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[Report] ICC approves the hybrid model for the Champions Trophy 2025 following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI [Post Updated #4739]

HalBass9 said:
India can refuse to invite Pakistan just as they refuse to travel to Pakistan, But India won’t because Laxmi supersede the “principles”.
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When you are inviting a family to attend, you can't refuse any member of the family because they come as a package.

But if you need to goto someone's house as per invitation given to you, then you can refuse because you are the invitee and not the one who is inviting.
 
HalBass9 said:
No! I’m all in support for India. But the selective outrage makes it seem as if it is for domestic consumption. Ban Pakistani from traveling to India and I’m all game in supporting your outrage.

But we all know that won’t happen😉
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I have mentioned it elsewhere BCCI/GoI is not as efficient/ruthless as you make it out to be. Another few years, it will be the case.
 
HalBass9 said:
Acting like colonial, not colonial, India can not ever colonize anyone. lol

India has chosen to selectively be outraged to honor its fallen citizens just as India selectively honor its citizen when the religious (Hindutva) bigots are involved, I guess selective outrage 😉.

BCCI probably not shaking their boots but BCCI would do anything for the “laxmi” over honoring whatever 100 reasons they have provided not to engage Pakistan as long as Pakistani team arrive on Indian soil to play India 😂😂

The colonial powers would never let you get there no matter how “colonial” you all try to appear 😉🤡
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I don't see anything wrong with putting money as one of the main motivating factor.

People like you may have born with silver spoon and who didn't need to struggle in life for accommodating food, shelter, clothes but I did. So as BCCI does when we go to past about the conditions of the first class cricketers from ranji. If BCCI being greedy means those first class cricketers getting proper salary, pension ; then I say welcome BCCI for such a step.
 
Itachi said:
I don't see anything wrong with putting money as one of the main motivating factor.

People like you may have born with silver spoon and who didn't need to struggle in life for accommodating food, shelter, clothes but I did. So as BCCI does when we go to past about the conditions of the first class cricketers from ranji. If BCCI being greedy means those first class cricketers getting proper salary, pension ; then I say welcome BCCI for such a step.
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We were told Indians don’t need Pakistani to pay their players 🤔
 
It’s absolutely hilarious how the all powerful BCCI, ruling cricket with their billions $, still can’t summon the courage to tell Pakistan to stay off Indian soil. And, of course, frustration is completely valid,their own government and BCCI are busy finding ways to manipulate the situation just to ensure the Pakistani team comes to India for major tournaments. Clearly, what they really need is a strong leader who’d have the guts to completely cut off any ties with those troublesome eastern neighbors.
 
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HalBass9 said:
It’s absolutely hilarious how the all powerful BCCI, ruling cricket with their billions $, still can’t summon the courage to tell Pakistan to stay off Indian soil. And, of course, Hindutva’s frustration is completely valid, after all, they’re constantly told to despise Muslims and Pakistanis, yet their own government and BCCI are busy finding ways to manipulate the situation just to ensure the Pakistani team comes to India for major tournaments. Clearly, what Hindutva really needs is a strong leader who’d have the guts to completely cut off any ties with those troublesome eastern neighbors.
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Your confused comments make sense, it's alien concept for you as to how institutions in a country can be different and operate within their own domain with autonomy.
 
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Stay on topic instead of talking about army and all here. Talk about cricket and cricket only.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
Your confused comments make sense, it's alien concept for you as to how institutions in a country can be different and operate within their own domain with autonomy.
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this is about India graciously rolling out the red carpet for Pakistani cricketers to play on Indian soil, all while reminding everyone that Pakistanis are supposedly very bad, very, very bad. Truly a masterclass in consistency.
 
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HalBass9 said:
this is about India graciously rolling out the red carpet for Pakistani cricketers to play on Indian soil, all while reminding everyone that Pakistanis are supposedly very bad, very, very bad. Truly a masterclass in consistency.
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That is only to make profit for bodies like ICC and ACC. I have explained this in details yesterday. If it was on BCCI, they will not be willing to play or host Pakistan team ever. Indian cricket is thriving without playing Pakistan in bilateral cricket and having IPL without Pakistani players for more than a decade. So there is no major need for India to play PCT.

However, ICC/ACC survive on that Ind v Pak match. Watch the interview I posted where Jarrod Kimber said the only reason tournaments like CT or Asia cup exists so that India can play Pakistan as its the cash cow for respective governing bodies. You take this game out and it will only make ICC poor which in turn will reduce the revenue share for boards like PCB, CA, SLCB, BCB etc. BCCI however will continue to flourish due to IPL.

So the red carpet you see BCCI is laying down for PCB in ICC events is to meet the demands for ICC/Broadcasters rather than their own benefit.
 
ECB chief executive Richard Gould added that he fully expected England to be taking part in the Champions Trophy as planned in February, despite the ongoing political stand off that means no tournament schedule exists just two months from the proposed start date.

The financial powerhouse of India remains unwilling to play games in Pakistan, which is fighting hard to retain its host status.

“Quite sensibly, both Pakistan and India will be given a bit of time and space to work through those options,” he said.

“We would much prefer to see a competition where all countries can compete in the same country but, if the BCCI and the Indian government are unable to change their position, then we just need to find other ways of making it happen.

“Although I haven’t got any advance notice of an impending decision, neither do I sense that a decent decision is not going to be made.”

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Richard Gould also defended pay rises for top players in the competition after criticism from the Professional Cricketers’ Association (PCA)
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Rajdeep said:
That is only to make profit for bodies like ICC and ACC. I have explained this in details yesterday. If it was on BCCI, they will not be willing to play or host Pakistan team ever. Indian cricket is thriving without playing Pakistan in bilateral cricket and having IPL without Pakistani players for more than a decade. So there is no major need for India to play PCT.

However, ICC/ACC survive on that Ind v Pak match. Watch the interview I posted where Jarrod Kimber said the only reason tournaments like CT or Asia cup exists so that India can play Pakistan as its the cash cow for respective governing bodies. You take this game out and it will only make ICC poor which in turn will reduce the revenue share for boards like PCB, CA, SLCB, BCB etc. BCCI however will continue to flourish due to IPL.

So the red carpet you see BCCI is laying down for PCB in ICC events is to meet the demands for ICC/Broadcasters rather than their own benefit.
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LOL BCCI is not favouring PCB at least like i told you yesterday that BCCI takes almost half of the 80% they Bring In . 38.5% to be precise which is fair because rest of it gets divided in other teams that play with India .


PCB might be loosing out because the match they participate in is cash cow for respective tournament and they get to keep 5.75% which is lot less as one halve of cash cow game. So PCB needs no favors nor BCCI is giving one. They are fully benefiting from the match unlike PCB

Secondly this Ind vs Pak is regular fixture since 2012. Before that PCB used to survive just fine. India did nt play Pakistan in nineties when Pak cricket was its peak. Post 2010 when Ind vs Pak game became regular fixtures , Broadcast deals were much less than its now and Pak is only team that had no India bilateral and home series also in UAE with high cost. PCB did fine and def can do fine even now. Get off this delusion
 
Rajdeep said:
That is only to make profit for bodies like ICC and ACC. I have explained this in details yesterday. If it was on BCCI, they will not be willing to play or host Pakistan team ever. Indian cricket is thriving without playing Pakistan in bilateral cricket and having IPL without Pakistani players for more than a decade. So there is no major need for India to play PCT.

However, ICC/ACC survive on that Ind v Pak match. Watch the interview I posted where Jarrod Kimber said the only reason tournaments like CT or Asia cup exists so that India can play Pakistan as its the cash cow for respective governing bodies. You take this game out and it will only make ICC poor which in turn will reduce the revenue share for boards like PCB, CA, SLCB, BCB etc. BCCI however will continue to flourish due to IPL.

So the red carpet you see BCCI is laying down for PCB in ICC events is to meet the demands for ICC/Broadcasters rather than their own benefit.
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You dropped bunch of names but at the end of the day, India will be hosting Pakistan.
 
As per reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has approved a hybrid model for the 2025 Champions Trophy, with matches to be hosted in Pakistan and Dubai following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI. Additionally, both boards have reached a consensus on the 2026 T20 World Cup, deciding that Pakistan will not travel to India for the league-stage clash against India, which will instead be held in Colombo.
 
They’ve agreed in principle. No signed document. 2026 knockouts not included means final or Semifinals ( if India vs pakistan) will held in india. :kp
 
SportsWarrior said:
I just quoted that as that was what spoken publicly by PCB. The term is not something Indian posters invented. It was actively spoken by PCB chief. BCCI has every reason not to tour any country whose board considers it an enemy country.
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You are referring to one statement made at one point, that is the extent of PCB involvement in such talk. India has actually operated this policy for 15 years.
 
Good outcome for Pakistan.

India confirmed to travel to Colombo for India v Pak match.

Pakistan got rights for another ICC tournament too.

Now if India want to break this agreement and then celebrate it in the future so be it. Can't win against people who behave this way.

For once Naqvi did well and credit to Jay Shah for brokering the deal despite it being something that GOI was against.
 
Devadwal said:
@Wasim Ghulam @DeadlyVenom

BCCI has not signed any documents yet PCB accept the offer.

Pakistan has to Play ICC world T20 2026 knockout match ( if they qualified) in india against india .

How's the Josh @Rajdeep
:kp
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So the knockouts will be in India irrespective of whether pak qualifies or not.

Was expected. Gave some face saving for pcb to play the league stage match in Columbo though I won't bet my house on it
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Good outcome for Pakistan.

India confirmed to travel to Colombo for India v Pak match.

Pakistan got rights for another ICC tournament too.

Now if India want to break this agreement and then celebrate it in the future so be it. Can't win against people who behave this way.

For once Naqvi did well and credit to Jay Shah for brokering the deal despite it being something that GOI was against.
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But Pakistan has to travel for india to Play knockout matches while india will not travel for pakistan to Play any matches.

This is india stands from starting

I thought naqvi will not surrender infront of BCCI the way Pakistan fans were talking about in this 60 Pages long thread .
:kp
 
mb3407 said:
So the knockouts will be in India irrespective of whether pak qualifies or not.

Was expected. Gave some face saving for pcb to play the league stage match in Columbo though I won't bet my house on it
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Yup that the only face saving for PCB chairman after all the fake bravado.

But nothing is signed so anything can happen because naqvi will be not PCB chairman untill 2026 World T20.and PCB policy is change based on chairman .
 
Devadwal said:
@Wasim Ghulam @DeadlyVenom

BCCI has not signed any documents yet PCB accept the offer.

Pakistan has to Play ICC world T20 2026 knockout match ( if they qualified) in india against india .

How's the Josh @Rajdeep
:kp
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😂😂😂

PCB will make India travel to colombo for group game as per your own media reports . how is that for take it or leave it? 😂😂😂

We will wait for official announcement though. CT 2029 is getting scrapped after this mess as per reports. Good news. One less tournament in India
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
😂😂😂

PCB will make India travel to colombo for group game as per your own media reports . how is that for take it or leave it? 😂😂😂

We will wait for official announcement though. CT 2029 is getting scrapped after this mess as per reports. Good news. One less tournament in India
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I thought PCB will never agree without written documents? 🤣🤣

I know it's hurt but PCB can't stand infornt of BCCI. This is the truth .
:kp
 
Devadwal said:
But Pakistan has to travel for india to Play knockout matches while india will not travel for pakistan to Play any matches.

This is india stands from starting

I thought naqvi will not surrender infront of BCCI the way Pakistan fans were talking about in this 60 Pages long thread .
:kp
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No side can win in totality. Some compromises have to be made along the way. Pakistan negotiated hard and got some outcomes rather than rolling over. Given the relative weakness of the board they have done an excellent job.

India also took a bold step by agreeing to play in Colombo v Pakistan ( which also reinforces Pakistans importance in World cricket and the importance of the match). So, they also saw the need to make some compromises.

The details of the semi finals and finals haven't been confirmed for 2026 WC yet, but if Pakistan have to travel to India for one match or two matches to get an agreement in place then so be it.
 
Devadwal said:
I thought PCB will never agree without written documents? 🤣🤣

I know it's hurt but PCB can't stand infornt of BCCI. This is the truth .
:kp
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Nothing is decided yet unless there is official announcement from Naqvi or PCB or even ICC. so we will wait

Your media is also reporting PCB to get women Tournament rights in 2027 as part of deal

Wait for announcement , dnt start jumping right away 😂
 
DeadlyVenom said:
No side can win in totality. Some compromises have to be made along the way. Pakistan negotiated hard and got some outcomes rather than rolling over. Given the relative weakness of the board they have done an excellent job.
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This negotiation would have happened a week ago but PCB demanded written documents Which was never possible in reality .
DeadlyVenom said:
India also took a bold step by agreeing to play in Colombo v Pakistan ( which also reinforces Pakistans importance in World cricket and the importance of the match). So, they also saw the need to make some compromises.
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Yes this agreement is much needed for Naqvi as some face saving after all those statements so good form BCCI . Todi izzat to rakhni padti hai
DeadlyVenom said:
The details of the semi finals and finals haven't been confirmed for 2026 WC yet, but if Pakistan have to travel to India for one match or two matches to get an agreement in place then so be it.
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Its mostly confirmed . atleast now don't be in Denial mode after these reality check pakistan fan's get
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Nothing is decided yet unless there is official announcement from Naqvi or PCB or even ICC. so we will wait

Your media is also reporting PCB to get women Tournament rights in 2027 as part of deal

Wait for announcement , dnt start jumping right away 😂
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You must be sad so ...

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DeadlyVenom said:
Good outcome for Pakistan.

India confirmed to travel to Colombo for India v Pak match.

Pakistan got rights for another ICC tournament too.

Now if India want to break this agreement and then celebrate it in the future so be it. Can't win against people who behave this way.

For once Naqvi did well and credit to Jay Shah for brokering the deal despite it being something that GOI was against.
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Nothing earth shattering about the outcome. BCCI got all their demands approved and PCB got none. All the India matches including knockouts, final will be held in Dubai if India qualifies.

Similarly the T-20 2026 WC was jointly hosted by India, Sri Lanka. Pakistan was going to play all their games in Sri Lanka anyways, in case Pakistan qualifies for the Semi's and Finals, BCCI will demand Pakistan to travel to India and ICC, other member states will back the PCB.

PCB got none of their financial demands accepted i.e. increase CT hosting fee compensation, increase in PCB's annual ICC share
 
Devadwal said:
@Wasim Ghulam @DeadlyVenom

BCCI has not signed any documents yet PCB accept the offer.

Pakistan has to Play ICC world T20 2026 knockout match ( if they qualified) in india against india .

How's the Josh @Rajdeep
:kp
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Josh is high sir but everyone already knew this.

I am typing this out loud everyday that there is absolutely no way BCCI will let go the final of an ICC tournament where they are the host for the sake of PCT. It was a laughable assumption in the first place. Also, I can guarantee you Pak team will travel to India to play India if we ended up in same group. In the WT20 2026, India will not play a single game in SL and the final will be in Ahmadabad irrespective of which ever team qualifies. Pakistan will get to play all their group games in SL, excluding the one against India. There will also one semi final in SL and if Pak qualifies, they will play there. ICC would have always done this arrangement anyway considering SL were already a co-host. This has nothing to do with the drama that PCB has caused in last few days.

As I said multiple times before, PCB has lost this case on 29th November when they agreed for hybrid model. It doesn't matter at all what they say after that. All these childish demands were like shooting in the air expecting one to hit the bird somehow but even PCB knew none of those had any realistic chance.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Wait for the reply from Rizwan. Pak are not under a meek captain now. The response will come from Rizwan and it is possible Pak won't travel to India until 2027 at least.
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Just bcoz your username is RizwanT20Champ doesn't mean you need to bring him in every post without any rhyme or reason

:rp
 
Savak said:
Nothing earth shattering about the outcome. BCCI got all their demands approved and PCB got none. All the India matches including knockouts, final will be held in Dubai if India qualifies.

Similarly the T-20 2026 WC was jointly hosted by India, Sri Lanka. Pakistan was going to play all their games in Sri Lanka anyways, in case Pakistan qualifies for the Semi's and Finals, BCCI will demand Pakistan to travel to India and ICC, other member states will back the PCB.

PCB got none of their financial demands accepted i.e. increase CT hosting fee compensation, increase in PCB's annual ICC share
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Pakistan was due to visit India for the group game in 2026. The Indian team having to board a flight to Sri Lanka is a big move.

The rest of PCB financial demands were nothing to do with the tournament. They tried to be cheeky and see what they could extract but it's unrelated to India not visiting Pakistan so I dont see how it can be seen as too much of a negative to Pakistan.
 
Let's wait till the official announcement before we start celebrating. Just last week we were hearing the hybrid model has been approved by all three parties only for the deadlock to proceed further without any official word.
 
Pakistan can come out of this agreement knowing that their value to ICC and world trophies is such that India is forced to travel to play them on neutral territory in a world cup.

Honestly this is such a big point that many will neglect in their jingoism and rush to declare victories.
 
Just for everyone's benefit and after 60 pages of debate, I want to confirm that I was with PCB on their initial stance. This is nothing but Dadagiri and bullying by BCCI. We won't travel to Pakistan but we will play them everywhere else in ICC/ACC events. Also, we will force them to travel to India. However we will not play them anywhere in bilateral cricket. I know BCCI does all of this to make revenue for ICC and other boards but still this is a hypocritical stance as far as I am concerned. We either play Pakistan everywhere/every-time or don't play them at all.

I totally understand the frustration of Pak fans. I would be mad too if my country was treated like that. That is why I wanted PCB to remain firm this time on their initial stance of no hybrid model and tested the water. They should have said no means no and let ICC figure out what they want to do next. What I didn't like is they gave up their main demand and started making silly demands like give in writing, play tri series, increase revenue etc etc. This is when they lost supporters like me who was standing with PCB initially in this saga.
 
Rajdeep said:
Josh is high sir but everyone already knew this.

I am typing this out loud everyday that there is absolutely no way BCCI will let go the final of an ICC tournament where they are the host for the sake of PCT. It was a laughable assumption in the first place. Also, I can guarantee you Pak team will travel to India to play India if we ended up in same group. In the WT20 2026, India will not play a single game in SL and the final will be in Ahmadabad irrespective of which ever team qualifies. Pakistan will get to play all their group games in SL, excluding the one against India. There will also one semi final in SL and if Pak qualifies, they will play there. ICC would have always done this arrangement anyway considering SL were already a co-host. This has nothing to do with the drama that PCB has caused in last few days.

As I said multiple times before, PCB has lost this case on 29th November when they agreed for hybrid model. It doesn't matter at all what they say after that. All these childish demands were like shooting in the air expecting one to hit the bird somehow but even PCB knew none of those had any realistic chance.
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All it really proves is that Pakistan was happy to play cricket while India wanted to play politics. In the end India is playing cricket anyway, all this was just unnecessary hoopla. If they think Pakistan is really so evil they should just refuse to play them anywhere.
 
Rajdeep said:
Josh is high sir but everyone already knew this.

I am typing this out loud everyday that there is absolutely no way BCCI will let go the final of an ICC tournament where they are the host for the sake of PCT. It was a laughable assumption in the first place. Also, I can guarantee you Pak team will travel to India to play India if we ended up in same group. In the WT20 2026, India will not play a single game in SL and the final will be in Ahmadabad irrespective of which ever team qualifies. Pakistan will get to play all their group games in SL, excluding the one against India. There will also one semi final in SL and if Pak qualifies, they will play there. ICC would have always done this arrangement anyway considering SL were already a co-host. This has nothing to do with the drama that PCB has caused in last few days.

As I said multiple times before, PCB has lost this case on 29th November when they agreed for hybrid model. It doesn't matter at all what they say after that. All these childish demands were like shooting in the air expecting one to hit the bird somehow but even PCB knew none of those had any realistic chance.
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India traveling to colombo for group is apparently part of agreement as per your own media’s reports but you are assuring it wont happen? the whole deadlock persisted because Ind Vs Pak game was in jeopardy and Broadcasters put their foot down and denied any possibility of that game not happening. How will ICC make Pakistan Travel to India for Group match when official announcement is expected tomorrow written or no written?
 
RexRex said:
agree 'in principle' ? No way is India going to play an Ind-Pak match in SL. Pakistan are being taken for a ride here. Again.
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Mohsin Naqvi be like: :inti

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FearlessRoar said:
As per reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has approved a hybrid model for the 2025 Champions Trophy, with matches to be hosted in Pakistan and Dubai following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI. Additionally, both boards have reached a consensus on the 2026 T20 World Cup, deciding that Pakistan will not travel to India for the league-stage clash against India, which will instead be held in Colombo.
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Let this be the end of it then.
 
FearlessRoar said:
As per reports:

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has approved a hybrid model for the 2025 Champions Trophy, with matches to be hosted in Pakistan and Dubai following an agreement between the PCB and BCCI. Additionally, both boards have reached a consensus on the 2026 T20 World Cup, deciding that Pakistan will not travel to India for the league-stage clash against India, which will instead be held in Colombo.
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Let this be the end of it then.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
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All it really proves is that Pakistan was happy to play cricket while India wanted to play politics. In the end India is playing cricket anyway, all this was just unnecessary hoopla. If they think Pakistan is really so evil they should just refuse to play them anywhere.
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Ha...how naive are you?

Don't want to make this very political but India has got a very strong reason not to play Pakistan. Most BJP leaders tired to stitch friendship with Pakistan but your army back stabbed every single time. Vajpyee did bus yatra when Musharraf was planning Kargil behind his back. Modi went to Shariff's daughter marriage to reignite the relation in 2015, you army reciprocated with Pathankot. Then there was also 26/11 which was perpetrated by Pakistan and also blame lies to the pathetic Indian Congress govt. So India has a very strong reason to not engage with Pakistan in sports.

However, what is hypocritical is BCCIs stance of picking and choosing. They of-course does this to make revenue for ICC so that world cricket can run smoothly as Ind v Pak white ball cricket bring in revenues. But I still feel BCCI must take one approach as far as playing with Pakistan is concerned.

Why would Pakistan not come to India? LOL. India is not hostile towards your country and neither have we ever send a group of armed terrorists to kill 130 people in Lahore and Karachi like they did in 26/11. Neither we ever hijacked a plane, kept passengers hostage for 2 days and made demands to release UN designated terrorists. The only reason Pakistan can give to not come to India to play is bcoz India is also not coming as a childish *** for tat approach. Logically they have no reason.
 
Rajdeep said:
Just bcoz your username is RizwanT20Champ doesn't mean you need to bring him in every post without any rhyme or reason

:rp
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It is not irrelevant. Strong leaders make an impact. India are forced to play in SL in their own WC in 2026. This is Rizwan's impact behind the scenes.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
India traveling to colombo for group is apparently part of agreement as per your own media’s reports but you are assuring it wont happen? the whole deadlock persisted because Ind Vs Pak game was in jeopardy and Broadcasters put their foot down and denied any possibility of that game not happening. How will ICC make Pakistan Travel to India for Group match when official announcement is expected tomorrow written or no written?
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Bro, if India travels to Colombo to play Pakistan in WT20 2026, pls change my name if I am still around in this forum that time.

When the time comes, ICC will tell PCB - "Yeh Aapke saath chota sa prank hua hai, woh raha camera...udhar dekhke thora smile kar dijiye"

:rabada2
 
Rajdeep said:
Ha...how naive are you?

Don't want to make this very political but India has got a very strong reason not to play Pakistan. Most BJP leaders tired to stitch friendship with Pakistan but your army back stabbed every single time. Vajpyee did bus yatra when Musharraf was planning Kargil behind his back. Modi went to Shariff's daughter marriage to reignite the relation in 2015, you army reciprocated with Pathankot. Then there was also 26/11 which was perpetrated by Pakistan and also blame lies to the pathetic Indian Congress govt. So India has a very strong reason to not engage with Pakistan in sports.

However, what is hypocritical is BCCIs stance of picking and choosing. They of-course does this to make revenue for ICC so that world cricket can run smoothly as Ind v Pak white ball cricket bring in revenues. But I still feel BCCI must take one approach as far as playing with Pakistan is concerned.

Why would Pakistan not come to India? LOL. India is not hostile towards your country and neither have we ever send a group of armed terrorists to kill 130 people in Lahore and Karachi like they did in 26/11. Neither we ever hijacked a plane, kept passengers hostage for 2 days and made demands to release UN designated terrorists. The only reason Pakistan can give to not come to India to play is bcoz India is also not coming as a childish *** for tat approach. Logically they have no reason.
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I think you are the naive one here. If Pakistan is really so hellbent on creating conflict with India (from which Pakistan gains nothing by the way and it actually suits your govt propaganda more), then India should not play cricket at all with Pakistan. I don't want to go into plane hijackings or Kargil wars etc because that is drudging up past history again. But really if that history was as India describes...again, why are you playing cricket against Pakistan? If you are making a song and dance about principles, then you should really act according to them.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bro, if India travels to Colombo to play Pakistan in WT20 2026, pls change my name if I am still around in this forum that time.

When the time comes, ICC will tell PCB - "Yeh Aapke saath chota sa prank hua hai, woh raha camera...udhar dekhke thora smile kar dijiye"

:rabada2
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but how will ICC make Pakistan travel for match ? if Pakistan refused without any agreement in place , there was a chance of throwing Pak out of tournament. If Pak refuses , what will ICC do? cancel the game? back to square one with broadcasters?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
but how will ICC make Pakistan travel for match ? if Pakistan refused without any agreement in place , there was a chance of throwing Pak out of tournament. If Pak refuses , what will ICC do? cancel the game? back to square one with broadcasters?
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Same way ICC made Pakistan convince for Hybrid model this time. They will give some new topi drama and PCB will agree. C'mmon buddy, I don't know how long you are following cricket but don't these things get played out every other year?
 
Naqvi has secured most favorable deal conceivable, taking into consideration the strengths and positions of the involved parties. I hope that the PTI does not carry out any more foolish protests which forces another cricket team to leave in between.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bro, if India travels to Colombo to play Pakistan in WT20 2026, pls change my name if I am still around in this forum that time.

When the time comes, ICC will tell PCB - "Yeh Aapke saath chota sa prank hua hai, woh raha camera...udhar dekhke thora smile kar dijiye"

:rabada2
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Its a shame that Indians are hoping and praying for such a scenario.
 
Rajdeep said:
Same way ICC made Pakistan convince for Hybrid model this time. They will give some new topi drama and PCB will agree. C'mmon buddy, I don't know how long you are following cricket but don't these things get played out every other year?
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all these shenanigans have expiry date 😂

But one thing we know for sure is Pak Vs Ind is non negotiable whoever the host is unlike many posters who believed BCCI can do away with it
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I think you are the naive one here. If Pakistan is really so hellbent on creating conflict with India (from which Pakistan gains nothing by the way and it actually suits your govt propaganda more), then India should not play cricket at all with Pakistan. I don't want to go into plane hijackings or Kargil wars etc because that is drudging up past history again. But really if that history was as India describes...again, why are you playing cricket against Pakistan? If you are making a song and dance about principles, then you should really act according to them.
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I agree we should either play Pakistan everywhere or not play at all and I already said BCCI looks as hypocrite while doing this. But the reason why BCCI play Pakistan in world events bcoz it brings revenue to ICC which inturn down streams into all boards including PCB. The only reason PCB gets 4th largest chunk from ICC is due to his match. Take this game out and there are more Bangladeshi sponsors than Pakistan. PCB recently was struggling to sell their home series rights of England series.

However, BCCI themselves don't need or benefit anyway by playing Pakistan as they have cash cow called IPL. So they don't bother to play Pakistan in bilateral tours. Pakistan is in no position to create conflict with India in cricket as they hugely depend on them. Why you think the demand of tri series?
 
Rajdeep said:
BCCI play Pakistan in world events bcoz it brings revenue to ICC which inturn down streams into all boards including PCB. The only reason PCB gets 4th largest chunk from ICC is due to his match. Take this game out and there are more Bangladeshi sponsors than Pakistan. PCB recently was struggling to sell their home series rights of England series.
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PCB gets 4th largest and BCCI gets Largest. Whats your point here? You make it sound like some sort of Charity by BCCI
Rajdeep said:
However, BCCI themselves don't need or benefit anyway by playing Pakistan as they have cash cow called IPL.
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They do not need to but they are still playing and Benefiting by getting largest chunk. have you ever heard ELON say Im worth 400 Billion USD , i dnt need to earn more? 😂
 
Rajdeep said:
I don't want my team to play in SL for an event hosted by my board.

Pakistan should also have refused hybrid model and playing India in Dubai.
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BCCI shouldn't have agreed in principle the .

You are talking a lot about the guts of the PCB during the negotiations, here but come on it seems you guys are content with BCCI making fake agreements and then running away at last minute.

You should demand that they have the same guts as the PCB and refused to play in Sri Lanka rather than pulling sly moves because they couldn't get what they fully wanted.
 
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Rajdeep said:
I agree we should either play Pakistan everywhere or not play at all and I already said BCCI looks as hypocrite while doing this. But the reason why BCCI play Pakistan in world events bcoz it brings revenue to ICC which inturn down streams into all boards including PCB. The only reason PCB gets 4th largest chunk from ICC is due to his match. Take this game out and there are more Bangladeshi sponsors than Pakistan. PCB recently was struggling to sell their home series rights of England series.

However, BCCI themselves don't need or benefit anyway by playing Pakistan as they have cash cow called IPL. So they don't bother to play Pakistan in bilateral tours. Pakistan is in no position to create conflict with India in cricket as they hugely depend on them. Why you think the demand of tri series?
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So India has principles but they will override those principles for money. Pretty flimsy principles then. Would have been better just to keep quiet and play the games without the hoopla. That way everyone wins and Indian reputation doesn't go down a few notches.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So India has principles but they will override those principles for money. Pretty flimsy principles then. Would have been better just to keep quiet and play the games without the hoopla. That way everyone wins and Indian reputation doesn't go down a few notches.
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their “in principle “ agreement is also flimsy and they are happy to admit that their Principles dnt mean much
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
PCB gets 4th largest and BCCI gets Largest. Whats your point here? You make it sound like some sort of Charity by BCCI


They do not need to but they are still playing and Benefiting by getting largest chunk. have you ever heard ELON say Im worth 400 Billion USD , i dnt need to earn more? 😂
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PCB gets 4th largest chunk only for Ind v Pak game. Otherwise they will be getting less than BCB who has more sponsors.

India will generate revenue even without playing Pakistan.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So India has principles but they will override those principles for money. Pretty flimsy principles then. Would have been better just to keep quiet and play the games without the hoopla. That way everyone wins and Indian reputation doesn't go down a few notches.
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Yes BCCI override those principles for money for ICC/ACC and other boards...not for themselves.
 
Rajdeep said:
PCB gets 4th largest chunk only for Ind v Pak game. Otherwise they will be getting less than BCB who has more sponsors.

India will generate revenue even without playing Pakistan.
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Still you make no point.. PCB gets 4th largest after BCCI takes largest 😂 to me it seems like better deal for BCCI than PCB and its a fact. Your argue on assumptions that BCCI can do away with it but not doing it for benefit of other boards. that would be true if they were nt taking a check for largest chunk by saying look we do not need it 😂
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Still you make no point.. PCB gets 4th largest after BCCI takes largest 😂 to me it seems like better deal for BCCI than PCB and its a fact. Your argue on assumptions that BCCI can do away with it but not doing it for benefit of other boards. that would be true if they were nt taking a check for largest chunk by saying look we do not need it 😂
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Ugh....i tried to explain multiple times in plain english but you seem to not getting it.

PCB gets 4th largest chunk from ICC only due to playing with India in ICC events. Had there been regular Ind v Pak bilateral series, PCB will get 2nd largest chunk, more than ECB and CA.

BCCI gets largest chunk despite playing Pakistan. If there were no Ind v Pak game, BCCI would still get largest chunk. CA got bankrupt after covid and it took one India series to turn their fortune.

Not sure which part of economics you are not following.
 
Hellion said:
Group stage matches in Colombo. Fair enough.

KO's should only be in India. Of course , that is only theoretical. Rizwan and co. are so rubbish they can't even dream of KO's
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In a T20 game, any side can win. Also, if a few matches get rained out, we will see strange results. Given the uncertain nature of T20 games, I would say Pakistan has very good chance of qualifying for the playoffs.
 
Let us hope all these chest thumping, and arrogance stop and we get ready to watch some good cricket in CT. I don't like the matches in UAE. Generally, they get heavily influenced by the toss. But it is what it is. Let us also hope to see some good cricket in the tournament.
 
So Bharat won't visit Pakistan, Bharat might take CT Semis and Final out of Pakistan, but Pakistan are willing to visit Bhatat for later stages of ICC tournament?

Is that right? LOL
 
If media reports are to believe

India plays all its matches plus semis and finals in Dubai for CT2025.

PCB got In Principle agreement for India vs Pak match at Colombo. No written agreement. Its not even known how the groups will be. India vs Pakistan may only be in super 6 or super 8. No one knows.

No compensation no extra money no tri series.

Basically ICC gave Naqvi a face-saving oral agreement. This is worse than that MoU document that Sethi was waving.
 
Rajdeep said:
Yes BCCI override those principles for money for ICC/ACC and other boards...not for themselves.
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I'm sure even you don't believe that even as you are typing it out. But if it makes you feel better about yourself as an Indian then knock yourself out.

The truth is, cricket is the only arena where India dominates and they use that as political leverage. Cricket is a very small sport in worldwide context so other boards have to bite their lips and try to accomodate India's preposterous grandstanding because the money comes from India's fanbase. Not because they respect India's position or their perplexing hypocrisy when it comes to playing Pakistan.
 
Hikaru said:
So Bharat won't visit Pakistan, Bharat might take CT Semis and Final out of Pakistan, but Pakistan are willing to visit Bhatat for later stages of ICC tournament?

Is that right? LOL
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A different way of looking at it is:

CT25: India is making Pakistan to travel to Dubai for its group encounter

WC26: Pakistan will make India to travel to Columbo for its group encounter

* If quality

CT25: India will play their semifinal in UAE

WC26: Pakistan will play their semifinal in Sri Lanka

CT25: Final in Dubai

WC26: Final in India

So at best Pakistan will play ONE game in India but it will be the Final. Don't think anyone would be bothered about it especially if they win the title on Indian soil.
 
Giroux28 said:
A different way of looking at it is:

CT25: India is making Pakistan to travel to Dubai for its group encounter

WC26: Pakistan will make India to travel to Columbo for its group encounter

* If quality

CT25: India will play their semifinal in UAE

WC26: Pakistan will play their semifinal in Sri Lanka

CT25: Final in Dubai

WC26: Final in India

So at best Pakistan will play ONE game in India but it will be the Final. Don't think anyone would be bothered about it especially if they win the title on Indian soil.
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One semi final was always in SL. Nothing Pakistan specific here.

WC 26: There's no written guarantee. There's no guarantee that India Pakistan will be in the same group. They may meet in Super 8s and that match will be in India.

This is a face saver given to Naqvi. Nothing else.
 
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