[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

[The Bald Eagle]

I just wish India Pakistan don't clash again in CT, deep inside they still haven't forgotten that final and will come at Pakistan like a raging bull.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India has every right to assess the security situation from their point of view.

Same goes for Pakistan...

But I'll reiterate the crucial word here. Only in Pakistan, a bus containing cricket team was attacked.

That shows very specific target which hasn't been seen in other countries. If that didn't happen, then opposing argument could have been taken in a more generalise manner.

So what?

A lot of things only happen in certain countries.

Can we use that logic to no hotel is ever safe again in India?

It is very silly to bring up a tragic incident and weaponise it in this way time and time again when rest of the world is happy to come and Sri Lanka have came multiple times.

India should be bold and tell the truth rather than present these kinds of excuses.

 

[Savak]

India has every right to assess the security situation from their point of view.

Same goes for Pakistan...

But I'll reiterate the crucial word here. Only in Pakistan, a bus containing cricket team was attacked.

That shows very specific target which hasn't been seen in other countries. If that didn't happen, then opposing argument could have been taken in a more generalise manner.

This episode happened in 2009, since then numerous major teams have toured Pakistan without incident. That incident in 2009 cannot be used forever against Pakistan.

 

[Technics 1210]

I just wish India Pakistan don't clash again in CT, deep inside they still haven't forgotten that final and will come at Pakistan like a raging bull.

This is the crux of BCCI's conundrum.

That final was meant to be the last Champions Trophy. We were told there is no Pak/Ind rivalry. Well that final will be etched in the memories of past, present, and future Indian generations.

As for India coming at it like a raging bull - CT17, WC23, and now this stunt - we all herd the same before (see what I did here).

Has to be a bull made of plastic I guess.

 

[emranabbas]

Tennis and cricket has different gravity.

For India or pakistan, a tennis tournament isn't a high profile event. So it's less likely to be targeted.

Cricket is a different ball game in this context.

It'll be very naive to bring the same frame of reference for Tennis and cricket.

read the bold

security threat is a security threat there's no such of thing as likely and less likely its still a risk

tennis players lives are of less value because they are tennis players and cricket players lives have more value because they are cricket players?

 

[Technics 1210]

India/BCCI have no arguments left. Each one dismantled with a dose of humiliation.

India is not safe - even 5-eyes have confirmed this with Indias involvement in international terrorism resulting from India's domestic terrorism agenda.

Boycott India, ban India, ignore India - its a nothing country filled with vengeance and violence.

The world would be a safer place.

 

[emranabbas]

Someone needs to remind these Indian fans of the bombs that went off outside stadiums in previous IPL seasons.

Security is a joke excuse, especially considering India and its domestic terrorism.

It is now known to the world, that BCCI is nothing but a bully, who when faced with rejection, throw their toys out of the pram.

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[emranabbas]

Come to think of it, none of this would have happened had India won the CT17 - the final CT comp in the motherland!

Fast forward, BCCI resurrected the CT to avenge their CT17 humiliation, and as a result desperate to play Pakistan, and even more desperate for Pakistan to play in India.

I might just watch the CT17 highlights!

they are desperate for Pakistan to play in India so they could tamper with the pitches again like they did in 2023

 

[Technics 1210]

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Terrible. India clearly unsafe to host any sport.

Though I would make it 5 on the list with the latest Fusion blast - self detonation by the BCCI.

 

[msb314]

Dawn news article is fake or maybe they are still reporting old news

BCCI has agreed but one suprised is still awaiting .

I agree will only trust ESPNCricinfo from now on..

 

[Itachi]

So what?

A lot of things only happen in certain countries.

Can we use that logic to no hotel is ever safe again in India?

It is very silly to bring up a tragic incident and weaponise it in this way time and time again when rest of the world is happy to come and Sri Lanka have came multiple times.

India should be bold and tell the truth rather than present these kinds of excuses.

That's not weaponising. Everyone has the right to look after their well being. It may not coincide with interest of others but when life &death is at stake, I believe it's a fair judgement.

 

[Technics 1210]

This episode happened in 2009, since then numerous major teams have toured Pakistan without incident. That incident in 2009 cannot be used forever against Pakistan.

Are you kidding? Indians still go on about 1947, what chance does 2009 have!?

 

[Technics 1210]

they are desperate for Pakistan to play in India so they could tamper with the pitches again like they did in 2023

And still couldn't win the WC at home in 2023!

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys please refrain from political stuff irrelevant to topic, Thanks

 

[shah9425]

all recent events in the last 6 months

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timesofindia.indiatimes.com

At least eight people injured in blast at cafe in India’s Bengaluru

Investigators suspect the bomb was an improvised device. The reason for the blast is yet to be determined.

www.aljazeera.com

Blast near restaurant owned by rapper Badshah in Chandigarh

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Bro you are cooking BCCI and their delusional fans here

Great job

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

PCB asked for this arrangement till 2031. Didn't get it. Only got it till 2027.

PCB didn't get anything else.

The same media that is reporting the fusion arrangement is reporting that PCB asked for more money and a tri series and didn't get it.

Seems you want to pick and choose.

The ICC expects the BCCI to act more maturely by 2027 and recognize the potential losses. If the PCB doesn't yield to the BCCI's demands again, this so-called arrangement will likely be extended until 2031.

 

[Hikaru]

Hybrid, fusion or scrap the entire tournament, doesn't matter. Every Bhartiya's priority right now is the well being and safety of our players. No way are they touring Pakistan.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The UAE Gate Money is all PCB's. This was part of PCB's demands for agreeing to the Hybrid Model. PCB will earn more than $1.5 million from the gate money in the UAE assuming all of India's matches will be sold out.

Indian fans are unable to travel to Pakistan and contribute directly to the PCB, yet they will travel to the UAE to watch Indian matches, ultimately helping the PCB earn gate revenue.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The real winners of this battle are Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, as they will host the finals of tournaments played in India.

 

[Local.Dada]

Indian fans are unable to travel to Pakistan and contribute directly to the PCB, yet they will travel to the UAE to watch Indian matches, ultimately helping the PCB earn gate revenue.

Hmmm interesting. So you are suggesting Indians should boycott CT completely. I don’t know if I hate this idea completely. You are a true nationalist bhaijaan

 

[Itachi]

This episode happened in 2009, since then numerous major teams have toured Pakistan without incident. That incident in 2009 cannot be used forever against Pakistan.

India-Pakistan has different dynamics than any x country & pakistan.

You think it shouldn't be used against pakistan.... that's ok.

But same may not hold true for everyone since this same incident shows how a moment of fail in security can lead to such disaster which has already happened in pakistan.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

It’s a right time for ICC to say goodbye to Team India and pick Sri Lanka instead.

If they don’t play in one tournament so it won’t be a big deal.

 

[Local.Dada]

I think all nations should leave ICC and form a new cricket alliance.

ICC and BCCI can play with themselves.

ICC is not a nation. It is made up by group of nations. Now since you got the attention of the day, go play outside.

 

[Itachi]

read the bold

security threat is a security threat there's no such of thing as likely and less likely its still a risk

tennis players lives are of less value because they are tennis players and cricket players lives have more value because they are cricket players?

World doesn't run only in black and white.

Why ministers have more security than any tom, dick and harry when that same minister hasn't faced any life threat in his whole life time?

It's because the chair is likely to be targeted not because that minister has more human value.

 

[emranabbas]

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[Kianig89]

Those saying BCCI stuck to their position needs one behind their ears, earlier BCCI said GOI does not allows team India to travel to Pakistan.

PCB asked BCCI to give this in writing to which BCCI got hiccups and there was no formal letter/ order.

 

[Itachi]

India is ranked as the second most dangerous country in the world for women. Is it really safe for female cricket representatives to be there? Or for the ICC to hold the Women’s World Cup in India in 2025?

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PCB should raise their objection and ask the world cup to move away from India if it feels the same. PCB has every right to ask.

 

[Itachi]

Those saying BCCI stuck to their position needs one behind their ears, earlier BCCI said GOI does not allows team India to travel to Pakistan.

PCB asked BCCI to give this in writing to which BCCI got hiccups and there was no formal letter/ order.

Saala sab backwash from BCCI now they are left with a Trouser without elastic

That's not what PCB asked from BCCI in writing.

 

[Kianig89]

That's not what PCB asked from BCCI in writing.

It all started from here.....51 pages back

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What is the surprise?

Jay Shah is inviting his 'chachu chaiwala' over for dinner tonight.

 

[Itachi]

It all started from here.....51 pages back

PCB isn't asking about GOI permission/guidelines or any documentation regarding security threat.

PCB wants neutral place too same as BCCI which it wants in writing.

Two very different aspect here.

 

[Savak]

India-Pakistan has different dynamics than any x country & pakistan.

You think it shouldn't be used against pakistan.... that's ok.

But same may not hold true for everyone since this same incident shows how a moment of fail in security can lead to such disaster which has already happened in pakistan.

Countries like Zimbabwe, West Indies, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Australia, England, New Zealand have all toured Pakistan without any issues. India cannot use the 2009 Incident as an excuse given the high profile nature of the teams that have toured Pakistan in the last 10 years without issues. The successful tours by these teams have proven how tight security presidential level security by the Pakistani security forces is.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I've already stated that this is unfair.

Post in thread '[Report] BCCI turns down renewed proposal by PCB as deadlock over the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 continues [Post Updated #4091]' https://ppforum.pakpassion.net/thre...tinues-post-updated-4091.315758/post-12395422




BCCI has every right to reject these petty laughable demands from PCB.

The PCB is just returning the favor. What's wrong? Does the shoe pinch when it's on the other foot? The BCCI has been acting like the boss of the block for too long. It’s about time someone stood up and gave the bully a dose of its own medicine.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

PCB isn't asking about GOI permission/guidelines or any documentation regarding security threat.

PCB wants neutral place too same as BCCI which it wants in writing.

Two very different aspect here.

The PCB believes that even their team isn’t safe in India, so they are also demanding a hybrid model, just like India. After all, the rules should be the same for everyone.

 

[Itachi]

The PCB is just returning the favor. What's wrong? Does the shoe pinch when it's on the other foot? The BCCI has been acting like the boss of the block for too long. It’s about time someone stood up and gave the bully a dose of its own medicine.

There's nothing wrong in that (PCB asking the same). It has every right to ask.

 

[Itachi]

The PCB believes that even their team isn’t safe in India, so they are also demanding a hybrid model, just like India. After all, the rules should be the same for everyone.

It's up for ICC to decide. There's nothing BCCI can do here nor it should.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India has every right to assess the security situation from their point of view.

Same goes for Pakistan...

But I'll reiterate the crucial word here. Only in Pakistan, a bus containing cricket team was attacked.

That shows very specific target which hasn't been seen in other countries. If that didn't happen, then opposing argument could have been taken in a more generalise manner.

It’s 2024, and 2025 is knocking at the door. Maybe it’s time to step out of the past and trust the security teams of Australia, England, South Africa, and New Zealand, you know, the ones who have toured Pakistan without even a paper plane sneaking through. Sure, you might hate Pakistan, but that doesn’t mean you can treat international players like disposable extras or act like their security teams are amateurs.

Looks like the BCCI’s money and power are rubbing off on you. Be careful, or you might float away. Come back down to earth before gravity files a missing person report.

 

[Itachi]

It’s 2024, and 2025 is knocking at the door. Maybe it’s time to step out of the past and trust the security teams of Australia, England, South Africa, and New Zealand, you know, the ones who have toured Pakistan without even a paper plane sneaking through. Sure, you might hate Pakistan, but that doesn’t mean you can treat international players like disposable extras or act like their security teams are amateurs.

Looks like the BCCI’s money and power are rubbing off on you. Be careful, or you might float away. Come back down to earth before gravity files a missing person report.

That can become the case when any match of X team vs Pakistan in Pakistan will have the same profile as India vs Pakistan in Pakistan along with Ind-Pak history.

Threat to NZ or ENG team may not be same as threat to IND. So it will be futile to ascertain based upon reports from others.

 

[MSaad1237]

What a joke this sport has become.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys please refrain from any adventure

 

[Slim]

It’s 2024, and 2025 is knocking at the door. Maybe it’s time to step out of the past and trust the security teams of Australia, England, South Africa, and New Zealand, you know, the ones who have toured Pakistan without even a paper plane sneaking through. Sure, you might hate Pakistan, but that doesn’t mean you can treat international players like disposable extras or act like their security teams are amateurs.

Looks like the BCCI’s money and power are rubbing off on you. Be careful, or you might float away. Come back down to earth before gravity files a missing person report.

Preaching to the choir. Theres no need to convince folks who deep down know whats the reality but deliberately play the trope because in their head space they are govt reps

 

[Technics 1210]

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India wants us to believe their country is safe? No sporting event should ever be held in India unless it is the world championship of Sheep sheering.

 

[imranq]

surprised by the replies from indian posters here ... that's probably how BCCI thinks to and is a good indicator of why things never get done which benefit other board members even slightly.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

surprised by the replies from indian posters here ... that's probably how BCCI thinks to and is a good indicator of why things never get done which benefit other board members even slightly

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

 

[Aami]

Securuty threat is an excuse for India.

Its just politics, dont want to play in Pakistan, all down to politics.

Anyone, who says otherwise, its just blindly following the script, ignoring the truth.

 

[Technics 1210]

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

But it is not strange. We are fully aware of the Indian pschye. This thread just proves what we have been saying all along - India will never progress as a nation despite how much money they have (very little) and the most vocal of the Hindutva cult are not even sitting in India but on Pakistani forums and in foreigner homes. What more proof is needed?

 

[emranabbas]

surprised by the replies from indian posters here ... that's probably how BCCI thinks to and is a good indicator of why things never get done which benefit other board members even slightly.

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

Many Indians were even celebrating when people were killed during the Islamabad protest, and Pakistan's chances of hosting the Champions Trophy appeared dim.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

But it is not strange. We are fully aware of the Indian pschye. This thread just proves what we have been saying all along - India will never progress as a nation despite how much money they have (very little) and the most vocal of the Hindutva cult are not even sitting in India but on Pakistani forums and in foreigner homes. What more proof is needed?

psyche is well known but to openly hope for and cheer for fraudulent behaviour is the surprising thing.

 

[Barragan]

They want to play Pak in neutral venue for CT and Pak to travel to Ind as well for the WC?

Pretty delusional.

I hope the pcb stick to their stance here.

 

[Itachi]

I don't want to make a political post purely but I think there's a reason why BJP is still very popular among young Indians even

This has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

 

[IMMY69]

That's not weaponising. Everyone has the right to look after their well being. It may not coincide with interest of others but when life &death is at stake, I believe it's a fair judgement.

I'm not understanding your argument.
Perhaps you can explain?

I mean you have the "terrorism argument" to refuse playing in Pakistan but what about bi lateral games? Why refuse those over the last 12 years?

 

[sweep_shot]

They want to play Pak in neutral venue for CT and Pak to travel to Ind as well for the WC?

Pretty delusional.

I hope the pcb stick to their stance here.

Yeah. Very unreasonable demand from them.

PCB should refuse to send team in India until India decide to play in Pakistan.

 

[Technics 1210]

psyche is well known but to openly hope for and cheer for fraudulent behaviour is the surprising thing.

They have nothing else to cheer about especially after the latest round of humiliation. What are their life goals and ambitions? Zilch. Even a honey bee contributes to life.

They have to find solace one way or another and if it is through celebrating and endorsing fraud then so be it - at least we know who sleeps peacefully at night.

I just love the fact that India only exists because of Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It’s a right time for ICC to say goodbye to Team India and pick Sri Lanka instead.

If they don’t play in one tournament so it won’t be a big deal.

As long as same is applied to Pakistan for every tournament hosted in india.

 

[guard]

This episode happened in 2009, since then numerous major teams have toured Pakistan without incident. That incident in 2009 cannot be used forever against Pakistan.

but it will, the event was planned, orchestrated and funded with neighbours assistance. They would like nothing better than to see Pakistan die hence same ol drama rama everytime

 

[emranabbas]

Says the poster who supports and celebrates 26/11 like terrorist attacks on India.

Don't forget to mention you Indians started it first by celebrating islamabad attacks because you thought Pakistan wouldn't host champions trophy after that.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

These individuals have become so accustomed to being scammed daily in India that they believe it's acceptable to exploit others in the same way. This mindset is contributing to the rise of hatred, scams, and fraud in the country. To make matters worse, some people idolize and treat criminals like Lawrence Bishnoi as their heroes.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

Many actually don't want BCCI to engage with PCB at all.

Just withdraw from CT and let ICC handle how they want to handle the losses.

Or

Leave it for the host board to compensate for any losses. If they can't shift the tournament.

Should apply to any tournament hosted by any country and whenever a country withdraws.

This stupid back and forth is useless.

 

[Local.Dada]

Many Indians are openly supporting making a contract with Pakistan and then breaching it.

It's very strange to see Indian people openly advocate for this type of fraudulent behavior.

You keep asking for paper work but have you seen the contract? Now don’t ask me minutes or court documents but as admitted by your own media, Pak tried to sue India for MOU for bilaterals and ended up losing money. PCB can barely run their own home despite being the 2nd biggest market in terms of fan base.

BCCI has employed the cream of the cream lawyers, executives, administrators.

Call me biased which is ok but common sense tells me whose word I should beleive.

 

[mominsaigol]

Attacks were carried out by afghan terrorists and we very well know who is sleeping with Afghans and supporting them. Wouldn't be surprised the ipl money is used against pakistan for the attacks that are happening in Pakistan no wonder there are so many Afghans in ipl

I don't want to get into any political arguments as I'm not well versed in affairs, but In cricketing terms, I'm not a fan of Afghanistan rolling over 24/7 for India.

The reason Afghanistan frequently loses to india is because they don't show them any aggression whereas with other teams they always show up even if they are outgunned.

Hence they get an upset here and their.

Against India they roll over for fear of maintaining friendly relations with India as India literally allows them to use their home grounds.

It's shameless behaviour and their another by product of BCCI bullying.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Guys it would be nice if you could stick to the thread topic

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pakistan should recognize and the lead the way and renounce the use of non-state actors as policy tool.

Can't be that difficult, can it? If Pakistan does it, the entire burden will be on India easy peasy

When will the BCCI step up and lead? The PCB has already shown some backbone this time. Why hasn't India taken a firm stand for our soldiers and completely boycotted Pakistan? Why are sports relations between India and Pakistan not severed entirely? It's ironic to expect a weaker board like the PCB to dictate terms while the powerful BCCI continues to take a hypocritical stance.

It's fine if you're feeling extra patriotic after leaving India, but deep down, you know that Pakistan wasn’t at fault when they wanted to host their own tournament with India. If India then sought a hybrid model, Pakistan too had the right to demand the same. You can keep crying in the corner now.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Many actually don't want BCCI to engage with PCB at all.

Just withdraw from CT and let ICC handle how they want to handle the losses.

Or

Leave it for the host board to compensate for any losses. If they can't shift the tournament.

Should apply to any tournament hosted by any country and whenever a country withdraws.

This stupid back and forth is useless.

Yeah, and the BCCI essentially gave them the ladyfinger, showing that money comes first for them. Deep down, BCCI probably want Pakistan to play whatever 1-2 matches the ICC can arrange. Otherwise, the powerful BCCI could easily request (or even order) the ICC not to place India and Pakistan in the same group from the start.

 

[cricketjoshila]

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Number one is SA. Lets not hold any tournaments in SA.

List also has Saudi and Brazil. Remove them too.

 

[Barragan]

Yeah. Very unreasonable demand from them.

PCB should refuse to send team in India until India decide to play in Pakistan.

Beyond ridiculous!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You keep asking for paper work but have you seen the contract? Now don’t ask me minutes or court documents but as admitted by your own media, Pak tried to sue India for MOU for bilaterals and ended up losing money. PCB can barely run their own home despite being the 2nd biggest market in terms of fan base.

BCCI has employed the cream of the cream lawyers, executives, administrators.

Call me biased which is ok but common sense tells me whose word I should beleive.

Exactly. Let me add one more point: Pakistan had no home cricket for almost a decade, yet they still managed to stand up to the BCCI’s bullying this time. We all admire when the underdogs put the powerful on the back foot. Am I right Mr. International Dada?

 

[Local.Dada]

Exactly. Let me add one more point: Pakistan had no home cricket for almost a decade, yet they still managed to stand up to the BCCI’s bullying this time. We all admire when the underdogs put the powerful on the back foot. Am I right Mr. International Dada?

They stood up and achieved what? They won’t play in India next cup and agreed to hybrid? Ok pat on the back. For your sake as a fellow “international” Indian I will agree

Also if Pak didn’t have international cricket, whose fault is it? Don’t think ICC or BCCI had anything to do with it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't want to get into any political arguments as I'm not well versed in affairs, but In cricketing terms, I'm not a fan of Afghanistan rolling over 24/7 for India.

The reason Afghanistan frequently loses to india is because they don't show them any aggression whereas with other teams they always show up even if they are outgunned.

Hence they get an upset here and their.

Against India they roll over for fear of maintaining friendly relations with India as India literally allows them to use their home grounds.

It's shameless behaviour and their another by product of BCCI bullying.

You are accusing a team of match fixing and without any proof.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They stood up and achieved what? They won’t play in India next cup and agreed to hybrid? Ok pat on the back. For your sake as a fellow “international” Indian I will agree

Also if Pak didn’t have international cricket, whose fault is it? Don’t think ICC or BCCI had anything to do with it.

This perennial rona of not having a home.

Poor security was Pakistan's fault.

Pakistan still earned their broadcast rights money and ICC share. So bulk of the revenue was intact.

BCCI hosted the IPL in UAE to full houses. If Pakistan team cannot draw crowds whose fault is it?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Number one is SA. Lets not hold any tournaments in SA.

List also has Saudi and Brazil. Remove them too.

Bengali dada, but India has no issue playing against South Africa, whether it's in India or South Africa.

 

[RehanG]

idk what the gain will be from the tournament. Just 'postponed' and later scrap for good.

All next tournaments involving Pak / Ind , put them in separate groups.

 

[emranabbas]

I don't want to get into any political arguments as I'm not well versed in affairs, but In cricketing terms, I'm not a fan of Afghanistan rolling over 24/7 for India.

The reason Afghanistan frequently loses to india is because they don't show them any aggression whereas with other teams they always show up even if they are outgunned.

Hence they get an upset here and their.

Against India they roll over for fear of maintaining friendly relations with India as India literally allows them to use their home grounds.

It's shameless behaviour and their another by product of BCCI bullying.

It's a bhai bhai relationship against pakistan

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

They stood up and achieved what? They won’t play in India next cup and agreed to hybrid? Ok pat on the back. For your sake as a fellow “international” Indian I will agree

Also if Pak didn’t have international cricket, whose fault is it? Don’t think ICC or BCCI had anything to do with it.

They deserve a pat on the back for surviving without international cricket for 10 years, staying relevant and resilient despite having a neighbor whose cricket board sought to end their cricket, and fans who wished harm on their cricket. This effort is truly commendable. On top of that, they stood their ground for so many days that the ICC had to keep arranging meeting after meeting. Not sure about you, but most people love seeing the underdogs take down a bully.

Had the BCCI been in the PCB's place, someone from Bollywood would have already turned this story into a movie.

 

[emranabbas]

Number one is SA. Lets not hold any tournaments in SA.

List also has Saudi and Brazil. Remove them too.

Thank you very much

for the same reason you can't remove pakistan from hosting or say you don't want to visit Pakistan for security reasons.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

This perennial rona of not having a home.

Poor security was Pakistan's fault.

Pakistan still earned their broadcast rights money and ICC share. So bulk of the revenue was intact.

BCCI hosted the IPL in UAE to full houses. If Pakistan team cannot draw crowds whose fault is it?

Can you read the bolded part and not laugh? Why did the BCCI host the IPL in the UAE and South Africa? I remember some Indian fans used to mock Pakistan for hosting their home series abroad, but when asked about India organizing its domestic "pyjama league" in foreign countries, they were suddenly tight-lipped. Was the security so incompetent that it couldn’t manage one event and one circus side by side? I mean, who hosts a domestic pyjama league tournament in another country and then boasts about it?

 

[emranabbas]

Many actually don't want BCCI to engage with PCB at all.

Just withdraw from CT and let ICC handle how they want to handle the losses.

Or

Leave it for the host board to compensate for any losses. If they can't shift the tournament.

Should apply to any tournament hosted by any country and whenever a country withdraws.

This stupid back and forth is useless.

Maybe you should preach to your own people

The Indian broadcasters and sponsors are the ones who are begging for a India vs Pakistan match.

Is a India vs Pakistan match such a big money generator that indian broadcasters are claiming a loss of 90% if it doesn't go through?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You are accusing a team of match fixing and without any proof.

It's ok, Bengali Dada. Even our "godi media" accuses Pakistan every time there is a blast, and that too without any proof. I am sure you don’t take even two seconds to believe it.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thank you very much

for the same reason you can't remove pakistan from hosting or say you don't want to visit Pakistan for security reasons.

No cricket team was attacked with bombs and bullets in these countries.

UN sanctioned terrorists don't roam freely in these countries.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Maybe you should preach to your own people

The Indian broadcasters and sponsors are the ones who are begging for a India vs Pakistan match.

Is a India vs Pakistan match such a big money generator that indian broadcasters are claiming a loss of 90% if it doesn't go through?

When did Broadcasters say that there would be 90 per cent loss?

 

[ChennaiFan]

World doesn't run only in black and white.

Why ministers have more security than any tom, dick and harry when that same minister hasn't faced any life threat in his whole life time?

It's because the chair is likely to be targeted not because that minister has more human value.

In the security space, probability of an event happening is a critical factor in decision making. But you don't need to explain all those things. They are not looing for any logical debate; they are here to express their frustrations. We need to understand it is their chance to host in a long time and the boorish behavior we notice is a coping mechanism to hide their disappointments.