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Should IPL 2021 be Postponed Amid Rising Coronavirus Cases in India?

Should IPL 2021 be Postponed Amid Rising Coronavirus Cases in India?


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I dont know where are you from but every political party does rallies in India. TMC and Mamta Banerjee were doing mega rallies in bengal, even boasting the huge turnouts in social media. Priyanka Gandhi was promoting congress in Assam. Similarly, BJP was also doing their rallies. But you simply choose to pick BJP bcoz that suits the agenda and your dislike for the party.

And only people from RSS and Modi supporters attend kumbh mela? You do realize right that RSS and Modi has nothing to do with Kumbh Mela..lol :))

Just go and check the amount of effort RSS is putting in saving lives during this cricis by creating mass care centers across the country.

Brother i have nothing to do with these political parties....
But yes blame lies on BJP because it is a ruling party..so it has to take responsibility
 
In a country where election rallies are continuously going on (West Bengal) and PM of country leads them. Then how can you expect them to postpone IPL..

That's fair enough. Third world countries by their nature are used to disease and death, we are maybe looking at it through western lens when we expect sports events to take a break when the situation reaches a critical mass. It's a matter of ethics and support and empathy for the victims as much as anything else.
 
350K new cases 4 straight days of records being broken. Forget the IPL. The whole country needs to lockdown.
 
Before the IP started, at first it was a question of bio Secure environment and the logistical challenges of holding IPL. The crowds were kept out to reduce risk and BSE has been working well so far.

Midway through the tournament, the focus now has shifted more to ethics.
Some posters asking "how can anyone think of enjoying IPL when there are people not getting tested, suffering from lack of beds and oxygen and sick patients dying?"

Don't judge too quickly please but do introspect.

1) Don't you all think that why the second question was not raised first? In short, why ethics were not discussed when IPL was about to start? So are we all guilty of failing to recognise the danger of covid and being very sharp in hindsight now? Ok fine so we were not worried then because the cases were not that high.

2) hey, the Covid deaths were occuring since last one year too. Is there a threshold that 300k cases will qualify for your concern and you are not concerned if they were just 50k?
not very convincing for the person who had seen death of a near and dear one when the cases were less than 50k.

3) To draw a parallel, lots of people think India shouldn't send satellites into space as we still have some villages which lack electricity and clean water. This is advocating that "Do not aspire to progress in one field till you have achieved success in remaining fields". Does that sound logical to you? Progress has to be throttled somewhere so more can be done in other fields?
so by throttling IPL, do we suddenly get more Oxygen, more hospital beds or more testing kits?

4) Ok fine, it may sound heartless to watch and enjoy IPL because people are dying. Human values are far more important than anything. So, why not Aus, NZ, Eng, Pak and Zim, Ban, SL stop playing now to show solidarity with people dying. or it has to be done only where it occurs as others should not be bothered about it? Thats fine too. Why not practice what you preach

5) Should we say lets cancel all sporting events, all entertainment including TV, Movies, Music (none of them are essential services)? Most importantly, why apply ethics only to IPL (which is not causing further increase in cases)? Do it for elections as the election rallies are causing it. Do it for the Kumbh mela Markaz or anything religious because people contact is uncontrolled and risks are higher.

I am raising these questions not to play devils advocate. Just feel that it is our anguish speaking, we often are frustrated for right things but express over wrong things.
 
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People are going to restaurants or ordering In. Weddings are allowed with 50 guests.
Film or Serials shoots on, new series being released on OTT.
Millions are watching the IPL. You cannot make the choice and take away their right to watch IPL or any other entertainment.

If viewership falls, IPL will stop. Its certainly not the case.

Why talk about IPL only?

One can deny but there is a certain amount of frustration at PSL's failure and postponement and IPL's success till now to keep the show going. That's pretty evident on this thread.

What ppl suppose 2 do in unofficial lockdown Netflix wagera......
Those who r enjoying IPL let them enjoy......

Sympathy empathy is along lost word in ur land....
When a doctor supports such insane insensitive entertainment program......u know what is the situation of the medical system there...

Poor patients ....
 
Guys stay on Topic. Not an India vs Pakistan thread.
 
Please ensure there is no critical responses of the handling of the outbreak by the BJP. Everything is fine.

**The Indian government had earlier asked Twitter to take down dozens of tweets, including some by local lawmakers, that were critical of its handling of the outbreak. Twitter has withheld some of the tweets after the legal request by the Indian government**
 
Although from certain angles IPL may look insensitive, but there is a huge section of population using this IPL as a tool for some distraction,some solace from the disturbing events all around. I am all for IPL to continue as per schedule unless it directly interferes with the already crumbled healthcare eco-system; if it gives us a little glimmer of hope, a sense of normalcy (albeit false)!

Personally, I never used to follow IPL religiously.But after an exhausting day at the office (read- WFH), I have been looking forward to each match in the evening this season.

There are plenty of unsettling insensitive happenings in this vast overpopulated country; day in day out,covid or no covid. IPL during a pandemic is certainly not the worst thing that could happen here.

I am a covid survivor from the first wave. Lets see if I get infected again, my viewpoint changes or not. But I am sure, stopping IPL will not guarantee me an ICU bed or O2 cylinders.

Ofcourse, safety of the players comes first and it seems the bubble is working well so far. Hopefully, it stays that way.
 
Before the IP started, at first it was a question of bio Secure environment and the logistical challenges of holding IPL. The crowds were kept out to reduce risk and BSE has been working well so far.

Midway through the tournament, the focus now has shifted more to ethics.
Some posters asking "how can anyone think of enjoying IPL when there are people not getting tested, suffering from lack of beds and oxygen and sick patients dying?"

Don't judge too quickly please but do introspect.

1) Don't you all think that why the second question was not raised first? In short, why ethics were not discussed when IPL was about to start? So are we all guilty of failing to recognise the danger of covid and being very sharp in hindsight now? Ok fine so we were not worried then because the cases were not that high.

2) hey, the Covid deaths were occuring since last one year too. Is there a threshold that 300k cases will qualify for your concern and you are not concerned if they were just 50k?
not very convincing for the person who had seen death of a near and dear one when the cases were less than 50k.

3) To draw a parallel, lots of people think India shouldn't send satellites into space as we still have some villages which lack electricity and clean water. This is advocating that "Do not aspire to progress in one field till you have achieved success in remaining fields". Does that sound logical to you? Progress has to be throttled somewhere so more can be done in other fields?
so by throttling IPL, do we suddenly get more Oxygen, more hospital beds or more testing kits?

4) Ok fine, it may sound heartless to watch and enjoy IPL because people are dying. Human values are far more important than anything. So, why not Aus, NZ, Eng, Pak and Zim, Ban, SL stop playing now to show solidarity with people dying. or it has to be done only where it occurs as others should not be bothered about it? Thats fine too. Why not practice what you preach

5) Should we say lets cancel all sporting events, all entertainment including TV, Movies, Music (none of them are essential services)? Most importantly, why apply ethics only to IPL (which is not causing further increase in cases)? Do it for elections as the election rallies are causing it. Do it for the Kumbh mela Markaz or anything religious because people contact is uncontrolled and risks are higher.

I am raising these questions not to play devils advocate. Just feel that it is our anguish speaking, we often are frustrated for right things but express over wrong things.

Everyone wants life to go on as normal, even in the UK we are doing our best to keep sports programmes going, in general it is a good thing. But when things reach a stage where record deaths are being recorded every day, then the question of doing the right thing arises.

That said, I am talking from a western mindset. In India they may have a totally different view of what the right thing is. I don't think in the UK we would feel comfortable putting sports above the health of the population as a priority if we were in a similar situation.
 
Yes. Cancel everything. Cancel all the subscriptions of Netflix, Amazon Prime and all the news/entertainment channels put whole of India into national mourning.

Show the Television, with Black Background and just put some sad song with Ravish Kumar shouting..
Andhkaaar hi Andhkaar hai.
Ban cable TV networks showing movies and just let the whole country be just sitting at home and cry to their beds.
 
Yes. Cancel everything. Cancel all the subscriptions of Netflix, Amazon Prime and all the news/entertainment channels put whole of India into national mourning.

Show the Television, with Black Background and just put some sad song with Ravish Kumar shouting..
Andhkaaar hi Andhkaar hai.
Ban cable TV networks showing movies and just let the whole country be just sitting at home and cry to their beds.

No....play Arnab Goswami taking on Nizam Markaz.....it suits the mood of u and most of ur ppl
 
Please ensure there is no critical responses of the handling of the outbreak by the BJP. Everything is fine.

**The Indian government had earlier asked Twitter to take down dozens of tweets, including some by local lawmakers, that were critical of its handling of the outbreak. Twitter has withheld some of the tweets after the legal request by the Indian government**

LoL. democracy at its best
 
Yes. Cancel everything. Cancel all the subscriptions of Netflix, Amazon Prime and all the news/entertainment channels put whole of India into national mourning.

Show the Television, with Black Background and just put some sad song with Ravish Kumar shouting..
Andhkaaar hi Andhkaar hai.
Ban cable TV networks showing movies and just let the whole country be just sitting at home and cry to their beds.
That is just being silly.

You could play the IPL in a safe place - perhaps the UAE which now has oven 106 vaccines per 100 population, just behind Israel and a long way behind Gibraltar.

People could get their fix of entertainment without it having to be manufactured in the middle of the world’s worst Covid outbreak.

The last 4 rounds of the South American World Cup Qualifiers have been cancelled because of Brazil’s pandemic, which is not quite as bad as India’s.

The IPL and the BJP government are sending a clear and unmistakeable message: “Indian lives are worth less than South American lives”.

And that staggers me. I thought they were supposed to be nationalists, yet they show less care for preservation of Indian lives than Imran Khan did when he sent the Pakistan Air Force to retaliate after Indian air strikes on Pakistan.

As an Englishman, this just looks weird to me. I genuinely can’t understand why India treats Indian lives as so cheap.
 
Yes. Cancel everything. Cancel all the subscriptions of Netflix, Amazon Prime and all the news/entertainment channels put whole of India into national mourning.

Show the Television, with Black Background and just put some sad song with Ravish Kumar shouting..
Andhkaaar hi Andhkaar hai.
Ban cable TV networks showing movies and just let the whole country be just sitting at home and cry to their beds.


Is this not the time when every resource and money in any field is freed up and used for nothing else other than saving lives and ensuring basic care? Does the entertainment need to be LIVE IN INDIA at such a grand scale at the moment? Imagine if all the music stars in India decided to do a concert with fireworks in delhi right now for money. It's just not a good look. It might be entertaining for the more privileged of people in terms of health and wealth. But pretty inconsiderate towards those who aren't as privileged.

Should the attention not be towards-hey what we can do to help/donate to/contact health care facilities and resources at this pressing time and not towards live cricket. Surely there are other forms of entertainment that don't necessarily scream : "Hey, we're doing so much better off at a time like this- we get to enjoy playing a game". LIVE Festivities can surely take a back seat.
 
Everyone wants life to go on as normal, even in the UK we are doing our best to keep sports programmes going, in general it is a good thing. But when things reach a stage where record deaths are being recorded every day, then the question of doing the right thing arises.

That said, I am talking from a western mindset. In India they may have a totally different view of what the right thing is. I don't think in the UK we would feel comfortable putting sports above the health of the population as a priority if we were in a similar situation.
My first post here... so hello.

Very interesting to see the concern from the neighbors for Indians. And of course each such concerned poster also has some interesting opinions about the Indians regard (or disregard) for life, poor, low castes etc. and how bad Indians in general are. The more hilarious posts are of those blaming 'the current administration' and its failure despite the fact that the only place where the situation has truly turned adverse (Delhi and Maharashtra) and where actual administrative failures in procurement of Oxygen has occurred are those run by opposition parties.

The same people (including Indians) who are poo-pooing the WB rallies (only those from the PM) and 'kimbh mela' were also cheering on the apparently 200 million farmers in protest just a couple of months back.

If the western narrative had to be believed, all of India is currently either dying in the streets or being cremated en masse, yet nobody appears to have made any connection between the farmer protests in which half of India was out in the streets while the fascists were in their homes following social distancing.

While the situation in India isn't good, the IPL is not going to be cancelled. As someone who is currently Covid-positive and in quarantine I'm much grateful for the few hours of solid entertainment and distraction it provides me and millions of other people.
 
That’s the wrong metaphor.

In World War 2, London had a total blackout as German bombers attacked during the Blitz. Not even a speck of light could be allowed, to disorientate the German pilots.

Playing the IPL now is as if we had had floodlit football matches at Upton Park and Highbury.

There’s an out of control pandemic in India currently.

Nobody should be leaving their house and all non-essential activity should be ceased. Sports matches fall absolutely under the “non-essential” category.

The continuation of the IPL is a clear statement that governance has failed completely, at national government, state government and sport governance levels.

You might as well brand the players, the administrators and the viewers with facial tattoos saying “I’m too rich and too stupid to care”.

It’s an absolute disgrace, and with every day that passes I’m moving on from anger towards the government and the organisers to anger towards the players and the viewers. They are shameless and now I am ashamed of them.

In your analogy, leaving lights on would have alerted the German pilots and worsened the situation.

But in the case of IPL, it is not hindering the Covid relief efforts in any way.

How tough is it to understand this one major difference ?!

Yes, the national and state govts have completely failed in their response and its a pathetic situation here. I would be the first person to criticise these modern-day Neroes who are holding giant election rallies/allowing Kumbh Mela which are highly likely to be super spreader events.

But not one poster has elaborated on how stopping the IPL would help with alleviating this Covid situation.
 
My first post here... so hello.

Very interesting to see the concern from the neighbors for Indians. And of course each such concerned poster also has some interesting opinions about the Indians regard (or disregard) for life, poor, low castes etc. and how bad Indians in general are. The more hilarious posts are of those blaming 'the current administration' and its failure despite the fact that the only place where the situation has truly turned adverse (Delhi and Maharashtra) and where actual administrative failures in procurement of Oxygen has occurred are those run by opposition parties.

The same people (including Indians) who are poo-pooing the WB rallies (only those from the PM) and 'kimbh mela' were also cheering on the apparently 200 million farmers in protest just a couple of months back.

If the western narrative had to be believed, all of India is currently either dying in the streets or being cremated en masse, yet nobody appears to have made any connection between the farmer protests in which half of India was out in the streets while the fascists were in their homes following social distancing.

While the situation in India isn't good, the IPL is not going to be cancelled. As someone who is currently Covid-positive and in quarantine I'm much grateful for the few hours of solid entertainment and distraction it provides me and millions of other people.

Hope you get well soon. As I said, I am not here to lecture anyone, merely giving a perspective from the west. I think over here we would consider it bad form to continue a tournament in a bubble where millions are contracting the disease because they can't get access to a bubble. It's just a form of respect for those suffering. I imagine a lot of them won't have access to beds or tv screens where they can watch the entertainment.
 
Sure, people can make a solid argument to justify why hundreds of COVID tests per week to keep a cricket tournament running is justified in this situation, but this has to be the dumbest analogy I have ever come across in my life.

There are almost 2 million tests being done on a daily basis here and there is no issue regarding the lack of testing kits.

So, saying that a few hundred tests per week out of more than 10 mn tests would lead to short supply is almost as dumb as what you feel about my analogy.
 
Get well to the poster covid positive.
This is after all a Pakistani forum so there will be a lot of Pakistani perspective on this, with different views.

However, the situation isn’t about any country or politics. The situation whether just in 1 city or a few states is bad and can trickle everywhere including across to Pakistan and Bangladesh etc.

Here’s to hoping the situation gets under control and people get through this. Personally would postpone the IPL for now but it has been in secure bubble (credit for that), and it gives entertainment which is good.
 
There are almost 2 million tests being done on a daily basis here and there is no issue regarding the lack of testing kits.

So, saying that a few hundred tests per week out of more than 10 mn tests would lead to short supply is almost as dumb as what you feel about my analogy.

2 million tests per day for a population of 1.3 billion is around 12% of the required daily amount in an outbreak.

So every single test being done for IPL bubble occupants is at the expense of the general public. Each IPL player test probably leads to anything up to 5 infections by people who could have had that test.

So 14 Tests in a week for Trent Boult means that anything up to 70 Indians per week catch Covid because he had their tests.

In other words, every player, coach and hanger-on in each IPL bubble will end up consuming testing kits which would have prevented 300 Indians from catching Covid. And 4 to 6 of them will die.

I love sport, but that is grossly unfair on the Indian public.
 
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2 million tests per day for a population of 1.3 billion is around 12% of the required daily amount in an outbreak.

So every single test being done for IPL bubble occupants is at the expense of the general public. Each IPL player test probably leads to anything up to 5 infections by people who could have had that test.

So 14 Tests in a week for Trent Boult means that anything up to 70 Indians per week catch Covid because he had their tests.

In other words, every player, coach and hanger-on in each IPL bubble will end up consuming testing kits which would have prevented 300 Indians from catching Covid. And 4 to 6 of them will die.

I love sport, but that is grossly unfair on the Indian public.

Can you share any source where it says each player will have 2 covid tests daily. Because I can't find anything like that.
 
2 million tests per day for a population of 1.3 billion is around 12% of the required daily amount in an outbreak.

So every single test being done for IPL bubble occupants is at the expense of the general public. Each IPL player test probably leads to anything up to 5 infections by people who could have had that test.

So 14 Tests in a week for Trent Boult means that anything up to 70 Indians per week catch Covid because he had their tests.

In other words, every player, coach and hanger-on in each IPL bubble will end up consuming testing kits which would have prevented 300 Indians from catching Covid. And 4 to 6 of them will die.

I love sport, but that is grossly unfair on the Indian public.

Could you please cite some source for this benchmark for the required amount of daily tests.
 
There are almost 2 million tests being done on a daily basis here and there is no issue regarding the lack of testing kits.

So, saying that a few hundred tests per week out of more than 10 mn tests would lead to short supply is almost as dumb as what you feel about my analogy.

Could you please cite some source for this benchmark for the required amount of daily tests.
It’s the accepted standard in an outbreak in order to break the chain of transmission: 1% of the population tested daily.

India has a population of 1.37 billion, so to bring the outbreak under control they need to test 13.7 million people each day.

The only major city worldwide to extinguish an outbreak completely was Melbourne. They averaged 42,000 Tests per day over a period of 4 weeks, against a population of 5.1 million - so they were testing 0.83% of the population each day.

By the same ratio as Melbourne:

Delhi would test 250,000 people per day.
Mumbai would test 170,000 people per day.
India would test 11.8 million people per day. (Yesterday it tested under 800,000 in the whole country).

Unless those testing levels are being hit - and we all know that they are not - then the tests being done on IPL players are being squandered when they are required for real cases which are not being tested.
 
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That is just being silly.

You could play the IPL in a safe place - perhaps the UAE which now has oven 106 vaccines per 100 population, just behind Israel and a long way behind Gibraltar.

People could get their fix of entertainment without it having to be manufactured in the middle of the world’s worst Covid outbreak.

The last 4 rounds of the South American World Cup Qualifiers have been cancelled because of Brazil’s pandemic, which is not quite as bad as India’s.

The IPL and the BJP government are sending a clear and unmistakeable message: “Indian lives are worth less than South American lives”.

And that staggers me. I thought they were supposed to be nationalists, yet they show less care for preservation of Indian lives than Imran Khan did when he sent the Pakistan Air Force to retaliate after Indian air strikes on Pakistan.

As an Englishman, this just looks weird to me. I genuinely can’t understand why India treats Indian lives as so cheap.

Just my 2 cents.

First of all BJP has got nothing to do with IPL. If at all, you should call out the Indian government (there is a big difference between BJP and GOI). BJP is a party and GOI is entire machinery which consists of Legislative, Executive and Judiciary, our three pillars of democracy and I will be perfectly ok if the GOI were stopping IPL.

This of course you may be aware but sadly many other posters think India is a one party pony and all that happens is due to BJP now or due to congress previously.
I don't support BJP but I do support GOI. They are the not sharpest knives in the drawer but they work.

Further, it would be sillier to shift IPL to UAE unless the Bio secure bubble is breached. Ethics wise what difference does it make whether the tournament is in India or UAE?

I cannot comment on South America WC qualifiers as I am sure they assessed themselves as not bein capable of staging these matches under a proper BSE.
Why do Indians treat the Indian lives so cheap. No comparision between South American lives and Indian lives. Both have similar inferior records as compared to say UK. and I will dilute the blame by saying its not only India or South America it is also Asia and Africa at large.

Lastly, by cancelling IPL we won't suddenly have lots of test kits or oxygen or beds available. What we would have is rich cricketers and administrators idling and poor groundsmen, staff, helpers, hotel staff, logistics staff etc. still staring at Covid-19 but this time with empty pockets.
 
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Everyone wants life to go on as normal, even in the UK we are doing our best to keep sports programmes going, in general it is a good thing. But when things reach a stage where record deaths are being recorded every day, then the question of doing the right thing arises.

That said, I am talking from a western mindset. In India they may have a totally different view of what the right thing is. I don't think in the UK we would feel comfortable putting sports above the health of the population as a priority if we were in a similar situation.

I appreciate western mindset. It is a commonly held perspective that Western nations promote good human values and ethical conduct and are far superior in human lives records than rest of the world. I agree to this totally.

I just keep thinking by canceling or postponing IPL, what would BCCI or GOI (Modi - wink wink humour humour) really achieve? other than giving us a moral satisfaction and a false placatory sense that yes something has been done to show public solidarity, really what else?
The public doesn't want it. People I have been talking to in India have no issues with IPL.

Why watching or playing cricket is being made to feel like a guilt trip? It is not. It is just a popular sport which is not causing deaths. The crowds have been kept out so they are safe. Another thing that they still want to go to weddings (I know of many cases among friends and families)

I will go so far as to say that this Bio bubble exercise should continue and be watched carefully and to be improved/ replicated as it is going to teach us how to live in a covid infested world.

Will stand us all in good stead over the coming years because who knows the Covid might just linger on till 2025.
 
It’s the accepted standard in an outbreak in order to break the chain of transmission: 1% of the population tested daily.

India has a population of 1.37 billion, so to bring the outbreak under control they need to test 13.7 million people each day.

The only major city worldwide to extinguish an outbreak completely was Melbourne. They averaged 42,000 Tests per day over a period of 4 weeks, against a population of 5.1 million - so they were testing 0.83% of the population each day.

By the same ratio as Melbourne:

Delhi would test 250,000 people per day.
Mumbai would test 170,000 people per day.
India would test 11.8 million people per day. (Yesterday it tested under 800,000 in the whole country).

Unless those testing levels are being hit - and we all know that they are not - then the tests being done on IPL players are being squandered when they are required for real cases which are not being tested.

No, the accepted global benchmark for testing is if theres 1 positive result for every 10 tests.

Currently, we have 300k cases vs 2 mn tests. So need to ramp up to 3 mn tests and not 13.7 mn.

Also, I don't think your last statement about real cases not being tested is true. Another thing to be pondered is if the additional number of people are themselves willing to get randomly tested without any symptoms (since that would mean venturing out and increasing your risk of getting the virus).
 
I appreciate western mindset. It is a commonly held perspective that Western nations promote good human values and ethical conduct and are far superior in human lives records than rest of the world. I agree to this totally.

I just keep thinking by canceling or postponing IPL, what would BCCI or GOI (Modi - wink wink humour humour) really achieve? other than giving us a moral satisfaction and a false placatory sense that yes something has been done to show public solidarity, really what else?
The public doesn't want it. People I have been talking to in India have no issues with IPL.

Why watching or playing cricket is being made to feel like a guilt trip? It is not. It is just a popular sport which is not causing deaths. The crowds have been kept out so they are safe. Another thing that they still want to go to weddings (I know of many cases among friends and families)

I will go so far as to say that this Bio bubble exercise should continue and be watched carefully and to be improved/ replicated as it is going to teach us how to live in a covid infested world.

Will stand us all in good stead over the coming years because who knows the Covid might just linger on till 2025.

It's not about a bubble or safety of the players, it's about paying tribute to the fallen in this war against the virus. I'm sure there might be some financial and some enjoyment value in continuing the IPL, but is that really the priority? For me it is about paying respect to the value of Indian lives, same way as we would be worried about the health and safety of British or Australian ones. The lesson should be that Indian lives are not so cheap after all that watching some teams play a T20 match is seen as more important. Rearrange it when things have calmed down a bit and the news is brighter in India. It sends a message that we care.
 
There are almost 2 million tests being done on a daily basis here and there is no issue regarding the lack of testing kits.

So, saying that a few hundred tests per week out of more than 10 mn tests would lead to short supply is almost as dumb as what you feel about my analogy.

2 million tests per day are not enough. The government of India is not in control of the crisis.

Utilizing the hundreds of COVID Tests in IPL for the general public will not help India overcome the virus but it can save the lives of a few hundred people, and for those hundred people, it will mean the world.

There is no sidestepping the fact that the IPL is currently ongoing at the detriment of the public of India. Every single test conducted in the IPL bubble is a waste.
 
It’s the accepted standard in an outbreak in order to break the chain of transmission: 1% of the population tested daily.

India has a population of 1.37 billion, so to bring the outbreak under control they need to test 13.7 million people each day.

The only major city worldwide to extinguish an outbreak completely was Melbourne. They averaged 42,000 Tests per day over a period of 4 weeks, against a population of 5.1 million - so they were testing 0.83% of the population each day.

By the same ratio as Melbourne:

Delhi would test 250,000 people per day.
Mumbai would test 170,000 people per day.
India would test 11.8 million people per day. (Yesterday it tested under 800,000 in the whole country).

Unless those testing levels are being hit - and we all know that they are not - then the tests being done on IPL players are being squandered when they are required for real cases which are not being tested.

Accepted standards by whom? Can you please post a source?

You are known to make false claims all the time.
 
2 million tests per day are not enough. The government of India is not in control of the crisis.

Utilizing the hundreds of COVID Tests in IPL for the general public will not help India overcome the virus but it can save the lives of a few hundred people, and for those hundred people, it will mean the world.

There is no sidestepping the fact that the IPL is currently ongoing at the detriment of the public of India. Every single test conducted in the IPL bubble is a waste.

Anyone who wants to get tested is being tested. Samples being collected at homes.

There is no supply constraint.
 
How do people get tested for covid in western countries? Do they visit the hospital and get tested on their own volition or is it some sort of mass community testing?

At least just as far as the testing argument is concerned, I don't think I've ever read any news of scarcity of testing material/kits in India. It's just that our people are suspicious of even getting tested and many don't visit the hospital to get tested thinking they can manage themselves if the symptoms are mild. Getting tested is not difficult in India, you go to any government center and get tested. What's difficult though is finding a bed with ventilator in an ICU ward because the health care system of the country has been overwhelmed with massive amount of cases like what happened in Italy during the first wave.

My reason for postponing the IPL is simply that it's perhaps not the most appropriate to conduct a cricket festival of sorts when the entire country is grappling with a serious pandemic. Imagine when the tournament shifts to Delhi where the most damage has happened and is happening while the IPL takes place inside a bubble as if nothing is happening outside. It's as tone deaf as Bollywood celebs tweeting "off to Maldives for a vacation!" when people started dropping like flies due to lack of oxygen. This is not about India or Pakistan. I personally feel cricket should be happening only in western countries where they have managed to control covid to a great extent unlike the subcontinent. One thing is for sure though. They won't utter a peep now (coz they want their dollars) but wait till some of the foreign cricketers start talking about how it was surreal to play in the IPL while being lodged in five star hotels when hundreds of people were dying daily on the outside and about the class divide in future interviews and autobiographies.
 
I would feel sick if I was playing cricket and having so many resources used on me, in an environment where people are dying like flies
 
It did in other countries

Hasnt in India. If films can be shot. If people can get married, cricket can be played too.

Millions are watching the IPL. They are not complaining, while foreigners seem to be more interested.
 
Imagine a mass burial happening with a rock concert playing in the middle of it. This is the same thing
 
Just my 2 cents.

First of all BJP has got nothing to do with IPL. If at all, you should call out the Indian government (there is a big difference between BJP and GOI). BJP is a party and GOI is entire machinery which consists of Legislative, Executive and Judiciary, our three pillars of democracy and I will be perfectly ok if the GOI were stopping IPL.

This of course you may be aware but sadly many other posters think India is a one party pony and all that happens is due to BJP now or due to congress previously.
I don't support BJP but I do support GOI. They are the not sharpest knives in the drawer but they work.

Further, it would be sillier to shift IPL to UAE unless the Bio secure bubble is breached. Ethics wise what difference does it make whether the tournament is in India or UAE?

I cannot comment on South America WC qualifiers as I am sure they assessed themselves as not bein capable of staging these matches under a proper BSE.
Why do Indians treat the Indian lives so cheap. No comparision between South American lives and Indian lives. Both have similar inferior records as compared to say UK. and I will dilute the blame by saying its not only India or South America it is also Asia and Africa at large.

Lastly, by cancelling IPL we won't suddenly have lots of test kits or oxygen or beds available. What we would have is rich cricketers and administrators idling and poor groundsmen, staff, helpers, hotel staff, logistics staff etc. still staring at Covid-19 but this time with empty pockets.

I m not want 2 be political here.
.but isn't BJP enjoying almost absolute majority there....???
 
Hasnt in India. If films can be shot. If people can get married, cricket can be played too.

Millions are watching the IPL. They are not complaining, while foreigners seem to be more interested.

First Livingstone now Tyre.....most players r leaving due to anxiety and stress.......hope Christian bhai is....ok....LOL
 
When cases are at this scale it is just a matter of time before the bubble is breached you'd think.

Either that or India have a bubble which is so tight it is surely going to infringe on a ton of the rights of those at the bottom of rung.

Huge sacrifices are being made to keep the IPL going for the benefit of only a few. But you'd expect nothing less of the BCCI sadly.
 
My first post here... so hello.

Very interesting to see the concern from the neighbors for Indians. And of course each such concerned poster also has some interesting opinions about the Indians regard (or disregard) for life, poor, low castes etc. and how bad Indians in general are. The more hilarious posts are of those blaming 'the current administration' and its failure despite the fact that the only place where the situation has truly turned adverse (Delhi and Maharashtra) and where actual administrative failures in procurement of Oxygen has occurred are those run by opposition parties.

The same people (including Indians) who are poo-pooing the WB rallies (only those from the PM) and 'kimbh mela' were also cheering on the apparently 200 million farmers in protest just a couple of months back.

If the western narrative had to be believed, all of India is currently either dying in the streets or being cremated en masse, yet nobody appears to have made any connection between the farmer protests in which half of India was out in the streets while the fascists were in their homes following social distancing.

While the situation in India isn't good, the IPL is not going to be cancelled. As someone who is currently Covid-positive and in quarantine I'm much grateful for the few hours of solid entertainment and distraction it provides me and millions of other people.

Welcome to the forum. Great first post.
 
Shoaib Akhtar speaking on his YT Channel:

“India is facing a devastating situation. They need to stop the IPL if it can’t continue without strict SOPs in place but otherwise, considering that India is burning, it needs to be postponed. I’m not saying this because PSL was postponed. I also think PSL shouldn’t take place in June"

“IPL is not important and the money spent on it can be better used to buy oxygen tanks. That can save people from dying. We don’t need cricket, heroes and entertainment at the moment. We want to save lives in India and Pakistan. I’m using these strong words because human lives are at stake"

“Pakistan is right on the edge, there is only 10 per cent oxygen capacity left. People are not following SOPs. I request the government to enforce curfew for the last 10-15 days [of Ramadan]. There is no need to go out for Eid shopping. People need to very careful and take care of themselves"
 
As someone who wants the best for India, I feel it is a good thing that the IPL is going on.

1) The use of the tests on the players is really a non-issue. The number of infections at this point is so large, that anyone who is feeling sick assumes they have the virus. All a test can do is confirm that they don't, which doesn't help stop the spread of the virus.

2) As long as the IPL goes on, there are probably more than a hundred million sitting at home and watching. Many of the viewers would have been outside their homes doing other things if it were not for the IPL. So the IPL is potentially preventing millions of infections.

3) It is good for the IPL to continue so that people can remain optimistic about the future. IPL till now has conveyed the message that it is possible to avoid catching the infection if people take precautions and the virus can be beaten. Morale is most important is such trying times, and IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency.
 
As someone who wants the best for India, I feel it is a good thing that the IPL is going on.

1) The use of the tests on the players is really a non-issue. The number of infections at this point is so large, that anyone who is feeling sick assumes they have the virus. All a test can do is confirm that they don't, which doesn't help stop the spread of the virus.

2) As long as the IPL goes on, there are probably more than a hundred million sitting at home and watching. Many of the viewers would have been outside their homes doing other things if it were not for the IPL. So the IPL is potentially preventing millions of infections.

3) It is good for the IPL to continue so that people can remain optimistic about the future. IPL till now has conveyed the message that it is possible to avoid catching the infection if people take precautions and the virus can be beaten. Morale is most important is such trying times, and IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency.

Yeah people are losing jobs, shops are shut, there is uncertainity in their minds regarding the duration of lockdown but still they will enjoy watching IPL during this time. Wah bhai wah. :inti
 
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Yeah people are losing jobs, shops are shut, there is uncertainity in their minds regarding the duration of lockdown but still they will enjoy watching IPL during this time. Wah bhai wah. :inti

Did I say IPL was the solution? I said it's net impact was positive, which is not the same thing as saying that it will solve the problem.

As [MENTION=153021]krikit[/MENTION] wrote in his excellent post, IPL provides a bit of distraction for people who are suffering.
 
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Did I say IPL was the solution? I said it's net impact was positive, which is not the same thing as saying that it will solve the problem.

As [MENTION=153021]krikit[/MENTION] wrote in his excellent post, IPL provides a bit of distraction for people who are suffering.

You look confused. This is what you wrote :

Morale is most important is such trying times, and IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency.

Now please explain what do you mean by 'IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency'? How does this work?

I am pretty sure you have never been to hospitals in India filled with covid patients. Cheap entertainment would be the last thing on their mind. Even Ashwin left IPL to be with his family. I think using your brilliant logic his family would have preferred watching him on their TV sets. :inti
 
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No, the accepted global benchmark for testing is if theres 1 positive result for every 10 tests.

Currently, we have 300k cases vs 2 mn tests. So need to ramp up to 3 mn tests and not 13.7 mn.
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No offence, but that is nonsensical. At a 17% positive rate if you did an extra 100,000 Tests you would detect an additional 17,000 cases. What makes you think the extra 100,000 tests would all be negative?

You are conflating the required amount of testing with the positivity rate. They are two different things.

Here in Australia the testing standard in a full outbreak is:

1. Minimum testing volume:
1% of the population per day

2. Maximum positivity rate to not be in total lockdown
No more than 1% of tests per day positive for 28 consecutive days (2 transmission cycles)

Delhi currently has a positivity rate of 30%. Using the Melbourne model - the only one in the world which has eradicated an outbreak - sport such as the IPL would be allowed to resume 28 days after that positivity rate has fallen to below 1% and stayed there.

It’s sad that the lives of Indians in India seem to be valued less than the lives of Indians in Melbourne.
 
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You look confused. This is what you wrote :

Morale is most important is such trying times, and IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency.

Now please explain what do you mean by 'IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency'? How does this work?

I am pretty sure you have never been to hospitals in India filled with covid patients. Cheap entertainment would be the last thing on their mind. Even Ashwin left IPL to be with his family. I think using your brilliant logic his family would have preferred watching him on their TV sets. :inti

There is a difference between:

1. 'IPL helps the country from sinking deeper into despondency'

and

2. 'IPL prevents the country from sinking into despondency'

(1.) implies that IPL has a positive impact, whereas (2.) implies that IPL is the solution.

Your posts indicate you thought I meant IPL was the solution, you misunderstood what I wrote.

As for "I think using your brilliant logic his family would have preferred watching him on their TV sets", you do realize that if the hundred odd Indian players left IPL to comfort their families, then these hundred odd families would be better off (like Ashwin's family is), but most of the 200 million Indian families do not have their son(s) playing in the IPL?
 
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Ravichandran Ashwin withdraws from IPL to support family over COVID-19

Ashwin's decision is a major blow for the money-spinning event which is being held behind closed doors and runs until May 30.

Ravichandran Ashwin withdrew from the Indian Premier League on Sunday to support his family during the COVID-19 pandemic, dealing a significant blow to the glitzy tournament which is taking place despite the country battling rising death rates.

Ashwin, 34, a key Test and ODI player, said he would be taking a break from playing in the lucrative T20 franchise tournament with the Delhi Capitals team.

"My family and extended family are putting up a fight against #COVID19 and I want to support them during these tough times," Ashwin tweeted.

"I expect to return to play if things go in the right direction. Thank you @DelhiCapitals."

Ashwin's decision is a major blow for the money-spinning event which is being held behind closed doors and runs until May 30.

On Sunday, a leading Indian newspaper group suspended coverage of the IPL, calling the tournament "commercialism gone crass" and "incongruous" as the record-breaking pandemic surge grips the country.

Express Publications said in a front-page editorial of its flagship English-language daily, the New Indian Express, that the paper was halting reporting on the Twenty20 event until a "semblance of normalcy is restored".

Delhi said they supported the decision taken by Ashwin.

"Extending our full support to you in these difficult times, [MENTION=140526]ashwin[/MENTION]ravi99 Sending you and your family all the strength and prayers from all of us at Delhi Capitals," the team tweeted.

Ashwin has played 77 Tests in a 10-year international career as well as 111 ODIs and 46 T20 Internationals.

He has 409 Test wickets, one of just 16 bowlers in history to break the 400-mark. Ashwin's Twitter account has over 10 million followers. His profile page contains the plea: "Stay home stay safe! Take your vaccine."

https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cric...port-family-over-covid-19/article34409898.ece
 
My first post here... so hello.

Very interesting to see the concern from the neighbors for Indians. And of course each such concerned poster also has some interesting opinions about the Indians regard (or disregard) for life, poor, low castes etc. and how bad Indians in general are. The more hilarious posts are of those blaming 'the current administration' and its failure despite the fact that the only place where the situation has truly turned adverse (Delhi and Maharashtra) and where actual administrative failures in procurement of Oxygen has occurred are those run by opposition parties.

The same people (including Indians) who are poo-pooing the WB rallies (only those from the PM) and 'kimbh mela' were also cheering on the apparently 200 million farmers in protest just a couple of months back.

If the western narrative had to be believed, all of India is currently either dying in the streets or being cremated en masse, yet nobody appears to have made any connection between the farmer protests in which half of India was out in the streets while the fascists were in their homes following social distancing.

While the situation in India isn't good, the IPL is not going to be cancelled. As someone who is currently Covid-positive and in quarantine I'm much grateful for the few hours of solid entertainment and distraction it provides me and millions of other people.


Firstly, Wish you a speedy recovery from CV-19, may all go well with u...
Awesome observations, hard hitting analysis and has separated the fluff from the reality....especially the tired pathetic western narrative as well as of the vested intrests in the medial
POTW material for me as far as I am concerned.
Looking forward to more such posts, Champ - Get well sooon :salute
 
How do people get tested for covid in western countries? Do they visit the hospital and get tested on their own volition or is it some sort of mass community testing?

There are various ways. If you are under quarantine, listed as a contact for a case during contact tracing etc then you are required to be tested and it is usually done at a testing centre set up for that purpose. In my experience these are not hospitals (sheer folly to invite possible cases to visit a place full of people with other health complications) but temporary container/field hospital type set ups or repurposed buildings.

The vast majority of people would be tested that way. I'm sure there are tests carried out in other places or by private GP's but by and large the effort is made to separate covid testing from the rest of the ublic health system- even if it is carried out by public health workers, they are working specifically on that job during covid, not in and out of other hospitals.

In cases entire regions or suburbs were designated for testing, or calls made for anyone who has visited X place or Y place on this day or that time to go get tested. So it is a mixture of calls for people to "own up" and go get tested for the public good and other cases where testing is mandated.

Basically you contact the testing centre, advise who & why you need a test & they make a time (to try and stop crowds gathering and waiting). It's a pretty big public health effort.
 
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Good on Ashwin. He is one of the few socially conscious cricketers in our country and he was one of the first cricketers to talk about the massive covid crisis happening in the country
(along with the likes of Harbhajan) when generally our cricketers (and celebrities) are more concerned about random elephant deaths. This is not a question of BCCI's efficiency. I'm sure with the resources at its disposal, the BCCI can conduct not just the IPL but also the T20 world cup with few hiccups. But the question is whether is it worth it. Nearly 70% of Japanese residents want the upcoming Tokyo Olympics to be either cancelled or postponed again. And Japan has a fraction of the amount of cases that we have. It's crazy that we are even having this conversation.

Mark my words. More and more murmurs about the IPL will start if it continues to happen and I would not be surprised if more foreign cricketers leave the IPL midway citing the crisis. The BCCI would be better served in postponing the IPL on its own volition than risk losing face if a lot of foreign cricketers jump ship like it happened in the PSL.
 
Cricket Australia and ACA Joint Statement Cricket Australia and the Australian Cricketers’ Association remain in regular contact with Australian players, coaches and commentators taking part in the Indian Premier League, which is being conducted under strict biosecurity protocols.

We will continue to listen to feedback from those on the ground in India and the advice of the Australian Government.

Our thoughts are with the people of India at this difficult time.
 
There are various ways. If you are under quarantine, listed as a contact for a case during contact tracing etc then you are required to be tested and it is usually done at a testing centre set up for that purpose. In my experience these are not hospitals (sheer folly to invite possible cases to visit a place full of people with other health complications) but temporary container/field hospital type set ups or repurposed buildings.

The vast majority of people would be tested that way. I'm sure there are tests carried out in other places or by private GP's but by and large the effort is made to separate covid testing from the rest of the ublic health system- even if it is carried out by public health workers, they are working specifically on that job during covid, not in and out of other hospitals.

In cases entire regions or suburbs were designated for testing, or calls made for anyone who has visited X place or Y place on this day or that time to go get tested. So it is a mixture of calls for people to "own up" and go get tested for the public good and other cases where testing is mandated.

Basically you contact the testing centre, advise who & why you need a test & they make a time (to try and stop crowds gathering and waiting). It's a pretty big public health effort.

Thanks for the reply. That last paragraph is exactly why it's hard to test more in the subcontinent, where generally any disaster is seen as a conspiracy by the west. People in general don't like to get tested for a variety of reasons and think they can manage any fever at home. It's only after things hit the roof that many visit the hospital. So I think it's impractical to expect the western rates of testing in the subcontinent unless you conduct a mass exercise of mandatory covid testing in the population.
 
Mark my words. More and more murmurs about the IPL will start if it continues to happen and I would not be surprised if more foreign cricketers leave the IPL midway citing the crisis. The BCCI would be better served in postponing the IPL on its own volition than risk losing face if a lot of foreign cricketers jump ship like it happened in the PSL.

I would be surprised if this happened. The pressure behind the scenes to remain will be insane.

You can rest assured that the BCCI has delivered clear messages to the foreign players and the boards that they must stay in the tournament at all costs or face future consequences.

It's unthinkable that a crisis like this could be going on in any other test playing country and the vast majority of players would still be there playing. The sums involved with IPL are simply too high for anyone to leave unless pushed.
 
How do people get tested for covid in western countries? Do they visit the hospital and get tested on their own volition or is it some sort of mass community testing?

My reason for postponing the IPL is simply that it's perhaps not the most appropriate to conduct a cricket festival of sorts when the entire country is grappling with a serious pandemic.

This is a brilliant post, you have got to the heart of the matter. Here in Australia we consider the UK and USA to be Failed States in terms of Coronavirus, but we also struggle to see why India failed to implement the same precautions as Vietnam.

Forget the expensive stuff that we do in Australia and New Zealand - genomic testing of every single positive case so that we know who infected whom.

There are cheap things which we did which poor countries like Vietnam did too, and which should be mandatory before you play sport at home:

1.Every single person with a headache, sore throat, cough or runny nose HAS to get tested.
2. They are not allowed to take public transport to the testing site, or be driven, or to share their vehicle. Anyone who has shared a vehicle with them joins them in quarantine for 14 days.
3. Testing sites are in every suburb of every town and city.
4. While you await your result, you are not allowed contact with any other person. You may have to be locked in a room in your home.
5. If you test positive, you are hospitalised even if you have no symptoms. And your contacts (home, work etc) are forcibly isolated from other humans for 14 days.
6. Any positive case has contact tracing of everywhere they have been for 14 days, and every person they have had contact with for 14 days. And those people are banned from contact with other people for 14 days, or until they have had 2 negative tests 10 days apart.

No cleaners.
No drivers.
No cooks.
No contact with ANYONE.

Because of this, Australia has had 1 Covid death in the last 6 months - and that was someone who caught it in the Philippines.

That is how you make a country safe for sport.

India has failed to take the care of its population that Vietnam has. Vietnam has a population of 96 million, and is poor, yet has had only 2833 cases and 35 deaths. Because they forcibly isolate contacts of suspected cases at army bases.

It baffles me why India ploughs on with hosting the IPL, because it is giving India a reputation across the cricket world of being a country with brutal indifference towards the suffering of its own people. Every day that the IPL continues, the reputation of India as a nation and the IPL as a brand gets more and more damaged.
 
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JUST IN: RCB's Australian pair of Adam Zampa and Kane Richardson pull out of #IPL2021
 
JUST IN: RCB's Australian pair of Adam Zampa and Kane Richardson pull out of #IPL2021

Royal Challengers Bangalore received a big blow on Monday after two Australia stars Kane Richardson and Adam Zampa announced that they will be pulling out of the ongoing season of the Indian Premier League, and will be returning to Australia. The announcement came a day after RCB suffered their first defeat of the season against Australia.

While Kane Richardson has played only one game this season, against Rajasthan Royals, in which he registered figures of 1/29, Adam Zampa was yet to feature in IPL 2021.

"Royal Challengers Bangalore management respects their decision and offers them complete support," the statement added.

Earlier, it was Delhi Capitals spinner Ravichandran Ashwin who announced on Twitter that he will be bowing out of the tournament to be with his family and support them amid the ongoing pandemic.

Rajasthan Royals bowling coach Andrew Tye also pulled out of the tournament and flew back to Australia.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...t-to-return-to-australia-101619411767223.html
 
What happened to the story that foreign players are not withdrawing from IPL because of $$$, and if it is was PSL, they would have left.

Has this ended in tears as well like every other high fantasy nonsense that our delusional fans concoct?
 
What happened to the story that foreign players are not withdrawing from IPL because of $$$, and if it is was PSL, they would have left.

Has this ended in tears as well like every other high fantasy nonsense that our delusional fans concoct?

Players have the right to pull out. BCCI and IPL can provide the best BSE thats possible. But players reserve the right to go back home if they want.
 
I wonder if players can focus on cricket with the Covid mayhem going on
 
They need to trim down the fixtures and possibly move the tournament to a safer venue maybe UAE.
IPL does generate a lot of money and might well be providing livelihood to a lot of people in the organizing affairs, chartered hotels and stuff. But now that there is no chance of crowd being allowed during the current schedule of IPL, holding it in India is only going to be more dangerous.

I don't know if the money spent or gained during IPL by BCCI comes and goes through GOI, if it does, I think it should better be spent to save lives rather than spending it on cricket.

Players are only going to keep withdrawing from the league now that the situation in India is getting worse and worse.

Hope saving as many lives as possible should be the priority now.
 
They need to trim down the fixtures and possibly move the tournament to a safer venue maybe UAE.
IPL does generate a lot of money and might well be providing livelihood to a lot of people in the organizing affairs, chartered hotels and stuff. But now that there is no chance of crowd being allowed during the current schedule of IPL, holding it in India is only going to be more dangerous.

I don't know if the money spent or gained during IPL by BCCI comes and goes through GOI, if it does, I think it should better be spent to save lives rather than spending it on cricket.

Players are only going to keep withdrawing from the league now that the situation in India is getting worse and worse.

Hope saving as many lives as possible should be the priority now.

GOI doesn't spend on IPL.
 
Players have the right to pull out. BCCI and IPL can provide the best BSE thats possible. But players reserve the right to go back home if they want.

Exactly. If the players feel unsafe they will leave, and the franchises respect their right to do so.

Sadly, some of our posters here think that these players will take bullets for IPL money.

However, we should not be surprised that these posters have been left red-faced as usual. Whatever they say backfires in spectacular fashion.

The jealously and bitterness over IPL is too great for us to think rationally and use our common sense.
 
I would be surprised if this happened. The pressure behind the scenes to remain will be insane.

You can rest assured that the BCCI has delivered clear messages to the foreign players and the boards that they must stay in the tournament at all costs or face future consequences.

It's unthinkable that a crisis like this could be going on in any other test playing country and the vast majority of players would still be there playing. The sums involved with IPL are simply too high for anyone to leave unless pushed.

Ashwin, Zampa, Richardson pulled out of IPL due to covid. And I am sure more players will follow in coming days.
Your theory of BCCI threatening players to not leave IPL mid way didn't even last one day after posting.
 
Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan has just given a furious press conference and condemned Australian players in the IPL.

His state has just endured a three day lockdown due to some imbecile going to India to get married and bringing back the virus, and infecting two innocent families.

Countless weddings in Perth - best estimate around 500 - had to be cancelled this long weekend due to the reckless traveller’s “need” to get married in India.

McGowan has set the tone now in Australia: players returning from the IPL will be closely scrutinised in case they get the virus in transit on their way home from the “bubble” and if they test positive their future as sportsmen in this country will be very bleak indeed.
 
Exactly. If the players feel unsafe they will leave, and the franchises respect their right to do so.

Sadly, some of our posters here think that these players will take bullets for IPL money.

However, we should not be surprised that these posters have been left red-faced as usual. Whatever they say backfires in spectacular fashion.

The jealously and bitterness over IPL is too great for us to think rationally and use our common sense.

Nobody is jealous of IPL....bcoz none of us are active professional players......so in any way we r never gonna be take part in it....and have a share of the moolah....

Come to the point...... i e humanity .... In most part of India Covid is rising rapidly..
.it's rising almost 4 lakhs per day in India....and those r not only delhi r maharashtra.....entire India...

So not only as a viewer we would feel uncomfortable to enjoy such razzmatazz in a critical.time....ita like ..having a rock concert amid famine and civil war....

As is getting clear...day by day many players r getting uncomfortable and are leaving.....yes big guns might think before doing so....but the list is growing....

It's about conscience which is not common in everybody....even not in a active covid patient or not in a active doctor too...

Big hats off to Ashwin one of the genuine cricketer around....a fighter on and off the filed who doesnot necessarily have the aggression or presence of some other A Listers.....


Hope good sense prevailed......
 
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Ashwin, Zampa, Richardson pulled out of IPL due to covid. And I am sure more players will follow in coming days.
Your theory of BCCI threatening players to not leave IPL mid way didn't even last one day after posting.

All “theories” regarding the evil BCCI get debunked again and again but our fans simply don’t learn.
 
All “theories” regarding the evil BCCI get debunked again and again but our fans simply don’t learn.

Don't know how it is getting debunked....
The urge to get a official separate window from March to May further vindicate it...

Doctors nowadays are not only insensitive but also delusional too...
 
Nobody is jealous of IPL....bcoz none of us are active professional players......so in any way we r never gonna be take part in it....and have a share of the moolah....

Come to the point...... i e humanity .... In most part of India Covid is rising rapidly..
.it's rising almost 4 lakhs per day in India....and those r not only delhi r maharashtra.....entire India...

So not only as a viewer we would feel uncomfortable to enjoy such razzmatazz in a critical.time....ita like ..having a rock concert amid famine and civil war....

As is getting clear...day by day many players r getting uncomfortable and are leaving.....yes big guns might think before doing so....but the list is growing....

It's about conscience which is not common in everybody....even not in a active covid patient or not in a active doctor too...

Big hats off the Ashwin one of the genuine cricketer around....a fighter on and off the filed who doesnot necessarily have the aggression or presence of some other A Listers.....


Hope good sense prevailed......

As I said previously, I think IPL should be postponed because it is not the right time when you look at the situation in India.

If the players feel it is time to leave, they will leave and BCCI will not stand in their way because they understand the situation.

Unfortunately, our fans refuse to understand and let go of their delusional mindset. Their theory that foreign players will risk their lives for $ and BCCI will threaten them and force them to stay has backfired spectacularly just like all other BCCI related theories.
 
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Don't know how it is getting debunked....
The urge to get a official separate window from March to May further vindicate it...

Doctors nowadays are not only insensitive but also delusional too...

The window is not for IPL but for international cricket.

The IPL window saves international cricket because if there is no IPL window, no international team will be able to play a series during IPL season with its full-strength players, which is it is necessary to have an IPL window.
 
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