[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

[DeadlyVenom]

I am not here to show my love for Pakistan. I am here to express my views.
On the hatred topic, this very thread is example of how much love India gets from the Pakistanis. What you sow is what you get.

Explain your views then. Why are you certain about the intentions of terrorists towards Indian team in the champions trophy?

Also please answer my question regarding the "celebrations" (your choice of words not mine btw) in Mumbai.

 

[Technics 1210]

We are witnessing the crucifixion of the cult!

2025 is looking like an amazing year already!

 

[ChennaiFan]

Explain your views then. Why are you certain about the intentions of terrorists towards Indian team in the champions trophy?

Also please answer my question regarding the "celebrations" (your choice of words not mine btw) in Mumbai.

You asked "Which terrorists are these?"

The people who shot the foreign cricketers and planted/exploded bombs near cricket venues were the terrorists, unless you consider those acts as peaceful events and celebrations. Now, you decide if those people were terrorists or not.

Coming back to the Mumbai incident, we never acted as if nothing happened in Mumbai. Those were heinous terror attacks by a few pakistani terrorists.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

We are witnessing the crucifixion of the cult!

2025 is looking like an amazing year already!

ICC, and all member nations have given a clear signal that Pakistan is ok for touring.

But @ChennaiFan somehow got the scoop and knows there are terrorists in Pakistan and knows their intentions.

He has also conducted forensic accounting and determined the tournament is a financial failure because of Pakistan - before we know the schedule or before a ball is bowled.



I had another word in mind that sounds like cult after reading his theories.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

ICC, and all member nations have given a clear signal that Pakistan is ok for touring.

But @ChennaiFan somehow got the scoop and knows there are terrorists in Pakistan and knows their intentions.

He has also conducted forensic accounting and determined the tournament is a financial failure because of Pakistan - before we know the schedule or before a ball is bowled.



I had another word in mind that sounds like cult after reading his theories.

also this whole mess is created By PCB. BcCi is innocent

 

[Devadwal]

So start sports doesn't even name Pakistan as host nation in champion trophy promo.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You asked "Which terrorists are these?"

The people who shot the foreign cricketers and planted/exploded bombs near cricket venues were the terrorists, unless you consider those acts as peaceful events and celebrations. Now, you decide if those people were terrorists or not.

Coming back to the Mumbai incident, we never acted as if nothing happened in Mumbai. Those were heinous terror attacks by a few pakistani terrorists.

You are sounding even more silly now.

The Sri Lanka attack happened in 2009.

Since then multiple tours have happened in Pakistan, these have all been security cleared by foreign governments. We have also had multiple PSLs alongside other sporting matches tournamrnts

What you are saying is those terrorists are lying in hiding undetected for many years but are waiting to pop out on the Indian team in 2025?

And your source for this info is what?

 

[Technics 1210]

I said before, India/BCCI now know which side their bread is buttered on!

 

[Technics 1210]

You are sounding even more silly now.

The Sri Lanka attack happened in 2009.

Since then multiple tours have happened in Pakistan, these have all been security cleared by foreign governments. We have also had multiple PSLs alongside other sporting matches tournamrnts

What you are saying is those terrorists are lying in hiding undetected for many years but are waiting to pop out on the Indian team in 2025?

And your source for this info is what?

They come on here pretending they care only to end up exposing themselves.

I still don't understand if they hate Pakistan so much then why find solace on a Pakistan forum? The answer is simple, such keyboard cultists are not sincere - not to their faith, not to their cult, not to their people, not to their loved ones, not to their country, not even to themselves. Mere statistics.

 

[uppercut]

You are sounding even more silly now.

The Sri Lanka attack happened in 2009.

Since then multiple tours have happened in Pakistan, these have all been security cleared by foreign governments. We have also had multiple PSLs alongside other sporting matches tournamrnts

What you are saying is those terrorists are lying in hiding undetected for many years but are waiting to pop out on the Indian team in 2025?

And your source for this info is what?

you right ... common knowledge says that Dawood, Hafiz and Masood are actually big fans of Indian cricket stars such as Kohli and Rohit ... its all a big yahooid konspiracy to sully the good name of Pakistan.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So start sports doesn't even name Pakistan as host nation in champion trophy promo.

They also forget that Pakistan massacred India in the last CT final so it's no surprise they forgot who is hosting.

Indians sometimes suffer from amnesia when it comes to these things. Even Sachin forgot he was a cricketer and started tweeting about hockey

 

[DeadlyVenom]

you right ... common knowledge says that Dawood, Hafiz and Masood are actually big fans of Indian cricket stars such as Kohli and Rohit ... its all a big yahooid konspiracy to sully the good name of Pakistan.

I don't use anti semitic terms like you have used.

I don't think there is any Jewish conspiracy.

But I am seeing a lot of hallucinating hindutvas.

 

[Devadwal]

They also forget that Pakistan massacred India in the last CT final so it's no surprise they forgot who is hosting.

Indians sometimes suffer from amnesia when it comes to these things. Even Sachin forgot he was a cricketer and started tweeting about hockey

But don't worry they will not forget how india destroy Pakistan in all ICC Event .

Its not even close.

shocking snub for the official hosts is another humiliation for pakistan and its show where they stands.

Btw when will be scheduled coming out?? Or .....

 

[ChennaiFan]

You are sounding even more silly now.

The Sri Lanka attack happened in 2009.

Since then multiple tours have happened in Pakistan, these have all been security cleared by foreign governments. We have also had multiple PSLs alongside other sporting matches tournamrnts

What you are saying is those terrorists are lying in hiding undetected for many years but are waiting to pop out on the Indian team in 2025?

And your source for this info is what?

I replied to a sensible post by @zn426

He mentioned "Pakistan would have the most to lose if the Indian team were attacked in Pakistan."

While agreeing with him, I also reminded him that any terrorists potentially planning for an attack would not consider if their acts would be good for Pakistan or not. I never mentioned any imminent threat. Keep in mind, I even wanted ICT to go and play the CT in Pakistan. I guess you had some comprehension deficiency with my post that resulted in unwanted reaction.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

But don't worry they will not forget how india destroy Pakistan in all ICC Event .

Its not even close.

shocking snub for the official hosts is another humiliation for pakistan and its show where they stands.

Btw when will be scheduled coming out?? Or .....

I am not too shocked by pettiness of Indians anymore. Their open hostility isn't surprising.

I wouldn't be too angry if tournament gets adjusted. It has been fun seeing the belly dancing from Indians.

 

[Devadwal]

I am not too shocked by pettiness of Indians anymore. Their open hostility isn't surprising.

I wouldn't be too angry if tournament gets adjusted. It has been fun seeing the belly dancing from Indians.

Deep inside Pakistan fans are thinking when they have seen the promo .

But tbey can't do anything expect crying .

 

[uppercut]

I don't use anti semitic terms like you have used.

I don't think there is any Jewish conspiracy.

But I am seeing a lot of hallucinating hindutvas.

Yup that big UN wanted list is just the result of Hallucinations of Evil Hindutva ... what else ? Pakistan and hence PCB is run by Santa Clauss himself and they only come bearing gifts !

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yup that big UN wanted list is just the result of Hallucinations of Evil Hindutva ... what else ? Pakistan and hence PCB is run by Santa Clauss himself and they only come bearing gifts !

So the UN thinks Dawood Ebrahim is going to attack Kohli?

Can you share a link?

 

[uppercut]

So the UN thinks Dawood Ebrahim is going to attack Kohli?

Can you share a link?

You are right they usually announce well in advance what they intend to do dates and venues ... my bad. Just like what happened to the SL team or the 1000s that have since died and continue to die. Every single attack was published in papers in advance.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

You are right they usually announce well in advance what they intend to do dates and venues ... my bad. Just like what happened to the SL team or the 1000s that have since died and continue to die. Every single attack was published in papers in advance.

So it is Hindutva hallucination then.

Got it.

 

[IMMY69]

You are sounding even more silly now.

The Sri Lanka attack happened in 2009.

Since then multiple tours have happened in Pakistan, these have all been security cleared by foreign governments. We have also had multiple PSLs alongside other sporting matches tournamrnts

What you are saying is those terrorists are lying in hiding undetected for many years but are waiting to pop out on the Indian team in 2025?

And your source for this info is what?

I really don't want to entertain these Indian posters as they keep changing the narrative to make themselves feel better... we all know it has nothing to do with the security situation and it was just a couple of weeks back when they were using the "we will not play cricket with our enemies" argument...

These arguments regarding 2009 make no sense especially when you apply some context to it.

In 2009 Pakistan was fighting a war on behalf of the USA, the country was a target for terrorist attacks.... we're on the cusp of 2025, the US have left Afghanistan and the country has learnt from its mistakes with respect to security measures.. the fact that the PSL has been going on for 8 years with international players and coaches present, Sri Lanka (the team targeted) has returned for tours, likewise the Kiwis and every single test playing nation barring India without a single hiccup is testament to this.

 

[uppercut]

So it is Hindutva hallucination then.

Got it.

and don't forget that the attacks are published in prominent news papers in advance ... ( totally my bad that I overlooked that small detail ) . Also true is that Santa Clauss ( Pakistan ) comes bearing very expensive gifts ... all for the greater good of Humanity

 

[Technics 1210]

I really don't want to entertain these Indian posters as they keep changing the narrative to make themselves feel better... we all know it has nothing to do with the security situation and it was just a couple of weeks back when they were using the "we will not play cricket with our enemies" argument...

These arguments regarding 2009 make no sense especially when you apply some context to it.

In 2009 Pakistan was fighting a war on behalf of the USA, the country was a target for terrorist attacks.... we're on the cusp of 2025, the US have left Afghanistan and the country has learnt from its mistakes with respect to security measures.. the fact that the PSL has been going on for 8 years with international players and coaches present, Sri Lanka (the team targeted) has returned for tours, likewise the Kiwis and every single test playing nation barring India without a single hiccup is testament to this.

To be fair, Pakistan doesn't have to justify anything because right now India is suffering from domestic terrorism making the country woefully unsafe for years, if not decades.

The spotlight on terrorism is on India, and they don't even know it.

 

[Rajdeep]

So start sports doesn't even name Pakistan as host nation in champion trophy promo.

During last Asia Cup also the T-shirts didn't had the host name Pakistan written on it.

1 month later, all teams including Pakistan had India written on their Jerseys for WC 2023.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Indian groupies more interested in seeing Pakistan lose CT hosting rights, then actually playing cricket.

Nothing more then glorified attempt at lame attempts.

Most comical aspect being the who were giving 24, 48 hour ultimatums, which has now turned into childish tantrums.

Why not preach about how dangerous Pakistan is on ICF or cricbuzz or some other 3rd rate forum.

 

[emranabbas]

Good points and I agree with you mostly.
But the terrorists, who intend on attacking the cricketers, are not going to consider if their acts are beneficial to Pakistan or not.

Why would Pakistani terrorists attack their own country? It just doesn’t make sense, this isn’t some Bollywood movie.

It’s pretty clear that we’ve made enemies in Afghanistan by allowing the US to fight the war on terror against Afghan terrorists on our soil.

Now, these Afghan terrorists are targeting Pakistan and its people as payback.

What makes it even more interesting is that Afghanistan is close allies with India, which makes you wonder if India is backing these attacks against Pakistan. The money is coming from somewhere!

And i wouldn't be surprised if India are planning another attack through these Afghans just to distrupt the Champions trophy in Pakistan just like how they did it when Sri Lanka was touring in 2009

 

[emranabbas]

I am not here to show my love for Pakistan. I am here to express my views.
On the hatred topic, this very thread is example of how much love India gets from the Pakistanis. What you sow is what you get.

Maybe you need to check the first few pages of this thread and see how much love the Indians gives Pakistan we are only returning it back with interest

 

[emranabbas]

Deep inside Pakistan fans are thinking when they have seen the promo .

But tbey can't do anything expect crying .
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Gajab bejjati Is when you still have to promote champions trophy hosted by Pakistan after being humiliated by PCB

 

[cricketAXEpert]

So I heard that apparently when Pakistan made a bid for the CT they made a joint bid(s) with Bangladesh and/or Sri Lanka too (not sure if it was one or both), probably knowing full well that this tamasha would occur. And instead ICC awarded Pakistan the full tournament!

I don't think there is a more useless and powerless governing sports organization in the world than the ICC.

Glorified event organizing body that isn't even in control of its own events anymore.

Unless Pakistan and India bilateral series restarts, it should be expected that India is not coming to Pakistan. Don't see that happening till Modi ji is in power. PCB needs to prepare for that in advance. For other teams it was just the security issue, for India it is case of inter country relationships. Don't know why PCB goes thru the same song and dance every time they are hosting.

 

[Technics 1210]

Alot of people tend to forget. When Pakistan accepted the Hybrid model during the Asia Cup, it was not an ICC event.

The CT however is an ICC event.

The pitiful BCCI didn't notice and neither did the ICC. There was no precedent set for a hybrid model in an ICC event - this is the first - and obvious what is at stake for BCCI and the sponsors.

BCCI cannot even invoke the force majeure clause as this is something in BCCI's control. Though it doesn't matter now cos never will the sponsors and media trust the BCCI again!

 

[chinaman00]

Player safety concerns by India could be a legitimate concern but ‘bigger targets’ such as England, New Zealand, Australia and South Africa have successfully toured Pakistan multiple times, which nullify Indian concerns.

India not touring Pakistan is a geopolitical decision to further India’s dream of isolating Pakistan. This will remain a dream for India because Pakistan is successfully isolating itself both at home and to the world.

 

[zn426]

I replied to a sensible post by @zn426

He mentioned "Pakistan would have the most to lose if the Indian team were attacked in Pakistan."

While agreeing with him, I also reminded him that any terrorists potentially planning for an attack would not consider if their acts would be good for Pakistan or not. I never mentioned any imminent threat. Keep in mind, I even wanted ICT to go and play the CT in Pakistan. I guess you had some comprehension deficiency with my post that resulted in unwanted reaction.

Depends on who you are speaking to.

If Pakistan truly has control over LET, TTP, etc. then one word to them "don't you dare try to attack this tournament or we will wipe you out" would be enough to completely annihilate them...except that already happened after the 2014 Peshawar school attacks.
If they do not then the security issue falls back to Pakistani security...which has successfully protected cricket teams from Zimbabwe to England for the last 9 years without incident and spanning multiple political administrations.

India needs to be honest. It's not a security issue. It's 100% about exerting leverage over Pakistan politically and monetarily-an attempt that is failing.

Frankly, it doesn't surprise me. When a government is OK with massacring its own citizens, what hope do a bunch of wallet-driven ignorant Hindutva twats have of overcoming such a foreign government's will?

 

[ChennaiFan]

Depends on who you are speaking to.

If Pakistan truly has control over LET, TTP, etc. then one word to them "don't you dare try to attack this tournament or we will wipe you out" would be enough to completely annihilate them...except that already happened after the 2014 Peshawar school attacks.
If they do not then the security issue falls back to Pakistani security...which has successfully protected cricket teams from Zimbabwe to England for the last 9 years without incident and spanning multiple political administrations.

India needs to be honest. It's not a security issue. It's 100% about exerting leverage over Pakistan politically and monetarily-an attempt that is failing.

Frankly, it doesn't surprise me. When a government is OK with massacring its own citizens, what hope do a bunch of wallet-driven ignorant Hindutva twats have of overcoming such a foreign government's will?

As a common man, I was still hesitant about ICT's security especially when some Pakistanis consider Indians as Dushman. Having said that, I too believe the BCCI's decision to not to send ICT to Pakistan was not based on security assessment and it was a political ploy. Is it just? No, it is not. But, with the bad relations between these two countries now, it was not an unexpected move.

 

[BouncerGuy]

India really has no excuse left that they have not given. Every excuse in the book is visible here.

 

[mango_bite77]

So start sports doesn't even name Pakistan as host nation in champion trophy promo.

In some weeks Star sports wouldn't even know there was any pink ball test in BGT'24 or they already don't know there was a team which got all out on 36. That doesn't mean it never happened.

They know how to create their own happiness

 

[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan Cricket Board Demands Written Assurance From ICC On Hybrid Model For Champions Trophy 2025

As the cricketing world braces for the ICC’s final verdict on the Champions Trophy 2025, the controversy surrounding Pakistan's hosting rights has taken center stage. Amid geopolitical complexities and cricket's ever-growing global appeal, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has set forth a pivotal condition: a written assurance from the ICC on the hybrid model for future international tournaments. The hybrid model, first implemented during the 2023 Asia Cup, has now become a contentious talking point. Under this model, India, abiding by its government’s policy, played its Asia Cup matches in Colombo, while the rest of the tournament unfolded in Pakistan. For the Champions Trophy 2025, the PCB has proposed a similar arrangement: India’s matches, including potential semifinal and final appearances, will take place in Dubai, while Pakistan will host the remainder of the tournament.

This compromise aims to address India’s concerns while preserving Pakistan’s hosting rights. However, the PCB's demand for a written commitment from the ICC on adopting this model for future events raises questions about its broader implications. Would such a precedent alter the dynamics of cricket diplomacy, or is it a temporary fix to an evolving geopolitical challenge?

SOURCE: https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-model-for-champions-trophy-2025-2829790.html

 

[Hikaru]

India really has no excuse left that they have not given. Every excuse in the book is visible here.

Pakistani inability to accept valid reasons does not make them an excuse brother. Indian Cricketers are high profile targets in Pakistan given the history and certain individuals it shelters.

Having tried with my past posts, seems to me nothing will convince Pakistanis of the same, so fair enough. Lets wait for a final call on the Champion's Trophy, might put an end to the chest-thumping on either side.

 

[adil_909]

I have said this before, and will say it again.

India don't want to send their team to India because they know it is safe, nothing will happen to their players, in fact their players will be treated with love and respect.

But the racist and hateful Indian government has staked their reputation on Muslims and Pakistanis in particular being dangerous and violent, thus justifying their own racist and supremacist views.

So sending their team, being met with love and respect, and having nothing happen to them, will destroy the rhetoric, and make the Indian government look like idiots. So hence, here we are.

PCB doing absolutely the right thing, don't make any concessions, and continue to expose the hate from across the border. If Pakistan is too dangerous for India (it's not), then India is too dangerous for Pakistan (it's not). Until a more tolerant and sensible government is in place in India, then this is the best way forward.

 

[adil_909]

Pakistani inability to accept valid reasons does not make them an excuse brother. Indian Cricketers are high profile targets in Pakistan given the history and certain individuals it shelters.

Having tried with my past posts, seems to me nothing will convince Pakistanis of the same, so fair enough. Lets wait for a final call on the Champion's Trophy, might put an end to the chest-thumping on either side.

Yes, this is what your racist government has convinced you of. But the truth is that that Indian cricketers will be met with love and respect, as they always have in the past when they have toured. This is the reality that your pathetic and racist government is afraid of. Because if they come, nothing happens to them, tournament goes off without issues, then it exposes this big lie that your entire country falsely believes about Pakistanis and Muslims.

 

[Devadwal]

In some weeks Star sports wouldn't even know there was any pink ball test in BGT'24 or they already don't know there was a team which got all out on 36. That doesn't mean it never happened.

They know how to create their own happiness

Star sports known that only one Asian team has won back to back series in australia after 36 all out .

They also know some other team's don't even have capability to drawn a test in australia.

And some sections of fans can't digest this facts so they are even blamed IPL for poor performance of Australia against india in australia .

So let's stick to this thread because truth is bitter for pakistan fan's

 

[Devadwal]

Pakistan Cricket Board Demands Written Assurance From ICC On Hybrid Model For Champions Trophy 2025

As the cricketing world braces for the ICC’s final verdict on the Champions Trophy 2025, the controversy surrounding Pakistan's hosting rights has taken center stage. Amid geopolitical complexities and cricket's ever-growing global appeal, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has set forth a pivotal condition: a written assurance from the ICC on the hybrid model for future international tournaments. The hybrid model, first implemented during the 2023 Asia Cup, has now become a contentious talking point. Under this model, India, abiding by its government’s policy, played its Asia Cup matches in Colombo, while the rest of the tournament unfolded in Pakistan. For the Champions Trophy 2025, the PCB has proposed a similar arrangement: India’s matches, including potential semifinal and final appearances, will take place in Dubai, while Pakistan will host the remainder of the tournament.

This compromise aims to address India’s concerns while preserving Pakistan’s hosting rights. However, the PCB's demand for a written commitment from the ICC on adopting this model for future events raises questions about its broader implications. Would such a precedent alter the dynamics of cricket diplomacy, or is it a temporary fix to an evolving geopolitical challenge?

SOURCE: https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-model-for-champions-trophy-2025-2829790.html

So what will happen if india doesn't signed any documents ( They will never) ?

 

[Hikaru]

In some weeks Star sports wouldn't even know there was any pink ball test in BGT'24 or they already don't know there was a team which got all out on 36. That doesn't mean it never happened.

They know how to create their own happiness

There was BGT'24 pink test and there was all out on 36. But what will not be is PCB's day-dream of Indian Cricketers visiting Pakistan.

 

[mango_bite77]

There was BGT'24 pink test and there was all out on 36. But what will not be is PCB's day-dream of Indian Cricketers visiting Pakistan.

True, but all other sports team barring cricket has travelled Pakistan but jawan lives only matter when cricketers travel to Pakistan.

 

[mango_bite77]

Star sports known that only one Asian team has won back to back series in australia after 36 all out .

They also know some other team's don't even have capability to drawn a test in australia.

And some sections of fans can't digest this facts so they are even blamed IPL for poor performance of Australia against india in australia .

So let's stick to this thread because truth is bitter for pakistan fan's

Star sports probably didn't know there was something called BGT before 2018. Only when u start winning, the trophy is hyped to the moon. Indians are always happy with their pseudo marketing campaigns be it cricket or politics.

 

[Hikaru]

Yes, this is what your racist government has convinced you of. But the truth is that that Indian cricketers will be met with love and respect, as they always have in the past when they have toured. This is the reality that your pathetic and racist government is afraid of. Because if they come, nothing happens to them, tournament goes off without issues, then it exposes this big lie that your entire country falsely believes about Pakistanis and Muslims.

Nothing against Pakistanis or Muslims. I know for a fact that Indian Cricketers will be greeted with love by the masses. If anything, thats something Indian Cricketers have loved about Pakistan even in the past.

The problem is groups and individuals who have been actively involved in terrorism against India. Cricket teams have been targetted before.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please stay on topic instead of talking about BGT here.

 

[Hikaru]

True, but all other sports team barring cricket has travelled Pakistan but jawan lives only matter when cricketers travel to Pakistan.

Even top tennis palyers decided to skip important Davis Cup tie, took those decisions in personal capacity as well. No one forced them, it was thier individual threat perception.

I totally get your perspective as a Pakistani, but visiting Pakistan has an air of uneasiness among Indian public and apparently BCCI too. You can call the reasons made-up, but this is where we disagree.

 

[adil_909]

Nothing against Pakistanis or Muslims. I know for a fact that Indian Cricketers will be greeted with love by the masses. If anything, thats something Indian Cricketers have loved about Pakistan even in the past.

The problem is groups and individuals who have been actively involved in terrorism against India. Cricket teams have been targetted before.

Do you agree that if India tours, and if they are greeted with love by the masses as you have said, and if tournament goes off without any security issues for India or any other team, then:

1.) It makes indian government look foolish
2.) It gives you no reason to avoid touring in the future
3.) It would be good for Pakistan as a country and PCB as a board?

If you agree yes to that, then you will have your answer as to why your government doesnt want the team to tour, and is willing to make up whatever lies to protect their own interest, and harm ours.

 

[rpant_gabba]

So what will happen if india doesn't signed any documents ( They will never) ?

Not sure why every thought this was a done deal.

PCB asks for it writing and BCCI obliges: in what cray world people think this is a realistic outcome.

Given the acrimony between BCCI and PCB, GOI and GOP, why deos anyone think BCCI wil shoot itself in the foot?

 

[Slim]

So start sports doesn't even name Pakistan as host nation in champion trophy promo.

I would never question Afridi’s judgement about you folks. He was right then, and he will be right forever. Some ethnic groups just dont have some particular elements. In this case class. No matter how rich you get, some folks still cant hide the ugly inside. The language, the accent, the culture and behavior. Classless.

 

[Slim]

Not sure why every thought this was a done deal.

PCB asks for it writing and BCCI obliges: in what cray world people think this is a realistic outcome.

Given the acrimony between BCCI and PCB, GOI and GOP, why deos anyone think BCCI wil shoot itself in the foot?

Whats the wait buddy? Why hasnt the powerful BCCI steam rolled PCB?

 

[Slim]

Unless Pakistan and India bilateral series restarts, it should be expected that India is not coming to Pakistan. Don't see that happening till Modi ji is in power. PCB needs to prepare for that in advance. For other teams it was just the security issue, for India it is case of inter country relationships. Don't know why PCB goes thru the same song and dance every time they are hosting.

I dont see Pakistan/PCB coming to India either so BCCI needs to prepare in advance. I personally dont want india to come to Pakistan since day one. I dont want any relations with a country that is responsible for sponsoring terrorism in my birth country. The presence of indian navy officer Kulbushan Yadav is a living example of this terror sponsorship every single day. But only if i was the decision maker.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Nothing against Pakistanis or Muslims. I know for a fact that Indian Cricketers will be greeted with love by the masses. If anything, thats something Indian Cricketers have loved about Pakistan even in the past.

The problem is groups and individuals who have been actively involved in terrorism against India. Cricket teams have been targetted before.

Nobody is asking India to come anymore.

90% Pakistanis do not care

you can continue to cry out loud at top of your lungs about 2009 SL attack and Alleged terrorism. It makes no difference as other teams will tour Pakistan in CT 2025 and future as well

You were not coming before , we did nt care

 

[Slim]

Nobody is asking India to come anymore.

90% Pakistanis do not care

you can continue to cry out loud at top of your lungs about 2009 SL attack and Alleged terrorism. It makes no difference as other teams will tour Pakistan in CT 2025 and future as well

You were not coming before , we did nt care

India is alleged to be behind 2009 SL Attacks as they have sponsoring TTP in Pakistan. I echo your thoughts, and so do many Pakistanis. At first we wanted to just enjoy a game of cricket but seeing the deceitful, hypocritical, dishonest and disgusting behaviour of these people - i think we are done and and fatigued. We dont want anything to do with indians, just like rest of the world. Its a global fatigue. Me and my fellow canadians feel it everyday too.

 

[Vikram1989]

Not sure why every thought this was a done deal.

PCB asks for it writing and BCCI obliges: in what cray world people think this is a realistic outcome.

Given the acrimony between BCCI and PCB, GOI and GOP, why deos anyone think BCCI wil shoot itself in the foot?

Exactly. On Saturday some said pak won the battle and announcement in couple of hours.nothing happened till now apart from the thread title

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pakistan Cricket Board Demands Written Assurance From ICC On Hybrid Model For Champions Trophy 2025

As the cricketing world braces for the ICC’s final verdict on the Champions Trophy 2025, the controversy surrounding Pakistan's hosting rights has taken center stage. Amid geopolitical complexities and cricket's ever-growing global appeal, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has set forth a pivotal condition: a written assurance from the ICC on the hybrid model for future international tournaments. The hybrid model, first implemented during the 2023 Asia Cup, has now become a contentious talking point. Under this model, India, abiding by its government’s policy, played its Asia Cup matches in Colombo, while the rest of the tournament unfolded in Pakistan. For the Champions Trophy 2025, the PCB has proposed a similar arrangement: India’s matches, including potential semifinal and final appearances, will take place in Dubai, while Pakistan will host the remainder of the tournament.

This compromise aims to address India’s concerns while preserving Pakistan’s hosting rights. However, the PCB's demand for a written commitment from the ICC on adopting this model for future events raises questions about its broader implications. Would such a precedent alter the dynamics of cricket diplomacy, or is it a temporary fix to an evolving geopolitical challenge?

SOURCE: https://zeenews.india.com/cricket/p...-model-for-champions-trophy-2025-2829790.html

 

[Rajdeep]

PCB is acting very silly now. What is the point of asking hybrid model for a tournament that already has got a co-host? Then additional childish demands like pls saar play a tri series with us, increase our revenue, give us in writing etc etc. These are all child like tantrums.

PCB has lost this battle on 29th Nov when they accepted hybrid model, simple. Anything they say or bargain now is mostly for domestic consumption and will not be entertained by ICC. They should have remained firm on their initial stance of no hybrid model just like India is sticking to their original stance of not sending its team to Pakistan.

PCB has thouroughly embarrassed themselves in this saga and I don't think they will get any ICC event for next few decades. And yes, I am 100% certain that this CT will not be played in Feb and will be cancelled/postponed.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

PCB is acting very silly now. What is the point of asking hybrid model for a tournament that already has got a co-host? Then additional childish demands like pls saar play a tri series with us, increase our revenue, give us in writing etc etc. These are all child like tantrums.

PCB has lost this battle on 29th Nov when they accepted hybrid model, simple. Anything they say or bargain now is mostly for domestic consumption and will not be entertained by ICC. They should have remained firm on their initial stance of no hybrid model just like India is sticking to their original stance of not sending its team to Pakistan.

PCB has thouroughly embarrassed themselves in this saga and I don't think they will get any ICC event for next few decades. And yes, I am 100% certain that this CT will not be played in Feb and will be cancelled/postponed.

PCB is firm - No hybrid model unless hybrids are reciprocated elsewhere. So far hybrid hasn't been accepted in any capacity apart from this by the PCB, and this has only been proposed to ensure the good-will of other board members who are also being held hostage here by India.

As per revenue and tri-series you are going on about we don't know how much of that is true and how much is rumours.

The only thing we know for a fact is the demand for reciprocal hybrid agreements and this demand sent BCCI and Indian government into an absolute frenzy and Indian fans into a tailspin.

If you take off your saffron tinted spectacles which to be fair you do occassionaly you will see quite clearly who the embarassed party is. Particularly for the demands for Pakistan to visit India

 

[Rajdeep]

PCB is firm - No hybrid model unless hybrids are reciprocated elsewhere. So far hybrid hasn't been accepted in any capacity apart from this by the PCB, and this has only been proposed to ensure the good-will of other board members who are also being held hostage here by India.

PCB want to reciprocate hybrid model for a tournament that has already got a co-host. This doesn't make sense to me. I mean they can simply request ICC to keep their matches outside India and organize them in co-hosted venue and trust ICC to take care of business nearer to the tournament. However, they are simply holding the ICC hostage by saying give us in writing from now for an event that is suppose to happen in 2026

As per revenue and tri-series you are going on about we don't know how much of that is true and how much is rumours.

Cricinfo and Sports Tak reported, so those are very credible sources. PCB had following demands:

1. Increase our revenue - Declined.
2. Play a tri-series with India and another country - Denied
3. Give us extra money to host matches in UAE and not to share it with Emirates board - Denied
4. ICC to compensate loss of gate money - Accepted
5. All Pak future ICC events in India till 2027 will be hybrid - Ahem, okay...we will think about it when time comes.

The only thing we know for a fact is the demand for reciprocal hybrid agreements and this demand sent BCCI and Indian government into an absolute frenzy and Indian fans into a tailspin.

I see and I was thinking why Modi suddenly decided to speak in Parliament this Thursday. May be he will address this grave concern India is facing at present.

If you take off your saffron tinted spectacles which to be fair you do occassionaly you will see quite clearly who the embarassed party is. Particularly for the demands for Pakistan to visit India

I never wear any tinted glass and always give fair & unbiased judgement on various issues. PCB was initially right in their stance of no hybrid model and should have stuck to it. Many Indians including me was supporting them on this. However, they got greedy and started making childish demands forgetting their initial stance. Have you seen BCCI making any demands or compromise to their original demand?

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

PCB is acting very silly now. What is the point of asking hybrid model for a tournament that already has got a co-host? Then additional childish demands like pls saar play a tri series with us, increase our revenue, give us in writing etc etc. These are all child like tantrums.

PCB has lost this battle on 29th Nov when they accepted hybrid model, simple. Anything they say or bargain now is mostly for domestic consumption and will not be entertained by ICC. They should have remained firm on their initial stance of no hybrid model just like India is sticking to their original stance of not sending its team to Pakistan.

PCB has thouroughly embarrassed themselves in this saga and I don't think they will get any ICC event for next few decades. And yes, I am 100% certain that this CT will not be played in Feb and will be cancelled/postponed.

The pot calling the kettle black

 

[DeadlyVenom]

PCB want to reciprocate hybrid model for a tournament that has already got a co-host. This doesn't make sense to me. I mean they can simply request ICC to keep their matches outside India and organize them in co-hosted venue and trust ICC to take care of business nearer to the tournament. However, they are simply holding the ICC hostage by saying give us in writing from now for an event that is suppose to happen in 2026


Cricinfo and Sports Tak reported, so those are very credible sources. PCB had following demands:

1. Increase our revenue - Declined.
2. Play a tri-series with India and another country - Denied
3. Give us extra money to host matches in UAE and not to share it with Emirates board - Denied
4. ICC to compensate loss of gate money - Accepted
5. All Pak future ICC events in India till 2027 will be hybrid - Ahem, okay...we will think about it when time comes.


I see and I was thinking why Modi suddenly decided to speak in Parliament this Thursday. May be he will address this grave concern India is facing at present.


I never wear any tinted glass and always give fair & unbiased judgement on various issues. PCB was initially right in their stance of no hybrid model and should have stuck to it. Many Indians including me was supporting them on this. However, they got greedy and started making childish demands forgetting their initial stance. Have you seen BCCI making any demands or compromise to their original demand?

Brother you are a sensible guy with a good job so are aware of how things should properly be handled. Ask yourself really what is the most appropriate behaviour., I am surprised to see you use such emoji about PCB request to the ICC in 2026.

BCCI before champions trophy - complete silence, let preliminary arrangements be made and then pull out with 3 months to go.

OR PCB asking to finalise a tournament schedule and format many years before the 2026 tournament to ensure that there is no disruption to the wider cricketing community.

Which of the above two scenarios deserves mocking, ridicule or facepalm?


PCB is dealing with things maturely by making such demands and it also gives the wider cricketing world confidence about the tournament as it will all be settled many months in advance. The matter is made more urgent by many Indians gleefully asking for their government to sign agreements, etc, only to urge them to back out at the last minute. Pakistan is rightly worried and needs things to be legal not desi handshakes.

You can see the statements from the former BJP sports minister, which were very childish to see how much the PCB proposal rattled them. I have been studying this issue intently, GOI has reacted furiously.

As far as Pakistan's demands are concerned, they have every right to make them, just as the ICC has the right to accept or reject them. This is how negotiations are handled. PCB haven't thrown their toys out of the pram or handed ultimatums. Only asked that fairness and equality is applied.

 

[Devadwal]

@Rajdeep Pakistan fans are think that Broadcasters are behind why India- Pakistan is much needed for any ICC tournaments ,ok agree

But how the hell same broadcasters will allow india to Play Their game against Pakistan and the 2026 World T20 final outside india when same broadcasters spent 3bn deal with ICC just for Indian territory . They will say to ICC or any other party to get lost as we are already paid you and will will decided where will be the match played.

This simple facts delusion poster's won't understand.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

PCB is acting very silly now. What is the point of asking hybrid model for a tournament that already has got a co-host? Then additional childish demands like pls saar play a tri series with us, increase our revenue, give us in writing etc etc. These are all child like tantrums.

PCB has lost this battle on 29th Nov when they accepted hybrid model, simple. Anything they say or bargain now is mostly for domestic consumption and will not be entertained by ICC. They should have remained firm on their initial stance of no hybrid model just like India is sticking to their original stance of not sending its team to Pakistan.

PCB has thouroughly embarrassed themselves in this saga and I don't think they will get any ICC event for next few decades. And yes, I am 100% certain that this CT will not be played in Feb and will be cancelled/postponed.

Where will the final be played - India or Sri Lanka? And how did the PCB lose this battle? The BCCI came armed with a single-edged sword, but the PCB handed them a double-edged one, which both the BCCI and some fans are finding hard to handle. PCB is not acting silly here. They just want to host this tournament.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@Rajdeep Pakistan fans are think that Broadcasters are behind why India- Pakistan is much needed for any ICC tournaments ,ok agree

But how the hell same broadcasters will allow india to Play Their game against Pakistan and the 2026 World T20 final outside india when same broadcasters spent 3bn deal with ICC just for Indian territory . They will say to ICC or any other party to get lost as we are already paid you and will will decided where will be the match played.

This simple facts delusion poster's won't understand.

An India vs. Pakistan cricket match will grab eyeballs whether it’s played in Honolulu, Timbuktu, or even on the moon.

 

[Rajdeep]

Where will the final be played - India or Sri Lanka? And how did the PCB lose this battle? The BCCI came armed with a single-edged sword, but the PCB handed them a double-edged one, which both the BCCI and some fans are finding hard to handle. PCB is not acting silly here. They just want to host this tournament.

The things I am saying is not my personal opinion but what is going to happen based on my experience. I am not posting something out of emotions.

1. Final of WT20 2026 will be played in Narendra Modi Stadium Ahmadabad. One have to be extremely naive to think broadcasters and ICC will let go a showpiece event in-front of 100k attendance stadium for the sake of PCT. Think I have explained this thrice since yesterday. Had they (BCCI & ICC) accepted otherwise and agreed to PCBs demands, schedule will be out by now.

2. India will also not play any of its matches in SL including the one against Pakistan in group stages. Yes if PCB still denies traveling to India at that time, ICC will simply put these 2 teams in separate groups. Sure ICC/Broadcaster will make loss due to no Ind-Pak game but BCCI can easily compensate them considering they will be the host board.

3. Pak will play all their group matches and if qualifies will also play the semi final in SL. However they have to still travel to India for the final. Chances of it happening is less though as Pakistan won't qualify for finals anyway but I am just saying what is going to happen.

The fight between BCCI & PCB was former was reluctant to send its team to Pak from Day 1 and PCB was rigid in holding the entire tournament in Pakistan. BCCI is still stuck to their original stance of not sending its players to Pakistan at any condition. PCB on the other hand have already accepted hybrid model in lieu of few demands. So it is clear to me who won this battle.

Champions trophy now can only happen in Feb 2025 hosted by PCB under following conditions:

1. India matches, 1 semi final and final will be in UAE.
2. PCB will be compensated for the loss of gate money and will get hosting fees separately.
3. Pak will play all their matches in WT20 2026 in SL barring the final and India game.

If PCB is firm on not accepting any of the above, Champions Trophy will either gets cancelled or postponed. PCB unfortunately is in no position to arm twist either BCCI or ICC.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

India will also not play any of its matches in SL including the one against Pakistan in group stages. Yes if PCB still denies traveling to India at that time, ICC will simply put these 2 teams in separate groups. Sure ICC/Broadcaster will make loss due to no Ind-Pak game but BCCI can easily compensate them considering they will be the host board.

This is the stand off. PCB does nt want to play India in UAE unless they are guaranteed a match in Colombo against India. Underlying thought is why give Indian broadcaster and BCCI what they want right now and not getting anything in return

So no one has lost yet. Cricket for sure is loosing as Tournament might get postponed or even cancelled. Cricinfo Journalist Jarod kimber said that CT 2025 only exists to have Ind play Pak. Otherwise this tournament serves no purpose and Pak has got this as bargaining tool now

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

An India vs. Pakistan cricket match will grab eyeballs whether it’s played in Honolulu, Timbuktu, or even on the moon.

yes. Where the match is played does nt matter and pretty sure Broadcasters have no such condition of Venue as some posters are trying to convince others here

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

An India vs. Pakistan cricket match will grab eyeballs whether it’s played in Honolulu, Timbuktu, or even on the moon.

Broadcasters are not supposed to get gate receipts of High capacity stadium.Same number of People will watch game on Tv even if its in Timbuktu as you put it

 

[Varun]

Final of WT20 2026 will be played in Narendra Modi Stadium Ahmadabad. One have to be extremely naive to think broadcasters and ICC will let go a showpiece event in-front of 100k attendance stadium for the sake of PCT. Think I have explained this thrice since yesterday. Had they (BCCI & ICC) accepted otherwise and agreed to PCBs demands, schedule will be out by now.

That tier-B town with no meat and alcohol doesn't deserve to host so many important games.

 

[Rajdeep]

Good discussion - Champions trophy only exists bcoz of Ind v Pak game

 

[BouncerGuy]

Rashid Latif speaking during an event:

"Champions Trophy shouldn't happen anymore. You should say no before they refuse.”

"We have always been made scapegoats, be it Afghan war or cricket. PCB, ACB, and ICC are the same as they can't fight against the BCCI. They have the chance to push Pakistan to the front. We have joined hands and are fighting against it, but the only fear is that if India boycotts, where do we stand."

 

[BouncerGuy]

Wasim Akram speaking during a Coke Studio event:

"I would like to thank everyone. Your passion is typical Pakistani passion. This is the Champions Trophy which is happening in Pakistan."

 

[shah9425]

Still drama continues

Thanks to incompetent Cricket Council

 

[cricketjoshila]

PCB wants to host the CT in Pakistan. India won't visit Pakistan. So there will be financial losses. Why can't PCB simply make good on these losses and CT can be held without India.

 

[Rana]

Looks like there is more chance for the Palestine issue to be resolved than this dumb champions trophy issue

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

So what will happen if india doesn't signed any documents ( They will never) ?

Why is India agreeing to this if they can't even give a written assurance? What are they trying to do? Dupe Pakistan?

In the real world there is no such thing as a verbal assurance.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

PCB wants to host the CT in Pakistan. India won't visit Pakistan. So there will be financial losses. Why can't PCB simply make good on these losses and CT can be held without India.

Very good theory.

PCB should "simply" make good on losses. Send your food bill receipts to PCB too and ask them to clear them for you while you are it.

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

Good discussion - Champions trophy only exists bcoz of Ind v Pak game

i mentioned this to you yesterday

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

PCB wants to host the CT in Pakistan. India won't visit Pakistan. So there will be financial losses. Why can't PCB simply make good on these losses and CT can be held without India.

why should Pak do anything ? They already have hosting rights given by Board of ICC.

Why should Pak cover Financial losses because India wont travel? Its ICC that needs to address this. As a tournament Organiser , they should clear the situation. They can take away hosting rights if they want. whats stopping them?

 

[Wasim Ghulam]

i mentioned this to you yesterday

now you admit that Pak has a card to play? Pak never used Indo Pak game as bargaining tool before but PCB is doing it now

Time to find out reality of this theory