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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

The PCB punched well above its weight and managed to tackle the elephant in the room, the mighty BCCI. Moral of the story: never back down without a fight. The PCB stood firm on hosting their tournament, securing a hybrid model they were more than willing to accept as long as it also applied to tournaments hosted by India. In the end, they pulled off the unthinkable, bringing the powerful BCCI to its knees. Not a great day for us Indian fans, both on and off the field. :inti


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So I heard that apparently when Pakistan made a bid for the CT they made a joint bid(s) with Bangladesh and/or Sri Lanka too (not sure if it was one or both), probably knowing full well that this tamasha would occur. And instead ICC awarded Pakistan the full tournament!

I don't think there is a more useless and powerless governing sports organization in the world than the ICC.

Glorified event organizing body that isn't even in control of its own events anymore.
 
Rana said:
So if it’s going to be hybrid then they should at least try to get a proper group for Cat A matches

Pakistan fans will only get to see Pak v NZ and Pak v Bangladesh at home? Might as well boycott the tournament!

Get South Africa and Australia in your group
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This should be a motivator for Pakistan to ensure at least one semi is in Pakistan.
 
A surprise is awaiting for certain fans After hearing that surprise they Will say " Bhaijaan ye kya ho gya"

:kp
 
Local.Dada said:
India is not a poor country. It is an extremely wealthy country with a lot of poor people living in it. It’s the 5th largest economy on its way to becoming 4th this year and has the most number of billionaires living who can buy most of the cricket playing countries 2-3 times over even outside of cricket .
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Yeah yeah yeah. I probably sound like that mug Rahul Gandhi, but mathematically speaking if you just remove 2 people (Ambani and Adani), our per capita income slides down to the level of sub-Saharan African countries. Mind you, we're not much better even with them.
 
BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) representatives on Thursday turned down the Pakistan Cricket Board’s (PCB) proposal of adopting the “partnership formula” for the next three years as part of efforts of breaking the ongoing deadlock between the two parties over next year’s ICC Champions Trophy, sources have revealed.

With the BCCI having unofficially communicated to the tournament organisers International Cricket Council (ICC) last month about the Indian government’s refusal to allow the country’s cricket team to visit host Pakistan, a hybrid model was reported to have been agreed upon earlier this week.

The model, in its originality would have seen India play their Champions Trophy matches at a neutral venue, while the rest of the tournament is held in Pakistan. The PCB, however, had added a ***-for-tat condition to it; Pakistan would also play their matches at neutral venues when India host an ICC tournament in the future — it being dubbed as the “partnership formula”.

PCB initially wanted the condition to be applied until the end of the current Future Tours Programme cycle of the ICC, which culminates with the 2031 Cricket World Cup. With the BCCI disagreeing to it, its Pakistan counterpart proposed the same for the next three years.

On Thursday, just ahead of yet another scheduled ICC board meeting in Dubai to resolve the issue, PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi, who was in the emirate, had made an enquiry if the BCCI would agree with the latest proposition.

With the answer in negative, Mohsin decided there was no purpose behind engaging and hence the meeting was postponed, further delaying clarity over the fate of the Champions Trophy, which is scheduled to be held in Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi from Feb 19-Mar 9 next year.

Amid political tensions between the two neighbours, the BCCI has stood firm by the Indian government’s policy of not engaging with Pakistan in terms of bilateral cricket over the years.

However, after having played the last bilateral series against each other in 2012, Pakistan and India have competed in ICC tournaments and the Asia Cup. Pakistan, in fact, visited India to feature in the ICC World Cup last year.

The visit, if anything, heightened expectations of India returning the favour by touring Pakistan for the Champions Trophy. But with that not being a realistic possibility and the hybrid model established as the only way out, the PCB wants things to be done “equal terms” as Mohsin said last week.

The Champions Trophy issue has coincided with BCCI secretary Jay Shah taking charge as the ICC president on Dec 1. It is understood that Shah, son of Indian home minister Amit — a key leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP, the country’s ruling party — tried his best to delay his arrival to office until the deadlock between the Pakistan and India’s cricket representatives was broken. The issue, however, continued.

Sources said the PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”. Meanwhile, however, broadcasters are pressurising the ICC to release the Champions Trophy schedule, with the tournament less than three months away.

www.dawn.com

BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Sources say PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”.
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FearlessRoar said:
BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) representatives on Thursday turned down the Pakistan Cricket Board’s (PCB) proposal of adopting the “partnership formula” for the next three years as part of efforts of breaking the ongoing deadlock between the two parties over next year’s ICC Champions Trophy, sources have revealed.

With the BCCI having unofficially communicated to the tournament organisers International Cricket Council (ICC) last month about the Indian government’s refusal to allow the country’s cricket team to visit host Pakistan, a hybrid model was reported to have been agreed upon earlier this week.

The model, in its originality would have seen India play their Champions Trophy matches at a neutral venue, while the rest of the tournament is held in Pakistan. The PCB, however, had added a ***-for-tat condition to it; Pakistan would also play their matches at neutral venues when India host an ICC tournament in the future — it being dubbed as the “partnership formula”.

PCB initially wanted the condition to be applied until the end of the current Future Tours Programme cycle of the ICC, which culminates with the 2031 Cricket World Cup. With the BCCI disagreeing to it, its Pakistan counterpart proposed the same for the next three years.

On Thursday, just ahead of yet another scheduled ICC board meeting in Dubai to resolve the issue, PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi, who was in the emirate, had made an enquiry if the BCCI would agree with the latest proposition.

With the answer in negative, Mohsin decided there was no purpose behind engaging and hence the meeting was postponed, further delaying clarity over the fate of the Champions Trophy, which is scheduled to be held in Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi from Feb 19-Mar 9 next year.

Amid political tensions between the two neighbours, the BCCI has stood firm by the Indian government’s policy of not engaging with Pakistan in terms of bilateral cricket over the years.

However, after having played the last bilateral series against each other in 2012, Pakistan and India have competed in ICC tournaments and the Asia Cup. Pakistan, in fact, visited India to feature in the ICC World Cup last year.

The visit, if anything, heightened expectations of India returning the favour by touring Pakistan for the Champions Trophy. But with that not being a realistic possibility and the hybrid model established as the only way out, the PCB wants things to be done “equal terms” as Mohsin said last week.

The Champions Trophy issue has coincided with BCCI secretary Jay Shah taking charge as the ICC president on Dec 1. It is understood that Shah, son of Indian home minister Amit — a key leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP, the country’s ruling party — tried his best to delay his arrival to office until the deadlock between the Pakistan and India’s cricket representatives was broken. The issue, however, continued.

Sources said the PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”. Meanwhile, however, broadcasters are pressurising the ICC to release the Champions Trophy schedule, with the tournament less than three months away.

www.dawn.com

BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Sources say PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”.
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What a joke this board is
 
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FearlessRoar said:
BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) representatives on Thursday turned down the Pakistan Cricket Board’s (PCB) proposal of adopting the “partnership formula” for the next three years as part of efforts of breaking the ongoing deadlock between the two parties over next year’s ICC Champions Trophy, sources have revealed.

With the BCCI having unofficially communicated to the tournament organisers International Cricket Council (ICC) last month about the Indian government’s refusal to allow the country’s cricket team to visit host Pakistan, a hybrid model was reported to have been agreed upon earlier this week.

The model, in its originality would have seen India play their Champions Trophy matches at a neutral venue, while the rest of the tournament is held in Pakistan. The PCB, however, had added a ***-for-tat condition to it; Pakistan would also play their matches at neutral venues when India host an ICC tournament in the future — it being dubbed as the “partnership formula”.

PCB initially wanted the condition to be applied until the end of the current Future Tours Programme cycle of the ICC, which culminates with the 2031 Cricket World Cup. With the BCCI disagreeing to it, its Pakistan counterpart proposed the same for the next three years.

On Thursday, just ahead of yet another scheduled ICC board meeting in Dubai to resolve the issue, PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi, who was in the emirate, had made an enquiry if the BCCI would agree with the latest proposition.

With the answer in negative, Mohsin decided there was no purpose behind engaging and hence the meeting was postponed, further delaying clarity over the fate of the Champions Trophy, which is scheduled to be held in Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi from Feb 19-Mar 9 next year.

Amid political tensions between the two neighbours, the BCCI has stood firm by the Indian government’s policy of not engaging with Pakistan in terms of bilateral cricket over the years.

However, after having played the last bilateral series against each other in 2012, Pakistan and India have competed in ICC tournaments and the Asia Cup. Pakistan, in fact, visited India to feature in the ICC World Cup last year.

The visit, if anything, heightened expectations of India returning the favour by touring Pakistan for the Champions Trophy. But with that not being a realistic possibility and the hybrid model established as the only way out, the PCB wants things to be done “equal terms” as Mohsin said last week.

The Champions Trophy issue has coincided with BCCI secretary Jay Shah taking charge as the ICC president on Dec 1. It is understood that Shah, son of Indian home minister Amit — a key leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP, the country’s ruling party — tried his best to delay his arrival to office until the deadlock between the Pakistan and India’s cricket representatives was broken. The issue, however, continued.

Sources said the PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”. Meanwhile, however, broadcasters are pressurising the ICC to release the Champions Trophy schedule, with the tournament less than three months away.

www.dawn.com

BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Sources say PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”.
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Why would BCCI disagree to this? This is a very fair demand from PCB.

It again shows how problematic and destructive BCCI is for world cricket.
 
Hold on a minute

some were claiming it’s a win-win situation for India: they avoid visiting Pakistan and don’t want Pakistanis in India.

However, the reality seems different. Indians are not only desprete for a Pakistan vs. India match but are also desperate for Pakistan to visit India.
 
Major said:
is it a developed nation?

Are there people sleeping on foothpath? Is there poverty in India? Do Indian makes salary equal to an American in US?
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Foolish equivalence. I have lived in both India and USA. By the same account something like cilantro/kandha is given away for free by some vegetable vendors in India, it costs $5 bucks in USA. Yes poor people in India and India is not as powerful as USA or China but definetely a next tier power and has more say in world diplomacy than most of Europe and even Uk. Read the news and form opinions outside of PP.
 
Local.Dada said:
Foolish equivalence. I have lived in both India and USA. By the same account something like cilantro/kandha is given away for free by some vegetable vendors in India, it costs $5 bucks in USA. Yes poor people in India and India is not as powerful as USA or China but definetely a next tier power and has more say in world diplomacy than most of Europe and even Uk. Read the news and form opinions outside of PP.
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thinks india is rich
 
Why can’t PCB just boycott all ICC events in this cycle? It’s not like they are going to win any one of them.

This is getting ridiculous

Let ICC and BCCI do what they want
 
If anyone thinks BCCI will agree to hybrid model for any of its future events they are deluding themselves. Considering WT20 2026 will be co-hosted by SL, at max all Pak games (excluding the one against India) and one semi final will be in SL. That was always going to be the case irrespective of PCBs demand. However, there is no way ICC/BCCI will let go the final from 100k capacity stadium of Ahmedabad infront of whose who and host it in Colombo for the sake of Pakistan. I can only laugh at the naivety of some people.

Same assurances were given before hosting Asia cup in hybrid model and WC 2023 that come CT 2025 Indian team will travel to Pakistan.

As I said before, PCB should never have accepted hybrid model this time come what may and tested the waters.
 
So after the Indian media declared victory, the shameless BCCI now reject PCB claims.

This story is the gift that keeps on giving!

LOL!
 
Rana said:
Why can’t PCB just boycott all ICC events in this cycle? It’s not like they are going to win any one of them.

This is getting ridiculous

Let ICC and BCCI do what they want
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Nothing in India media's about BCCI turned down this new proposal .

Don't know how is DAWN reporting that News's
 
Rajdeep said:
If anyone thinks BCCI will agree to hybrid model for any of its future events they are deluding themselves. Considering WT20 2026 will be co-hosted by SL, at max all Pak games (excluding the one against India) and one semi final will be in SL. That was always going to be the case irrespective of PCBs demand. However, there is no way ICC/BCCI will let go the final from 100k capacity stadium of Ahmedabad infront of whose who and host it in Colombo for the sake of Pakistan. I can only laugh at the naivety of some people.

Same assurances were given before hosting Asia cup in hybrid model and WC 2023 that come CT 2025 Indian team will travel to Pakistan.

As I said before, PCB should never have accepted hybrid model this time come what may and tested the waters.
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So why can’t you just let Pakistan boycott all the events?
 
It feels like BCCI wants to treat PCB like an Abusive husband who doesn’t love his first wife but won’t let her go either!
 
Rana said:
It feels like BCCI wants to treat PCB like an Abusive husband who doesn’t love his first wife but won’t let her go either!
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Exactly.

BCCI and Indian fans are very entitled. They want everything and everyone to revolve around them.
 
Wth is Naqvi doing? Why is he over complicating this crap?

The guys who he thinks he is negotiating with are not bloody serious. Guy is behaving like a clown
 
This will look good for BCCI if only they can further humiliate PCB and drag their faces in the mud.

But I'm not sure how that is possible.

Anyway, good luck to BCCI .
 
Rana said:
Why can’t PCB just boycott all ICC events in this cycle? It’s not like they are going to win any one of them.

This is getting ridiculous

Let ICC and BCCI do what they want
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I think all nations should leave ICC and form a new cricket alliance.

ICC and BCCI can play with themselves.
 
Local.Dada said:
Absolutely rich. Foreign reserves of nearly a 700 billion.

Now I know the next set of events because of your limited argumentative skills

toilet problems in India: yes but Pakistan has that. It’s a touchy issue for your mod I guess as he keeps deleting the article from dawn I post whenever someone gives me the same rhetoric. For what it’s worth our stable governments have done a lot of good job here.

Poor people/ crime/ terrorism- yes but not even a drop in the ocean compared to Pakistan

Now here is where the victim card comes out: oh but this topic is about India, whay are you bringing in Pak

No, this topic is about India and Pakistan and their relevance in cricket or stature as a world power as you brought it up.

Finally now since you have already exhausted everything at this point

Being on the cow and beef jibes

That’s how this ends up based on your intellect capacity.

Kuch aur hai to bolo, baat karenge 👍 or else don’t bore me
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Why is it that whenever Indians tell everyone about how much India has progressed, every comparison is with Pakistan? If I wanted to tell everyone that I am a good student, I wouldn't be comparing myself to the student in my class who flunks every exam. Unless ofcourse that's the only student I can actually compare myself to and come out looking good.
 
Now watch Indian posters dance to another tune that their crazy board is playing for them.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
So I heard that apparently when Pakistan made a bid for the CT they made a joint bid(s) with Bangladesh and/or Sri Lanka too (not sure if it was one or both), probably knowing full well that this tamasha would occur. And instead ICC awarded Pakistan the full tournament!

I don't think there is a more useless and powerless governing sports organization in the world than the ICC.

Glorified event organizing body that isn't even in control of its own events anymore.
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And? What's wrong with that? You keep harping on about the good of the game, you don't think Pakistan deserve to host full tournaments to better the game in Pakistan? Or you think BCCI are within full rights but to hell with the rights of the other boards?

Look at it from your Indian angle. BCCI knew full well the CT was happening in Pakistan, their own members.cleared Pakistan security arrangements, but Jay Shah refusing to visit Pakistan at the 11th hour was what? A warning shot?
 
btw Dawn article seems based on old news. Let's wait and see though but it seems like its not up to date.
 
Nabeel23 said:
Bro, India bring in around 80%-90% of the revenue, without them Cricket will be dead..
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Oh please , this new found money didn't exist before, and Cricket was alive and well. Even T20 was invented by ECB. Pakistan cricket was meant to be finished too, what happened?

Don't need India's money, but you definitely need Pakistan for the readies.
 
Dawn news article is fake or maybe they are still reporting old news

BCCI has agreed but one suprised is still awaiting .

:kp
 
Already too.much negative publicity of CT , PCB needs to be extra careful when hosting the Pakistan leg, padosis shararat kr skty ha
 
Rana said:
Wth is Naqvi doing? Why is he over complicating this crap?

The guys who he thinks he is negotiating with are not bloody serious. Guy is behaving like a clown
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Can you relax? Stop this weird wrist slitting. You are asking Pakistan to boycott all tournaments when the final decision has not even been made? Why should we boycott a tournament that we are supposed to host until they really force our hand?
 
Kianig89 said:
Already too.much negative publicity of CT , PCB needs to be extra careful when hosting the Pakistan leg, padosis shararat kr skty ha
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The only negativity around CT is India. I really hope they get knocked out early on so we dont have to hear from their insufferable fans.
 
Suleiman said:
BCCI is the worst thing to ever happen to cricket. It’s what’s holding cricket back from what it could be.
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Yes ,BCCI was behind the security situation of pakistan or Sri Lanka cricket teams attacked by terrorists in pakistan .

Yes ,BCCI is behind PCT becomes borderline minnow and losing against part timer player's


Yes, BCCI is behind stoping the growth rate of cricket becouse every other boards are generation more revenues for ICC which ICC disturbing to associate nations.

Want more reasons ,why is BCCI holding back cricket or these few examples are enough .



:kp
 
Slim said:
Can you relax? Stop this weird wrist slitting. You are asking Pakistan to boycott all tournaments when the final decision has not even been made? Why should we boycott a tournament that we are supposed to host until they really force our hand?
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This is not hosting a tournament

This is a joke! Pakistanis need to wake up, what is this rubbish? They don’t want to take you seriously so let them have their tournament and shove it where they want
 
Major said:
Pakistan is hosting the Champions tropghy while India being a big contributer.
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Because Rameez Raja convinced Ganguly. Ganguly no longer remains involved in cricket administration. And the next 8 year ftp will be out in 2027-28 covering 8 years from 2032-39.

Jay Shah will still be ICC chairman.

Modi will still be PM.

This is if the reports are true that India and Pakistan both will follow hybrid model
emranabbas said:
This arrangement is in place until 2027, as the Indian broadcaster Disney holds the ICC broadcasting rights until then.
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Half truths. JioStar formerly Disney Star holds rights to Indian territory.

Even after 2027 a Indian broadcaster will hold rights to Indian territory.

That will not change.

PCB tried to get this arrangement till.2031, couldn't.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Oh please , this new found money didn't exist before, and Cricket was alive and well. Even T20 was invented by ECB. Pakistan cricket was meant to be finished too, what happened?

Don't need India's money, but you definitely need Pakistan for the readies.
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I am just being realistic, the sport isn't as big as it once was in the Western Countries. Its pretty much a South Asian sport and its a business run on money, not charity. Indian sponsors bring in 90% of the money in the sport so they have the most say whether we like it or not.

Rather than trying to play *** for tat, we should be looking to grow our Cricket ie PSL, bring in more sponsors, get a better TV rights deal.
 
Major said:
is it a developed nation?

Are there people sleeping on foothpath? Is there poverty in India? Do Indian makes salary equal to an American in US?
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Doesn't matter. Indians still pay more than anyone for Cricket rights and rest of the world survives on it.
 
Hellion said:
That was in T20. ODIs are a different kettle of fish.
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In ODI, Pakistan have a superior head to head record against India.

Pakistan also won the last bilateral ODI series against India (2012-2013 Aane Do series).
 
sweep_shot said:
In ODI, Pakistan have a superior head to head record against India.

Pakistan also won the last bilateral ODI series against India (2012-2013 Aane Do series).
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The superior record is due to us being the better team in the 80s and 90s and in that era we used to play a lot games like the Sharjah Cup, Toronto Cup etc.

Since 2003, India have had the upper hand and if there was no ban, they would have surpassed the head 2 head in all three formats.
 
sweep_shot said:
In ODI, Pakistan have a superior head to head record against India.

Pakistan also won the last bilateral ODI series against India (2012-2013 Aane Do series).
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When Last time India - pakistan were face each other in UAE , Indian team humiliated them twice in a week. ( India team played without prime Kohli)

You can check Asia cup 2018 scoreboards :shh:kp
 
sweep_shot said:
In ODI, Pakistan have a superior head to head record against India.

Pakistan also won the last bilateral ODI series against India (2012-2013 Aane Do series).
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Last 12 matches between these 2 sides reads 9-2 to India with 1 match rained off .
 
FearlessRoar said:
BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) representatives on Thursday turned down the Pakistan Cricket Board’s (PCB) proposal of adopting the “partnership formula” for the next three years as part of efforts of breaking the ongoing deadlock between the two parties over next year’s ICC Champions Trophy, sources have revealed.

With the BCCI having unofficially communicated to the tournament organisers International Cricket Council (ICC) last month about the Indian government’s refusal to allow the country’s cricket team to visit host Pakistan, a hybrid model was reported to have been agreed upon earlier this week.

The model, in its originality would have seen India play their Champions Trophy matches at a neutral venue, while the rest of the tournament is held in Pakistan. The PCB, however, had added a ***-for-tat condition to it; Pakistan would also play their matches at neutral venues when India host an ICC tournament in the future — it being dubbed as the “partnership formula”.

PCB initially wanted the condition to be applied until the end of the current Future Tours Programme cycle of the ICC, which culminates with the 2031 Cricket World Cup. With the BCCI disagreeing to it, its Pakistan counterpart proposed the same for the next three years.

On Thursday, just ahead of yet another scheduled ICC board meeting in Dubai to resolve the issue, PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi, who was in the emirate, had made an enquiry if the BCCI would agree with the latest proposition.

With the answer in negative, Mohsin decided there was no purpose behind engaging and hence the meeting was postponed, further delaying clarity over the fate of the Champions Trophy, which is scheduled to be held in Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi from Feb 19-Mar 9 next year.

Amid political tensions between the two neighbours, the BCCI has stood firm by the Indian government’s policy of not engaging with Pakistan in terms of bilateral cricket over the years.

However, after having played the last bilateral series against each other in 2012, Pakistan and India have competed in ICC tournaments and the Asia Cup. Pakistan, in fact, visited India to feature in the ICC World Cup last year.

The visit, if anything, heightened expectations of India returning the favour by touring Pakistan for the Champions Trophy. But with that not being a realistic possibility and the hybrid model established as the only way out, the PCB wants things to be done “equal terms” as Mohsin said last week.

The Champions Trophy issue has coincided with BCCI secretary Jay Shah taking charge as the ICC president on Dec 1. It is understood that Shah, son of Indian home minister Amit — a key leader of the Hindu nationalist BJP, the country’s ruling party — tried his best to delay his arrival to office until the deadlock between the Pakistan and India’s cricket representatives was broken. The issue, however, continued.

Sources said the PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”. Meanwhile, however, broadcasters are pressurising the ICC to release the Champions Trophy schedule, with the tournament less than three months away.

www.dawn.com

BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over Champions Trophy continues

Sources say PCB has come to realise its role in the ICC’s politics and is playing all its cards to “bring India to the breaking point”.
www.dawn.com
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I've already stated that this is unfair.

Post in thread '[Report] BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 continues [Post Updated #4091]' https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tinues-post-updated-4091.315758/post-12395422


Nothing fair about it.

For India, it's a compulsion. There was never a threat to Pakistan team nor in history of India, any visiting team had to face gunmen targeting them.

For pakistan, it's a luxury and petty validation. Just because India does it, so I HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE IT GIVES ME SENSE OF EQUALITY.

But everyone forgets that current situation would not have arisen if Kargil didn't happen, if 2009 attack didn't happen.
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BCCI has every right to reject these petty laughable demands from PCB.
 
Slim said:
The only negativity around CT is India. I really hope they get knocked out early on so we dont have to hear from their insufferable fans.
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Genuine question but how can this side gets kicked out early:

Playing XI -
Rohit Sharma
Shubhman Gill
Virat Kohli
Shreyas Iyer
KL Rahul
Rishab Pant
Hardik Pandya
Axar Patel
Kuldeep Yadav
Mohammed Shami
Jasprit Bumrah

Reserves -
Yashasvi Jaiswal
Mohammed Siraj
Ravindra Jadeja
Nitish Kumar Reddy

Did you not follow WC 2023?

India will be run away Champions in the upcoming CT irrespective of where it is getting played.
 
If what Dawn is reporting is true then it would already be on Sports Tak and other Indian media outlets.
 
emranabbas said:
why are Indian media reporting hybrid accepted and Pakistani media reporting not accepted?
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In last 24 hours another than Dawn, all other media outlets from both sides are reporting the hybrid model has been accepted by both sides

This is the latest article from ESPN Cricinfo from 7 hours ago.

www.espncricinfo.com

ICC, PCB move closer to adopting hybrid model for Champions Trophy and beyond

ESPNcricinfo understands the proposal emerged on Thursday after meetings between the new ICC chair Jay Shah and PCB chair Mohsin Naqvi
www.espncricinfo.com www.espncricinfo.com

Nothing mentioned about the model being refused.
 
Itachi said:
I've already stated that this is unfair.

Post in thread '[Report] BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 continues [Post Updated #4091]' https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tinues-post-updated-4091.315758/post-12395422




BCCI has every right to reject these petty laughable demands from PCB.
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It's clear from the furious reactions of Indian fans that Pakistan isn't safe.

Sri Lankans may have been targeted by terrorism, but that is many years ago. It is like saying that all hotels in Mumbai remain unsafe to this day.

Indian government's stance is very obviously nothing to do with security. Even the Indians know this. You guys did the same topi drama in tennis but when ITA made you go you sent your team.

So if you want to see a laughable situation i will outline it for you.

India: Pakistan is unsafe for our tennis team.
ITA: Nah, it's safe. Make sure you go, or we will dock you points.
India : OK, here we go we will go to Pakistan.

Time for cricket and Pakistan becomes unsafe again based on these imaginary threats. Only difference is India can throw its weight around in cricket but can't in tennis.
 
Rajdeep said:
If anyone thinks BCCI will agree to hybrid model for any of its future events they are deluding themselves. Considering WT20 2026 will be co-hosted by SL, at max all Pak games (excluding the one against India) and one semi final will be in SL. That was always going to be the case irrespective of PCBs demand. However, there is no way ICC/BCCI will let go the final from 100k capacity stadium of Ahmedabad infront of whose who and host it in Colombo for the sake of Pakistan. I can only laugh at the naivety of some people.

Same assurances were given before hosting Asia cup in hybrid model and WC 2023 that come CT 2025 Indian team will travel to Pakistan.

As I said before, PCB should never have accepted hybrid model this time come what may and tested the waters.
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Best time to refuse to play India then.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's clear from the furious reactions of Indian fans that Pakistan isn't safe.

Sri Lankans may have been targeted by terrorism, but that is many years ago. It is like saying that all hotels in Mumbai remain unsafe to this day.

Indian government's stance is very obviously nothing to do with security. Even the Indians know this. You guys did the same topi drama in tennis but when ITA made you go you sent your team.

So if you want to see a laughable situation i will outline it for you.

India: Pakistan is unsafe for our tennis team.
ITA: Nah, it's safe. Make sure you go, or we will dock you points.
India : OK, here we go we will go to Pakistan.

Time for cricket and Pakistan becomes unsafe again based on these imaginary threats. Only difference is India can throw its weight around in cricket but can't in tennis.
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Tennis and cricket has different gravity.

For India or pakistan, a tennis tournament isn't a high profile event. So it's less likely to be targeted.

Cricket is a different ball game in this context.

It'll be very naive to bring the same frame of reference for Tennis and cricket.
 
Itachi said:
Tennis and cricket has different gravity.

For India or pakistan, a tennis tournament isn't a high profile event. So it's less likely to be targeted.

Cricket is a different ball game in this context.

It'll be very naive to bring the same frame of reference for Tennis and cricket.
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So you mean to say that GOI revised their own security guidelines to decide that Pakistan is unsafe, but on second thoughts its not unsafe for tennis, only cricket?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
So you mean to say that GOI revised their own security guidelines to decide that Pakistan is unsafe, but on second thoughts its not unsafe for tennis, only cricket?
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It's called a "guidelines" and not an "act" for a reason. It is implemented in case to case basis.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's clear from the furious reactions of Indian fans that Pakistan isn't safe.

Sri Lankans may have been targeted by terrorism, but that is many years ago. It is like saying that all hotels in Mumbai remain unsafe to this day.

Indian government's stance is very obviously nothing to do with security. Even the Indians know this. You guys did the same topi drama in tennis but when ITA made you go you sent your team.

So if you want to see a laughable situation i will outline it for you.

India: Pakistan is unsafe for our tennis team.
ITA: Nah, it's safe. Make sure you go, or we will dock you points.
India : OK, here we go we will go to Pakistan.

Time for cricket and Pakistan becomes unsafe again based on these imaginary threats. Only difference is India can throw its weight around in cricket but can't in tennis.
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Someone needs to remind these Indian fans of the bombs that went off outside stadiums in previous IPL seasons.

Security is a joke excuse, especially considering India and its domestic terrorism.

It is now known to the world, that BCCI is nothing but a bully, who when faced with rejection, throw their toys out of the pram.
 
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Bachare Indians. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Cannot say no, cannot say yes.

BCCI/India has no moral fibre or backbone. All BCCI has to say is that India is pulling out. That is it. But they cannot, because BCCI is insolvent, and the money is drying up - hence the desperation to play the biggest money earner for India - PAKISTAN!

Add to this the daily threats BCCI receive from its sponsors and media broadcasters. Pass the Kool aid!

Now you all Indians know - Pakistan has India by the crown jewels. India cannot survive without Pakistan, I said this before and I will say it again! India cannot survive without Pakistan.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Pakistan government reserves the same right to implement on case for case basis.
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Ofcourse they do. They have every right.

But in my opinion, PCB is just seeking petty validation.

On one hand, one has a bus with a cricket team getting targeted and attacked by gunman while none such cases in other country.

So obviously former will be held more dangerous than the latter and hence same framework shouldn't be applied.
 
Come to think of it, none of this would have happened had India won the CT17 - the final CT comp in the motherland!

Fast forward, BCCI resurrected the CT to avenge their CT17 humiliation, and as a result desperate to play Pakistan, and even more desperate for Pakistan to play in India.

I might just watch the CT17 highlights! 😂😂😂
 
By the way, where are those so called Pakistan fans who claimed PCB is the bully and PCB should accept India's demand unconditionally?

What analogy was used? AHH yes, patient needs his meds and will have no choice. Well turns out the patient is BCCI and not the PCB.

😎
 
Itachi said:
Ofcourse they do. They have every right.

But in my opinion, PCB is just seeking petty validation.

On one hand, one has a bus with a cricket team getting targeted and attacked by gunman while none such cases in other country.

So obviously former will be held more dangerous than the latter and hence same framework shouldn't be applied.
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As I have said - we haven't had hotels in our main city shot up by terrorists to the extent of Mumbai.

We haven't had planes into buildings like USA.

We haven't had trains blown up like Spain etc etc,

if world can move on from these incidents it can move on from the horrible attack on Sri Lanka team. In cricket terms the whole of cricket world has moved on, has visited Pakistan and played cricket. Only India seems to be applying this framework you seem to think exists ( and only when they have clout).
 
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DeadlyVenom said:
Countries move on from terrorism.

As I have said - we haven't had hotels in our main city shot up by terrorists to the extent of Mumbai.

We haven't had planes into buildings like USA.

We haven't had trains blown up like Spain etc etc,

if world can move on from these incidents it can move on from the horrible attack on Sri Lanka team. In cricket terms the whole of cricket world has moved on, has visited Pakistan and played cricket. Only India seems to be applying this framework you seem to think exists ( and only when they have clout).
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India has every right to assess the security situation from their point of view.

Same goes for Pakistan...

But I'll reiterate the crucial word here. Only in Pakistan, a bus containing cricket team was attacked.

That shows very specific target which hasn't been seen in other countries. If that didn't happen, then opposing argument could have been taken in a more generalise manner.
 
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