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Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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waqar_ahmad said:
He was playing well. Looked comfy.

But what the hell was that shot? I mean he is there coz of his experience supposedly. That was not a shot of an experienced batter. All he needed was to take a single
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Typical Malik, looks comfy till he gets to 20 and then bottles it as usual!
 
He need to play at #4, best batsman to play up the order.

No use at #6 as one out and he got to play with Tail.

This discussion was suited for "SM performance log thread" but unfortunately thats closed.
 
Anwaar said:
He need to play at #4, best batsman to play up the order.

No use at #6 as one out and he got to play with Tail.

This discussion was suited for "SM performance log thread" but unfortunately thats closed.
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Best batsmen to play at 4? :))) based on what? Delusion?
 
Anwaar said:
He need to play at #4, best batsman to play up the order.

No use at #6 as one out and he got to play with Tail.

This discussion was suited for "SM performance log thread" but unfortunately thats closed.
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HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD! Buddy you are priceless!!! MR experienced test batsman has to play at a certain position only. thats test batsmen for you.....right. hahahaha oh God. Thanks man, seriously, was having a bad day at work and thats just awesome. You are priceless... or Sania Mirza in disguise. either one.
 
Shoaib Malik Missing from the Team Hotel

From our special correspondent - Samad Bond

Our correspondent travelling with the Pak Cricket Team and has reported that Shoaib Malik did not showed up on the team bus departing for the 2nd day at Headingly. After a search, he was found hiding behind the sofa in his room. A source inside the team revealed that he was not willing to travel to the ground and complain about having a "Seam-O-Phobia" attack. After a check, doctors confirmed this and advised the team management to dose him with couple of shots of Taquilaa if they really wanted him to bat today on a Headingly seaming pitch. Maliks spoke person Mr Anwar Sialkoti denied this report and said Malik is the best statistical batsman pakistan ever had and he will prove this with his performance today.

Report filed before the start of 2nd day.
 
Anwaar said:
He need to play at #4, best batsman to play up the order.

No use at #6 as one out and he got to play with Tail.

This discussion was suited for "SM performance log thread" but unfortunately thats closed.
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*lack of performance log thread

^^ and lol
 
Is it possible for a cricket player to take retirement from playing in certain countries like Australia, England, New Zealand and S.Africa. I remember Richard Headly in his last few years declined to travel to pakistan for some medical reasons (some type of skin disease which agravates due to hot weather), but people suspected the unfriendly pitches for fast bowler (like in faisalabad) for the reason behind this decision.

If this is possible, Malik should seriously think about this. He is best suited for pitches in the Sub-continent and will always be a suspect on fast bowling friendly pitches. This will improve his chances of prolonging his carreer.
 
Sohail Khan said:
If this is possible, Malik should seriously think about this. He is best suited for pitches in the Sub-continent and will always be a suspect on fast bowling friendly pitches.
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He looked as comfortable as anybody else in the team did tbh
 
He has defended very well, and looked comfortable against pacers. I don't understand with people frustration. He was left with tailenders instead, and needed to generate boundaries before the team get dismissed. But he couldn't connect the ball for trying to hit. If he has had proper batsman on the crease to build the partnership with, he would be there and he certainly was. People blamed him in the past for not trying to hit when he was only batsman left and was left with tailenders and now, he was forced to hit which he did according to the situation. I guess the 'hater' (I am afraid so) will never be satisfied. Don't forget it's his Test match after so long.
 
MalikMohsin said:
I don't understand with people frustration. He was left with tailenders instead, and needed to generate boundaries before the team get dismissed. But he couldn't connect the ball for trying to hit. If he has had proper batsman on the crease to build the partnership with, he would be there and he certainly was.
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If he was the last man out or remained not out, I'd believe you. As it is, this is a lame excuse.
MalikMohsin said:
People blamed him in the past for not trying to hit when he was only batsman left and was left with tailenders and now
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You just made it up, didn't you? Nice try nevertheless.
 
taaveez said:
If he was the last man out or remained not out, I'd believe you. As it is, this is a lame excuse.

You just made it up, didn't you? Nice try nevertheless.
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Check Sri Lanka Test series 2009. Where the team was dismissed at 90 or something like that. Malik was only batsman remained unbeaten. He has scored 45 - NOT OUT.

I suppose you can check it the archived in cricinfo. :)
 
Malik was looking good, but then again theres just no temperament there

Our whole team is too susceptible to brain farts.
 
MalikMohsin said:
Check Sri Lanka Test series 2009. Where the team was dismissed at 90 or something like that. Malik was only batsman remained unbeaten. He has scored 45 - NOT OUT.

I suppose you can check it the archived in cricinfo. :)
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Well, this isn't against Sri Lanka, and this isn't subcontinental pitches. And why should I check another occasion if, right here right now, he has already given us the proof?
 
taaveez said:
Well, this isn't against Sri Lanka, and this isn't subcontinental pitches. And why should I check another occasion if, right here right now, he has already given us the proof?
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Subcontinent pitches? Why the whole team including Yousuf/Yousus was dismissed at 90? Why was Malik criticized? You wanna know. Because he wasn't trying to hit when the team was in one short of wicket to get dismissed. People accused him of playing for himself than the team. This time he has played for the team, and when needed to stay at the crease, he did, and when needed to hit, he did. Sadly, he couldn't connect the ball properly when tried to hit. Nevertheless, he was doing fine. Perhaps, you should watch Test cricket rather than follow the scorecard. Look can be deceiving while following the scorecard. People don't even remember he is playing his first Test match after a long time.
 
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Malik looks in extremely good touch...Can't blame him for his dismissal either...

I'd like to see him bat higher up the order, perhaps at number 4...
 
IMMY69 said:
Malik looks in extremely good touch...Can't blame him for his dismissal either...

I'd like to see him bat higher up the order, perhaps at number 4...
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Yes, thats what I was trying to say.
at #6, one player out and your are with long tail.
and what options do you have when Dani is on next end asif is the next player in.

SM and coaches need to talk to him and assure him that he will be persisted at $4 for next 7/8 matches.
 
Anwaar said:
Yes, thats what I was trying to say.
at #6, one player out and your are with long tail.
and what options do you have when Dani is on next end asif is the next player in.

SM and coaches need to talk to him and assure him that he will be persisted at $4 for next 7/8 matches.
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I'm not sure about being talked into batting at number 4 or that he has to be told that he'll be persisted with for next 7/8 matches...

When you're in form you simply have to cash in and at number 4 he should be able to stop the rot and score heavily...If he does this then he'll automatically cement his place at that position...
 
Anwaar said:
Yes, thats what I was trying to say.
at #6, one player out and your are with long tail.
and what options do you have when Dani is on next end asif is the next player in.

SM and coaches need to talk to him and assure him that he will be persisted at $4 for next 7/8 matches.
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Malik fans are proposing to have him bat @ number 4 to utilize his best talent. Did anyone asked Malik where actually Mr. Dependable would like to bat. Once we have his preference, we can work around the postions for all the other batters in the team. What a talent!!!!!!

What I know from his past interviews on the topic he always prefer to come lower in the batting order. Not doubt about this, because this is the time in the match where you have spinners bowling and he can play them a lot better than he plays fast bowling. Plus he can hide behind the tail enders and blame them of not supporting him to score higher than 20-30's which he usually score.
 
Sohail Khan said:
What I know from his past interviews on the topic he always prefer to come lower in the batting order.
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I assure you that you missed few of his interviews.
Those were to clear the air about his reluctance to bat up the order.
 
Once upon a time, there was a legend.
In his last three matches he scored:

22
61


46
19


7
23

Avg: 29.66


And we saw on PP, "people" defending him like crazy.

And following were their "justifications":

- He looked good
- He was timing the balls sweet.
- All his shots were from middle of his bats.
etc.

Then they wanted us to "ignore" the "then misleading"
Today, for SM "they" have set a different benchmark.

They may have look if they are not committing hypocrisy.

My stand about SM is that he should get average of around ~ 42 after 10 innings in UK.
To early to crucify him.
 
Anwaar said:
I assure you that you missed few of his interviews.
Those were to clear the air about his reluctance to bat up the order.
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For how long we keep finding excuses or justifications for his selection in the Test team. I for one have no problem playing him in ODI's and T20's specially on sub continent pitches. But for test cricket we should have better options.
 
Anwaar said:
Once upon a time, there was a legend.
In his last three matches he scored:

...blah, blah, blah.....

To early to crucify him.
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Once upon a time and then always after, there was a below average batsman. He averaged 36 after 29 odd tests, and still scored 26 in his 30th.

Too much chances provided to the wrong player. Time to kick him out, and bring in a proper 6th batsman.
 
Sohail Khan said:
For how long we keep finding excuses or justifications for his selection in the Test team. I for one have no problem playing him in ODI's and T20's specially on sub continent pitches. But for test cricket we should have better options.
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He is picked on merit.
no need for excuses.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Best batsmen to play at 4? :))) based on what? Delusion?
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Instead of chatting absolute CRAP about Malik, why don't you just pick on someone else? Your a disgrace!
Sarcasm instead of constructive criticism or even dare I say it PRAISE for one of the only batsmen to go out there in a Test Match mindset. Open your eyes son, there's no one out there who would do any better and is a better all round cricketer.
 
taaveez said:
Once upon a time and then always after, there was a below average batsman. He averaged 36 after 29 odd tests, and still scored 26 in his 30th.

Too much chances provided to the wrong player. Time to kick him out, and bring in a proper 6th batsman.
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Which proper 6th batsman? Why don't you give names to justify your so called opinions?
 
BoomBoomAli said:
Which proper 6th batsman? Why don't you give names to justify your so called opinions?
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Here's my official playing VI for this tour:
Butt
Azhar
YK
MoYo
Amin
U Akmal

Reserves (or if you want to go beyond this tour):

F Alam
A Shafiq
N Yasin
A Ghumman

Plus a couple of other names I'm forgetting
 
BoomBoomAli said:
Instead of chatting absolute CRAP about Malik, why don't you just pick on someone else? Your a disgrace!
Sarcasm instead of constructive criticism or even dare I say it PRAISE for one of the only batsmen to go out there in a Test Match mindset. Open your eyes son, there's no one out there who would do any better and is a better all round cricketer.
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Great , now malik fans are treating AJ like a kid with no real cricketing sense.....yet they support malik in tests and believe a guy who got out for 26 in a test match did well.......the irony.

"Theres no one out there who would do any better"........thats true, I wonder if any pakistani has scored higher than 26 in a test before. Anwaar can you please caclulate the correlation coefficient and let me know?
 
cornelius said:
HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD! Buddy you are priceless!!! MR experienced test batsman has to play at a certain position only. thats test batsmen for you.....right. hahahaha oh God. Thanks man, seriously, was having a bad day at work and thats just awesome. You are priceless... or Sania Mirza in disguise. either one.
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Its probably Shoaib Malik himself posting in disguise! :)))
 
BoomBoomAli said:
Instead of chatting absolute CRAP about Malik, why don't you just pick on someone else? Your a disgrace!
Sarcasm instead of constructive criticism or even dare I say it PRAISE for one of the only batsmen to go out there in a Test Match mindset. Open your eyes son, there's no one out there who would do any better and is a better all round cricketer.
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I suggest you read other parts of this thread where ive highlighted Maliks short comings.

Malik has played 30 tests and only team he performs against is Sri lanka.

In 9 tests v Sri Lanka

15 inns 3 N.o 717 runs 59.75 ave -- (3 x 50) (2 x 100)

Against the rest

34 inns 3 N.O 826 runs 26.65 ave -- (5 x 50)

So an average of 26.65 against anyone barring Sri lanka is great is it?

No one would do better? Based on what? why not give some one else a chance to prove themselves.

Better all round cricketer? Why is he that good with the Ball.

Is my response constructive enough for you?

Maybe you should be the one who opens there eyes!

:)
 
cornelius said:
Great , now malik fans are treating AJ like a kid with no real cricketing sense.....yet they support malik in tests and believe a guy who got out for 26 in a test match did well.......the irony.

"Theres no one out there who would do any better"........thats true, I wonder if any pakistani has scored higher than 26 in a test before. Anwaar can you please caclulate the correlation coefficient and let me know?
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Its fine, If PPers want to selectively read posts on threads and live off delusion i have no issues.

Thanks for Support! :)
 
taaveez said:
Now, this is amusing. Can we blame MoYo for the dismissal instead?
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I'm usisng a different tact - there is no arguing with Anwaar so I've decided to support Malik until the end of this tour and then throw his overall stats right back at him so that once and for all he'll wake up and accept that Malik is no test match batsman...

But I cant keep up the pretence for any longer!!!
 
Malik seems to be the most talked about cricketer on this forum, or definitely one of the top 3 most talked about cricketers here. A case of love him, hate him can't ignore him really. ahh, entertaining.
 
cryptkeeper* said:
Malik seems to be the most talked about cricketer on this forum, or definitely one of the top 3 most talked about cricketers here. A case of love him, hate him can't ignore him really. ahh, entertaining.
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misunderstood cricketer, and people have found him a convenient target since he is not one to make statements in the media or create a scene, like the other more celebrated players.
 
after repeated badgering by Yousuf over a couple of years.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Its fine, If PPers want to selectively read posts on threads and live off delusion i have no issues.

Thanks for Support! :)
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You remind me of Sir Alex Ferguson with Sam Allardyce as his little trash talker, Stats, Stats and more Stats. They aren't everything, in a series where we have a very limited and inexperienced middle order you'd like to imbalance it further by bringing in another youngster :inzi.

I cant understand the logic, I'm open minded about selection but would much rather see Malik in there at this time due to all the uncertainty.
I will predict something right now - Malik will get a Ton in one of the England Tests as long as there is someone with him to give him enough time :umarakmal.
 
Sohail Khan said:
Mrs Firdous Awan perchee is what you call Merit. Than I don't disagree with you. This is how things in Pakistan operate.
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No one cares about Minister of population. Malik used his link to PM to get his ban turned.

But selection to squad and then to playing 11 has nothing to do with it.
 
Anwaar said:
No one cares about Minister of population. Malik used his link to PM to get his ban turned.

But selection to squad and then to playing 11 has nothing to do with it.
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Correct, has to do with Butt and Yawar
 
Amjid Javed said:
I suggest you read other parts of this thread where ive highlighted Maliks short comings.

Malik has played 30 tests and only team he performs against is Sri lanka.

In 9 tests v Sri Lanka

15 inns 3 N.o 717 runs 59.75 ave -- (3 x 50) (2 x 100)

Against the rest

34 inns 3 N.O 826 runs 26.65 ave -- (5 x 50)

So an average of 26.65 against anyone barring Sri lanka is great is it?

No one would do better? Based on what? why not give some one else a chance to prove themselves.

Better all round cricketer? Why is he that good with the Ball.

Is my response constructive enough for you?

Maybe you should be the one who opens there eyes!

:)
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One side you giving stats against one country and on other hand presenting stats against 7 countries. Its not a valid comparison for so many reasons.

Like you wanted to convey that SM is great only against Sri Lanka and sucked against everybody else. Well there is a surprise for you.

Here is the averages of Pakistani batsmen against SA and you know what Malik's average is much much higher than "Great" MoYo.
Even Inzi would wish for SM's average against SA.

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So the Myth that SM is great only against SL is broken!
 
those stats are out of context...look whos at the top for Gods sake..also how many of those matches were in pakistan? and how ironic that YK is above moon again..lol..

as for the cant say anything in front of the media..well he's not exactly the most eloquent at the best of times, but I think he'd rather to those things behind peoples back..lol..

according to Anwaar malik is a better batsman than four Pakistani legends..lol..man ive met fanboys but this is just worship of the mindless type!!...
 
IMMY69 said:
I'm usisng a different tact - there is no arguing with Anwaar so I've decided to support Malik until the end of this tour and then throw his overall stats right back at him so that once and for all he'll wake up and accept that Malik is no test match batsman...

But I cant keep up the pretence for any longer!!!
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lol..give up dude, he'll create a new statistical system just for his pir!!
 
the Great Khan said:
those stats are out of context...look whos at the top for Gods sake..also how many of those matches were in pakistan? and how ironic that YK is above moon again..lol..

as for the cant say anything in front of the media..well he's not exactly the most eloquent at the best of times, but I think he'd rather to those things behind peoples back..lol..

according to Anwaar malik is a better batsman than four Pakistani legends..lol..man ive met fanboys but this is just worship of the mindless type!!...
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Well, permit me to say that your post is out of context here.

This is in reply of iafzal post which gave perception that SM was only great against SL and nothing against rest. He tried to trick the innocents but thats why here we are to to present clear crystal picture.

- Well Azhar had that run when bob was SA's coach and was so impressed with Azhar that Bob tried to bring Azhar back when he was our coach...but by then it was too late.
- YK is just 1.5 point above SM, not big difference between "great" and "crap"
- Re: Pakistani legends, I am extremely careful giving titles like "Class", "great"or "legend" and thats my advice for others.
 
I don't know any stats but best inning by a Pakistani against SA was saeed anwars 118 at durban 98 one of the rare tests we won there.
 
saeed-sohail said:
I don't know any stats but best inning by a Pakistani against SA was saeed anwars 118 at durban 98 one of the rare tests we won there.
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When we appreciate for good innings then we must also acknowledge bad innings also. If good innings contribute toward wins then bad innings contribute towards loss.

Still I believe he was one of the bravest Pakistani players (i.e Qasim Umer, Sohail, Saleem Yousaf etc.)

these are his innings against SA:
3 good scores out of 12 (25% success rate)

2
1
16
4
17
3
0
2
43
118
18
55
 
I present to you three numbers:

Malik - 36
YK - 50
MoYo - 53

Now, you could use all kinds of distortions to make 36 look better than 50 or 53 - such as 36 is closer to no 1 than 50 or 53 will ever be - but then you could also contribute something useful to the society.
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I present to you three numbers:

Malik - 36
YK - 50
MoYo - 53

Now, you could use all kinds of distortions to make 36 look better than 50 or 53 - such as 36 is closer to no 1 than 50 or 53 will ever be - but then you could also contribute something useful to the society.
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Anwaar said:
When we appreciate for good innings then we must also acknowledge bad innings also. If good innings contribute toward wins then bad innings contribute towards loss.

Still I believe he was one of the bravest Pakistani players (i.e Qasim Umer, Sohail, Saleem Yousaf etc.)

these are his innings against SA:
3 good scores out of 12 (25% success rate)

2
1
16
4
17
3
0
2
43
118
18
55
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97 home series he could not buy a run for some reason.May be captaincy got better of him.
 
taaveez said:
I present to you three numbers:

Malik - 36
YK - 50
MoYo - 53

Now, you could use all kinds of distortions to make 36 look better than 50 or 53 - such as 36 is closer to no 1 than 50 or 53 will ever be - but then you could also contribute something useful to the society.
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Duplicate post.

Maybe you have not noticed, I tried to address iafzal's objection regarding SM so absolutely no reason to be jumpy.

P.S. MoYo sucks against SA. (Avg. below 30)
 
Anwaar said:
Still he made 300 as captain.

Then Lahore incident, Gap, too many other issues...
I'll say, victim of circumstances.
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Chalo Anwar Bhai aap bolte ho tou main maan jaataa hoon. Sometime we cause our own demise too. Time will tell.
 
He started out good, gave us a T20 win also. Then things got bigger for him. He started to feel he was way above anyone, and therefore his downfall.
 
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