumbai 11/26 again going by your theory India shouldn't host any tournaments either
But it turned violent and made SL A team leave.Do you think this protest came out of nowhere? Pakistan government approved this protest before hand