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Shoaib Malik Support & Performance Watch

Should Malik be in the plans for the 2019 WC?

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The so called "Chairh Chaarh" is already happening in the batting order! It's being done by Malik, who can't even take a single against a spin bowling, something he's apparently good at negating.
 
W63L35 said:
Get ready for disgrace then .... Misbah has already said .... "we are not going to panic with one loss and start making changes to the batting order"!
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This stupidity will cause his captaincy even though he keeps scoring.

Time to panic for the fans.
 
Malik surely must be embarrassed what purpose is he serving in the team.......at no. 6 which is sych a crucial postion where some of players have made their mark and are regarded as Legends .......Bevan Hussey but he is absolutely inept can't play spin can't play pace can't play slower balls........:facepalm
 
One of the worst players to be picked for 30+ Tests.

A tried and tested failure who should be binned forever.
 
still waiting for a reasonable rebuttal to the point that he has the highest avg for Pakistan in wins since Jan 01, 2012.

#6/7 batsman is not to set the foundation of the innings...if you want him to play that role then beg misbah to play him up (and also needs to move kami up)
 
Black Zero... the guy has a friggin high score of 43 (even that against Irish) since his comeback with an average under 20... why do you not consider that?
 
Black Zero said:
during last 12 months (overall stats):

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting


Malik and Kami both better than:

hafeez (by 3+ point)
Umer Akmal (by 3+points)
Asad Shafiq (by 4 points)
YK (by 11+ points)
Afridi (by 12+ points)


I would see its obvious that criticism is based on ignorance (or habit).
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care to share his average after his comeback? 30.28 is not a great average anyway, and before you use the batting position excuse, batsmen like Dhoni average in the 50s batting in the very same positions.
 
Black Zero said:
during last 12 months (overall stats):

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting


Malik and Kami both better than:

hafeez (by 3+ point)
Umer Akmal (by 3+points)
Asad Shafiq (by 4 points)
YK (by 11+ points)
Afridi (by 12+ points)


I would see its obvious that criticism is based on ignorance (or habit).
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First things first, we remove the innings Vs minnows. and Even then he only averages 28 which is largely inflated by his 3 NOs a result of batting low. I wish he did bat higher because that would just expose his weaknesses more and would not let him hide behind a bloated average
 
HamzaSaeen said:
care to share his average after his comeback? 30.28 is not a great average anyway, and before you use the batting position excuse, batsmen like Dhoni average in the 50s batting in the very same positions.
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who said it's great?

its still better than the players i mentioned...

avg over last 12 months is an agreed barometer to determine the form (and/or performance)

dhoni plays on dead tracks (and small boundaries) and both teams score around 300+ (but this is a different debate)
 
Black Zero said:
who said it's great?

its still better than the players i mentioned...

avg over last 12 months is an agreed barometer to determine the form (and/or performance)

dhoni plays on dead tracks (and small boundaries) and both teams score around 300+ (but this is a different debate)
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Malik doesn't play on dead tracks in UAE with small boundaries?
 
Pak_legend said:
First things first, we remove the innings Vs minnows. and Even then he only averages 28 which is largely inflated by his 3 NOs a result of batting low. I wish he did bat higher because that would just expose his weaknesses more and would not let him hide behind a bloated average
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please be clear what you want from him?

score 50 and get out?
 
Black Zero said:
during last 12 months (overall stats):

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...al1=span;team=7;template=results;type=batting


Malik and Kami both better than:

hafeez (by 3+ point)
Umer Akmal (by 3+points)
Asad Shafiq (by 4 points)
YK (by 11+ points)
Afridi (by 12+ points)


I would see its obvious that criticism is based on ignorance (or habit).
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Hafeez ranked as 4th best ODI bowler in the world. So get's in to the team based purely on bowling. Should be batting lower down.

YK and Africi rightfully dropped.

Malik has a decade of experience over Akmal and Shafiq, who are starting there careers in the most turbulent time for Pakistan and have never even played in Pakistan.
 
Black Zero said:
dhoni plays on dead tracks (and small boundaries) and both teams score around 300+ (but this is a different debate)
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It's not a chicken and egg story, we score 300 because of Dhoni's contribution. Dhoni comes first, and the 300 ODI score follows.

If we hypothetically slot Malik into our batting order in Dhoni's place, he'll be turning in the wind and mess up a decent platform to get us to a far lower score. And whilst doing so, he'll unravel a plethora of demons in the pitch, and invisible grass leading to seam, swing and devilish turn. On top of which he's a dud in the field and can't bowl for nuts.

In other words, can your argument Shoaib. You need another job.
 
Varun said:
It's not a chicken and egg story, we score 300 because of Dhoni's contribution. Dhoni comes first, and the 300 ODI score follows.

If we hypothetically slot Malik into our batting order in Dhoni's place, he'll be turning in the wind and mess up a decent platform to get us to a far lower score. And whilst doing so, he'll unravel a plethora of demons in the pitch, and invisible grass leading to seam, swing and devilish turn. On top of which he's a dud in the field and can't bowl for nuts.

In other words, can your argument Shoaib. You need another job.
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Pakistan just defeated India in India!
and Malik avg 50+ vs India (and this is not a hypothetical)
 
miandadrules said:
Maybe. I'm obviously not as intelligent as you.

.
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You can ask someone (hint: BZ) to help you out...

what maybe?

You raised the objection and when I answered you trying to escape (as usual)?

show some moral courage .... and accept the numbers..
 
BZ - malik is awesome when playing against IND, i do accept it but has totally failed against other opponents, it's better for your team if some youngster is given a chance keeping in mind 2015 wc
 
miandadrules said:
Hafeez ranked as 4th best ODI bowler in the world. So get's in to the team based purely on bowling. Should be batting lower down.

YK and Africi rightfully dropped.

Malik has a decade of experience over Akmal and Shafiq, who are starting there careers in the most turbulent time for Pakistan and have never even played in Pakistan.
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- I mentioned YK and Afridi as their fans are mourning ...
- If Hafeez is playing as a bowler, then please ask him to bat in lower order(as you said). He is spoiling the game plan. However, he is playing in top order so he must face the criticism.
- Both are with team for looooooooooooooong time, during last three years, Malik played 24 odis, Asad 40 and UA: 56
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
BZ - malik is awesome when playing against IND, i do accept it but has totally failed against other opponents, it's better for your team if some youngster is given a chance keeping in mind 2015 wc
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he is the core reason behind our recent wins
he avg 75+ in wins during last ~18 months

and if we compare overall avgs, he is better than most of our top order..
 
Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Kami
Jamshed
X(1)
Misbah
Akmal
X(2)
Hafeez
X(3)
Junaid
Ajmal
Irfan


X (1)
Azhar
Shafiq
Shahzad

X (2)
Fawad
Shafiq
Harris
Amin

X (3)
Gul
Riaz
Afridi


No space for Malik. ...

Certified TTF with a career average of 33 as a full time batter.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
Kami
Jamshed
X(1)
Misbah
Akmal
X(2)
Hafeez
X(3)
Junaid
Ajmal
Irfan


X (1)
Azhar
Shafiq
Shahzad

X (2)
Fawad
Shafiq
Harris
Amin

X (3)
Gul
Riaz
Afridi


No space for Malik. ...

Certified TTF with a career average of 33 as a full time batter.
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this thread is not about "pick your team"

I forwarded your list to pcb...
pcb forwarded it to a board of psychiatrists..
they might send you a certificate
 
Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Black Zero said:
this thread is not about "pick your team"

I forwarded your list to pcb...
pcb forwarded it to a board of psychiatrists..
they might send you a certificate
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This thread is about whether Malik should be in or out.

Unfortunately by being a TTF with a career average of 33 (ignoring his record for the last 3 years)..... He's out. :)


You can talk to PCB or Psychiatrists as much as u want but it won't change that fact.


Don't you feel embarrassed at supporting a full time batter with a career average of 33 over 10 years of batting?
 
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MR__KHAN__JI said:
This thread is about whether Malik should be in or out.

Unfortunately by being a TTF with a career average of 33 (ignoring his record for the last 3 years)..... He's out. :)


You can talk to PCB or Psychiatrists as much as u want but it won't change that fact.
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last time i checked, Malik is playing ..its a fact..

your team (/teams with xyz) is just a fantasy...this is also a fact...
 
Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Black Zero said:
last time i checked, Malik is playing ..its a fact..

your team (/teams with xyz) is just a fantasy...this is also a fact...
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And ur point is?


The only relevant fact is that he is playing with a career average of 33 after over 200 games.....
Its embarrassing.

It's more embarrassing to be promoting that.
 
last 12 months, both malik and farhati are better than:

hafeez
umer akmal
asad

only nasir and misbah got better numbers
 
Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Black Zero said:
last 12 months, both malik and kami are better than:

hafeez
umer akmal
asad

only nasir and misbah got better numbers
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It doesn't matter as it didn't change the fact that he is a TTF.

He's still got a career average of 33 (and falling) after 200 games.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
It doesn't matter as it didn't change the fact that he is a TTF.

He's still got a career average of 33 (and falling) after 200 games.
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as i mentioned in earlier posts, calling fantasies facts mean nothing...

from wiki
Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by a deficit of typical emotional responses.[1] Common symptoms include auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction.
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thats all i can do for you...(in other words, no more time for you). thanks.
 
Re: The Shoaib Malik 'Support' Thread

Black Zero said:
as i mentioned in earlier posts, calling fantasies facts mean nothing...

from wiki


thats all i can do for you...(in other words, no more time for you). thanks.
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That's fine. .... people always run when a raw nerve is hit. ... :)


Supporting a TTF batter with a career average of 33 after over 200 games. ... :)
 
BZ your arguments are embarrassing. You talk about Maliks average in wins in last 18 months yet he has failed to score a single 50. If your only reason for Maliks inclusion is his average it shows how little you k now about cricket
 
Pak_legend said:
BZ your arguments are embarrassing. You talk about Maliks average in wins in last 18 months yet he has failed to score a single 50. If your only reason for Maliks inclusion is his average it shows how little you k now about cricket
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Just to point out that in none of those wins was he the main contributor or chief architect. He basically came in when the job was done.
 
miandadrules said:
Just to point out that in none of those wins was he the main contributor or chief architect. He basically came in when the job was done.
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and if you look at the individual innings that average is heavily inflated by not-outs- his highest score is 43 and how can he average 75+ in wins without a high number of not outs :facepalm: BZ defeats logic.
 
Players A - scores 1* in 99 innings and gets out for 1 in 100th innings

Player B - scores 95 in 100 innings and is out in all the innings.

By BZ logic Player A is better because he has a higher average
 
Pak_legend said:
Players A - scores 1* in 99 innings and gets out for 1 in 100th innings

Player B - scores 95 in 100 innings and is out in all the innings.

By BZ logic Player A is better because he has a higher average
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QQ: whats the result of these 100 matches? ...Thats important...
 
HamzaSaeen said:
and if you look at the individual innings that average is heavily inflated by not-outs- his highest score is 43 and how can he average 75+ in wins without a high number of not outs :facepalm: BZ defeats logic.
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I do not buy this moaning about bloating avg with NOs...

If NOs contributed towards wins...what else do you expect from a player?


if players plays for himself and just remain N.O. while team needs him to score at high SR then you might have a case...
thats avg in wins....75+ in wins in last 18 months

best for any Pakistani batsman
 
Pak_legend said:
By BZ logic Player A is better because he has a higher average
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Don't try to make any sense out of his logic.... because by his logic;

Malik is better test opener than Hanif.
Malik is better ODI captain than Imran.
Malik is 2nd best (after Inzi - ahead of Miandad, Zaheer, MoYo, Saeed Anwar etc) ODI batsman.
Sialkot is the best ever domestic side in the history of cricket - from all countries.
....
and many more...


Uss ki kis kis logic ko question karo gey??
 
Shoaib Malik is the best to ever stop onto the cricket field........................




to distribute chai to the players :malik
 
Black Zero said:
I do not buy this moaning about bloating avg with NOs...

If NOs contributed towards wins...what else do you expect from a player?


if players plays for himself and just remain N.O. while team needs him to score at high SR then you might have a case...
thats avg in wins....75+ in wins in last 18 months

best for any Pakistani batsman
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while having a high score of 43 its realistically impossible for shoaib to score 75 every match on average, its obvious the average has been bloated by NO's... buy it or not, look at the innings he has played since then and you will know yourself.
 
Can't make out whether this is all a giant troll by Black Zero or not.
 
I don't understand the fuss with Malik. His stats are still pretty impressive. In fact, his stats all-round plus fielding is even better than Hafeez. Out of the 2, I'd drop Hafeez for good and give Malik 1 long last chance. He should bat at number 4/5 and bowl his quotas in all forms. He's much more talented than Hafeez and Afridi.
 
Energetic said:
I don't understand the fuss with Malik. His stats are still pretty impressive. In fact, his stats all-round plus fielding is even better than Hafeez. Out of the 2, I'd drop Hafeez for good and give Malik 1 long last chance. He should bat at number 4/5 and bowl his quotas in all forms. He's much more talented than Hafeez and Afridi.
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The last time malik was bowling more than hafeez, Babar Azam was probably in his diapers
 
miandadrules said:
What's Pakistan win- loss ratio with and without Malik in the said period?
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are you satisfied with your earlier objection re: hanif?

lets resolve one issue before jumping to next...agree?

(regarding this point, Pak_legend is already engaged in discussion... )
 
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Black Zero said:
are you satisfied with your earlier objection re: hanif?

lets resolve one issue before jumping to next...agree?

(regarding this point, Pak_legend is already engaged in discussion... )
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What's Pakistan win- loss ratio with and without Malik in the said period?
 
Met the whole team at Edgbaston today. He alongside Wahab & Junaid has to be the nicest guy in the team. Farhat the worst!
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Why what was his behavior like?
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Malik came over and spent some time with the fans where most of the players walked off. He signed many autographs as did Junaid, Jamshed, Wahab & Irfan.

Farhat was called however he didn't go to a single fan. Just walked into the dressing room and said NO to everyone. Same with Shafiq, no interaction from him at all.
 
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