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Shane Warne ranks the best batsmen he’s seen or shared a ground with

1. Viv Richards (WI)

2. Brian Lara (WI)

3. Sachin Tendulkar (Ind)

4. Greg Chappell (Aus)

5. Ricky Ponting (Aus)

6. Allan Border (Aus)

7. Jacques Kallis (SAf)

8. Graham Gooch (Eng)

9. AB de Villiers (SAf)

10. Steve Smith (Aus), Virat Kohli (Ind)

CRICKET loves an acronym like DRS and lbw but I want to talk about BSB, which may be the game’s hottest topic right now.

BSB? That’s Best Since Bradman.

The Don stands indisputably as the measure by which all batsmen are judged. He is so far ahead of the pack that we have to put him to one side when we run a rule over those who have excelled with blade in hand.

No disrespect to players from times before the 1970s but I wasn’t born then so it’s hard to judge fairly what you haven’t witnessed with your own eyes.

So for this debate I’m including players that I’ve seen and played with or against.

There are two current batsmen who stack up on the all-time greatest list and one will have another chance to put his case to move up the rankings at the MCG on Boxing Day. That’s Steve Smith.

Smith and his Indian counterpart Virat Kohli are duelling for a spot in my top 10 bats of the past 40 or so years and both are heading up that ladder with a bullet.

The best batsmen since the mid-70s in my opinion is Viv Richards — the Master Blaster is my No.1 followed by fellow West Indian superstar Brian Lara, then the Little Master Sachin Tendulkar along with the graceful and elegant Greg Chappell.

To me, these guys form the rung under Bradman.

Beneath this quartet is a group of more great modern-day players in Jacques Kallis, Ricky Ponting, Graham Gooch, Allan Border and AB de Villiers.

I don’t assess greatness by stats, but rather by the way someone played the game, the way they influenced results and the impact they had on all of us. That’s how we remember our heroes.


To me a great batsman has to have made a hundred in three key countries: in England, against the Duke ball on seaming and swinging pitches; in Australia, on our fast-paced, bouncy tracks; and of course, in the dust bowls of India, on pitches that spin and spit.

The very best must be men for all seasons, and all conditions.

Steve Smith has made 200 in England, he’s now got a double ton at the WACA and he’s made big hundreds in India. So in the three toughest environments to perform, he’s done it and hasn’t he done it well, too.

Smith is not as destructive as a Vivvy Richards — there hasn’t been anyone who is — he is more of a quiet assassin. It’s death by a thousand cuts.

He’s not as aggressive as a Ponting, he’s more Gooch and Kallis. He likes to wear the bowlers down, make them bowl to him. Patience is his key.


The Master Blaster Viv Richards was Warnie’s pick for No.1.

Indian maestro Sachin Tendulkar wasn’t far behind.
The thing that puts the Australian skipper up with the very best is a trait shared by them all — just how quickly he picks up the ball out of the bowler’s hand and judges length.

Someone batting with his technique — which is unusual, to be polite — is going to be vulnerable if not for an unerring ability to pick up the length and get into position, which then gives him time and makes it look like the bowlers are bowling slowly.

To me Steve Smith is the best Test batsman in the world.

Virat Kohli is the best across all three formats of the game, but across five days, Steve Smith is the man.

The hole in Kohli’s CV on the Test match stage is in England and the pressure is on the fiery but very likeable Indian to carry over some double-ton magic from home soil to that country when his team tours next year.

I actually think Kohli is easier to bowl to than Smith.

With Virat you can plan to bowl around that off stump and he will be tempted to have a little play, but Smith will leave the ball there all day. He’ll make you bowl to him.

I reckon Joe Root has come up with some good plans for Smith during the Ashes, but he hasn’t had the bowlers to execute them.

One idea for Smith is to bowl at the stumps and ribs with a leg slip and a majority of an on-side field, as well as a catching mid-wicket. Bowl at his hip and his rib, and at the stumps for lbw — good plans.


Greg Chappell’s elegance at the crease puts him in Warnie’s top five.
The old adage of bowling over the top of off stump isn’t a bad idea either when the ball moves, but the big problem for the England attack has been speed, or rather, lack of speed when the wicket has become flat.

Jimmy Anderson has been very accurate but he doesn’t look threatening or have the necessary pace and the Kookaburra ball has swung and seamed for him only once, with the pink ball under lights in Adelaide.

And none of the other English bowlers have either the accuracy or the pace to worry the Australian skipper.

So you can have the best plans in the world, but if you can’t put them into practice, they’re worthless.

England desperately needs some pace and I’ve been surprised the tourists haven’t rushed Mark Wood into the Test team.

I thought Wood was a certainty to play in Adelaide, and if he didn’t play in Adelaide, then he had to play in Perth. He must be injured, otherwise it’s been a huge mistake.

One of the main differences between the teams has been the Australians bowling 10kmh faster than the Poms. It’s really shown up how medium-paced and similar the England attack is.

But whatever England throws up at the MCG next week, you’d back Smith to handle it.

He’ll continue to lead from the front by way of his batting, much like Ricky Ponting and Allan Border did before him.

Smith is not a Mark Taylor type captain — who by the way was the best captain I played under due to his communication skills and aggressive, risk-taking tactics — but captaincy is about getting the best out of his players and Smith is doing it well.

As a person, Steve Smith is a good fella. I don’t know him really well, but I know him well enough. He’s a really level-headed guy.

Although I reckon his fiancee Dani Willis might read cricket books to him at night, that’s how much he loves the game.

He eats, sleeps and breathes cricket and it shows. His Test average as Australian captain is 73. Extraordinary.

From 59 Tests in total he has scored 5796 runs at 62.32.

Look at him on pure numbers and since Bradman, he’s the best. If Smith keeps this form up over 100 Test matches, he will leave the game as an absolute legend and one of the all-time greats.

It’s easy to forget he started out as a leg-spinning all-rounder, batting at seven, eight and nine.

You’d have to think there will be a dip in performance at some stage, but considering his average since he notched his first century, at the Oval in August 2013 — it’s a touch under 72 — maybe not.


Graham Gooch was Warnie’s toughest Ashes opponent.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...n/news-story/accde504f56f7f52daa16fc83713a371
 
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Very good list. Everyone and everywhere Kohli and ABD is rated highly unless it's Pakpassion.
 
I always enjoy reading Warne. So clever and so insightful.
 
That's some list.

Glad to see Gooch there. He's criminally underrated (because of stats who seldom tell the whole story). Almost all ATG bowlers who played against him (2Ws including) rate him.
 
He could just say Indian batsmen. Azharuddin, Kambli, Sidhu, Laxman even Wasim Jaffer thrashed him over. I still respect him as a great bowler. For some reason he never got hold of Indian batsmen. From Pakistan Salim Malik played him well.
 
I always enjoy reading Warne. So clever and so insightful.

Not very intelligent. He says all the great batsmen have to score on swinging , bouncy and spin pitches aka Eng , Aus and Ind .. and then goes on to include Ponting at 5 , who couldn't buy a run in India.
 
Not very intelligent. He says all the great batsmen have to score on swinging , bouncy and spin pitches aka Eng , Aus and Ind .. and then goes on to include Ponting at 5 , who couldn't buy a run in India.

Ponting averaged 42 in Asia. Hardly a colossal failure in spinning conditions. Failure in certain conditons would be someone like Sehwag, who averaged 27 in England, 20 in NZ and 25 in SA. That's a proper failure in swinging and seaming conditions.
 
Ponting averaged 42 in Asia. Hardly a colossal failure in spinning conditions. Failure in certain conditons would be someone like Sehwag, who averaged 27 in England, 20 in NZ and 25 in SA. That's a proper failure in swinging and seaming conditions.

Sehwag's stats should not read in cricinfo. You have to watch match. One time he toured they offered drop-in pitches which are atypical for NZ. Second time toured batting conditions were too good that he could have scored fastest 200. But he got out to Vettori. Same way in SA in one of the tour he was grossly out of form. They even tried him at no.7. Also they set one day field for him even in SA tests where he would slice the ball to third man. A total hack like Jaffer made 116 in that match. Sehwag just failed to cash in on some of the easy paced pitches there because he was way too adventurous.
 
Sehwag's stats should not read in cricinfo. You have to watch match. One time he toured they offered drop-in pitches which are atypical for NZ. Second time toured batting conditions were too good that he could have scored fastest 200. But he got out to Vettori. Same way in SA in one of the tour he was grossly out of form. They even tried him at no.7. Also they set one day field for him even in SA tests where he would slice the ball to third man. A total hack like Jaffer made 116 in that match. Sehwag just failed to cash in on some of the easy paced pitches there because he was way too adventurous.

I'm sorry man but he was dreadful in such conditions, this is not even a debate. Even in 2011 at the peak of his career, he was schooled by Anderson for a king pair in conditions where an innings read 710/7.

The sample set is way too high to ignore. 19 Tests with an average in the mid 20s is nothing but a big failure. If Ponting's average of 26 in one country in Asia is enough to label him as terrible against spin then Sehwag has to legitimately be one of the worst top order players ever against swing and seam.
 
I'm sorry man but he was dreadful in such conditions, this is not even a debate. Even in 2011 at the peak of his career, he was schooled by Anderson for a king pair in conditions where an innings read 710/7.

The sample set is way too high to ignore. 19 Tests with an average in the mid 20s is nothing but a big failure. If Ponting's average of 26 in one country in Asia is enough to label him as terrible against spin then Sehwag has to legitimately be one of the worst top order players ever against swing and seam.

Lara doesn't have great record in India either. Murali doesn't have. Warne doesn't have. They are still well respected. Viru being not a natural opener was always going to be a wild card. Most of the time Viru got out even when in form in those conditions were not because of "so called conditions" . Batting in NZ is as easy as batting in India lot of times. This blind assumption that NZ.SA, England mean "swinging conditions" is not right. LOrds is a patta wicket.
 
Lara doesn't have great record in India either. Murali doesn't have. Warne doesn't have. They are still well respected. Viru being not a natural opener was always going to be a wild card. Most of the time Viru got out even when in form in those conditions were not because of "so called conditions" . Batting in NZ is as easy as batting in India lot of times. This blind assumption that NZ.SA, England mean "swinging conditions" is not right. LOrds is a patta wicket.


Lara had one of the greatest series ever by a non Asian batsman in Asia in SL 2001 against a rampaging Murali. His competence against spin is not in doubt in the slightest. India isn't the only country in the world where there are spin friendly conditions and the names you mentioned have more than respectable figures in Asian conditions.

On the other hand, Sehwag has a dreadful record just about in every country where the reliance on pace supersedes spin. Don't let the Flat pitch era from 2013- fool you. Pitches and conditions in the first decade of this millennium were much more typical of their land than what they are now in SA, NZ, Aus and Eng and Sehwag played the majority of his career in that decade. The bottom line remains that for 19 out of his 100 odd tests in his career in these conditions (around 20%) against decent bowling attacks, he was an absolute liability as an opening batsman.
 
Lara had one of the greatest series ever by a non Asian batsman in Asia in SL 2001 against a rampaging Murali. His competence against spin is not in doubt in the slightest. India isn't the only country in the world where there are spin friendly conditions and the names you mentioned have more than respectable figures in Asian conditions.

On the other hand, Sehwag has a dreadful record just about in every country where the reliance on pace supersedes spin. Don't let the Flat pitch era from 2013- fool you. Pitches and conditions in the first decade of this millennium were much more typical of their land than what they are now in SA, NZ, Aus and Eng and Sehwag played the majority of his career in that decade. The bottom line remains that for 19 out of his 100 odd tests in his career in these conditions (around 20%) against decent bowling attacks, he was an absolute liability as an opening batsman.

Doesn't matter. What is his record in India? Will you not count that agianst him? Even in one dayers he was nothing but ordinary. I saw him live when he was at his peak. He was inferior to say someone like Carl Hooper. Dont forget Viru made 110 runs in 119 balls on his debu t in SA against some of the great bowlers when India was down for the count. I suppose you wil have an excuse for that.
 
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Doesn't matter. What is his record in India? Will you not count that agianst him? Even in one dayers he was nothing but ordinary. I saw him live when he was at his peak. He was inferior to say someone like Carl Hooper.

India isn't an abbreviation for spinning conditions and Lara more than proved himself in spinning conditions. By your line of reasoning, Dravid must be a dreadful player against seam since he averaged 29 in SA even though he more than proved himself in similar conditions in Eng and NZ where he averaged in the 60s.
 
Any list that Warne draws up will always have more credibility than any list drawn up by most ex players. I mostly agree with him, although Allan Border is lucky to be on the list.
 
India isn't an abbreviation for spinning conditions and Lara more than proved himself in spinning conditions. By your line of reasoning, Dravid must be a dreadful player against seam since he averaged 29 in SA even though he more than proved himself in similar conditions in Eng and NZ where he averaged in the 60s.

Pray tell me why he failed. Even in the toughest test match where Draivd made 2 fifites., Lara failed. WHy did he?
 
Pray tell me why he failed. Even in the toughest test match where Draivd made 2 fifites., Lara failed. WHy did he?

So by your logic, are Kumble and Ramdin better batsman than Lara only because they scored more than Lara in that particular test? This is clutching at straws at it's finest. Sehwag's average in 19 Test matches in Eng, NZ and SA is in the mid twenties. That's like 20% of his career and around 40% of his overseas career. Lara averaged 120+ in the 2001 series against Murali who is by far the best Asian spin bowler in history. Overall, Lara averaged friggin' 59 in Asia
 
So by your logic, are Kumble and Ramdin better batsman than Lara only because they scored more than Lara in that particular test? This is clutching at straws at it's finest. Sehwag's average in 19 Test matches in Eng, NZ and SA is in the mid twenties. That's like 20% of his career and around 40% of his overseas career. Lara averaged 120+ in the 2001 series against Murali who is by far the best Asian spin bowler in history. Overall, Lara averaged friggin' 59 in Asia


That is your logic. You blindly say all places where Sehwag failed are tough conditions. All places where he did well are flat conditions. That is flat out false. His game is a high risk game. So they set unorthodox fields for him in Tests. He occasionally succumbed to it. He bossed Steyn . Steyn has bossed him as well. You suggest as if it is easy to bat like Viru given the condition. Facing new ball is a challenge anywhere. Has Steyn ever said "Facing Dravid was a nightmare" lol he has only said "Facing Sehwag was a nightmare"
http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/virender-sehwag-was-a-nightmare-dale-steyn/
 
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That is your logic. You blindly say all places where Sehwag failed are tough conditions. All places where he did well are flat conditions. That is flat out false. His game is a high risk game. So they set unorthodox fields for him in Tests. He occasionally succumbed to it. He bossed Steyn . Steyn has bossed him as well. You suggest as if it is easy to bat like Viru given the condition. Facing new ball is a challenge anywhere. http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/virender-sehwag-was-a-nightmare-dale-steyn/

It's because there is not a single country in which there are swing and seam friendly pitches and conditions as the norm where he has done well. In all 3 out of 3 countries, his average is in the mid 20s. This isn't even nitpicking.. this is the entire sample set!

Unorthodox fields or not, fact remains that Sehwag was a failure as an opening batsman in the 19 Test match sample set of his in NZ, SA and Eng. These are facts. What you're doing with finding one Test match here and there is nitpicking. Nobody would ever call Sehwag as even a good batsman against swing and seam whereas a wide majority of the people would tell you that Lara was a great player against spin.
 
Sehwag was good but not good enough to share dressing room when all these guys are available and fit to play.
 
It's because there is not a single country in which there are swing and seam friendly pitches and conditions as the norm where he has done well. In all 3 out of 3 countries, his average is in the mid 20s. This isn't even nitpicking.. this is the entire sample set!

Unorthodox fields or not, fact remains that Sehwag was a failure as an opening batsman in the 19 Test match sample set of his in NZ, SA and Eng. These are facts. What you're doing with finding one Test match here and there is nitpicking. Nobody would ever call Sehwag as even a good batsman against swing and seam whereas a wide majority of the people would tell you that Lara was a great player against spin.

Getting out to Vettori in seaming conditions mean he can't play seam delivery? In a match where pokemon Gambhir who has lesser technique than Sehwag survived for 10 hours, Sehwag failed. That means he can't play swing and seam?
 
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Getting out to Vettori in seaming conditions mean he can't play seam delivery? In a match where pokemon Gambhir who has lesser technique than Sehwag survived for 10 hours, Sehwag failed. That means he can't play swing and seam?

No, he can't play swing and seam because he hasn't performed against swing and seam in swinging and seaming conditions. Simple as that.
 
Viv and Lara are EASILY the greatest batsmen in modern times. Especially in Test cricket.

No one can argue convincingly that Sachin is better than them in Tests.
 
His preference seems to have changed slightly in a span of 10 years.

Shane Warne's list of greatest cricketers
1 Sachin Tendulkar 2 Brian Lara 3 Curtly Ambrose 4 Allan Border 5 Glenn McGrath 6 Wasim Akram 7 Muttiah Muralitharan 8 Ricky Ponting 9 Mark Taylor 10 Ian Healy 11 Courtney Walsh 12 Mark Waugh 13 Anil Kumble 14 Rahul Dravid 15 Graham Gooch 16 Andrew Flintoff 17 Matthew Hayden 18 Merv Hughes 19 Aravinda de Silva 20 Adam Gilchrist 21 David Boon 22 Martin Crowe 23 Stephen Fleming 24 Brett Lee 25 Darren Lehmann 26 Steve Waugh 27 Jacques Kallis/ Shaun Pollock 28 Saeed Anwar/ Mohammad Yousuf 29 Shoaib Akhtar/ Craig McDermott 30 Kevin Pietersen 31 Tim May 32 Robin Smith 33 Allan Donald 34 Bruce Reid 35 Michael Vaughan 36 Andy Flower 37 Stephen Harmison 38 Sanath Jayasuriya 39 Stuart MacGill 40 Kapil Dev 41 Justin Langer 42 Ravi Shastri 43 Michael Atherton 44 Alec Stewart 45 Waqar Younis 46 Dilip Vengsarkar 47 Chris Cairns 48 Brian McMillan 49 Darren Berry 50 Jamie Siddons
 
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His preference seems to have changed slightly in a span of 10 years.

Shane Warne's list of greatest cricketers
1 Sachin Tendulkar 2 Brian Lara 3 Curtly Ambrose 4 Allan Border 5 Glenn McGrath 6 Wasim Akram 7 Muttiah Muralitharan 8 Ricky Ponting 9 Mark Taylor 10 Ian Healy 11 Courtney Walsh 12 Mark Waugh 13 Anil Kumble 14 Rahul Dravid 15 Graham Gooch 16 Andrew Flintoff 17 Matthew Hayden 18 Merv Hughes 19 Aravinda de Silva 20 Adam Gilchrist 21 David Boon 22 Martin Crowe 23 Stephen Fleming 24 Brett Lee 25 Darren Lehmann 26 Steve Waugh 27 Jacques Kallis/ Shaun Pollock 28 Saeed Anwar/ Mohammad Yousuf 29 Shoaib Akhtar/ Craig McDermott 30 Kevin Pietersen 31 Tim May 32 Robin Smith 33 Allan Donald 34 Bruce Reid 35 Michael Vaughan 36 Andy Flower 37 Stephen Harmison 38 Sanath Jayasuriya 39 Stuart MacGill 40 Kapil Dev 41 Justin Langer 42 Ravi Shastri 43 Michael Atherton 44 Alec Stewart 45 Waqar Younis 46 Dilip Vengsarkar 47 Chris Cairns 48 Brian McMillan 49 Darren Berry 50 Jamie Siddons

This !!! Some of these Australians are just something when it comes to catering to the audience. Warne , Lee and Hayden are some examples. Not that i care about his list.
 
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He did make 119 on his debut when India was like 43/5.

Kapil Dev scored 129 out of 215 at the Port Elizabeth Test in 1992. Does that make him a better batsman against swing and seam than some of the more accomplished batsman batting with him at that time? Your nitpicking tactic is wearing thin pal. Please realize this : Sehwag averaged in the mid 20s in NZ, SA and Eng. That's a 100% unequivocal failure in swinging and seaming conditions. End of the story.
 
Kapil Dev scored 129 out of 215 at the Port Elizabeth Test in 1992. Does that make him a better batsman against swing and seam than some of the more accomplished batsman batting with him at that time? Your nitpicking tactic is wearing thin pal. Please realize this : Sehwag averaged in the mid 20s in NZ, SA and Eng. That's a 100% unequivocal failure in swinging and seaming conditions. End of the story.

No your argument has so many holes. According to your logic he should have failed there right? Kapil was a mighty good batsman. Just that he didn't value his wicket. Dravid averaged 15 in Australia in 1999 series. That would make him a hopeless batsman? Kohli averaged less than Bhuvi in England. That would make Bhuvi a better batsman than him. You just ignore how a batsman gets out, whether it was because of seam or swing. You just lump all his dismissals into "swing and seam" dismissals. His nature of scoring is fast scoring. A wild card. Even in SA his strike rate is 68 in Tests. That is almost like an opener scoring 25 runs in 35 balls in SA every time he walks out . M Vijay even with his impeccable defense averaged only 29. Buthe was probably one of the most valuable batsman for India. In NZ in one of the major series all pitches were nothing but flat roads. If anything Sehwag missed out on one of the easist conditions. Even Yuvraj with his awful technique batted well. He had couple of horrendous tours one to Englan one to SA mostly due to him being out of form. I pretty much followed all his series "live" not follow cricinfo after years.
 
No your argument has so many holes. According to your logic he should have failed there right? Kapil was a mighty good batsman. Just that he didn't value his wicket. Dravid averaged 15 in Australia in 1999 series. That would make him a hopeless batsman? Kohli averaged less than Bhuvi in England. That would make Bhuvi a better batsman than him. You just ignore how a batsman gets out, whether it was because of seam or swing. You just lump all his dismissals into "swing and seam" dismissals. His nature of scoring is fast scoring. A wild card. Even in SA his strike rate is 68 in Tests. That is almost like an opener scoring 25 runs in 35 balls in SA every time he walks out . M Vijay even with his impeccable defense averaged only 29. Buthe was probably one of the most valuable batsman for India. In NZ in one of the major series all pitches were nothing but flat roads. If anything Sehwag missed out on one of the easist conditions. Even Yuvraj with his awful technique batted well. He had couple of horrendous tours one to Englan one to SA mostly due to him being out of form. I pretty much followed all his series "live" not follow cricinfo after years.

You're just doing mental gymnastics here. Which great player of swing and seam bowling averages a combined 24.7 in NZ, Eng and SA? One can fail in one country, hell I'd even consider one failing in two, but how can you justify failing in all the 3 countries primarily known for their swinging and seaming conditions with a significant sample set? "His approach led him to his poor records" is a non argument. You either succeed, or you fail. Sehwag in his case.. failed. He didn't fulfill his duty as an opener in those conditions, hence he is a failure against swing and seam bowling. That's all there's to it.
 
You're just doing mental gymnastics here. Which great player of swing and seam bowling averages a combined 24.7 in NZ, Eng and SA? One can fail in one country, hell I'd even consider one failing in two, but how can you justify failing in all the 3 countries primarily known for their swinging and seaming conditions with a significant sample set? "His approach led him to his poor records" is a non argument. You either succeed, or you fail. Sehwag in his case.. failed. He didn't fulfill his duty as an opener in those conditions, hence he is a failure against swing and seam bowling. That's all there's to it.
NZ is not a swing and seam country. You are just making up stuff. On day one on some pitches in certain time of the year it swings. SamEven in England it doesn’t swing everywhere. May I know why Viru has poor record in bd. Must be swinging and seaming. Lol broabrushung all pitches in those countries is nothing short of poor argument.
 
NZ is not a swing and seam country. You are just making up stuff. On day one on some pitches in certain time of the year it swings. SamEven in England it doesn’t swing everywhere. May I know why Viru has poor record in bd. Must be swinging and seaming. Lol broabrushung all pitches in those countries is nothing short of poor argument.

Well first things first.. pitches don't swing. Swing is in the air. It seams off the pitch. Secondly, if NZ is not a swing and seam country then there is no swing and seam country in cricket. Your assertion that NZ conditions aren't known for swing and seam is honestly the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard on this website tbh. It's akin to saying Indian pitches don't assist spin.
 
NZ is not a swing and seam country. You are just making up stuff. On day one on some pitches in certain time of the year it swings. SamEven in England it doesn’t swing everywhere. May I know why Viru has poor record in bd. Must be swinging and seaming. Lol broabrushung all pitches in those countries is nothing short of poor argument.

If NZ is not a swing and seam country then there is no swing and seam country in cricket. Your assertion that NZ conditions aren't known for swing and seam is honestly the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard on this website tbh. It's akin to saying Indian pitches don't assist spin.
 
If NZ is not a swing and seam country then there is no swing and seam country in cricket. Your assertion that NZ conditions aren't known for swing and seam is honestly the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard on this website tbh. It's akin to saying Indian pitches don't assist spin.

So all those who good records in NZ are exponents and swing and seam bowling? lol On day one on certain pitches any bowler will wreak havoc. It will get better and better that you can bat all day on day 5. Sorry man. Your knowledge about conditions in various countries is really sub par. Should have known moment you said England, NZ are tough place to score runs lol. Amit Mishra might consider himself a great player against swing bowling. So will Kumble, Agarkar
 
So all those who good records in NZ are exponents and swing and seam bowling? lol On day one on certain pitches any bowler will wreak havoc. It will get better and better that you can bat all day on day 5. Sorry man. Your knowledge about conditions in various countries is really sub par. Should have known moment you said England, NZ are tough place to score runs lol. Amit Mishra might consider himself a great player against swing bowling. So will Kumble, Agarkar

I said England, NZ and SA are known predominantly for swinging and seaming conditions, which is a fact. Sehwag did indeed find it difficult to score runs there averaging in the mid 20s, hence he is a bad player against swing and seam bowling. Of course someone good against swing and seam bowling wouldn't find it difficult to score runs in those conditions. Duh.
 
Lara only played 3 tests in India. Hardly a sample size to draw any conclusions.
 
yet many indian fans defend kholi's performance in england by saying it was only 5 matches.

Lara averaged 33 in India. At worst it was below average as per his standards. Kohli averaged 13, that's tailender-esque. No comparison.
 
Comparing Kohli to Lara is beyond a joke. Lara is likely the best test bat of the last 50 years. At worst he is 2nd to Viv. :lara
 
Which test match that he played had those conditions. Let me see who else did well in that match. Kings mead 1996 that is the craziest swinging condition I have ever seen in mylife for an India match. India all out for 100 & 66. Dravidi put up a fight in the 2nd with 27 not out. Everyone else failed.
 
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His preference seems to have changed slightly in a span of 10 years.

Shane Warne's list of greatest cricketers
1 Sachin Tendulkar 2 Brian Lara 3 Curtly Ambrose 4 Allan Border 5 Glenn McGrath 6 Wasim Akram 7 Muttiah Muralitharan 8 Ricky Ponting 9 Mark Taylor 10 Ian Healy 11 Courtney Walsh 12 Mark Waugh 13 Anil Kumble 14 Rahul Dravid 15 Graham Gooch 16 Andrew Flintoff 17 Matthew Hayden 18 Merv Hughes 19 Aravinda de Silva 20 Adam Gilchrist 21 David Boon 22 Martin Crowe 23 Stephen Fleming 24 Brett Lee 25 Darren Lehmann 26 Steve Waugh 27 Jacques Kallis/ Shaun Pollock 28 Saeed Anwar/ Mohammad Yousuf 29 Shoaib Akhtar/ Craig McDermott 30 Kevin Pietersen 31 Tim May 32 Robin Smith 33 Allan Donald 34 Bruce Reid 35 Michael Vaughan 36 Andy Flower 37 Stephen Harmison 38 Sanath Jayasuriya 39 Stuart MacGill 40 Kapil Dev 41 Justin Langer 42 Ravi Shastri 43 Michael Atherton 44 Alec Stewart 45 Waqar Younis 46 Dilip Vengsarkar 47 Chris Cairns 48 Brian McMillan 49 Darren Berry 50 Jamie Siddons
He was still playing IPL in these days...
 
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A ranking where you won't be having a couple of modern day players won't be cared by anyone.

So good job by Warne for picking ABDV, Kohli and Smith. These three and Amla are clearly the best players from current era.

He missed some big names though.
 
Do I see people saying Lara was bad against spin? Lol Lara was one of the best players against spin bowling the world has ever seen.. These lists are subjective all top names in it so no surprise..
 
Top 10 batsmen I have watched play ever:-

Tendulkar(IND)
Lara(WI)
Ponting(Aus)
Sangakkara(SL)
Kallis(SA)
Dravid(IND)
S Waugh(Aus)
Kohli(IND)
de Villiers(SA)
Smith(Aus)

Australia- 3
India- 3
SA- 2
WI- 1
SL- 1
 
Well Kohli has corrected his record in England so it will be interesting to see who Warne rates higher now.
 
AB had the potential to be an ATG and could have been sitting up there with lara and co but couple of generations will pass by, few will remember his name. He has not done justice to his name and skills/talent.
 
AB had the potential to be an ATG and could have been sitting up there with lara and co but couple of generations will pass by, few will remember his name. He has not done justice to his name and skills/talent.

AB had potential to be GOAT. Nevermind, he is still an ATG, A SA great in test and bonafide ATG in ODIs.
 
'On a ventilator': Shane Warne opens up on battle with Covid-19

Shane Warne has opened up on his battle with Covid-19, revealing he was placed on a ventilator for a short period after being diagnosed.

The Aussie cricket legend tested positive for Covid-19 last month while in England coaching the London Spirit in the new limited-overs competition The Hundred.

Warne has since opened up about contracting the virus, which occurred even though he was fully vaccinated.

“It was a bit like a hangover, I had a pounding headache,” he told the Herald Sun.

“The first couple of days, when I tested positive, I just had a thumping headache and I had one day where I had the shivers, but (was) sweating, like when you have the flu.

“I lost a bit of sense of taste for a few days, but after three or four days I was fine.

“I have apparently got the holy grail. I have been double vaccinated and I have had Covid, so I am meant to be absolutely fine now.”

The 52-year-old made the staggering admission that he was placed on a ventilator to ensure he didn't suffer any lingering effects of the virus.

“It wasn’t because I could not breathe, or anything like that, it was basically a special ventilator that I was trialling to make sure there were no longer-lasting effects that Covid would have on me," he said.

“I have been fine, I have been able to run, I have been able to do everything. I have been absolutely fine.”

Shane Warne praises UK's approach to Covid-19 battle
Warne was forced to miss the Spirit's clash with Southern Brave after he was one of two members of the team's coaching staff to test positive.

The former Test star was the head coach of the men's team for the Lord's-based franchise.

"London Spirit men's head coach Shane Warne will be absent from today's match against Southern Brave at Lord's," the team announced at the time.

"After feeling unwell this morning, Shane returned a positive lateral flow test and will isolate from the squad and support staff whilst he awaits PCR results.

"A second member of the team management is self-isolating after also returning a positive test.

"No players have been impacted."

Shane Warne, pictured here during the fourth Test between England and India at The Oval.
Warne had previously praised the UK for “learning to live” with coronavirus and said Australia should adopt a similar approach rather than trying to eliminate it.

“I’ve been here for a few weeks and the country just opened up and they’re having 50,000 odd cases a day but they’re learning to live with it,” Warne told Sky News Australia.

“It’s been really interesting to watch how they’ve done it ... it’s a very interesting time over here and watching how it all works.

“I think it’s just a matter of getting on with it, get you double vax and get on and learn to live with it.

“No one over here wants to be locked down down anymore ... it’s been so tough, I think they’ve just said enough’s enough.”

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/cricket-2021-shane-warne-details-battle-covid-19-210529388.html
 
Shane Warne has confirmed that he would be interested in taking over the role of England men’s head coach, which is currently vacant.

“I’d like to do it, it’s a great time to be England coach,” he said on the Sky Sports Cricket Podcast. “I think I’d do a pretty good job, there’s a lot to work with. There are so many good players in England and a lot of depth, but you’ve got to get some of the basics right. You can’t bowl no-balls and drop so many catches, but you’ve got the players, they’re just not performing.”
 
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