Sure. PCB did all tat in the greater interest foi cricket and nothing to do with money.Were you even paying attention when the tours of 1999, 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2012 happened? When you run out of arguments to defend the BCCI's and your own hypocrisy, you conveniently go back to the 1990s while deliberately ignoring these tours.
If those are good reasons, why did pak show in the middle of a war in 1999? : for money.
You tell us read history but you your self Is very poor with history
That "crap" hasn't stopped. what made PCB tour afterewards?
I am laughing so hard at Naqvi for taking insult and injury.
LOL....c'mmon buddy
If India does not play Pak in ICC or ACC event and as you say boards like PCB, SLCB, WICB and BCB take a massive hit and will have no where to hide, than its those boards is problem, why should India be concerned at the end of the day India main issue or argument is cant play cricket with Pakistan when the Jawans are dying at the borderLOL....c'mmon buddy
Is PCB not directly controlled by Pak govt and prime minister of Pakistan elects the Chairman?
BCCI acts like hypocrite of picking and choosing when to play Pakistan. This has been agreed multiple times. However, I have also explained the reason why they do that.
First of all, India has strong reason(s) to not engage with Pakistan at all for multiple reasons I explained previously. Many Indian Govt's over the year tried to rebuild this relationship and only got backstabbing. Present India is a progressive nation and they gain nothing in engaging with Pakistan.
BCCI understands it as well and don't want to engage with Pakistan in bilateral cricket as they gain nothing. Indian cricket board is sitting on billions of dollars without playing with Pakistan since 2008. One edition of IPL gives them more profit than probably 5 bilateral tours with Pakistan. So they have zero incentive to play.
However, during ICC events, Ind v Pak game is the biggest seller. There are multiple reasons for it, political or we play so rarely etc. but it is a cash cow for governing bodies like ICC/ACC. Most of these tournaments like CT or Asia cup only exists so that these 2 teams can play against each other. So BCCI, even unwillingly honour this commitment so that ICC can make money which then down streams to all other boards including PCB. If BCCI decide to not engage with Pakistan at all even in ICC/ACC events, they will get lower share from ICC but boards like PCB, SLCB, WICB, BCB etc will take massive hit. BCCI can anytime increase the tender of IPL and recover that money but these other boards have no where to hide.
but their Indian broadcasters and sponsors are crying their eyes out for a pakistan vs indian and want to welcome pakistan to visit the same country where pakistan have killed their jawaans with belly dancers dancing on the ground as a big welcome
Agree 100% and that is why I strongly believe BCCI should have one stance. Either we play with Pakistan every where or not at all. This picking and choosing makes us look like hypocrites even though the intention of BCCI is to make money for global cricket.
LOL....c'mmon buddy
Is PCB not directly controlled by Pak govt and prime minister of Pakistan elects the Chairman?
BCCI acts like hypocrite of picking and choosing when to play Pakistan. This has been agreed multiple times. However, I have also explained the reason why they do that.
First of all, India has strong reason(s) to not engage with Pakistan at all for multiple reasons I explained previously. Many Indian Govt's over the year tried to rebuild this relationship and only got backstabbing. Present India is a progressive nation and they gain nothing in engaging with Pakistan.
BCCI understands it as well and don't want to engage with Pakistan in bilateral cricket as they gain nothing. Indian cricket board is sitting on billions of dollars without playing with Pakistan since 2008. One edition of IPL gives them more profit than probably 5 bilateral tours with Pakistan. So they have zero incentive to play.
However, during ICC events, Ind v Pak game is the biggest seller. There are multiple reasons for it, political or we play so rarely etc. but it is a cash cow for governing bodies like ICC/ACC. Most of these tournaments like CT or Asia cup only exists so that these 2 teams can play against each other. So BCCI, even unwillingly honour this commitment so that ICC can make money which then down streams to all other boards including PCB. If BCCI decide to not engage with Pakistan at all even in ICC/ACC events, they will get lower share from ICC but boards like PCB, SLCB, WICB, BCB etc will take massive hit. BCCI can anytime increase the tender of IPL and recover that money but these other boards have no where to hide.
That is because PCB can't afford to. Their match with India is the reason PCB gets 4th largest chunk from ICC. These are not my words but Ramiz Raja mentioned it. PCB needs BCCI for monetary benefits and hence can't afford to be in war footing with India. Had they been as successful as BCCI, you would have heard about boycotting cricket with India until Kashmir issue is resolved or indian muslims get justice etc like they used to do in 90s. Now they simply can't afford to irk or arm twist BCCI in any form or shape.
This has nothing to do with BJP. Pakistan is a hostile enemy towards India since 1947 and BJP is only in power since last 10 years. So it can be any govt in India but the stand against Pakistan remains the same irrespective of the party. Even muslim leaders in India like Owaisi and his party AIMIM don't want to associate themselves with Pakistan. BCCI simply want to ignore playing cricket with such a country unless its an ICC event for the betterment of world cricket as the match against Pak brings money for other boards. Not sure in which other language I can explain. You are free to rubber stamp on anything but what I am saying is a fact.
Pakistan did not tour India in 1991 due to threats from Shiv Sena.
Ramiz is a guy who said Rizwan’s 50 Runs of 50 Balls other day was a great innings We Pakistanis do not take him serious neither should Indians. There are plenty of Stupid statements by Indians that we can quote here to justify ourselves but its no useThought as much. Knew this result was inevitable as soon as this whole drama kicked off. So obvious to see that they were going to select a hybrid model at the end of the day and all the posturing would amount to nothing.
Ramiz’s words are not divine sermon. Indians have stuck with his one statement like bee sticks to honey
You have been saying this for days now that BCCI plays Ind vs Pak to support smaller boards . There is no evidence to back it up. on the contrary BCCI takes out the largest share out of their territory revenue which is 80% of all Revenue by ICC and they take 38.5%. Thats literally half of it. how is that favour? we have no problem with it but stop peddling the narrative that BCCI does it for others like some favour. Sorry bruh not buying it
There is some hesitancy on the Indian side. Pakistan is proposing some alternative venues to Dubai but Indians are adamant they are only playing in UAE.
What are the alternatives?
This is a versus Competition and always another team to play against. whatever broadcasters pay for India , BCCI only deserves half of it. so they are not exactly giving out favour. Some say its 80% share in overall cycle and recently it has gone to 90%. There is no working paper from ICC to prove exact percentage and different news report it different but 38.5% is big number. stop saying we do not need it it does not prove anythingMost likely Today we will get official news from ICC.
Who gets to get hit hard if ICC handouts are stopped ? BCCI or PCB !!!Logic has left the planet.
Indian Broadcasters do not pay ICC to just watch Indian Team Practice
By now it is clear as daylight , that Ind vs Pak is biggest cash cow and tournaments like CT 2025 exist so Ind and Pak play each other. So whatever broadcasters is paying for this game ( their internal revenue estimation not shared to anyone) , Pakistan is not getting what it is owed being 50% part of cash cow game. Again not buying it
ps stop dwelling on Ramiz's statement
They tried something after that. Ended up having to pay the BCCI just a little over $1 million.
ICC handouts? who gives handouts? ICC shares profit with members who participate in tournaments. Delusional Fans
One team walks out, so do 90 percent of the profits. Hence handouts, be grateful to the mighty BCCI.
I think BCCI has been weak. They should be demanding more. Austerity will do world cricket a lot good. put boards like OPCB in their place.why you guys have difficulty in understanding that Broadcasters have a business model. they are not offering charity to ICC on behalf of Indian Public. If Broadcasters are offering X amount of their dollars , They are supposed to make profit on it. No resources of India are being used here .. what a deluded notion you guys have.
Indian Team and BCCI alone dnt make money. They gotta turn up and play the competition. The other team that turns up is not Indian Resource
main one is Sri Lanka.
They throw baseless allegations shamelessly but don't have enough stomach to read their financial reports which simply states "50 percent hand outs "Remember @Junaids once started a thread claiming how BCCI is basically a bankrupt board because of their expenses and how they require ICC handouts to remain solvent?
Why sl after the Asia Cup fiasco. If am from pcb ,i will never go towards Lanka again
I'm not sure how the payments work but I imagine its a lot cheaper than hosting in UAE.
What Austerity?
Actors worked in the movie to make that movie consumable commodity. Without other Teams , ICC tournament is not consumable so everyone deserves the share in pie.
Bangladesh should be hosting more tournaments tbh. A lot of people would love to play in Daka.
Logic has left the planet.
Indian Broadcasters do not pay ICC to just watch Indian Team Practice
By now it is clear as daylight , that Ind vs Pak is biggest cash cow and tournaments like CT 2025 exist so Ind and Pak play each other. So whatever broadcasters is paying for this game ( their internal revenue estimation not shared to anyone) , Pakistan is not getting what it is owed being 50% part of cash cow game. Again not buying it
ps stop dwelling on Ramiz's statement
territory has got nothing to do with it. They pay top $ because Broadcaster expect a competition in which India plays another international team. nationality of broadcaster does nt even matter. Indian Public consumes the competition , Broadcaster wants to cash in , Buy the rights because they expect big companies to run their ads during the game. its all business from ICC to Broadcasters to Advertisers. Everyone has incentive in the process . it’s not charity by Indian public out of their pockets neither by BCCI. In fact BCCI is beneficiary . Game happens between two teams. How would broadcaster pay for it if other team does nt show up?
Territory has very much to do with it.
the indian boards intention is to make money for themselves not global cricket.
Daily reminder - when we will PCB and BCB along with other's forming the new cricketing alliance as suggested by you .
what about Knockouts ? If Pakistan reaches final in t20 wc? is this addressed? because thats where the deadlock has beenIt seem like ICC has finally broken the deadlock.
As per ESPN Cricinfo
The ICC has finally reached a breakthrough in the 2025 Champions Trophy impasse, with a hybrid model agreed upon that will see India's matches in the eight-team event taking place at a neutral venue. In return, Pakistan's matches with India in ICC events hosted by India will also take place at a neutral venue.
ESPNcricinfo has seen a resolution with details of the agreement, and which is expected to undergo an ICC board vote, in which during the 2024-2027 event cycle, all matches involving India in an event hosted in Pakistan will be played at a neutral venue, and in return all matches involving Pakistan in an event hosted by India will be played at a neutral venue. This agreement applies to the 2025 men's Champions Trophy in Pakistan, the 2025 women's ODI World Cup in India, and the 2026 men's T20 World Cup in India and Sri Lanka.
It could also apply to the 2028 women's T20 World Cup, the first tournament of the next event cycle and which has now been awarded to Pakistan.
The neutral venue will be proposed by the tournament host board and will need to be approved by the ICC.
The ICC has also said it does not object to a triangular T20I tournament involving India, Pakistan and another Asian Full Member nation (or an Associate Asian nation being included to make it a quadrangular) being arranged as well, subject to such tournaments being played at a neutral venue. The idea of such a tri-nation series arose as compensation for Pakistan losing out on hosting India's matches in next year's Champions Trophy.
Hybrid model agreed for Champions Trophy and ICC events from 2024-27
Pakistan will not travel to India for the remaining ICC tournaments in the ongoing events cyclewww.espncricinfo.com
