Not just that cricket is played by way more countries now than 20 years back. Only two additional teams play test cricket compared to 20 years back whereas more than 75 countries play T20s in the same period. There is no way cricket would spread around the world with tests and ODIS
That is golden. I want more of itPCB has two options -
1. Be sensible, agree for the hybrid model (with some backdoor concessions provided) and keep getting that moolah from the ICC on an yearly basis to sustain their pockets.
2. Lose the hosting rights altogether, boycott the ICC to save face infront of their gullible emotional awaam and then proceed to play an year-long "Champions Cup" to let their fans enjoy Shadab Khan's full tosses getting deposited into the 55 M boundaries by Azam Khan infront of 200 people sitting on concrete stairs.
Choice is theirs.
I didn't. You should express your views as personal opinions rather than speaking for all Pakistanis. You should see that there are individuals like @Shafi who have different views on mixing sports and politics, especially when it comes to Israel.
A Pakistani was angry at his opinion made around 25 years ago. Why are you not quoting him but instead attacking the one responding to him?
Nope. I am in no capacity to speak on behalf of everybody. I am describing a vision for what could be not what is.
@Farabi you did speak for all Pakistanis here.
Sentiments in both countries have shifted since the 90s. Most Pakistanis, based on my experience, don’t support isolating India in cricket, as shown by offers for bilateral series and past tours. Peace with India aligns with the majority’s wishes, reflected in voting trends and political party manifestos. While not all Pakistanis want peace, and Pakistan has its faults, our focus should be on fostering peace and prosperity, encouraging people-to-people connections, and using sports to build bridges.
How do you know what the sentiments are in India. If anything Indian sentiments has hardened
Its just begging for money. Pak will gladly take the money and not play. Thats why they tried suing in 2018
Its not a desire for peace in paksitan. Its is economic reality biting them in the ass and they would like to get as much as they can from India.
In regards to
In regards to your last point how do you know what Pakistanis stop spreading lies and focus on your HinduStan
Because Pakistani attitudes softened when they could no longer afford to ignore India. When Indian economy was weak, they have ignored india and Indian players, often mocked them. There are multiple videos of Pakistani players (current and former) mocking India and Indian economy.
Completely false, cricket has devolved and regressed to an Indian sport. White countries have lost interest. Even the so called expansion is basically indian expats in different countries forming their team. Indians are literally in every nook and corner of the world, such is their population and strong desire to leave their country. A good example is Iceland cricket, where in a remote country like iceland, their cricket is run by indians. Lol. Indian population being a menance to the world is another topic. But this is such a false statement. Cricket has regressed as a sport, and due to ICC/BCCI greed of organizing continuous global tournament is losing its charm as well.
I hope Pakistan can Boycott ICC events atleast for once because this delusion must end at some point when ICC successfully ( Financial ) host a icc tournaments without Pakistan.
You can call and have whatever opinion you want, what I stated are facts. There are more teams playing cricket now than 25 years back. While we added two test playing nations we have added 75+ T20 playing nations. If their cricket is run by the Indians it proves my point more. Not only has the game expanded, India has played a decisive role in expanding it. You will have to live with that
you are banging your head against the wall. he hates india.
If your facts are framing bunch of canadian indians, american indians playing against other Indians as “expansion of the game” then you my sir are absolutely spot on lol
Pakistan can lose to any team and beat England the next day. Thats the level of the current team. So i dont care. I fear the day when they will be more patels and kumars playing for england and australia than john and kevin. That will be the true death of cricket.
is it okay if more Moeens and Rashids play for England ?
Cricket has always been a common wealth sport. For the first time in my life, I have come across everyday Americans knowing about cricket, despite. up until now cricket was mocked in USA. Atleast now there is a recognition that cricket is an exciting sport thanks to t20.
I am enjoying our conversation.
Maybe Pressure tactics on ICC before crucial boards metting .only few hours left so yes let's wait.
Now that's a PCB the pakistanis want to see. Under no circumstances, PCB should give up their right.... Even if it means boycotting CT, then be it! When it comes to ethics and morality, nothing can be compromised and PCB has chosen the right path in this.... PCB should threaten that if ICC takes away the right, Pakistan will boycott CT altogether. That will bring ICC to their knees. These dudes don't know with whom they are messing with.
What are your sources ?
That's fair.
That is absolutely fair.
But BCCI yes. Everyone knows that.
Seems fair but I don't think anyone at ICC or BCCI will agree to it. But Naqvi and Pakistani media will claim that and BCCI and ICC will ignore these unofficial claims. and Next year, PCB will again begin the routine dance of being betrayed and unfair life.
Off course when you have money and power you can make day to night or vise versa. Nothing surprise. Even Fearon called himself GOD and people worshipped him back then.
That's fair
why did SL A leave tour mid way?
You are saying Pakistan is not safe?
I don't think there's any doubt that the India-Pakistan game is very valuable at this point of time. The Indian market has been utterly monopolised with
Pakistan Can't even host two list A game against SL A than how can they host big tournaments like ICC champion trophy?
then why did SL A leave?
tour of SL A is insignificant. it was postponed because Lahore and Karachi are undergoing renovation and not available. And due to protest situation in ISB , PCB decided to not take any risk over meaningless games. is it that hard to undersrand?
There's no point in trying to make them understand, they're clearly here with an agenda. The best treatment is give them taste of of their own medicine then they disappear for a bit and then come back for more
Meeting postponed till tomorrow, go watch newsWho told you these things?
Metting is postponed but i ask who told you that Pakistan might be not Play champion trophy yet they receive the income as host nation??
BCCI VP Rajiv Shukla floated this idea, CT may shift to SA , PCB to boycott it , BCCi will lollipop them with profits received to keep PCB in ICC loopMetting is postponed but i ask who told you that Pakistan might be not Play champion trophy yet they receive the income as host nation??
You said Pakistan might not play champion trophy means Pakistan will boycott.
gajab banda hThat demand of pcb will never be entertained.
So India can do whatever they want!!! Typical Indian follower
Whatever small leverage pcb may have here is due to broadcaster( no proof so far).
Won't go by anything an indians says let's start from the beginning.
Came directly out of the horses mouth there is video on you tube only desperate frustrated and delusional are the indiansSource - delusion fans.
Wait for official news .
The only fantasy is champions trophy happening in PakistanWon't go by anything an indians says let's start from the beginning.
Champions trophy to be shifted to SA
Champions trophy to be shifted to India
Sri Lanka replacing India
Champions trophy to be shifted to UAE
Champions trophy in hybrid model
Mohsin Naqvi is just playing the public and will accept hybrid model.
On Friday mohsin naqvi will be voted out
Some of the fantasies by the Indians
The main point is that the SL A team was compelled to leave the tour and it was because of the PTI protests. The PTI protests occurred when the Head of State of Belarus was in the country, and their primary intention was to gain international attention. So there is a possibility of them creating disruptions in Lahore and Karachi when the CT is being played there.
We’ll see about that.The only fantasy is champions trophy happening in Pakistan
You really seem to have a lot faith in the ICC. They are as incompetent and corrupt as they come.
I think your being naive icc can't come out with a statement
you mean aus ,eng ,nz ,sl ,sa and afghanistan are refusing to send its team to ct in pak for security reason .if it is not true than bcci reason will look stupid as it comes .
The claim that nobody wants to come to Pakistan is just a desperate fantasy pushed by Indians.
Two Plans To Be Proposed At ICC Champions Trophy Meet. Report Says 1 Will See Final In Pakistan
On Friday, the ICC and all its stakeholders will convene virtually for an important meeting to discuss the 2025 Champions Trophy dates and venue. By now, those aspects should have been finalised, but the BCCI's reluctance to send the Indian cricket team to Pakistan, the designated hosts, and the Pakistan Cricket Board's refusal to accept a hybrid model of hosting have complicated matters. On Friday, representatives from 12 ICC full member countries, three from associate nations, an independent director along with the ICC chairman and CEO are likely to be part of the meeting.
According to a report in the Indian Express, the ICC may place two plans in front of the panel. The first one is to hold three of India's group stage games, one semi-final and the final in a neutral country - with UAE a likely choice due to its geographical proximity to Pakistan (making it easier for other teams to travel to and fro rom the country). The second plan is that if Indian cricket team does not qualify for knockouts, both semi-finals and final take place in Pakistan.
A voting may also take place among the member boards. The majority's decision will be the final one and then PCB will have to decide its course. According to reports, the 19-day window for the tournament is February 19 to March 9.
Meanwhile, former India cricketer Aakash Chopra said that next year's Champions Trophy, scheduled to be played in Pakistan, can't happen without India's participation in the tournament. He further backed the Indian government's decision not to send the national cricket team to Pakistan due to security and political tensions between the neighbours.
The right choice should be made and it is beyond our understanding what would be the right call. India's travel to Pakistan is not decided by the BCCI but by the Indian government. If they have decided not to travel to Pakistan then it is completely right. Wherever it (Champions Trophy) will be played, it can't happen without India," Chopra told IANS on Thursday.
"The truth is that an ICC event can't happen without India. We'll get to know where it will be played and the decision taken by the Indian government is absolutely correct," he added.
Two Plans To Be Proposed At ICC Champions Trophy Meet. Report Says 1 Will See Final In Pakistan | Cricket News
According to reports, the 19-day window for the 2025 Champions Trophy is February 19 to March 9.sports.ndtv.com
I have no idea about other countries protocol but aus ,nz,eng follow strick government advisory and if their is tiny bit issue they will pulled out
I wouldn’t trust that news; it’s from an Indian site trying to fool their public into making them think they are having a hybrid model
The official statement was given by Mohsin Naqvi himself, and he clearly expressed his views in a video. These are his own words, not something reported by any news website. So, I’ll go with that. No, it’s not out of desperation like you claim, unlike what you Indians often resort to.
He didnt say any news he said he does not trust Indian site or news comings from Indian and rightyly so it can never be trusted
