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Rishabh Pant (101) puts India in control, close Day 2 on 294/7 with lead of 89 runs over England

Kohli and Pujara are past their best and this has exposed the likes of Rahane. Also the 5 bowler theory for all conditions is nonsense. 5th bowler has barely been used and adds little value with the bat either.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Kohli and Pujara are past their best and this has exposed the likes of Rahane. Also the 5 bowler theory for all conditions is nonsense. 5th bowler has barely been used and adds little value with the bat either.
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4-bowler-theory in all conditions only works when they are all either world-class or close to that level.
 
Forget what happened to Kohli’s form, I want to know where did Stokes get his hair transplant from?
 
Devadwal said:
These home umpire give marginal call In favour of England .gill & Rohit dismissal are perfect example
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That's what the cunning English media and support have mastered over the years. Make a hue and cry about small things and make fair-minded umpires lean in their favour for marginal calls.
 
Oligochaetes said:
Rahane... surely his spot should come under scrutiny.. Or is he immune?
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Pujara and Rahane have officially become Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq of India. They are hanging on past performances and a good inning here and there to save their place in the team. And the way Kohli has been playing lately his test average is going to go below 50 pretty soon. This will just show how good Sachin was at maintaining his average of above 50 for 200 tests. :inti
 
ManFan said:
4-bowler-theory in all conditions only works when they are all either world-class or close to that level.
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Our bowlers may not be ATG but we have won tests abroad even with 4 lesser bowlers and 7 batsmen. Especially at home, when we play 2 spinners, there's no need for the extra bowler.
 
Good bouncer from Stokes.

This is the key hour. I think if India can hang in, this thin England attack will get tired.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Kohli and Pujara are past their best and this has exposed the likes of Rahane. Also the 5 bowler theory for all conditions is nonsense. 5th bowler has barely been used and adds little value with the bat either.
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Agree completely with you. I think upcoming England tour will end many careers. :inti
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Our bowlers may not be ATG but we have won tests abroad even with 4 lesser bowlers and 7 batsmen. Especially at home, when we play 2 spinners, there's no need for the extra bowler.
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Trust me, your bowlers only have competition with AUS right now.

And IND is ahead as of now.
 
Robert said:
Orthodox swing is not related to the pitch. Unless a pitch is watered to stop it cracking and you get a hot morning.
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Yes. Not aware of the watering thing, though.

But the principle of my post is:
If we had an Indian pitch with dangerous cracks on it that English bowlers were able to exploit and make the ball jag around, the quoted poster would call it a good pitch :rabada2
 
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pillionrider said:
That's what the cunning English media and support have mastered over the years. Make a hue and cry about small things and make fair-minded umpires lean in their favour for marginal calls.
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Yeah, Vaughan’s tweets are being displayed on the big screen and the entire Barmy Army are in full affect in the stadium, singing Jerusalem and blowing trumpets. No umpire could stand up to that.
 
ManFan said:
Forget what happened to Kohli’s form, I want to know where did Stokes get his hair transplant from?
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Was he ever going bald. Didn't notice.

Seems proud of his long locks now, shaking it about on every occasion. But he's cool and a fantastic player. So it's ok :afridi1
 
Robert said:
Yeah, Vaughan’s tweets are being displayed on the big screen and the entire Barmy Army are in full affect in the stadium, singing Jerusalem and blowing trumpets. No umpire could stand up to that.
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There's a reason why the phrase the "whinging pom" exists :rabada2
 
Indian commentators are so boring. I wish there was an option to turn the commentary off. Even Pant behind the wickets is more entertaining than these commentators lol. :inti
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Kohli and Pujara are past their best and this has exposed the likes of Rahane. Also the 5 bowler theory for all conditions is nonsense. 5th bowler has barely been used and adds little value with the bat either.
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Agree with this. Playing 5 bowlers at all places is idiotic. Its our sorry batting which needs to be beefed up, not the bowling!
 
England need 2 more quick wickets here or i can see there chances of trying to force a miracle win later in game as gone.
 
Eng can take a lead here. India will bat last so Eng will be in driving seat.
 
We haven't batted well even once during this series. We did score 300+ in 1st innings in 1st test at Chennai but that total was way below par.
 
Rajdeep said:
If we lose this...it will be another ICC semi final defeat as its a virtual semi to reach WTC finals.
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Probably that's the reason they are losing (probably) this test match! If it was a normal bilateral test match, I think they would have been in good position!
 
Pant has played well so far. The longer he bats, runs will come eventually for him.
 
Sundar has to play his primary role well here. A repeat of his first innings heroics in Chennai test will do well here.
 
India’s forts target should be to get past England’s first innings total. You don’t want to be behind here.
 
Shocking umpire didnt give that out in 1st place.
 
MP2011 said:
Just like Rohit was out. You win some, you lose some.
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What? It hit the pad and would have gone on to hit the stumps. It was out. What’s the point of DRS if it upholds wrong decisions?
 
Robert said:
What? It hit the pad and would have gone on to hit the stumps. It was out. What’s the point of DRS if it upholds wrong decisions?
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The ball on which Rohit got dismissed too was just clipping the bails, just like in this instance. Both were umpires' calls.

So there you go.
 
MP2011 said:
The ball on which Rohit got dismissed too was just clipping the bails, just like in this instance. Both were umpires' calls.

So there you go.
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Should both be out IMO. Anything that hits the stumps should be gone
 
Robert said:
What? It hit the pad and would have gone on to hit the stumps. It was out. What’s the point of DRS if it upholds wrong decisions?
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In theory yes...but that is not the rule. Since the ball tracking is an assumption, umpires call is taken into account for iffy chances. Just 10 mins ago you were enjoying Rohit's wicket with that rule and now you want to change the same rule bcoz if didnt go your way?
 
MP2011 said:
The ball on which Rohit got dismissed too was just clipping the bails, just like in this instance. Both were umpires' calls.

So there you go.
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Rohit has a problem with LBWs. It happens with all good stroke makers.

Although, you do realize this was a spinner and a very short batsman getting hit right in front...

In any case, next session could be crucial to this whole wtc.
 
MP2011 said:
The ball on which Rohit got dismissed too was just clipping the bails, just like in this instance. Both were umpires' calls.

So there you go.
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Both should be given out by the third ump then. The whole point of DRS is to correct wrong decisions by the on field umps, not confirm them.
 
therealAB said:
Should both be out IMO. Anything that hits the stumps should be gone
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But that's now how cricket functions! Also if that's the case, most of the batsmen will be out LBW, without scoring many.

I know where you're coming from though. Warne is a big supporter of giving out anything when ball touches the stumps.
 
Rajdeep said:
In theory yes...but that is not the rule. Since the ball tracking is an assumption, umpires call is taken into account for iffy chances. Just 10 mins ago you were enjoying Rohit's wicket with that rule and now you want to change the same rule bcoz if didnt go your way?
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It’s not about “my way”, it’s about getting decisions right. Else scrap DRS altogether. The third ump should be overriding wrong decisions on review.
 
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Rajdeep said:
Umpiring being brilliant this game...it looked not out from naked eye. Looks like you are hearing umpires call for first time :inti
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My point was the on field umpire should have given it out in 1st place. I understand the umpires call rule. But the onfield umpire is saving his career and indias shot at WTC. Am sure he will get indias highest recognition after the game.
 
Robert said:
Both should be given out by the third ump then. The whole point of DRS is to correct wrong decisions by the on field umps, not confirm them.
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How do you know that it was a wrong decision by the umpire if it was so close to getting an umpire's call?

Ball tracking is an assumption and close to reality but still an assumption. That's why the umpire's call remains in place unless the ball is hitting the stump without a margin of error.
 
Robert said:
What? It hit the pad and would have gone on to hit the stumps. It was out. What’s the point of DRS if it upholds wrong decisions?
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Rubbish. It was a marginal decision. By that token, Rohit was not out too.
 
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pillionrider said:
Was he ever going bald. Didn't notice.

Seems proud of his long locks now, shaking it about on every occasion. But he's cool and a fantastic player. So it's ok :afridi1
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Yeah, he was thinning in the front and heavily in the crown.

Seems to have gotten it done right before the WC.
 
Amjid Javed said:
My point was the on field umpire should have given it out in 1st place. I understand the umpires call rule. But the onfield umpire is saving his career and indias shot at WTC. Am sure he will get indias highest recognition after the game.
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Why? Pitch has a true bounce and if anything umpire was proven correct. It was not plumb missed by the umpire.
 
MP2011 said:
The ball on which Rohit got dismissed too was just clipping the bails, just like in this instance. Both were umpires' calls.

So there you go.
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Impact was 90% outside off on Rohit's dismissal. Absolutely pathetic rule this umpires call.
 
The tight decisions in this match so far have been Bairstow, Rohit, Pant.... the on-field umpires are doing a pretty good job to be honest — all three decisions could have gone either way, and it’s likely that by the end of the game then such marginal calls and “the rub of the green” will just about balance itself out.
 
Amjid Javed said:
My point was the on field umpire should have given it out in 1st place. I understand the umpires call rule. But the onfield umpire is saving his career and indias shot at WTC. Am sure he will get indias highest recognition after the game.
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What about Rohit's dismissal ?

Or is the crying and moaning only reserved to when India gets a favourable decision?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Rubbish. It was a marginal decision. By that token, Rohit was not out too.
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Marginal my foot. Pitched in line, no bat on it, would have clipped top of leg pole. Umpire’s Call law seems to mean “confirm wrong decisions”. It should be scrapped.
 
Rohit looked out live. The swing was prodigious.
 
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