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[Reports] Gary Kirsten and Andy Flower being considered for Pakistan Head Coach role
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It was Moin Khan not Abdul Razzaq.
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As far as I know, the news about Misbah’s impending removal and the approaches to Gary Kirsten and Andy Flower has been confirmed by two sources within the PCB.
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Gary Kirsten if he agrees, should get the job no question. I find it very difficult to believe he will take the job though.
Grant, rather not, he had a lot of time as a batting coach and it didn't really work out. He might be ok as a head coach, but would rather move on.
If we can't get Gary Kirsten or any other high performing foreign coach (which I feel is unlikely, even Mickey only came because his last few jobs didn't work out) I'd go with whoever the best domestic coach is in Pakistan. And give him full authority on squad and team selection. He might be able to better identify talent, work with the squad better, no language barrier and might lead to the way to better and more hard working coaches in the future if they know one day it could result in them coaching the Pak side.
I think it's very unfair Pak domestic coaches don't get a chance at head coach unless they are famous Pak players like Waqar Younis, Misbah etc. I mean look at our last few foreign coaches, Mickey hasn't played international cricket at all, Dav Whatmore only a few games, even Bob Woolmer only played 25 international games. I mean look at England their coaches weren't great players or even great foeign coaches and England have done well. The man who coaches New Zealand too, Stead, isn't a great player or famous coach either, just a coach from New Zealand.
Grant, rather not, he had a lot of time as a batting coach and it didn't really work out. He might be ok as a head coach, but would rather move on.
If we can't get Gary Kirsten or any other high performing foreign coach (which I feel is unlikely, even Mickey only came because his last few jobs didn't work out) I'd go with whoever the best domestic coach is in Pakistan. And give him full authority on squad and team selection. He might be able to better identify talent, work with the squad better, no language barrier and might lead to the way to better and more hard working coaches in the future if they know one day it could result in them coaching the Pak side.
I think it's very unfair Pak domestic coaches don't get a chance at head coach unless they are famous Pak players like Waqar Younis, Misbah etc. I mean look at our last few foreign coaches, Mickey hasn't played international cricket at all, Dav Whatmore only a few games, even Bob Woolmer only played 25 international games. I mean look at England their coaches weren't great players or even great foeign coaches and England have done well. The man who coaches New Zealand too, Stead, isn't a great player or famous coach either, just a coach from New Zealand.
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I would appoint Younis Khan as the interim head coach. If PCB can rope in Andy flower, MYK should continue as batting coach and also be the assistant to Andy flower to learn from him.
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Grant flower already flopped as batting coach for team so being looked at as head coach 
Kirtsen would be a good option but cant see it happening.
Kirtsen would be a good option but cant see it happening.
Great idea!!!! Both Misbah and Waqar need to be sacked. Younis Khan should be interim coach. Not sure what's in PCB mind. I hope they are not giving Misbah another chance to prove.
Grant flower already flopped as batting coach for team so being looked at as head coach
Kirtsen would be a good option but cant see it happening.
Grant is SL's batting coach at the moment. Its Andy Flower.
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I think an interim head coach can be appointed, PCB has quite a few options at on their payroll at different positions with more coaching experience than Misbah. PCB cant afford another poor performance now that too at home when even morale of the head coach will be down.
Yea I actually think we should have a sports psychologist with the team to be honest. And definitely a good motivator as a coach is important.
Agreed with Waqar needing to be shown the door.
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a new coach isnt enough. I'm all for Andy coming in. But how do we change the mediocre culture that produces bakwaas lazy players like Haris sohail and Azam Khan?
If Iw ere interviewing the coach I would ask them to present to me their vision of how they will turn this mediocre setup and team into a competitive hard to beat , fighting outfit in 3 years. And world beaters in 6.
End of. If you cant present that and you dont have a plan we may aswell keep the dudoos in charge.
Also i would have a word with people like Haris sohail and simply tell him, if you continue like this im gonna make sure you never ever lift a bat ever again!!
If Iw ere interviewing the coach I would ask them to present to me their vision of how they will turn this mediocre setup and team into a competitive hard to beat , fighting outfit in 3 years. And world beaters in 6.
End of. If you cant present that and you dont have a plan we may aswell keep the dudoos in charge.
Also i would have a word with people like Haris sohail and simply tell him, if you continue like this im gonna make sure you never ever lift a bat ever again!!
Lol abother haris hater lets not forget haris is our second best bat after babar in odis. Lets just rewind to the world cup.
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This is a pretty standard and correct way to move forward. The new coach must have a clear cut plan as to EXACTLY what is he going to do to make a difference. Mere verbal assurances won't do.
I think the problem is, PCB admins don't exactly know what is the problem with our players so they are unable to ask the coach to tell us how to fix it?
The coach must know what's the root cause, otherwise, if you don't know the root cause, you can only put a bandage after bandage on the wound till it all starts to come off one day, and the puss oozes out.
And this is exactly what PCB has been doing for years now. They simply don't know EXACTLY what's the root cause, so they can't fix it. They are running the board like headless chickens running around in panic and don't know what's going on, what's the issue and how to fix it.
And as far as Harris goes... I have said this before, he should be locked up in a prison facility and should be made to workout aggressively including stamina and strength building AND losing weight. He should be given ONE meal a day (low calorie) and lots of liquids. His goal should be to lose 50 pounds and be able to run for 5 miles without taking a stop.
This is THE ONLY way he will get fit. Azam Khan should join him too if he wants to up his game.
I do think PCB is looking for options now - it started with 0-3 against a compromised SRL team, and has come down to that show at Hagley, therefore PCB has to react. Though, MisQar’s premature exit might wound PCB’s coffer deep...
And, I’m sure this time hiring a foreign coach should be less “criticised” by the elites of PAK cricket - the former players and board directors, after the show of deshi greats. Wasim Khan has got this one covered - if PCB can appoint a top pro as head coach - I’m sure this time he won’t be called someone walking with nose in grass.
The biggest challenge could be to find the right candidate. Top coaches don’t come cheap and these days they are earning plenty for 6-10 weeks vacations from PLs & SLs - that’s money without headache, extra rider is the glamour in media presence and leisure at five star hotels. The job of a national coach is lot, lot tougher - it comes with the burden of the expectations of a nation, it demands lots of dedication to form a strategy, plan, then find right players to fit in and finally to groom the players not that system. That’s almost a 24/7 job for all year round.
Also, international cricket comes with lot more diversified challenges- three different formats, vast difference in comfort zones between home and away; the difference between opponents.... For any PL/SL tournament, you know the opponents players as most of them are know, often established internationals, but for National job one has to remain updated about players they are playing against. The biggest challenge is in franchise cricket, coach is part of scouting - he can hire players of his choice within the budget or cap. The coach has to be aligned with the cricket philosophy of the country as well - otherwise it can end up like Mickey Arthur picking three pacers for UAE Test... Finally, in National coaching jobs, head coach has to make lots of compromises - gone are the days of Whatmore at SLCB or BCB, in Franchise cricket, the duration & scope is too narrow for feeling the heat of such compromises.
Bottom line is - it’s not going to be easy for PCB to hire a top pro, even if I don’t consider that it comes with added challenge of shifting family to Pakistan for at least 300 days a year. Finding the right person, aligned with PAK cricket within so many limitations is not going to be easy, neither cheap and if PCB makes another mistake, it’ll only furnish the reputation of foreign coaches in PAK cricket fraternity. In that regard, GK is indeed a top choice - but I’m not sure if he is available. BCB gave him almost blank cheque before & after Rhodes, but the guy didn’t agree to shift to Bangladesh; he is still working as a remote consultant for BCB but that’s far from a coaching job - he is a perfect fit for PAK, a hardworking former batsman with lots of experience in Asian conditions both as player & coach. A Flower, I’m not sure if his methods can work in PAK - extremely data driven task master with a strong uncompromising character, his appointment might back fire.
Unless they find the perfect match from abroad, I would like to stick with MisQar - you never know who are following their trail!!!!!!
And, I’m sure this time hiring a foreign coach should be less “criticised” by the elites of PAK cricket - the former players and board directors, after the show of deshi greats. Wasim Khan has got this one covered - if PCB can appoint a top pro as head coach - I’m sure this time he won’t be called someone walking with nose in grass.
The biggest challenge could be to find the right candidate. Top coaches don’t come cheap and these days they are earning plenty for 6-10 weeks vacations from PLs & SLs - that’s money without headache, extra rider is the glamour in media presence and leisure at five star hotels. The job of a national coach is lot, lot tougher - it comes with the burden of the expectations of a nation, it demands lots of dedication to form a strategy, plan, then find right players to fit in and finally to groom the players not that system. That’s almost a 24/7 job for all year round.
Also, international cricket comes with lot more diversified challenges- three different formats, vast difference in comfort zones between home and away; the difference between opponents.... For any PL/SL tournament, you know the opponents players as most of them are know, often established internationals, but for National job one has to remain updated about players they are playing against. The biggest challenge is in franchise cricket, coach is part of scouting - he can hire players of his choice within the budget or cap. The coach has to be aligned with the cricket philosophy of the country as well - otherwise it can end up like Mickey Arthur picking three pacers for UAE Test... Finally, in National coaching jobs, head coach has to make lots of compromises - gone are the days of Whatmore at SLCB or BCB, in Franchise cricket, the duration & scope is too narrow for feeling the heat of such compromises.
Bottom line is - it’s not going to be easy for PCB to hire a top pro, even if I don’t consider that it comes with added challenge of shifting family to Pakistan for at least 300 days a year. Finding the right person, aligned with PAK cricket within so many limitations is not going to be easy, neither cheap and if PCB makes another mistake, it’ll only furnish the reputation of foreign coaches in PAK cricket fraternity. In that regard, GK is indeed a top choice - but I’m not sure if he is available. BCB gave him almost blank cheque before & after Rhodes, but the guy didn’t agree to shift to Bangladesh; he is still working as a remote consultant for BCB but that’s far from a coaching job - he is a perfect fit for PAK, a hardworking former batsman with lots of experience in Asian conditions both as player & coach. A Flower, I’m not sure if his methods can work in PAK - extremely data driven task master with a strong uncompromising character, his appointment might back fire.
Unless they find the perfect match from abroad, I would like to stick with MisQar - you never know who are following their trail!!!!!!
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If they don't find the perfect match, how about giving dual role to Mohammad Wasim ?
Good shout.
Not a bad idea, but Misbah made a mess of the duel role concept- might not be sold this time. Wasim in duel role with three qualified specialist coaches (must be foreign) and a group of dedicated (& passionate) scouts watching domestic games can work better.
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I’m really baffled at the number of people who have called for Younis Khan to be head coach... like I am baffled. Do we have collective amnesia about his antics and propensity for meltfowns? Are people impressed my his note book?
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Well if people can advocate for Misbah and Waqar (for 15th time) then its not surprising that some Younis fans are out there.
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Grant flower already flopped as batting coach for team so being looked at as head coach
Kirtsen would be a good option but cant see it happening.
Its Andy Flower.
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So it essentially comes down to nabbing the right coach who is going to actually improve us. Or sticking with MisQar as the financial loss doesn't outweigh the gamble of picking someone like Andy Flower for a job which probably won't suit him.
It's so hard to get the best coaches now. Too many cushy 10 week jobs out there. And Pakistan did not covert themselves in glory with how they dismissed Arthur in such a corrupt fashion. Who will want to join us after that.
It means accepting the 7th place ranking will be ours for the time being but maybe that's just where Pakistan are now.
I think, eventually PAK has to move to domestic resources and for that the coaching quality has to improve. Best way to do that is making potential local coaches work as deputy of established & reputed foreign pros - BCCI actually moved that way.
If you look at soccer, in over 100 years of national team head coach regime, among the established soccer nations (roughly 10 of the elites - France, England, Germany, Italy, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay- you can add Portugal & Holland with them) only once, one country hired a foreign coach - Sven Goran Eriksen. That’s because, national coach should be aware of the country, people and the philosophy- it’s difficult for a foreigner to come in a new country and get integrated into the system from 3-4 years stay. For south Asian, Muslim dominated countries, its even tougher - PAK comes with added challenge of delusional fans, arrogant board/former players and a declining cricket legacy.
If the process is there and a fair system exists, eventually there will be individuals who’ll raise above the bar and challenge status co - from there improvement comes. Tundlers like Bharat Arun or TA Shekhar emerged as fast bowling coach from that process - its human nature, not born right.
Accepting 7th ranking is a reality - I have learned to accept my Canadian life from the position of a director in an MNC starting at the age of 29; it’s a hygiene factor - you learn to manage your expectations with ground reality. 35 years back, if there was pakpassion and you could have written that the next generation of Hasan Sardars & Shahbaz Ahmeds will be failing to make WC or Olympics to the likes of Canada, Malaysia or Belgium .... your would have suffered bigger laughter - but PP has bilkul learned to digest that..... it can happen to cricket also, no worries.
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It makes no sense from any angle. Nothing to do with strong ties to India.
Financial : He can earn significantly more than what Pakistan will offer through IPL and franchise cricket. Also even now Pakistan coaches are not paid in parity with top countries
Cricket: As Indian coach he had Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Bhajji, Zaheer etc. South Africa he had Smith, Boucher, Kallis, AB De Villiers, Steyn, Morkel etc. Who will he get with us?
Personal: He’s already said he’s not interested in international coaching due to time commitments and travel.
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Our domestic coaches are also need coaching. We need to introduce latest training techniques and new training academies.
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Biggest mistake ever was to remove mickey arthur. Good luck finding a committed coach like him. Pakistan cricket will continue to be a circus unless we find someone good and stick with them.
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Won't be able to rope in Gary Kirsten.
Andy Flower is a disciplinarian (something our team desperately needs) and a great option. If he signs on, hopefully he can bring his whole team of assistant coaches.
Steve Rhodes, Simon Katich and Graham Ford should be considered too.
Andy Flower is a disciplinarian (something our team desperately needs) and a great option. If he signs on, hopefully he can bring his whole team of assistant coaches.
Steve Rhodes, Simon Katich and Graham Ford should be considered too.
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I have been hearing about PCB's financial troubles for well over a decade now yet somehow they always seem to be able to afford expensive foreign coaches. They are actually pretty well off compared to some of the other boards.
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I cant remember the last time i heard about PCB's financial troubles. Serious question but are you sure they don't only exist in Indian media?
Tbh one thing you can't say about the PCB is that they have been shy of opening the chequebook lately. We've seen money thrown all over the place from QeA, 'high performance' recruitment, PSL, security for touring teams etc. they aren't shy to spend.
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I agree. He was far from perfect but there was definitely some progress under his wing. If he was given another 2 years it's hard to imagine him doing worse but i guess we'll never know now.
Misbah has undone all of that progress and then some.
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Heres the thing, PCB’s financial troubles are only heard from Press Trust of India..
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Andy Flower turned England into a top test team, he should get the job. He might not be the right culture fit and might even lead to more turmoil however we're already at rock bottom and the only way is up.
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honestly speaking you're the first person mentioning the financial issues of PCB
I don't hear a lot about this issue unless it has to do with a series against India
But I think it's more of a talking point in thier negotiation tactics
Than a real issue
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Pakistan actually needs better domestic coaches. Only then a national coach can do better.
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Are you kidding me. India pays Shastri $1.17 million per year in addition to other perks, benefits. Cricket Australia pays Langer $600,000 and England pays its coach $550,000 per year. Pakistan was paying Mickey Arthur $240,000 per year and according to Cricinfo, it was even lower than what Bangladesh and Sri Lanka were paying their coaches.
If Pakistan wants to attract the very best, they will need to pay top dollar i.e. atleast $600,000 or greater. Many applicants sent initial inquiries to the PCB inquiring about the pay, perks, allowances, benefits and when the PCB responding with the actual figures, they never contacted the PCB again.
Lance Klusenar applied to Afghanistan's coaching role but was never interested in applying with the PCB. Steve Rixon's episode hurt PCB's reputation badly.
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The fans and board are super impatient to blame any one. It is very difficult to survive for anyone.
Having said that from day one u know Misbah is a Misbah, he can’t deliver. Such a timid, stubborn and hesitant person to adapt to any change. He can’t build a team for sure , which he tried for 5 years in his captaincy period and failed along with Misbah, when leaving he suggested Azhar Ali as the next captain.
All know what happened after that, also when he is in, he quickly gave the test captinacy to Failing Azhar again which was ridiculous and suffered for it
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Agree that he was short tempered during his playing days. But since he became the national batting coach , he looked different to me. He was able to work and make changes for Azhar within 1 series. Previously under Grant during the post MiSYOU times, Azhar became a walking wicket in SENA tours and nothing was done to fix until Younis came and did tweak his stance and falling over the shot.
Even in his playing days, not just me , everyone liked his commitment, dedication at work. Good student of the game. He might surprise everyone if chosen as head coach with his work and end results.
There's no financial trouble for PCB, they have spent massive amounts of money on average players so that they can tour Pakistan for 5 days to 1 week, which paved the way for the return of international cricket.
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The current management setup is not going to take Pak cricket apart from down. Misbah started badly and became worse. Possibly the worst appointment ever. An experienced coach with a vision to lift the team’s performances. Preferably a foreign coach with maybe a local as assistant but not Waqar. Shoaib Akhtar has been throwing his name in but is a non serious candidate, just looking for attention for his you tube channel. Andy Flower Kirsten or there a number of middle ranking aussies who could take up the post.
Just notice that Misbah and Waqar have still more than 15 months to go to finish the contract. Its unlikely PCB will let go huge amount of money that early. Unless miracle happen they are not going anywhere in 2021 at least. Both Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are there to help them.
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I think they will plan to put them in NCA or HPC or even coach for Nothern since Wasim left the place vacant.
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It’s no longer vacant. Note Mohammad Masroor, one of the most prolific and top tier domestic coaches available in Pakistan. He’s been promoted to the Northern Head Coach position in Wasim’s absence (was previously assistant coach) and I expect him to retain it.
Kirsten, Flower, or anyone else cannot make Pakistan a top Test team at the moment, as the players that are available and coming through are simply not good enough.
They may improve the white-ball teams a little, but don't hold your breath for any miracles.
They may improve the white-ball teams a little, but don't hold your breath for any miracles.
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Take a best coach in the world and assign him China Cricket team , he won't be able to do anything.
The upcoming players quality is regressing at an alarming rate and it is evident from last few Under 19 worldcups.
The upcoming players quality is regressing at an alarming rate and it is evident from last few Under 19 worldcups.
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They can however atleast put a cricket infrastructure, coaching mechanisms in place which will give returns in the long run
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Pakistan should approach Tom Moody / Mahela Jayawardhane / Jasson Gillespie / Ray Jennings / Stephen Fleming / Naseer Hussain / Phil Simmons etc as coach
The point is, coaches can fine-tune and improve some aspects of a cricketer's game, but they can't make average players into world-beaters.
And Pakistan at the moment has far too many average players who the coaches cannot perform miracles with.
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I think it works both ways. You’re right that there are many average cricketers that you can’t perform miracles with. However, an occasional player comes through who looks good and you need to have a good structure in place to take care of them.
Look how Naseem’s bowling was tinkered with, or how Abdullah, a potential longer formats player, was made to miss a full season of first class cricket for 3 T20Is after which he has been dropped even from the Pakistan A team.
So the converse holds true as well: average coaches can make decent prospects go backwards.
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Coaching at an International level is just about making an strategy assessing opposing team weakness and making a detailed gameplan for next match/series and ironing out minor glitches in player's weaknesses , he is not supposed to teach players how to bat and bowl at international level.
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No denying that but, were the things you have pointed being done in last 1.5 years? Abbas going over the wicket to Warner in Aus when he was coming off a mental block in Ashes against Broad from around the wicket shows no homework and planning, same was the case with loosing the match in Manchester by feeding fuller lengths balls to Woakes and not testing him with the short balls straight away. These are just to give couple of examples.
Things you have mentioned which coach is supposed to do are really important in modern day international cricket. Even 11 world class players on the ground without any plan, direction or homework would struggle more often than not let alone Pak. No one is expecting Pak to suddenly become a world beater under a different coach but that is no excuse for people not doing their jobs properly.
Nobody is asking coaches to teach players the basics however, the jobs which they are supposed to do wasnt on display as well. However, when you select players after 3-4 FC matches you might need to teach them basics as well but thats another discussion.
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Shoaib Akhtar has claimed on a TV program that Andy Flower is finalized but, wants to join after PSL as he is the head coach of Multan Sultans and if he takes the Pak head coach role now he will have to forgo Multan Sultans head coach position for the coming season.
Thats interesting.
Thats interesting.
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Not a very realistic example is it?
The players are average (that's the umpteenth time I've read this in the last two days) we all know that, it's not earth shattering news!
But these players are not just players that have never picked up a bat or a ball before. Most of the batsmen have test centuries to their name - no doubt some of them need to be removed. The bowling is inexperienced yes, and needs a few changes too, but if you select a decent attack there is something to work with.
Apart from the lack of talent (yes we've acknowledged that again!), the team has a number of problems from a strategic and mental perspective. It is quite clear that Misbah and Waqar have failed in these respects. So yes, a new coach can make improvements and work forward from there.
He will not make us one of the best sides in the world (lack of talent acknowledged again!), but we have to seek improvement and not just give up.
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I'm genuinely curious here. Andy Flower is data driven coach. Mohammad Wasim, the new chief selector, may rely on data, but also takes decisions based on his own qualitative decision making. Will be interesting to see if it'll be a styles clash between the two men or if they'll be able to work together well.
For example, whilst a Saud Shakeel didn't score many first innings runs in the QEA, he still had a decent average. In Flower's data led approach, Saud may be a bad selection for the test squad, as his model might say that if you're not setting up the game in the first innings, no point in picking you. But from Mohammad Wasim's qualitative approach, he may believe that Saud could improve with better coaching at National team level and thus is worth picking, as an investment. It's interesting how the two differing approaches between the two men will make them gel (if at all).
It'll be important that Flower bring a softer touch to coaching this team compared to his England tenure. Whilst Flower won't have any KP type personalities in the team, he won't have many (any) public school boy types like Strauss and Cook either, who take instruction well. Most importantly, he'll have to create an environment where the players can play with freedom, with the hand brake off. InshAllah I hope it works.
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but they can make the team resilient. Average teams can be made hard to beat by good coaches. We have some good players in the side that a team can be built around. A good coach can do this. Its also important to note the mental aspect of test cricket too.
Overall a good coach should be given five years with a test team. That will give domestic players enough of a chance to be noticed and we may get some better players into the team.
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Andy Flower would be a coup but after seeing how he ran that England team off a cliff, Pakistan should expect both extremes with him.
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Awful analogy. Pakistan aren't good at cricket but they're not anywhere near as bad as Nepal let alone China.
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Yeah, his logic is really poor. I mean look at Multan, it wasnt a great team on paper but still did well.
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Lol, it will be perfect Karma
Pakistan could do with a top notch taskmaster like Flower - maintaining conditioning and discipline would be of value to our players, might seem a low bar but it’s the truth.
Which of our current players, across formats, look to have proven, high level conditioning - Babar, Shaheen, Rizwan, Shadab, Faheem?
Which of our current players, across formats, look to have proven, high level conditioning - Babar, Shaheen, Rizwan, Shadab, Faheem?
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A good coach can make a team slightly better.
An average coach can make a team slightly worse.
A poor coach can make the team a lot worse.
In my opinion, Misbah and Waqar fall somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd category if not the 3rd category.
I am not sure if they have the qualifications to be a coach. Being a good player is fine, but that can't be the sole criterion for being a coach for a country. I was surprised that PCB made statements about Misbah getting a chance to learn coaching by doing the same in PCL. Everyone learns in the job, but you don't put someone starting from scratch as an international team coach.
The last round of fake advertisement will make it harder to attract any new name. PCB may have a good chance in getting Flower, but GK is not really a prospect for various reasons.
I don't expect world-beating results from a new coach, but there is no point in sticking with Misbah/Waqar. Trying to improve may not produce results, but you still have to try.
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I've been looking out for any sort of denial from Flower but since that hasn't happened in the last 24 hours, I am leaning towards believing Shoaib Akhtar that this news could be true.
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Tbh I would take anything Shoaib Akhtar says with a grain of salt.
He isn't exactly someone with alot of credibility.
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Theoretically correct but not always apply to Pakistan cricket.
The reason is, our domestic cricket standard is so poor and third class in quality that it simply does not produce international players (one good player produced by this chaotic system every decade is our average), so we definetly need a coach who could provide help in transitioning the young player into the international arena.
Take the example of Wasim and Waqar, they didn't have the foggiest of ideas of reverse swing in their domestic careers.
Our batting is even worse; kids learn how to play cricket with tape ball for years. The wrong batting technique and wrong batting temperament gets hardwired into their DNA, right from the beginning.
These kids have to go to a complete make over when they start playing with hard ball. We definitely need great coaching on domestic and jr. level but we simply don't have that culture, that atmosphere and perhaps that passion either so we don't really a great focus on hardball on Jr. level.
Tape ball cricket is fun, cheap, and easily accessible, so everyone keeps on playing with it.
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The PCB and Flower might still be having on going negotiations and until things are finalized, it is unprofessional to talk about these things in public for both parties.
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G Kirsten happy to coach some random side in the hundred but isn’t available for an international stint as head coach of Pakistan???
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Much less stress, easy money and good exposure. Not everyone wants to be in the pressure cooker.
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The BCCI/KGB probably rang him up and told him it won't be good for him if he signs with Pakistan.
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I think Kirsten would be rather expensive for PCB, wouldnt he? (compared to Misbah /Waqar anyway)
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Why would anyone need such a high profile coach for a 100 ball game is beyond me.
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What PCB did to Mickey and Sarfaraz (just to favor Misbah) is very well documented!!
And be it Andy /Gary or anyone else , unless they have some compulsion (to revive their coaching career , what Mickey did), they will not come.. There are better opportunities outside PCB with more fun, easy $$, no obligations, and not to do deal with unprofessional PCB hierarchies
Pakistan cricket should suffer under Misbah
-- Life is all about decisions we make, and PCB chose Misbah, so we will bear the consequences
And be it Andy /Gary or anyone else , unless they have some compulsion (to revive their coaching career , what Mickey did), they will not come.. There are better opportunities outside PCB with more fun, easy $$, no obligations, and not to do deal with unprofessional PCB hierarchies
Pakistan cricket should suffer under Misbah
-- Life is all about decisions we make, and PCB chose Misbah, so we will bear the consequences
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