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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

emranabbas said:
Naqvi only said no hybrid model just like bcci said no travel to Pakistan

Instead if being gobsmacked tell me anything he said other than that?
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And therein lies the problem. Has repeatedly said no hybrid going all bombastic and now come Nov 29th he will wholeheartedly agree to hybrid. Not even sure if pak will be given that option anymore
 
rpant_gabba said:
sure. Thats why Pakistan boycotted the 1980 olympics. The glen eagles agreement was put in place. Pakistan boycotted India for 3 years in the early 90's.

you sound like someone in middle school
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Ask them, will Pakistan allow Israel back in Asian competitions? You won't get a straight answer but just jalebi, like Sahil says 😉
 
Damn so much useless debates in here it’s hard to find actual and credible information about the tournament.

What do insider reports say?

I kinda agree with Rashid Latif, it will be a hybrid model and PCB has no other choice. They’ll swallow the bitter pill in exchange of extra $$$. Baby steps.

Plus there’s no other ICC tournament happening in Pakistan in years. Take all the money you can.
 
rpant_gabba said:
sure. Thats why Pakistan boycotted the 1980 olympics. The glen eagles agreement was put in place. Pakistan boycotted India for 3 years in the early 90's.
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@mb3407 @RyanRyan10

When someone speaks of peace and prosperity, it might seem naïve in today’s hysterical world. Pakistan’s actions in that instance were wrong. People from both countries need to engage through sports and beyond to stop politics from exploiting them.
 
It will be a repeat of 2009. When hosting rights of CT 2009 was taken away from Pakistan because of severe security issues.
This time again for Africa

I wonder our condition has not changed in these 15 long years. Still standing at the same point. Oh my my…
 
Farabi said:
@mb3407 @RyanRyan10

When someone speaks of peace and prosperity, it might seem naïve in today’s hysterical world. Pakistan’s actions in that instance were wrong. People from both countries need to engage through sports and beyond to stop politics from exploiting them.
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You are saying this now. Earlier, you were projecting Pakistan and Pakistanis as champions of morality.
 
Hawkeye said:
Damn so much useless debates in here it’s hard to find actual and credible information about the tournament.

What do insider reports say?

I kinda agree with Rashid Latif, it will be a hybrid model and PCB has no other choice. They’ll swallow the bitter pill in exchange of extra $$$. Baby steps.

Plus there’s no other ICC tournament happening in Pakistan in years. Take all the money you can.
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Pride actually important for life. If someone ask you that he will slap you in front of 100k people for the price of 100k US Dollar will you accept it?
 
Thread is not about Israel and palestine chat.. please refrain from derailing the thread
 
Rajdeep said:
Being a Hindu, I believe in concept of Karma.

Even if CT moved out of Pak, we should still stay humble rather than trying to rub it onto them.

I mean we won't like it if any ICC tournament moved out of India, isn't it? So one has to empathise with the disappointment of Pak fans.

Paisa aaj hai...kal nehi hai. We must stay grounded. That is all I will say.
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At this juncture, i dont think any Pakistani cricket fan or Pakistani cares for this fake karma line. Carry on as you are…
Your board is the top pooch at the moment, no denying it and they will harm Pakistan in every conceivable way possible.. karma doesn’t come into it.
 
From what the PCB Chairman has said looks like this will be a Hybrid - he didn't only in Pakistan in his last quote
 
deltexas said:
And therein lies the problem. Has repeatedly said no hybrid going all bombastic and now come Nov 29th he will wholeheartedly agree to hybrid. Not even sure if pak will be given that option anymore
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Forget 29th November.

You're saying he's making statement after statement, but apart from rejecting the hybrid model, what other statements has he made?

You Indians are desperate and uncertain because you don't even know what will happen on 29th November. You're clinging to the hope of a hybrid model, or else you wouldn't be gathering in groups here to express your frustration.
 
Since ICC knows India will play in final. Just make India winner for CT 2025. All members will happily accept that.
Otherwise take the tournament to any neutral country and no more India vs Pakistan match unless its final.
 
emranabbas said:
Forget 29th November.

You're saying he's making statement after statement, but apart from rejecting the hybrid model, what other statements has he made?

You Indians are desperate and uncertain because you don't even know what will happen on 29th November. You're clinging to the hope of a hybrid model, or else you wouldn't be gathering in groups here to express your frustration.
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Again that exactly is the issue. He is giving all these unrealistic statements to the local Pak public. He knows Ind is not visiting Pak and hybrid os his best option but still keeps hoodwinking the Pak public.
 
deltexas said:
Again that exactly is the issue. He is giving all these unrealistic statements to the local Pak public. He knows Ind is not visiting Pak and hybrid os his best option but still keeps hoodwinking the Pak public.

And after all I posted- if you are so naive to believe whatever you posted then cant help folks like you. You truly live in a bubble in denial with no grasp of reality whatsoever.
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your keep saying "statement after statement" "unrealistic statments" so that's more than 2 stamens other than no hybrid model what other statement he's given?

I think your you Indians are naive, you think your dealing with najam sethi, ramiz raja and zaka ashraf

Do you know who mohsin naqvi is?
 
emranabbas said:
your keep saying "statement after statement" "unrealistic statments" so that's more than 2 stamens other than no hybrid model what other statement he's given?
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The fact that he has mentioned that no-hybid is an unrealistic statement. Everyone knew that India was never going to Pakistan.
 
nuttyprof said:
The fact that he has mentioned that no-hybid is an unrealistic statement. Everyone knew that India was never going to Pakistan.
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It’s not unrealistic when it’s coming from Pakistan’s Interior Minister.

He’s not just the PCB chairman. If the Pakistani government says no to the hybrid model, then it’s a no.

This isn’t Najam Sethi, who was a journalist, Zaka Ashraf, who’s a businessman, or Ramiz Raja, who’s a former cricketer we’re talking about the Interior Minister of Pakistan here.
 
PCB has two options -

1. Be sensible, agree for the hybrid model (with some backdoor concessions provided) and keep getting that moolah from the ICC on an yearly basis to sustain their pockets.

2. Lose the hosting rights altogether, boycott the ICC to save face infront of their gullible emotional awaam and then proceed to play an year-long "Champions Cup" to let their fans enjoy Shadab Khan's full tosses getting deposited into the 55 M boundaries by Azam Khan infront of 200 people sitting on concrete stairs.

Choice is theirs. :)
 
emranabbas said:
It’s not unrealistic when it’s coming from Pakistan’s Interior Minister.

He’s not just the PCB chairman. If the Pakistani government says no to the hybrid model, then it’s a no.

This isn’t Najam Sethi, who was a journalist, Zaka Ashraf, who’s a businessman, or Ramiz Raja, who’s a former cricketer we’re talking about the Interior Minister of Pakistan here.
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Pakistan government doesn't own the ICC.

At the end of the day its ICC members who will vote to decide what will happen.

Whatever they vote and pass is the decision every board will have to agree to. Or that board will have to withdraw its team.
 
emranabbas said:
And pakistan government will decide weather it wants to play in a hybrid model or not
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Omg. In which delusion world you guy's are living .

Pakistan government cant do anything about Hybrid model .

It will he ICC decision . If PCB doesn't agree with hybrid model than they can boycott the CT . that's it

:ROFLMAO::kp
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan government cant do anything about Hybrid model .

It will he ICC decision . If PCB doesn't agree with hybrid model than they can boycott the CT . that's it

:ROFLMAO::kp
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If the Pakistan government says no to the hybrid model, then it’s a no. If the ICC can’t agree, Pakistan won’t be sending its team back to your broadcasters, begging for an India vs. Pakistan match
 
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emranabbas said:
If the Pakistan government says no to the hybrid model, then it’s a no. If the ICC can’t agree, Pakistan won’t be sending its team back to your broadcasters, begging for an India vs. Pakistan match like bikharis as usual
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Pakistan government or any other government doesn't have any say in hybrid model .

Its solely ICC decision. Pakistan can boycott the hybrid events if they have any problem . champion trophy can play without Pakistan also .
 
Devadwal said:
Pakistan government or any other government doesn't have any say in hybrid model .

Its solely ICC decision. Pakistan can boycott the hybrid events if they have any problem . champion trophy can play without Pakistan also .

We all know who is begging state lol:shh
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if Pakistan don't agree with hybrid model and ICC are hell bent on it Pakistan can pull out of the tournament. Then it will be your indian broadcasters crying for a a indian Pakistan match. So Pakistan has a saybif they want to play in a hybrid model or not play at all
 
nuttyprof said:
I think I have seen everything. Calling BCCI beggars 🤣
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Pakistan cricket board ex chairman Ramiz Raza said that PCB is run on ICC money and ICC is run on BCCI money and Modi can shut down PCB any day he want . But but delusion fan's can think anything. Sochne ke paise todi lagte h .
 
emranabbas said:
if Pakistan don't agree with hybrid model and ICC are hell bent on it Pakistan can pull out of the tournament. Then it will be your indian broadcasters crying for a a indian Pakistan match. So Pakistan has a saybif they want to play in a hybrid model or not play at all
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Don't worry about Broadcasters .just boycott it. Its not PCB problem Surely, isn't it? :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Don't worry about Broadcasters .just boycott it. Its not PCB problem Surely, isn't it? :kp
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PCB relies on ICC moolah to even survive. Unless they're stupid and want to end Cricket as a whole in their country, they will most likely come anywhere the ICC tells them to while wagging their tails like they did during the 2023 Asia cup and the World Cup.

Beggars cannot be choosers ... literally.
 
cricketjoshila said:
The hybrid model will be voted on. Boards will likely go with the BCCI.

If PCB can get a vote in their favour for India hosted tournaments. Good on them.
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It's the only common sense solution for all parties involved. I think they will likely accept the hybrid model for Indian tournaments too.

The ICC will want to give the PCB an out. It's common in politics (even between warring nations let alone something like this) and it's common in business. If you push someone too much into a corner, you will provoke irrational decision-making (i.e. Pakistan pulls out completely).

Asia Cup 2025 might have been an interesting test to see what the BCCI and PCB do but I think it's likely dead on arrival if a hybrid model CT is planned. There's no way these boards will agree to anything on their own.
 
kingusama92 said:
It's the only common sense solution for all parties involved. I think they will likely accept the hybrid model for Indian tournaments too.

The ICC will want to give the PCB an out. It's common in politics (even between warring nations let alone something like this) and it's common in business. If you push someone too much into a corner, you will provoke irrational decision-making (i.e. Pakistan pulls out completely).

Asia Cup 2025 might have been an interesting test to see what the BCCI and PCB do but I think it's likely dead on arrival if a hybrid model CT is planned. There's no way these boards will agree to anything on their own.
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I see your point. But typically give the other party an out only when the other party has a leverage. I do not think PCB has a leverage. I am willing to bet Indian tournaments are not going to be hybrid
 
nuttyprof said:
I see your point. But typically give the other party an out only when the other party has a leverage. I do not think PCB has a leverage. I am willing to bet Indian tournaments are not going to be hybrid
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You might be right.

From what I can gather, they will have two points of leverage. How robust that leverage is an unknown of course. Might be nothing, might be something.

Those two points are:

1) India-Pakistan matches
2) CT trophy being turned into a hybrid model

I don't think any of the boards (including the BCCI) are too interested in footing the bill for lost revenue from those matches. Nor do I think anyone is actively hoping to destroy Pakistani cricket. These are things said on PakPassion but are just as unrealistic as Pakistan forfeiting matches.

The boards will have to think about all angles. What if Pakistan can't come to India from government orders? They will kick Pakistan out? I find that highly unlikely.
 
Farabi said:
@mb3407 @RyanRyan10

When someone speaks of peace and prosperity, it might seem naïve in today’s hysterical world. Pakistan’s actions in that instance were wrong. People from both countries need to engage through sports and beyond to stop politics from exploiting them.
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That is precisely why Indian govt is preventing sports engagement. They want to exploit the politics because damaging Pakistan is more important to them than the sport.
 
emranabbas said:
If the Pakistan government says no to the hybrid model, then it’s a no. If the ICC can’t agree, Pakistan won’t be sending its team back to your broadcasters, begging for an India vs. Pakistan match
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Don't worry about the broadcaster. ICC will handle that. Just make sure Pakistan does what you say they will do.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That is precisely why Indian govt is preventing sports engagement. They want to exploit the politics because damaging Pakistan is more important to them than the sport.
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Pakistanis dont remember all this when they boycott Israel? Or when they boycotted Olympics? I am not even going into the boycott of Asia Cup and India tours.
 
I think based on present circumstances, they should do the hybrid model with Pakistan and India in different groups. India plays all their matches in UAE. One semi-final in UAE, but the final remains in Pakistan. If India qualify for the final and don't want to travel, well that's too bad.

However, PCB should only agree to this provided Pakistan will get the same hybrid model for future ICC tournaments in India.

End this tamasha and move on. This is the only sensible conclusion to this whole thing.
 
emranabbas said:
the broadcasters, I guess Indians, are already freaking out and begging for an India vs Pakistan match, or the tournament would just go on without India.
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Looks like you have a massive comprehension issue. Even if Broadcasters (aka Indians) are begging for an India v Pakistan match, no one has asked PCB to oblige. Why can't PCB pull out of the tournament, deny ICC an Ind vs Pak game and test this theory whether an ICC tournament can take place without Pakistan. Its upto BCCI/ICC how they deal with broadcasters.
 
emranabbas said:
the broadcasters, I guess Indians, are already freaking out and begging for an India vs Pakistan match, or the tournament would just go on without India.
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The broadcaster is majority owned by Ambani. He isn't begging any pakistani.

His news channels Hasn't Said anything like this.
 
Rajdeep said:
Looks like you have a massive comprehension issue. Even if Broadcasters (aka Indians) are begging for an India v Pakistan match, no one has asked PCB to oblige. Why can't PCB pull out of the tournament, deny ICC an Ind vs Pak game and test this theory whether an ICC tournament can take place without Pakistan. Its upto BCCI/ICC how they deal with broadcasters.
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I think your just desperate to play the champions trophy and frustrated that you may not play the champions trophy

why should PCB pull out, Pakistan are the host, its just a desperation from the Indians, issue a statement "will not travel to Pakistan" and then using their broadcasters to beg for Indian vs Pakistan match. just make you look like idiots
 
India acting like heros then using their broadcasters to put pressure on ICC that they want an Indian vs Pakistan in a hybrid model.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Pakistanis dont remember all this when they boycott Israel? Or when they boycotted Olympics? I am not even going into the boycott of Asia Cup and India tours.
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Actually you should go into boycotts of Asia Cup and India tours since they are the only ones relevant to this sport and this topic.
 
emranabbas said:
I think your just desperate to play the champions trophy and frustrated that you may not play the champions trophy

why should PCB pull out, Pakistan are the host, its just a desperation from the Indians, issue a statement "will not travel to Pakistan" and then using their broadcasters to beg for Indian vs Pakistan match. just make you look like idiots
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Below is what you said just 30 mins ago in post #2595
Atleast stick to one stance man :uakmal

emranabbas said:
if Pakistan don't agree with hybrid model and ICC are hell bent on it Pakistan can pull out of the tournament.
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All we are asking is, go ahead...ask PCB to pull out and test this theory of yours. If indeed ICC tournament can't happen without Ind v Pak game, then PCB will be the winner and will have the cards going forward. Pakistan don't have to worry about broadcasters etc., let that be the headache of BCCI & ICC.
 
Rajdeep said:
Below is what you said just 30 mins ago in post #2595
Atleast stick to one stance man :uakmal



All we are asking is, go ahead...ask PCB to pull out and test this theory of yours. If indeed ICC tournament can't happen without Ind v Pak game, then PCB will be the winner and will have the cards going forward. Pakistan don't have to worry about broadcasters etc., let that be the headache of BCCI & ICC.
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clutching the straws are we? maybe you need some sense, or maybe you have not read the post
 
emranabbas said:
www.india.com

Champions Trophy 2025: Mukesh Ambani-owned JioStar putting pressure on ICC, PAK are in BIG trouble

The ICC are under pressure from Indian broadcasters 'JioStar' to announce the final schedule of ICC Champions Trophy 2025 soon.
www.india.com www.india.com


sorry what did you say?
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Read what i posted. Ambani has a big media empire. Including various news channels. None of them has reported this.

India.com isn't a Ambani company.

Such planted stories in media are not new. In last couple of months there has been various such plants regarding Pakistan.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Read what i posted. Ambani has a big media empire. Including various news channels. None of them has reported this.

India.com isn't a Ambani company.

Such planted stories in media are not new. In last couple of months there has been various such plants regarding Pakistan.
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when its something anti Pakistan then its gospel you Indians are funny people :ROFLMAO:
 
emranabbas said:
I think your just desperate to play the champions trophy and frustrated that you may not play the champions trophy

why should PCB pull out, Pakistan are the host, its just a desperation from the Indians, issue a statement "will not travel to Pakistan" and then using their broadcasters to beg for Indian vs Pakistan match. just make you look like idiots
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Nobody is asking Pak to pull out. Icc and pcb can go ahead without Ind. So why does naqvi keep saying no hybrid model. He never even once said we will go ahead even without Ind. That shows the stark reality and if you dont want to admit - then cant help the deniers.

A lot of pak posters have made peace with this fact. Whether they like it or not - its a different issue. But they realize the reality. Let's put the puppy to bed after the Nov 30th icc meeting i guess..
 
deltexas said:
Nobody is asking Pak to pull out. Icc and pcb can go ahead without Ind. So why does naqvi keep saying no hybrid model. He never even once said we will go ahead even without Ind. That shows the stark reality and if you dont want to admit - then cant help the deniers.

A lot of pak posters have made peace with this fact. Whether they like it or not - its a different issue. But they realize the reality. Let's put the puppy to bed after the Nov 30th icc meeting i guess..
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because you Indians are trying to play dirty, on one hand your saying you don't want to visit Pakistan and have pulled out on the other hand your pushing your broadcasters to put pressure on ICC begging for hybrid model.

so Naqvi has been clear no hybrid model champions trophy in Pakistan only if India wants to come then it up to them if not it will be without India.
 
Shafi said:
Pride actually important for life. If someone ask you that he will slap you in front of 100k people for the price of 100k US Dollar will you accept it?
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Genius of you to assume things work the same at state and professional body level.

That’s why only few people make successful leaders and take country forward. Because they think and make rational decisions.
 
shah9425 said:
Stop fighting with each other

We will know outcome by tomorrow
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Yeah, but there’s no way any other option will come out apart from the hybrid model.

In fact PCB might even be happy with stripping the hosting rights because the stadiums not sure if they will be ready.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
That is precisely why Indian govt is preventing sports engagement. They want to exploit the politics because damaging Pakistan is more important to them than the sport.
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It’s possible that politics plays a role in this situation, but true Indians who love their country wouldn’t support our players traveling to or playing in Pakistan. However, the reality is that India vs. Pakistan matches are a significant source of revenue for the ICC, and they struggle to achieve the same level of profitability without these high-stakes games.

As for the claim that our broadcasters and the BCCI benefit from such matches, the fact remains that they are already highly profitable through the IPL and other bilateral series. These ventures alone generate substantial revenue, ensuring financial stability without relying on India-Pakistan games.
 
There is a level of desperation that you can see from folks like Madan Lal, who are trying to beg Pakistan to agree to hybrid model by using one excuse or another. Odd behavior for a supposed bully.
 
Former Pakistan Test captain Salman Butt, during a media interaction:

“PCB's stance regarding the Champions Trophy is correct. The entire Champions Trophy should be in Pakistan, it is our right."

“As former cricketers, we should back the PCB’s stance.”

“If we can tour India, then they should also visit Pakistan.”

“We will welcome India here. If the whole world can visit Pakistan, then so can India.”

“Our stance is very clear, It’s not acceptable that we play cricket in India, and they don’t play cricket here. Whatever happens, it will be on the basis of equality.”
 
PCB tried to pull the same stunt when they pulled out of IPL 2009. IPL moved on and became bigger but without its cricketers lol
 
Saurav said:
PCB tried to pull the same stunt when they pulled out of IPL 2009. IPL moved on and became bigger but without its cricketers lol
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There is no comparison between franchise cricket and major ICC events.

ICC and the broadcasters needs India v Pakistan to make it successful.
 
Slim said:
There is a level of desperation that you can see from folks like Madan Lal, who are trying to beg Pakistan to agree to hybrid model by using one excuse or another. Odd behavior for a supposed bully.
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Absolutely. Madan Lal will not say a word about riots in Delhi in 2020, other political protest in India like farmers protest in Haryana, Punjab & UP where several people killed.

Every single Pakistani cricketer (former & current) must fully back PCB & government on one voice irrespective of the outcome. No need to give welcoming statements about hospitality and food blah blah
 
zaidihusain said:
Absolutely. Madan Lal will not say a word about riots in Delhi in 2020, other political protest in India like farmers protest in Haryana, Punjab & UP where several people killed.

Every single Pakistani cricketer (former & current) must fully back PCB & government on one voice irrespective of the outcome. No need to give welcoming statements about hospitality and food blah blah
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Not to mention when firebrand hindutva Bal Thackeray threatened to stop the Pakistan cricket team from playing in India during the 2012 series. The same guy who got dignitaries such as Sachin and Amitabh Bachan honouring his funeral.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not to mention when firebrand hindutva Bal Thackeray threatened to stop the Pakistan cricket team from playing in India during the 2012 series. The same guy who got dignitaries such as Sachin and Amitabh Bachan honouring his funeral.
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Balsaheb died before that series was announced.
 
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