"Sarfaraz Ahmed is not a good wicket-keeper" : Ramiz Raja

[IAJ]

That missed chance cost us 50 runs. Anyway, he is a poor WK.

So? If not one person failed to made up for those runs surely two batsmen could have made 25 each. SL som by 7 wickets man, not 1 wicket.

I agree dropping catches will hurt your chances, but this match was lost by the batters and not one missed chance by the WK.

PS! I am not from Karachi!

 

[Sunzi]

Lols SL chasing 150 Odd and one missed chance would not matter much in this regard. So you can not blame him for costing us the match.
It was the collapse in first innings and then the mini collapse in our second innings which cost us the match.

People should put aside personal likes/dislikes and give an objective verdict.

Exactly.

The wicket would have been nice. However defending such a total, the stumping did not cost us the match - the collapses in both innings, particularly between lunch and tea on day one cost us the match.

 

[MRSN]

about time someone starts a thread about no. of catches/stumpings missed by Sarfraz..:kami

 

[MRSN]

So? If not one person failed to made up for those runs surely two batsmen could have made 25 each. SL som by 7 wickets man, not 1 wicket.

I agree dropping catches will hurt your chances, but this match was lost by the batters and not one missed chance by the WK.

PS! I am not from Karachi!

didn't Sri Lanka lost like 8 odd wickets for just 30 odd runs in UAE when Afridi was on fire? Anything can happen in cricket especially chasing low totals in test cricket.

 

[Sunzi]

didn't Sri Lanka lost like 8 odd wickets for just 30 odd runs in UAE when Afridi was on fire? Anything can happen in cricket especially chasing low totals in test cricket.

Yes. Anything can and does happen in cricket.

But realistically, presented with the situation and circumstances at the time, to call that missed chance the reason for the loss is silly IMO.

Sri Lanka were odds on.

Pakistan lost the game because of their batting, sigh.

 

[Stallion__]

Whats the point of criticizing? Its not a Junaid Khan case.

He is still the best we have got so just move on.

 

[srh]

He definitely should improve his wicket keeping. Otherwise he will have a short career. His batting will not always bail him out. Pakistani fans have suffered too much before by Kamran Akmal and would not want Sarfraz as another Kamran Akmal even if his batting is better than Kamran Akmal.

Cant PCB arrange wicket keeping for him one on one with Rashid Latif or Wasim Bari? Rashid Latif and Wasim Bari are the best wicket keepers Pakistan have ever produced and I am pretty sure they can improve Sarfraz's wicket keeping. Dont really want to lose Sarfraz in tests where he is easily better wicket keeper than anybody else.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Whats the point of criticizing? Its not a Junaid Khan case.

He is still the best we have got so just move on.

That's how Kamran decended into utter mediocrity.

The worst thing for Sarfraz would be realizing he is still the best option.

There are 2 kinds of players (in this context, think about WK):

1. Naturally good players who wil maintain standards cos they are naturally good and aren't stupid enough
2. Motivated players who aren't naturally good but have to work HARD to maintain standards. These people need a bit of fear to keep up the extra hard work.

Sarfraz needs a naturally good WK (even though he is a specialist). So he needs a bit of criticism, fear of spot to keep performing to his optimum level.

I am making a general point and not disagreeing with you.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

*Sarfraz isn't a naturally good WK

 

[Stallion__]

That's how Kamran decended into utter mediocrity.

The worst thing for Sarfraz would be realizing he is still the best option.

There are 2 kinds of players (in this context, think about WK):

1. Naturally good players who wil maintain standards cos they are naturally good and aren't stupid enough
2. Motivated players who aren't naturally good but have to work HARD to maintain standards. These people need a bit of fear to keep up the extra hard work.

Sarfraz needs a naturally good WK (even though he is a specialist). So he needs a bit of criticism, fear of spot to keep performing to his optimum level.

I am making a general point and not disagreeing with you.

I think the different way.

There are two ways players get motivated

1) By encouragement

2) By criticism

When you have identified someone who is potentially going to be with the team for longer period of time, he no doubt would make mistakes, but we need to adopt the first method to get him going.

Its not like he should be allowed to make as many blunders as he wants, just because we need him. Its just that make him realize his mistake and encourage him to do better next time and move on. By keep repeating statements like you have cost us the match won't help his confidence.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I think the different way.

There are two ways players get motivated

1) By encouragement

2) By criticism

When you have identified someone who is potentially going to be with the team for longer period of time, he no doubt would make mistakes, but we need to adopt the first method to get him going.

Its not like he should be allowed to make as many blunders as he wants, just because we need him. Its just that make him realize his mistake and encourage him to do better next time and move on. By keep repeating statements like you have cost us the match won't help his confidence.

Obviously criticism doesn't mean mindless bashing.

Contructive criticism is the key.

Tough love.

 

[Stallion__]

Obviously criticism doesn't mean mindless bashing.

Contructive criticism is the key.

Tough love.

Yup, exactly.

I didn't quote anyone, but my post was a natural response after reading remarks like he has cost us the match.

 

[Stallion__]

Obviously criticism doesn't mean mindless bashing.

Contructive criticism is the key.

Tough love.

See Hawkeye's post.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-we-won-the-1st-Test-Sarfraz-s-wicket-keeping

This is my method of motivating, his keeping is already much improved than last year, it only took one blunder (though it was a bad miss), for these threads popping up.

 

[Neferpitou]

So? If not one person failed to made up for those runs surely two batsmen could have made 25 each. SL som by 7 wickets man, not 1 wicket.

I agree dropping catches will hurt your chances, but this match was lost by the batters and not one missed chance by the WK.

PS! I am not from Karachi!

I'm not saying he lost the match, just a poor WK.

 

[fahadshah]

To all the haters please go and get some life. We lost the match by a far margin and we need to understand the fact that he is one winning u matches from pretty odd situations and yet he is the one blamed for one odd chance !
We really lack game sense and the amount of hatred towards sarfraz is too high here, where people work on specific agenda especially some people from punjab ! Let's see whether they can put up an akmal in place of him.


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[fahadshah]

And for all haters ! He is the best keeper batsman in pakistan !


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[fahadshah]

about time someone starts a thread about no. of catches/stumpings missed by Sarfraz..:kami

We won't be surprised if it's you and your guys coming up with a thread ! Tough luck lads he is tons ahead of those three you support !


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[umer187]

Sarfaraz is a very good batsman but he needs to work a lot on his keeping! He makes way to many mistakes!

 

[Professor]

He took the team out of a strong position and forced them to be in a condition where they can not win due to his careless, selfish batting style.


Does he need to go back to domestic cricket so that he learns to value his wicket?

I think so.

What do you guys think?

Completely agree with is, Sarfraz needs to be sent back to Karachi until he can learn how to bat in a test match. Even today he did not play risk free cricket and could have cost us the game. Chuck him out and get Adnan AKmal in.

 

[Adnan Siddiqui]

Completely agree with is, Sarfraz needs to be sent back to Karachi until he can learn how to bat in a test match. Even today he did not play risk free cricket and could have cost us the game. Chuck him out and get Adnan AKmal in.

Are u Waqar Younus relative?

 

[chill79]

This poor guy Sarfraz doesn't deserve to be in Pakistan cricket where they have such dubious fans who do not know anything about cricket. Get a life haters he is the only player who is consistently performing for Pakistan other than Azhar.

 

[naveed4687]

Get your heads cleared, only one guy in the whole who 4 once doesn't fail you! Pathetic call 4m ramiz

 

[Bouncer]

Dean Jones just commented that he is not a terrible keeper but he tends to lose his concentration as keeper on some crucial moments against spinners.

I hope that Yasir's ball to Uppal's which he edged for 4 doesnt cost Pak the test.

Sarfaraz was no way near the ball.

DJ: Says Sarfraz looks distracted when he is out in the middle.

This is VERY bad for a keeper. Club levels keepers do not have these faults and sarfaraz is losing his concentration in the middle

 

[ahanank]

Dean Jones just commented that he is not a terrible keeper but he tends to lose his concentration as keeper on some crucial moments against spinners.

I hope that Yasir's ball to Uppal's which he edged for 4 doesnt cost Pak the test.

Sarfaraz was no way near the ball.

DJ: Says Sarfraz looks distracted when he is out in the middle.

This is VERY bad for a keeper. Club levels keepers do not have these faults and sarfaraz is losing his concentration in the middle

He is extremely overrated.

 

[Bouncer]

He is extremely overrated.

Anyone who watches the game without any regional biase will tell you that he is NOT as good as he is made out to be.

Sarfraz is lucky that majority of people who back him do this due to regional bias...so we are stuck with him

 

[ahanank]

Anyone who watches the game without any regional biase will tell you that he is NOT as good as he is made out to be.

Sarfraz is lucky that majority of people who back him do this due to regional bias...so we are stuck with him

Exactly.

 

[Bouncer]

Now he gives away 4 runs with an overthrow.

Commentator said....Sarfraz was angry at the fielder's effort but he himself didnt put any effort in collecting the throw which gave SL extra 4 runs.

 

[fahadshah]

Dean Jones just commented that he is not a terrible keeper but he tends to lose his concentration as keeper on some crucial moments against spinners.

I hope that Yasir's ball to Uppal's which he edged for 4 doesnt cost Pak the test.

Sarfaraz was no way near the ball.

DJ: Says Sarfraz looks distracted when he is out in the middle.

This is VERY bad for a keeper. Club levels keepers do not have these faults and sarfaraz is losing his concentration in the middle

That ball came from inside half of the bat ! Always difficult because they have to change direction ! It's no rocket science


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[fahadshah]

Anyone who watches the game without any regional biase will tell you that he is NOT as good as he is made out to be.

Sarfraz is lucky that majority of people who back him do this due to regional bias...so we are stuck with him

He is winning you games out of nowhere and your hatred for him on regional bias makes it more evident !


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[fahadshah]

Now he gives away 4 runs with an overthrow.

Commentator said....Sarfraz was angry at the fielder's effort but he himself didnt put any effort in collecting the throw which gave SL extra 4 runs.

Bad throw and bad bounce for the keeper !


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[ahanank]

That ball came from inside half of the bat ! Always difficult because they have to change direction ! It's no rocket science


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It's about the position of his hands not moving with the ball. That's wasn't an easy catch but the least he could have done was save a boundary.

 

[fahadshah]

It's about the position of his hands not moving with the ball. That's wasn't an easy catch but the least he could have done was save a boundary.

No keeper can reach to it even to stop a boundary because they edge is so thin and the riffs of the leg spinner makes it go sharp and fast ! It's not about at least or least what should he done its about giving someone a break because if he makes an error the knives are out


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[Bouncer]

It's about the position of his hands not moving with the ball. That's wasn't an easy catch but the least he could have done was save a boundary.

Thats exactly my point he was no way near where any other keeper would have been - He should have been somehwhat near the ball....as Dean Jones pointed out...he tends to lose his concentration as keeper on some crucial moments against spinners.

 

[ahanank]

No keeper can reach to it even to stop a boundary because they edge is so thin and the riffs of the leg spinner makes it go sharp and fast ! It's not about at least or least what should he done its about giving someone a break because if he makes an error the knives are out


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I'm talking in general. While, you are defending him blindly.
You took the knife out in his defense. I just said: He is extremely overrated, which he is.

 

[fahadshah]

I'm talking in general. While, you are defending him blindly.
You took the knife out in his defense. I just said: He is extremely overrated, which he is.

Yeah we saw that in general lol ! Some ppers here talk about in general with their knives out on sarfraz ! Talking about overrated, not many who understands the game well doesn't second you lad ! Peace*


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[ahanank]

Yeah we saw that in general lol ! Some ppers here talk about in general with their knives out on sarfraz ! Talking about overrated, not many who understands the game well doesn't second you lad ! Peace*


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Aap ko apka Sarfraz mubarak...lol
Good day!

 

[fahadshah]

Aap ko apka Sarfraz mubarak...lol
Good day!

Yes lad ! Lol kato ab shahbash !


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[ahanank]

Yes lad ! Lol kato ab shahbash !


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Lol toh Safraz pe lagaya hai..tum dil pe na lo.

 

[Haroon786]

Needs to improve his keeping, missing 1-2 chances per innings is simply not good enough.

 

[Bouncer]

Jeezus Christ....Now lets go 4 byes.....Dean Jones sounds like as if he is about to throw up watching Sarfraz keep today.
Misbah...hands on his knees.

 

[ahanank]

Fanboys will defend him, nevertheless.

 

[shaaik]

Is it gonna be wicket or rain first ?

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[shaaik]

Rain first it's then...

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[b.lesner]

sarfraz drops another 1 of the bowling of shoaib malik.

 

[MenInG]

sarfraz drops another 1 of the bowling of shoaib malik.

Cmon he stopped a good one off Irfan - happens to the best.

 

[#GreenRoars]

sarfraz drops another 1 of the bowling of shoaib malik.

That was very difficult catch.

 

[mr-k]

That was under edge... Not dropped chance

 

[shah_1]

Not an easy chance, was an under edge.

 

[m.shah]

Lol.. What did he miss today??

 

[MRSN]

dropped a regulation chance..for a good keeper. Ramiz was never wrong. Sarfraz's habit of dropping catches ever other game is getting annoying. Feel for Wahab. He bowled his heart out and deserved that wicket.

 

[Mamoon]

His keeping is below par, but his batting is invaluable - nothing we can do about it except hope that he becomes accomplished with time.

 

[MRSN]

Where is that guy who compiled missed chances by Kamran? Can he do the same for Sarfraz?
I'm sure it'll be more interseting. Sarfraz's average catch drop per innings is probably the fastest I'm sure..

 

[Mamoon]

He is a better keeper than Kamran but inferior to Adnan. Somewhere in between.

 

[MRSN]

His keeping is below par, but his batting is invaluable - nothing we can do about it except hope that he becomes accomplished with time.

even if Sarfraz Ahmed had the average of Donald Bradman he still wouldnt be able to make up for the dropped catches..:Ian Chappell

 

[Hawkeye]

dropped a regulation chance..for a good keeper. Ramiz was never wrong. Sarfraz's habit of dropping catches ever other game is getting annoying. Feel for Wahab. He bowled his heart out and deserved that wicket.

Hain? lol looking at your Kamran Akmal love history, you had to bump this and make such remarks.

Where did you see someone taking such digs at Fawad Alam, Shan Masood or Ian Bell for dropping catches? What about the unbelievable catches he has taken in the last 1 year specially against Yasir Shah's bowling?

It was a tough catch, shouldn't be dropped but that doesn't make Sarfraz bad, he's the BEST WK/Bat in the world right now.

You are one big biased guy, hating everyone who takes the position of Kamran/Adnan Akmal or Malik.

 

[Mamoon]

even if Sarfraz Ahmed had the average of Donald Bradman he still wouldnt be able to make up for the dropped catches..:Ian Chappell

That was a flawed argument by him, didn't apply to Kamran either back when he was batting well.

 

[MRSN]

Hain? lol looking at your Kamran Akmal love history, you had to bump this and make such remarks.

Where did you see someone taking such digs at Fawad Alam, Shan Masood or Ian Bell for dropping catches? What about the unbelievable catches he has taken in the last 1 year specially against Yasir Shah's bowling?

It was a tough catch, shouldn't be dropped but that doesn't make Sarfraz bad, he's the BEST WK/Bat in the world right now.

You are one big biased guy, hating everyone who takes the position of Kamran/Adnan Akmal or Malik.

everyone has criticized culprits dropping catches in this match but Sarfraz is a different case. His primary job is catching in tests. and it's not the first time he dropped a catch. He drops these on regular basis. We don't care if he scores 30 with the bat but we cannot afford a missed chance by him especially in these conditions where picking up a wicket is one helll of a work.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Tough chance dying to your wrong side.

 

[Hawkeye]

everyone has criticized culprits dropping catches in this match but Sarfraz is a different case. His primary job is catching in tests. and it's not the first time he dropped a catch. He drops these on regular basis. We don't care if he scores 30 with the bat but we cannot afford a missed chance by him especially in these conditions where picking up a wicket is one helll of a work.

Chup kar bhai, your hate is unbelievable, anyone who is taking Kamran/Adnan position becomes the target of your obsessive hate. He is the best wk/bat in the world and you are taking such digs at him which are not even true, try to become neutral.

Others have dropped sitters, he dropped one low catch off an inside edge, going opposite the direction of the trajectory. no biggie. Has been a beast in keeping since the last year keeping against our brilliant spinners, winning us matches with both the bat and keeping.

Cut your hate.

 

[MRSN]

can't believe Cook is still batting. Should have been back to pavilion by now. It would have opened the gates for Pakistan's victory if only Sarf managed to grasp it.

 

[MRSN]

Chup kar bhai, your hate is unbelievable, anyone who is taking Kamran/Adnan position becomes the target of your obsessive hate. He is the best wk/bat in the world and you are taking such digs at him which are not even true, try to become neutral.

Others have dropped sitters, he dropped one low catch off an inside edge, going opposite the direction of the trajectory. no biggie. Has been a beast in keeping since the last year keeping against our brilliant spinners, winning us matches with both the bat and keeping.

Cut your hate.

bhai I'm not hating..I'm just highlighting his weaknesses. Do you want me to have expectations from him of a good keeper or a mediocre one? he has to improve not regress.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION]

We know his keeping is bad, but what's the solution? Replace him with whom?

Kamran is a worse keeper and Adnan is a worse batsman; Umar is not a Test standard keeper, while Rizwan has the potentially be a better player than him both with the bat and the gloves, but his keeping is a bit raw at the moment.

I myself don't consider Sarfraz the second coming of Gilchrist as some make him look like, but the truth is that he's comfortably our best option at present.

 

[m.shah]

Did he drop any??

 

[#GreenRoars]

Did he drop any??

Cook on 174

 

[fahadshah]

Yawns [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] . Khuda ka khauf karo bhai. Tough chance.


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[fahadshah]

Chup kar bhai, your hate is unbelievable, anyone who is taking Kamran/Adnan position becomes the target of your obsessive hate. He is the best wk/bat in the world and you are taking such digs at him which are not even true, try to become neutral.

Others have dropped sitters, he dropped one low catch off an inside edge, going opposite the direction of the trajectory. no biggie. Has been a beast in keeping since the last year keeping against our brilliant spinners, winning us matches with both the bat and keeping.

Cut your hate.

Bhai sarfraz agar aik match me 10 out bhe kardega na tou ye log kaheingay k 4 extras dediye bye k usnay. Lol these guys are biased. He's absolutely mile ahead in Pakistan in terms of batting and keeping both. He's brilliant with the bat and gloves from the past year or so. But these guys keeps crashing on him on every opportunity they get.


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[Amjid Javed]

Sirfraz with the gloves is the best of an average bunch, his batting is by far miles ahead of any other options so he stays in the team.

 

[Markhor]

Catch to get rid of Root was very well taken, ball kept quite low.

 

[Abdullah719]

Yawns [MENTION=57576]MRSN[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] . Khuda ka khauf karo bhai. Tough chance.


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Hain?

the truth is that he's comfortably our best option at present.

 

[Yaasir]

That was a very tough chance. Harsh to call it a drop. Would have been a wonderful catch if taken. Some people on this forum are just blinded by hate sadly.

The catch he took to dismiss Root was an excellent take!

 

[waleed88]

can't believe Cook is still batting. Should have been back to pavilion by now. It would have opened the gates for Pakistan's victory if only Sarf managed to grasp it.

Yea it was Misbah's conspiracy to let Cook play so that he outscores Malik.

Sarfaraz was in on the gig as well.

Bolo bolo, abhi yehi boldo

 

[waleed88]

Bhai sarfraz agar aik match me 10 out bhe kardega na tou ye log kaheingay k 4 extras dediye bye k usnay. Lol these guys are biased. He's absolutely mile ahead in Pakistan in terms of batting and keeping both. He's brilliant with the bat and gloves from the past year or so. But these guys keeps crashing on him on every opportunity they get.


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A mile??

There is 10,000 feet of nothingness, and then there is Kamran Akmal

 

[MRSN]

Yea it was Misbah's conspiracy to let Cook play so that he outscores Malik.

Sarfaraz was in on the gig as well.

Bolo bolo, abhi yehi boldo

The only thing this match is proving how good htb your dear Misbah must be as a test batsman to score 60% of his runs on the flat roads of UAE like this..What an achievement. Voww. Only pitches like this could improve his average otherwise he averages in the 20s in SL/SA/AUS even Pak and no games in Eng yet must thank God.

 

[theariezman]

Sarfraz is good in front of wickets (but not for so long) and an average behind the wickets.

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[waleed88]

The only thing this match is proving how good htb your dear Misbah must be as a test batsman to score 60% of his runs on the flat roads of UAE like this..What an achievement. Voww. Only pitches like this could improve his average otherwise he averages in the 20s in SL/SA/AUS even Pak and no games in Eng yet must thank God.

Lol the funny thing is there was an article on Dawn about Shoaib Malik.

The author of the article is the very well versed Nadeem f Paracha.

In that article it clearly mentioned Malik was a very good cricketing brain but his downfall was his own attitude towards the game.

He was compared to Misbah as well, since Misbah has always credited Malik for his re- introduction to the side.

The author went on to praise Misbah's consistency and basically compared Malik's recent revival to Misbah's introduction to the side in 2007 at 33.

He said Malik should consider Misbah his role model if he wants to make his stay in the side permanent this time.

Now Misbah's stats maybe mediocre but he has outdone Malik in all forms of the game in a shorter career span than Malik's. Who can only thank his lucky stars he had a captain like Misbah to put faith in him.

Ab yeh bhi kehdo Nadeem f paracha doesnot know anything about cricket

http://www.dawn.com/news/1213252

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[MRSN]

Lol the funny thing is there was an article on Dawn about Shoaib Malik.

The author of the article is the very well versed Nadeem f Paracha.

In that article it clearly mentioned Malik was a very good cricketing brain but his downfall was his own attitude towards the game.

He was compared to Misbah as well, since Misbah has always credited Malik for his re- introduction to the side.

The author went on to praise Misbah's consistency and basically compared Malik's recent revival to Misbah's introduction to the side in 2007 at 33.

He said Malik should consider Misbah his role model if he wants to make his stay in the side permanent this time.

Now Misbah's stats maybe mediocre but he has outdone Malik in all forms of the game in a shorter career span than Malik's. Who can only thank his lucky stars he had a captain like Misbah to put faith in him.

Ab yeh bhi kehdo Nadeem f paracha doesnot know anything about cricket

http://www.dawn.com/news/1213252

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So I should change my opinion based on an article written by a biased anaylyst on Dawn? you can't be that naive? Nadeem F Paracha has his biases and not many people take him serious especially in cricket. There was a thread on PP a year back where some knowledgeable posters countered Nadeem's biased and factually incorrect article about 80s cricketer.

 

[axl100mph]

Lol the funny thing is there was an article on Dawn about Shoaib Malik.

The author of the article is the very well versed Nadeem f Paracha.

In that article it clearly mentioned Malik was a very good cricketing brain but his downfall was his own attitude towards the game.

He was compared to Misbah as well, since Misbah has always credited Malik for his re- introduction to the side.

The author went on to praise Misbah's consistency and basically compared Malik's recent revival to Misbah's introduction to the side in 2007 at 33.

He said Malik should consider Misbah his role model if he wants to make his stay in the side permanent this time.

Now Misbah's stats maybe mediocre but he has outdone Malik in all forms of the game in a shorter career span than Malik's. Who can only thank his lucky stars he had a captain like Misbah to put faith in him.

Ab yeh bhi kehdo Nadeem f paracha doesnot know anything about cricket

http://www.dawn.com/news/1213252

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Both r mediocre players who excel coz of their ability to always cash in on easy conditions. Misbah has been a master of making use of his strengths, however little they maybe, which is why u see an inflated record in overseas odi's, yet a poor record in tests held in the same venues, where conditions r more challenging.

Misbah is a flat track bully n there is no secret in that but he is behind malik 'the odi player' as the latter is more dynamic, even though he posesses an inferior defensive technique than misbah

 

[waleed88]

Both r mediocre players who excel coz of their ability to always cash in on easy conditions. Misbah has been a master of making use of his strengths, however little they maybe, which is why u see an inflated record in overseas odi's, yet a poor record in tests held in the same venues, where conditions r more challenging.

Misbah is a flat track bully n there is no secret in that but he is behind malik 'the odi player' as the latter is more dynamic, even though he posesses an inferior defensive technique than misbah

Most people can hardly argue that Malik is a consistent player.

He has gone many identities throughout his international career without knowing his true characteristics as a player.

Many time he has been a jack of all trades and a master of none.

NFP refers to that and talks about Malik need to being more consistent with his performances. Taking a leaf from Misbah's book.

I don't see anything wrong with that assessment whatever people might say about his past knowledge.

Its pretty obvious 'one inning wonder' has a long way to go to establish himself as big a player as Misbah. But he's made a decent start.

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[waleed88]

And seriously why are we talking about Misbah in a Sarfaraz thread?

Clearly the bias is with someone else on this forum who is irritated by every mention of Misbah.

Mods need to take note of this. Posters derailing threads making it about personal favorites.

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[axl100mph]

Most people can hardly argue that Malik is a consistent player.

He has gone many identities throughout his international career without knowing his true characteristics as a player.

Many time he has been a jack of all trades and a master of none.

NFP refers to that and talks about Malik need to being more consistent with his performances. Taking a leaf from Misbah's book.

I don't see anything wrong with that assessment whatever people might say about his past knowledge.

Its pretty obvious 'one inning wonder' has a long way to go to establish himself as big a player as Misbah. But he's made a decent start.

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I rate neither of the two but atleast malik, when he comes off increases the chance of us posting a good total in odi's.
With misbah, even in his successful innings, the whole momentum of the match is sucked out.
Guys like rizwan, sarfaraz, umar would always prefer to bat with malik who knows the art of batting in the middle overs as he rotates frequently on the other hand, with misbah, there is no flow to the partnership n most of his partners try to make up for his inactivity at the crease n implode.