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Of course in Sri LankaAnyone ask naqvi about where will be World T20 2026 final played regardless of Pakistan qualified or not .
I don't think he will tell the real truth to Pakistani awam
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Of course in Sri LankaAnyone ask naqvi about where will be World T20 2026 final played regardless of Pakistan qualified or not .
I don't think he will tell the real truth to Pakistani awam
Very true.Regardless of how this turns out, my biggest takeaway is that ICC is a complete joke and laughing stock. It's essentially an event management organization and it can't even do that half decently. Any person with a functioning brain in ICC should have seen that India was not going to visit Pakistan and this nonsense should have already been worked out long ago.
Tournament is like 2.5 months away and there's no schedule. Scheduling for ODI WC was also done last minute. T20 WC was a debacle with last minute NY ground & pitches construction and the drop-in pitches in NY were horrific and super costly. Other than ICC caving into whatever big 3 demands are, is there anything they even do at this point? Bunch of boards throughout the world are barely hanging on, there is nothing being done to grow the game over time. You even have a rep running another board (Jay Shah & BCCI) and then next day running ICC - what utter nonsense is this, how is there not a transition period to go from running one board to running the ICC and what do you do to ensure conflict of interest doesn't arise?
Whatever the outcome, ICC should be dissolved because it is completely useless and a farce.
This is one of the most comical reason I have heard on this topic. Australia has visited Pakistan after 1998, England & New Zealand has visited two times, SA, WI, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh all have visited. But no no India cannot visit Pakistan and they want Pakistan to visit India in every ICC tournament and play super Sunday match at Ahmedabad because they want to earn dollars.Two different countries, two different security situations. I am not obliged to visit Syria just because some Syrian visited India. Doesn't work like that.
Post of the century and a good response to the HindUstan supportersThis is one of the most comical reason I have heard on this topic. Australia has visited Pakistan after 1998, England & New Zealand has visited two times, SA, WI, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh all have visited. But no no India cannot visit Pakistan and they want Pakistan to visit India in every ICC tournament and play super Sunday match at Ahmedabad because they want to earn dollars.
well BCCI has not exactly come out with a specific details of security threat and have not shared any concerns in Board meeting when security plan was approvedTwo different countries, two different security situations. I am not obliged to visit Syria just because some Syrian visited India. Doesn't work like that.
I cannot wait to dance on the grave of ICC.Regardless of how this turns out, my biggest takeaway is that ICC is a complete joke and laughing stock. It's essentially an event management organization and it can't even do that half decently. Any person with a functioning brain in ICC should have seen that India was not going to visit Pakistan and this nonsense should have already been worked out long ago.
Tournament is like 2.5 months away and there's no schedule. Scheduling for ODI WC was also done last minute. T20 WC was a debacle with last minute NY ground & pitches construction and the drop-in pitches in NY were horrific and super costly. Other than ICC caving into whatever big 3 demands are, is there anything they even do at this point? Bunch of boards throughout the world are barely hanging on, there is nothing being done to grow the game over time. You even have a rep running another board (Jay Shah & BCCI) and then next day running ICC - what utter nonsense is this, how is there not a transition period to go from running one board to running the ICC and what do you do to ensure conflict of interest doesn't arise?
Whatever the outcome, ICC should be dissolved because it is completely useless and a farce.
That’s not a win. That’s a bullying attitude. These types of views, beliefs and statements reinforce the worldview that India is not fit to lead this region sensibly and it is stuck in thinking small.Our win is not hybrid system..our win is not playing in Pakistan..and make PCB and ICC to bend to our demand..
That's why i said, ask the real truth from Naqvi.Of course in Sri Lanka
What you really want is to do is dance on the grave of BCCI (or any thing Indian).I cannot wait to dance on the grave of ICC.
This is one of the most comical reason I have heard on this topic. Australia has visited Pakistan after 1998, England & New Zealand has visited two times, SA, WI, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh all have visited. But no no India cannot visit Pakistan and they want Pakistan to visit India in every ICC tournament and play super Sunday match at Ahmedabad because they want to earn dollars.
Have to? Says who?BCCI wanted 1 way hybrid but instead they have to agree to a 2-way hybrid model, judge yourself who stands tall.
Don't worry.. just wait and watchHave to? Says who?
why would I worry? I materially gain or lose anything from what happens.Don't worry.. just wait and watch
Asking for a simple reply from you on this topic.why would I worry? I materially gain or lose anything from what happens.
for me, these discussions are lightweight exchange of ideas. Gives a window in to why situations are the way they are in difference countries/societies
has it happened yet? how about we not count the chickens before they hatch?Asking for a simple reply from you on this topic.
BCCI wanted PCB to play according to Hybrid model but wanted PCB to come to India to play all games YES???
BUT PCB made them to agree upon a 2-way hybrid model. Who gained more?
well, let's wait for the final decision then.has it happened yet? how about we not count the chickens before they hatch?
If Pak gets it till 2031, that will be a big big win.
If it is till 2027 with finals out of India, big win.
If I were betting man, no way on hell BCCI would agree to to held hostage by PCB.
has it happened yet? how about we not count the chickens before they hatch?
If Pak gets it till 2031, that will be a big big win.
If it is till 2027 with finals out of India, big win.
If any the above is happening, why would they cancel the meeting topday? why is Naqvi very quiet?
If I were betting man, no way on hell BCCI would agree to to held hostage by PCB.
will you bet based on this messaging?well, let's wait for the final decision then.
The model is already accepted verbally just need written formality and Naqvi is waiting for final documents signed and approved by both BCCI and ICC hence he is keeping his lips tight.will you bet based on this messaging?
>>>"We had a meeting (with the ICC) today, it's been postponed. Once the details have been finalised, we'll update you. We will not disappoint the nation," Mohsin Naqvi said in a video posted by PCB on X (formerly known as Twitter).
"Talks are still ongoing, but I do not want to say anything that is premature. We are aiming to achieve the best for Pakistan and international cricket. If the ICC progresses, cricket will progress. If there is a dent in the ICC, it will be felt across the world," he added.<<<
Thanks for the re-confirmation
You know this how?The model is already accepted verbally just need written formality and Naqvi is waiting for final documents signed and approved by both BCCI and ICC hence he is keeping his lips tight.
well BCCI has not exactly come out with a specific details of security threat and have not shared any concerns in Board meeting when security plan was approved
You just do not pass a sweeping and General statement that Pakistan is not safe for Cricket teams and then you get to go home thinking that is enough for others to accept your narrative
For Pakistanis , it’s a made up excuse and Indians are not bold enough to admit it. For All the power BCCI got , they cant even come forward and admit the fact that decision to not visit Pak is not a security concern but a political concern . And many of posters here have admitted that its a payback for 93 Coca Cola Tournament snub or 26/11 revenge but still shamelessly and hypocritically continue with security concern narrative
Which part of PCB's demand for having everything in writing did you not understand? PCB is well aware that BCCI's verbal commitments offer no guarantee, which is why they are insisting on a written assurance from the ICC.I can only laugh at the naivety of the people who thinks it will be a 2 way hybrid model. Some folks simply don't learn.
In this CT, India won't set foot in Pakistan as per their original demand. Drag Pakistan to Dubai to face India and also one semi final and final will be in Dubai. I can also assure you the final will be in Dubai irrespective of India qualifies or not. You can't change venue at the last minute looking at the result of a team. There is proper protocol of ticket sales, pitch preperation etc. So this final will be in Lahore if India don'y qualify is another goli.
Next and only ICC event in India till 2027 is WT20 2026 which is already has a co-host in SL. So all Pak matches will be played in SL which would have been the case anyway. They will still be forced to come to India for the India game. If whoever the PCB chairman then remains firm, then ICC will simply put Ind and Pak in separate groups like 2011 WC. However, I can guarantee you Indian team will not fly to SL to play any of its matches. Did we forget 2023 WC when Indian team flew pillar to post in every nook and corner of the country to play their league games? It is bcoz Indian team sells tickets and makes revenue. So there is no question of sending the team to SL to play the big ticket Ind v Pak game. It will not happen in million years.
Now coming to knock outs, one semi final will still be in SL as per original schedule. Unless that semi final is between Ind v Pak and if Pak qualifies, they get to play in SL. However, final will be in India irrespective of which ever team qualifies. If anyone thinks ICC headed by Amit Shahs son will let go hosting a final in 100k capacity Ahmedabad stadium infront of whose who and will host in Colombo for sake of PCB, they are the biggest fools. LOL.
Even Moshin Naqvi knows all these and maintaining silence on this topic. Pakistan lost this saga when they accepted the hybrid model. Rest all is topi drama for posturing and keep janata happy.
You realised this after doing multiple bhangra on 50+ pages. What happened to "india will do this" and "India will do that." Now you want to wait for final decisionhas it happened yet? how about we not count the chickens before they hatch?
If Pak gets it till 2031, that will be a big big win.
If it is till 2027 with finals out of India, big win.
If any the above is happening, why would they cancel the meeting topday? why is Naqvi very quiet?
If I were betting man, no way on hell BCCI would agree to to held hostage by PCB.
BCCI will never give anything in writing. The only thing ICC will do now is give assurances to PCB and will tell them trust me bro when time comes we will do hybrid.Which part of PCB's demand for having everything in writing did you not understand? PCB is well aware that BCCI's verbal commitments offer no guarantee, which is why they are insisting on a written assurance from the ICC.
Naqvi wants it in writing: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are considered the weekend in Dubai, and no official paperwork is processed during these days.Deal done 2 days ago than why are they are not announcing the schedule yet?
Bus Naqvi seye jarur puchna ki 2026 World T20 final pe kya bat hui thi ?
Naqvi wants it in writing: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are considered the weekend in Dubai, and no official paperwork is processed during these days.
I don't believe they are asking for writing from BCCI but ICC. By the way the writing isn't saying India is unsafe. Pakistan have just said they are unwilling to travel. Everyone knows that the security stuff is just drama.If Naqvi remains adamant, then CT will either be cancelled or postponed. If this happens both PCB and ICC will lose money. There will be no loss for BCCI.
One thing for sure, BCCI will not give anything in writing. Bcoz giving in writing for an event that will happen 2 years later is absurd and an admission that security situation of India will not be good then. No one can preempt the future and so the demand of give it in writing is absurd and childish. SL is a co host and will remain a co host. The venue for final will be decided near the time of tournament accessing the security situation. That is max that ICC can offer unfortunately.
At a time when India is hosting GT20 summit and trying to become a major player in geo politics, BCCI will not write in paper that India is unsafe for a cricket tournament scheduled 2 years later. BCCI cant do it unilaterally anyway and have to first take permission from their baap sitting in New Delhi govt.
Indians (apart from those on this forum) are viewing this as a significant defeat.I have been following this news very closely and have reputable sources of information on the natter. The deal as it is has been current presented sent shockwaves through India.
The attitude is that we are meant to be bringing Pakistan down but have brought down ourselves in the process. That's why many BJP supporters and even politicians have been openly crying and spitting venom. Jay Shah is getting chittar behind the scenes and GOI doesn't understand how they are walking away with equal treatment to Pakistan so are running BJP negotiators over the coals. Honestly I am not trolling or making this up - they are absolutely livid with this proposal.
They will likely reject this deal also unless something happens today. These meeting delays aren't because of talks with Pakistan, it's for Indians to regroup and try to win back their pride. They feel slapped in the face.
What's your sourceThey agreed on 2 way hybrid models except for finals and they will confirm in writing shortly.
Why? What is the reason behind it?I don't believe they are asking for writing from BCCI but ICC. By the way the writing isn't saying India is unsafe. Pakistan have just said they are unwilling to travel. Everyone knows that the security stuff is just drama.
BJP government is rattled by this not for the reasons you are saying but because they spend a lot of time bringing down Pakistan so can't risk presenting a deal to Indian public that shows any level of parity. Nothing to do with security just ego.
Government has warranted it and they are not obliged to make the information public.Why? What is the reason behind it?
BCCI hasn't been given security clearance by GoI. The government isn't bound by what happens at the ICC board meeting and security plans there. They have their own intelligence reports and threat assessment. So ICC board meeting and discussion on security plans there are of no consequence.
GoI will not share intelligence with Pakistani government.
LOL
the threat is supposedly in Pakistan. why would nt GOI share details so threat can be minimized?
Its comical reasoning by you because Governments all over the world do share threat intel with each other and it does not compromise intelligence
Indian Posters are trying to Patronize everyone here thinking they have got some superior logic
LMAOIntelligence isn't shared with hostile states.
The irony....Intelligence isn't shared with hostile states.
LMAO
Then say it out loud that we do not play Pak because it is a hostile state , why hide behind security clearance?
Indian Team has no security concern In Pakistan according to Pakistani Government and PCB and they are willing to provide highest level of security that state can provide to guestsHuh?
Indian team has security concerns in Pakistan.
Intelligence on that will not be shared with pakistan because Pakistan is a hostile state.
Nope. It's the BCCI and fans like you who have insecurity concerns.Huh?
Indian team has security concerns in Pakistan
Now govt has jumped into itPakistan PM Jumps Into ICC Champions Trophy Row With BCCI, Assures PCB Of...
According to the report, PCB chief Mohsin Naqvi had apparently met the PM on short notice to inform him about Pakistan's next step, as the Indian cricket board was not willing to accept the "fusion formula" proposed by the PCB to the ICC.
Pakistan Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif has assured PCB chairman Mohsin Naqvi of "complete support" on the issue of the hosting of the Champions Trophy next year and said the country should keep its self-respect while dealing with the matter, according to sources. Sharif, who is also the patron-in-chief of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), also told Naqvi that it was not just about money and that the sentiments of the public should also be taken into consideration.
India has refused to play its Champions Trophy matches in Pakistan and instead demanded the tournament be played in a 'hybrid model', which would allow it to play its matches at a neutral venue.
According to a top International Cricket Council (ICC) source, the global governing body for the sport has reached a consensus to conduct the Champions Trophy in a hybrid model, allowing India to play its share of matches in Dubai while agreeing "in principle" to a similar arrangement in multi-lateral events till 2027.
Naqvi, on Sunday, briefed Sharif on the behind-the-scenes developments but the PCB didn't reveal details of the meeting.
"The Prime Minister assured his complete support to the PCB on the issue and appreciated the stance taken by the (PCB) chairman on India refusing to play in Pakistan in the mega-event," the source said.
He said that Naqvi was told by Sharif that everything was not about money and Pakistan should deal with the matter keeping its self-respect and pride.
"The stance adopted by the PCB reflects the feelings of all Pakistanis when it comes to the Champions Trophy after the refusal of India to play in Pakistan," Geo TV quoted the premier as telling Naqvi during the meeting.
Naqvi has said that any decision on the Champions Trophy would be taken after seeking advice from the government.
Another source close to the government said that Naqvi had apparently met the PM on a short notice to inform him about Pakistan's next step, as the Indian cricket board was not willing to accept the "fusion formula" proposed by the PCB to the ICC.
"Basically, Naqvi wanted to keep the PM updated and get his approval if the PCB decides to break the deadlock with any tough decision on the tournament," the source said.
The ICC headquarters in Dubai has been the hub of discussion around the "fusion formula" proposed by the PCB on the hosting of ICC events for the next few years.
PCB wants the BCCI to accept a formula under which if India does not play any ICC event in Pakistan, the neighbouring team will also not visit India for any event.
Pakistan PM Jumps Into ICC Champions Trophy Row With BCCI, Assures PCB Of... | Cricket News
According to the report, PCB chief Mohsin Naqvi had apparently met the PM on short notice to inform him about Pakistan's next step, as the Indian cricket board was not willing to accept the "fusion formula" proposed by the PCB to the ICC.sports.ndtv.com
Now govt has jumped into it
It will be not easy for this board
Not sure about that. For a few extra dollars, they would do anything
You are right, GOI and BCCI have been chasing after PCB and GOPak.Now govt has jumped into it
It will be not easy for this board
do you have the link?Well as per Indian sources weren't the extra few dollars (30% in extra revenue) already offered to the PCB weeks ago to accept the hybrid model?
So why still the hold up?
its on the air. you need special receivers and secret code along with a secret handshake to get the informationWhat's your source
Indian Team has no security concern In Pakistan according to Pakistani Government and PCB and they are willing to provide highest level of security that state can provide to guests
If it cant be shared with Hostile state , what about ICC? so they can make sure its validity. so far its your words against Mine
do you have the link?
There is so much noise, its hard to keep track.
BCCI criticized -> make it about Pakistan instead.Yes ,BCCI was behind the security situation of pakistan or Sri Lanka cricket teams attacked by terrorists in pakistan .
Yes ,BCCI is behind PCT becomes borderline minnow and losing against part timer player's
Yes, BCCI is behind stoping the growth rate of cricket becouse every other boards are generation more revenues for ICC which ICC disturbing to associate nations.
Want more reasons ,why is BCCI holding back cricket or these few examples are enough .
BCCI criticized -> make it about Pakistan instead.
Indian BCCI bootlickers in a nutshell.
do you have the link?
There is so much noise, its hard to keep track.
Truth is bitter and your frustrations is showing it.BCCI criticized -> make it about Pakistan instead.
Indian BCCI bootlickers in a nutshell.
Did they get a written assurance yet, I do think its a fair deal but can’t digest that BCCI accepted this, I think both parties need to wait and watch before doing bhangra.Which part of PCB's demand for having everything in writing did you not understand? PCB is well aware that BCCI's verbal commitments offer no guarantee, which is why they are insisting on a written assurance from the ICC.
there is no intel to share in first place. Farcical excusesYup, Share intel with the hostile nation which has been sponsoring non state actors against you for decades
not sure why are convinced that it is fair deal. PCB's history and their commitment to visiting teams in the past suggest otherwise. the fair deal is for CT to ahead w/o India in Pak and ICC tournaments in India to go ahead without Pak. Pak was offered the opportunity to do this in WC2023Did they get a written assurance yet, I do think its a fair deal but can’t digest that BCCI accepted this, I think both parties need to wait and watch before doing bhangra.
Has the BCCI sent a security team to assess the arrangements for the upcoming Champions Trophy in Pakistan, or are they still relying on the outdated security plans shared by Sri Lanka in 2009? Additionally, have there been any threats from Pakistani groups indicating a desire to harm Indian players? Kindly share all the details so some of us can look into it.Yup, Share intel with the hostile nation which has been sponsoring non state actors against you for decades
The Pakistani government had made the same promise to SL team. It didn't work out.
Indian government will not take that risk. Any thing happens to the team, and it will be a disaster, Modi government will be under immense pressure to retaliate and if they don't BJP and Modi can kiss their political future goodbye.
I have said it before and i say it again, PCB should try to convince ICC to hold the tournament without India.
I as an Indian fan have no issues with that.
Weren't they promised presidential level security? this was in the aftermath of the Marriott bombing.Predicted Response. That attack was 15 years ago. thats a lot of time passed.
SL Team was not given highest level of security during 2009 tour. It was simple protocol with couple of police vans in Entourage with Team bus that was not even bullet proof. There was no promise because there was no prior incident.
Again Indians are dwelling on decades old incident and they were nt even victims. They just have this incident to malign Pakistan. By logic of Indians , Germans should never be able to host any sports activity after Munich Attacks in 1972.
Predicted Response. That attack was 15 years ago. thats a lot of time passed.
SL Team was not given highest level of security during 2009 tour. It was simple protocol with couple of police vans in Entourage with Team bus that was not even bullet proof. There was no promise because there was no prior incident.
Again Indians are dwelling on decades old incident and they were nt even victims. They just have this incident to malign Pakistan. By logic of Indians , Germans should never be able to host any sports activity after Munich Attacks in 1972.
Weren't they promised presidential level security? this was in the aftermath of the Marriott bombing.
Did PCB and Pak govt lie when they promised presidential security to SL team?
Neither in France since Paris attacks in 2015 happened during football GameGoing by logic of these Indian posters, no game should take place in New Zealand since Christchurch terrorist attack happened a few years ago.
They are broken records.
Neither in France since Paris attacks in 2015 happened during football Game
Obfuscation on your part. This was in the aftermath of 2008 Marriot bombing.Not sure couple of police vans escorting team bus that was not bullet proof can be classified as top tier security .
Whether they were promised or Not , It was clear lapse and lack of foresight on Part of security officials who were in charge
Incident happened decades ago. Pakistan has paid the price for it and moved on. Pretty Sure PCB , GOP are not taking anymore chances
Like i said world has moved on so did victims of the incident.Obfuscation on your part. This was in the aftermath of 2008 Marriot bombing.
For Pakistan, Attack Exposes Security Flaws (Published 2009)
A coordinated, commando-style ambush on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Pakistan on Tuesday revealed embarrassing security gaps in an increasingly unstable country.www.nytimes.com
>>>To persuade the Sri Lankans to visit, the Pakistanis offered presidential-style security, Pakistani television reported.
But to show that the Sri Lankan cricket team did not receive the security it had asked for, the Dawn television channel on Tuesday night showed the elaborate motorcades with bulletproof vehicles traveling at high speed with flashing lights used by senior Pakistani officials.
In contrast, the television report showed bullet holes in the windows of the cricketers’ bus.<<<