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Saad Ali versus Saud Shakeel

Abdullah Rabbani

Abdullah Rabbani

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Theses Two are performing well in Domestic from long time now they have ready for International cricket Saad Ali was the leading run-scorer in the 2017–18 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, with a total of 957 runs in ten matches, more than 200 runs ahead of the next leading batsman in the tournament and saud shakeel have also very promising stats Pakistan team need players in ODI and Tests at number 4,5,6 who are consistent performers with good strike rate these two have ability to change mode with the situation what's your thinking which one make impact in international cricket we need to select young hardworking talented players which will have good statistics in domestic cricket not on one match performance , season or sloggers...


Saad Ali Age 24 : FC Matches: 54 Runs: 3607 Average: 45.08 SR: 51.15 Hundreds 9 Fifties 18

LA Matches: 45 Runs: 1528 Average: 46.30 SR: 84.09 Hundreds 1 Fifties 10




Saud Shakeel Age 23 : FC Matches: 27 Runs: 1893 Average: 45.39 SR: 50.21 Hundreds 6 Fifties 12

LA Matches: 41 Runs: 1746 Average: 52.90 SR: 84.75 Hundreds 3 Fifties 13

Looks Promising Hope They Debut Soon Not Wasted Like Others...
 
By every minute, PAK think tank is being exposed - it was an excellent opportunity to try at least 5/6 players in that series against ZIM reserves - Saud, Saad, Gohar/Raza, may be Ghulam/Bilal, a WK, Afridi, & another young all-rounder (Amad Butt?). Sarfraz could have played as specialist batsman & lead the side.

Total wastage of a series of 5 games.
 
Saad was head and shoulders above everyone last season. This season he hasn't been able to convert his starts.
 
Pakistanis don't seem to play enough cricket where as compared to Indians in terms of domestic.

Looking at the stats in the OP, especially Saud who's just played 27 FC matches where as both of them have played nearly same amount of List A matches.

Indians in comparison with the likes of Iyer, Nair have played way more than these guys despite age being nearly same or they could be a year or two older.

Pakistans FC system needs a major overhaul as it is not being given major priory over the other formats.
 
Saud Shakeel is better and it's an absolute disgrace that he hasn't at least made the squad for the national team.
 
MMHS said:
By every minute, PAK think tank is being exposed - it was an excellent opportunity to try at least 5/6 players in that series against ZIM reserves - Saud, Saad, Gohar/Raza, may be Ghulam/Bilal, a WK, Afridi, & another young all-rounder (Amad Butt?). Sarfraz could have played as specialist batsman & lead the side.

Total wastage of a series of 5 games.
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After Zimbabwe they were exposed in asia cup we need proper 6 batsman in top not slogger or 30 Average players
 
Abdullah Rabbani said:
After Zimbabwe they were exposed in asia cup we need proper 6 batsman in top not slogger or 30 Average players
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But, after being exposed - they brought back MoHa. I don’t think PAK would been exposed such had the ZIM series was used properly- at least expectations won’t have reached 12th cloud level.
 
Saad Ali And Saud Shakeel Are Knocking Back To Back By There Knocks Saad Ali Today At Q One Day Cup 82 Off 84 balls
Saud Shakeel 104 Off 107 Balls
 
Both are important players, both are pretty much different but yes I'd say Saud, however I'd like to see both of them in our squad
 
Saad Ali should replace Haris Sohail in Test squad &

Saud Shakeel should replace him in Odi squad.


Come On Inzi :)
 
MMHS said:
By every minute, PAK think tank is being exposed - it was an excellent opportunity to try at least 5/6 players in that series against ZIM reserves - Saud, Saad, Gohar/Raza, may be Ghulam/Bilal, a WK, Afridi, & another young all-rounder (Amad Butt?). Sarfraz could have played as specialist batsman & lead the side.

Total wastage of a series of 5 games.
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The only team out of the top 8 LOI sides that picks it's first XI for matches against Zimbabwe, Scotland, Ireland, WI and SL C teams is Pakistan. What makes it even more cringe is the OTT celebrations from these first team players.
 
Saud can be excellent choice for number 4 spot in OD. He can bowl 3 - 5 overs every game easily also.
 
Azhar, Shafiq, Imam and Fakhar (outside UAE) should be dropped .
 
Saud Shakil averages 52 in List A Cricket with 4 List A hundreds while


Saad Ali averages 46 with only 1 List A hundred.



Saud is much better on the eye aswell.
 
At number 6, Saud would have met a similar fate. This position is for the likes of Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood and Khushdil Shah, not Fawad Alam, Saad Ali or Saud Shakil.
 
Abdullah Rabbani said:
Theses Two are performing well in Domestic from long time now they have ready for International cricket Saad Ali was the leading run-scorer in the 2017–18 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, with a total of 957 runs in ten matches, more than 200 runs ahead of the next leading batsman in the tournament and saud shakeel have also very promising stats Pakistan team need players in ODI and Tests at number 4,5,6 who are consistent performers with good strike rate these two have ability to change mode with the situation what's your thinking which one make impact in international cricket we need to select young hardworking talented players which will have good statistics in domestic cricket not on one match performance , season or sloggers...


Saad Ali Age 24 : FC Matches: 54 Runs: 3607 Average: 45.08 SR: 51.15 Hundreds 9 Fifties 18

LA Matches: 45 Runs: 1528 Average: 46.30 SR: 84.09 Hundreds 1 Fifties 10




Saud Shakeel Age 23 : FC Matches: 27 Runs: 1893 Average: 45.39 SR: 50.21 Hundreds 6 Fifties 12

LA Matches: 41 Runs: 1746 Average: 52.90 SR: 84.75 Hundreds 3 Fifties 13

Looks Promising Hope They Debut Soon Not Wasted Like Others...
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What number does Saud Shakeel and Saad Ali normally bat?
 
Saud Shakil should have been in the squad by now, its shows lack of eye for Talent for new players
 
Saad Ali is a test player. Saud can play in all formats. If Inzi actually bothered to watch them, he'd stop making these idiotic mistakes.
 
asfandyar said:
At number 6, Saud would have met a similar fate. This position is for the likes of Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood and Khushdil Shah, not Fawad Alam, Saad Ali or Saud Shakil.
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Saud has the boundary hitting shots would have done definitely well compared to saad
 
Ugh.

If Saud turns out to be as bad as Saad Ali, then all these hype machines on this forum need to go into a hiding for years.

Another Fawad Alam/Imad Wasim this Saad Ali is . No strokes to take on bowlers.
 
ar2020 said:
LOL! Overrated.
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This was my Post when Haris Sohail got unfit again.



No way Saad should replace Haris in Test team when Haris is completely fit.



I rate Saud higher than Saad Ali but because of last two seasons Saad deserves a go ahead of Saud in Test squad since he has been part of Test Squad aswell.



Saud is superior than Saad.
 
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Saud was looking very decent today. His timing and placement is immaculate.


He missed a great opportunity today by getting run out not due to his fitness but laziness.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Saud was looking very decent today. His timing and placement is immaculate.


He missed a great opportunity today by getting run out not due to his fitness but laziness.
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How did you come to that conclusion as he only played 3 deliveries?
 
Saad Ali seems more like a test player. Cannot believe we played him at 6 in ODIs.
 
Saad Ali is a grinder while Saud Shakeel is a stylist.

Saad Ali might play some crucial innings at the top but people will always prefer the aesthetically pleasing Saud Shakeel.
 
Playing Saad Ali at no.6 against Australia was almost like telling him, sorry we dont need you.

Our team management is on an agenda!
 
Saad Ali thou has short innings has technique to succeed and he need to be played in 3-4 not at no.6 he is being waste.

Inzi and Mickey are playing with Pakistan and not playing for Pakistan.
 
in the long run we will regret not choosing Saud S for the world cup. The guy has class.

He got run out yesterday, but he will come good.
 
Saad Ali looks like a good runner between the wickets. In the Australia series seemed very keen on doubles, but was let down by his partners who were easy with singles.
 
Sher Khan said:
Saad Ali looks like a good runner between the wickets. In the Australia series seemed very keen on doubles, but was let down by his partners who were easy with singles.
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+1.
He is a very good fielder too.
 
Saud dismissed today for 2 off 4 balls (caught by Saad)
Saad batting currently at 47* off 28 balls (8 4s).
 
in_cutter said:
Just that one shot? Wah jee wah. You really do have an eye for talent.
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Not One. He was middling the ball beautifully and that was enough for Me. I just referred to best of those 3 shots.



Saud proved my point in next match where he scored 52 (37) and played most eye catching innings of the tournament. Open the relevant thread and also watch the footage.
 
Finally an innings of some note for Saad Ali in Paksitan ODI Cup and it came at a time when it was needed the most . He with Iftikhar helped his team to go past a target of 322 set up by Federal Areas. He featured in a partnership of 146 with iftikhar and ended up with a score of 76* 0ff 50 balls.
 
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Saud is quite disappointing in this tournament, first game he was run-out but no excuse for the next 2. Got a great start in 2nd game, then got out for 52 when this has been a batting feast for top 4 in this tournament; and today absolutely no excuse - batting first, came at 25th over with RR well over 6....

Unless, he makes these opportunities count, time & age won't wait for him.
 
Hopefully i am totally wrong but saad don.t inspire me much .his stand and deliver style won.t work in international cricket .he needs to work on his foot work else seems to be poors men salman butt in batting style


Saud is decent prospect but looking at his current physique he seems to be not working hard on his fitness which is pretty disappointing. Pakistan cup is excellent opportunity for him to show his batting credentials but he is wasting it
 
gazza619 said:
Playing Saad Ali at no.6 against Australia was almost like telling him, sorry we dont need you.

Our team management is on an agenda!
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We didn't ask him to go play hockey. He's a cricketer. Stop the nonsense. If you can bat you can bat.
 
Been a few games in the season and Saad has a couple of 50s, Saud yet to do anything of note yet.
 
Saud's hitting is as good as Fawad's. His hits are barely reaching the fielders.
 
We have a whole brigade of consolidators coming through the ranks. Rizwan, Saud, Saad, Rohail, Imran Rafiq, Omair Yousuf and even Haider Ali. Why aren't we getting more Sharjeel-like players when Shahid Afridi is the most famous batsman we have ever had?
 
Didn’t he end up with SR around 100? Pakistan batted got almost 100 off the last 10 and he was there for the most while so don’t see why he’s being criticised. Really should be batting at 3 though but understandable why he came later with Rohail in good form
 
Boi said:
Didn’t he end up with SR around 100? Pakistan batted got almost 100 off the last 10 and he was there for the most while so don’t see why he’s being criticised. Really should be batting at 3 though but understandable why he came later with Rohail in good form
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You should've watched the match.
 
Salman4. said:
You should've watched the match.
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I did watch. He kept the momentum going of the innings after Imran got out. Atleast he didn’t suck the life out of the innings and kept rotating strike, getting them close to 300.
 
No offense to saad ali but saud shakeel is class above .Saud has lean patch in this year quaid azam trophy but he will comeback with bang in next year quaid azam trophy
 
Saud is our future captain and has all the ingredients for susccess. But he is not a product of NCA so don"t know if it will happen or not. Probably he will be discarded after few failures like happened to many before him who were not a product of NCA.
 
Saud is just another clone of Sarfraz, Rizwan, Asad Shafiq, Fawad Alam. No power hitting ability.

He doesn’t have a good enough technique either; another player who won’t sustain a long career at International level.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Saud is our future captain and has all the ingredients for susccess. But he is not a product of NCA so don"t know if it will happen or not. Probably he will be discarded after few failures like happened to many before him who were not a product of NCA.
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Can you be more elaborative?
 
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