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Should PCB consider recalling Pakistani players from the ongoing BPL?

Should PCB consider recalling Pakistani players from the ongoing BPL?


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BCB's latest comments seem to indicate that they now have doubts about sending a T20I team to Pakistan. A couple of days ago, they seemed to approve of T20Is in Pakistan which would act as an assessment for future Tests, but the latest comments from the BCB President imply that Tests at a neutral venue is their final stance while the T20Is are now in doubt.

If the situation continues to escalate, with half of the BPL still to be played, should PCB recall Pakistani contingent? The likes of Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz, Shadab Khan, Shahid Afridi etc. are taking part.
 
There is no need to recall these players.PCB should refuse to play any matches with Bangladesh national team except ICC tournaments.
 
Ultimately the players are the ones who suffer by decisions taken in board rooms. Amir, Wahab, Shadab would lose a good amount of their earnings or maybe even get banned from future BPLs.
 
I think too early to do any of such adventures. But the way BCB has been acting lately and changing stances every week, this may happen eventually.
 
If we do, then what?

The main priority of PCB should be to maintain good relations with other cricket boards, as that is the only way to have other nations come to Pakistan.

BCCI has indicated their malice towards Pakistan, openly acknowledging that isolation of Pakistan cricket is what they desire. Knowing the wicked intentions of BCCI, PCB should not fall into their traps and sully their relations with other boards. This will only bring harm to Pakistan cricket.

Moving forward, PCB must try to convince cricket boards to come to Pakistan without damaging their relations.
 
If we do, then what?

The main priority of PCB should be to maintain good relations with other cricket boards, as that is the only way to have other nations come to Pakistan.

BCCI has indicated their malice towards Pakistan, openly acknowledging that isolation of Pakistan cricket is what they desire. Knowing the wicked intentions of BCCI, PCB should not fall into their traps and sully their relations with other boards. This will only bring harm to Pakistan cricket.

Moving forward, PCB must try to convince cricket boards to come to Pakistan without damaging their relations.

Good post
 
If we do, then what?

The main priority of PCB should be to maintain good relations with other cricket boards, as that is the only way to have other nations come to Pakistan.

BCCI has indicated their malice towards Pakistan, openly acknowledging that isolation of Pakistan cricket is what they desire. Knowing the wicked intentions of BCCI, PCB should not fall into their traps and sully their relations with other boards. This will only bring harm to Pakistan cricket.

Moving forward, PCB must try to convince cricket boards to come to Pakistan without damaging their relations.

Something sensible for once.
 
Ultimately the players are the ones who suffer by decisions taken in board rooms. Amir, Wahab, Shadab would lose a good amount of their earnings or maybe even get banned from future BPLs.

True, don't want any more YouTube channels run by Pak players.
 
The last time PCB pulled out their players from a league i.e. the IPL, it didn't end up too well for them, did it?

Would be very foolish to repeat the same mistake again.

Muscles should be flexed by those who are in positions of power. PCB certainly isn't in that position right now. If they care about Pakistan cricket, they would act more prudently. But if they want to act on emotion and repeat past mistakes then nobody can stop the demise of Pakistan cricket.
 
No it will actually backfire us more due to our players’ excess greed and lack of nepotism.
PCB just cancel the series and don’t bother any future bilateral series.
 
It was PK that helped them. How long did it take Ind to invite them.

You do realise how touring works in cricket, right? If Bangladesh tours India, then BCCI makes the majority of the money. If India tours Bangladesh then BCB makes the bulk of the profits. Bangladesh played their maiden test against India. And since then India has regularly toured Bangladesh. If anything, BCCI has done far more for BCB than PCB ever has.
 
If this to happen, more Pakistan players may renounce test cricket and become mercenaries like Amir, peddling their short-lives skills for a few bucks across minor leagues.

Pakistan should not antagonise every test playing nation.
 
Unless you want more Mohammad Amer situation.

Is Amir really irreplaceable? There was no T20 even around 2000 . Didn’t our players survive to support their families? Our new generation only use National team to get better offer in T20 leagues just like WI team. I bet even if India stop IPL and reduce national players’ salary by 40%, 90% players will be happy to earn their living playing First class local league where earning is far less than playing IPL
 
How About PCB be smart about it. Let them come for T20 series, make a profit out of it while they can. Let BCB see the situation and let them determine what steps need to be taken from them, once the T20 series has been played in a positive manner, ask BCB if they still have any reservations, if they have then just simply say, when you are ready - let us know we will play the test series then, but remember until you fulfill our fixtures of test series, we will not be touring BD for your home series against us either. So you can take your time in deciding what you want to do. PCB are not in positions to make demands, cricket has returned but full confidence in hosting series has not.
 
Despite a lot of support for this idea on social media, I agree with most of the above comments that it would be pretty extreme and would only make things worse.

Probably won't be something under consideration unless BCB now decide to pull out of the T20Is as well, which hopefully won't happen.
 
If we do, then what?

The main priority of PCB should be to maintain good relations with other cricket boards, as that is the only way to have other nations come to Pakistan.

BCCI has indicated their malice towards Pakistan, openly acknowledging that isolation of Pakistan cricket is what they desire. Knowing the wicked intentions of BCCI, PCB should not fall into their traps and sully their relations with other boards. This will only bring harm to Pakistan cricket.

Moving forward, PCB must try to convince cricket boards to come to Pakistan without damaging their relations.

BCCI has wicked intentions? And as if PCB wants the best for BCCI. If PCB had the power BCCI has today, with the usual lunatics running the board, they would have tried everything to destroy BCCI and Indian cricket. Mani and Miandad have already shared a trailer of their intentions.
 
How About PCB be smart about it. Let them come for T20 series, make a profit out of it while they can. Let BCB see the situation and let them determine what steps need to be taken from them, once the T20 series has been played in a positive manner, ask BCB if they still have any reservations, if they have then just simply say, when you are ready - let us know we will play the test series then, but remember until you fulfill our fixtures of test series, we will not be touring BD for your home series against us either. So you can take your time in deciding what you want to do. PCB are not in positions to make demands, cricket has returned but full confidence in hosting series has not.

The issue with delaying tactics is that the Test series is a part of the WTC. If it's not played in Jan/Feb as originally scheduled then it will have to be in April which is not a month Pakistan usually hosts matches in, plus there's no telling what BCB will say about that. May and June are way too hot, and after that, Pakistan have a packed schedule from July 2020 to April 2021. May 2021 would be the last chance to host the series before the WTC cycle comes to an end, but again, can't host in May.
 
If this to happen, more Pakistan players may renounce test cricket and become mercenaries like Amir, peddling their short-lives skills for a few bucks across minor leagues.

Pakistan should not antagonise every test playing nation.

As if these players bringing us 3~4 World cups and we are no. 1-2 in every format. Most of our players are too busy to get selected in these franchise leagues using their national team’s spots.
If you think without BPL/CPL Pakistan team will be finished than we deserve to be finished that way. Without PCB no new players will survive these so called leagues
 
BCCI has wicked intentions? And as if PCB wants the best for BCCI. If PCB had the power BCCI has today, with the usual lunatics running the board, they would have tried everything to destroy BCCI and Indian cricket. Mani and Miandad have already shared a trailer of their intentions.

What are talking about? Recently BCCI wanted to block Pakistan cricket team from World Cup. They tried but no succeed
 
I don’t think it’ll work - for PAK it’s even risky. Last time PCB decided to block PAK players from BPL for participating in National T20 - every PAK player ended in BPL by half way, leaving the business end of NT20.

Just about a decade back, in Dhaka a League there were plenty of PAK players playing and I myself recruited few. In last 10-12 years, that number has come down to almost zero - loser is only the PAK players because now Indians, Afghans, Lankans & few English/WINDs are taking that place.

One reason is the quality of PAK players, but main reason is the relationship between two boards. And I can confirm that it has nothing about politics - Abahani KC is a family club of Sheikh Hasina, founded by his late brother... two of their regular players for over a decade were Wasim Akram, Zahoor Elahi.. and many other PAK players.
 
What are talking about? Recently BCCI wanted to block Pakistan cricket team from World Cup. They tried but no succeed

Pakistan wanted the 2011 WC to be shifted out of India.

Sued BCCI.

I can go on and on.
 
Who played the first test with them?

When was the last time pakistan invited them?

Who was the ICC supremo who helped them get test status?

And who took decades to invite them. And the reason the Inds backed them was to get a extra vote at the ICC and defeat the England-Aus axis, we saw how much they rated and developed their game by the the time it took them to invite BD for a test.
 
You do realise how touring works in cricket, right? If Bangladesh tours India, then BCCI makes the majority of the money. If India tours Bangladesh then BCB makes the bulk of the profits. Bangladesh played their maiden test against India. And since then India has regularly toured Bangladesh. If anything, BCCI has done far more for BCB than PCB ever has.

I know the Inds are obsessed with money but It's also about respect and izzat.
 
I think it's to be expected that NOCs for Pakistani players in future for the BPL are going to be extremely difficult.
 
Because pcb/bcb can't get thier act together, you want players to suffer in this scenerio? recalling them will only hurt player's wallet. So, NO!
 
What are talking about? Recently BCCI wanted to block Pakistan cricket team from World Cup. They tried but no succeed

You have to see why they did that. Seeing an event without context can be misleading.
 
And who took decades to invite them. And the reason the Inds backed them was to get a extra vote at the ICC and defeat the England-Aus axis, we saw how much they rated and developed their game by the the time it took them to invite BD for a test.

Point is it was BCCI that help BD get test status.

When was the last time Pakistan invited BD to play a test? Why dont you answer that?
 
If we do, then what?

The main priority of PCB should be to maintain good relations with other cricket boards, as that is the only way to have other nations come to Pakistan.

BCCI has indicated their malice towards Pakistan, openly acknowledging that isolation of Pakistan cricket is what they desire. Knowing the wicked intentions of BCCI, PCB should not fall into their traps and sully their relations with other boards. This will only bring harm to Pakistan cricket.

Moving forward, PCB must try to convince cricket boards to come to Pakistan without damaging their relations.

Good post. We don't have the capacity to strong arm any boards at the moment. The era where Pakistan were a powerhouse are long gone and we need to accept that.
 
No.
Serves no purpose. The need is to repair relationship with BCB and not to wreck it further. Both BCB and PCB will benefit from good relationship.
 
Point is it was BCCI that help BD get test status.

When was the last time Pakistan invited BD to play a test? Why dont you answer that?

The BCCI couldn't care less about BD, it was done to wrestle control of the ICC. Unless you have been a hermit, we haven't played much at home for the last 10 years.
 
BCB's latest comments seem to indicate that they now have doubts about sending a T20I team to Pakistan. A couple of days ago, they seemed to approve of T20Is in Pakistan which would act as an assessment for future Tests, but the latest comments from the BCB President imply that Tests at a neutral venue is their final stance while the T20Is are now in doubt.

If the situation continues to escalate, with half of the BPL still to be played, should PCB recall Pakistani contingent? The likes of Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz, Shadab Khan, Shahid Afridi etc. are taking part.

BPL Wasa huge failure when they did it last time and they had to abandon the league for 2-3 years.

I reckon they deserve this and PCB should do this.
 
The BCCI couldn't care less about BD, it was done to wrestle control of the ICC. Unless you have been a hermit, we haven't played much at home for the last 10 years.

BCCI anyways had control. Thats why Dalmiya was ICC boss.

Thing is pakistanis had little to do with BDs test status and has had little to do with BDs cricket development, considering they have not played a away series vs pakistan for a decade. But its not surprising, the sense of entitlement is not new here.
 
BCCI anyways had control. Thats why Dalmiya was ICC boss.

Thing is pakistanis had little to do with BDs test status and has had little to do with BDs cricket development, considering they have not played a away series vs pakistan for a decade. But its not surprising, the sense of entitlement is not new here.

India as far as I recall didn't play Bangladesh in a Test match at home until 2017....... that's 17 years after they got Test status.
 
India as far as I recall didn't play Bangladesh in a Test match at home until 2017....... that's 17 years after they got Test status.

India was the first team to play a test vs BD.

Correct me if i am wrong but the test match count between BD vs Pak is 10 matches

And India v BD is 11 test matches.

India toured BD in 2000,2004,2007,2010,2015. A India tour is a jackpot for the home board, so that was how BCCI helped BCB.

BCB has toured India in 2017 and 2019
 
BCCI anyways had control. Thats why Dalmiya was ICC boss.

Thing is pakistanis had little to do with BDs test status and has had little to do with BDs cricket development, considering they have not played a away series vs pakistan for a decade. But its not surprising, the sense of entitlement is not new here.

Not in 99. It was PK that helped developed their cricket, you just used them.
 
India was the first team to play a test vs BD.

Correct me if i am wrong but the test match count between BD vs Pak is 10 matches

And India v BD is 11 test matches.

India toured BD in 2000,2004,2007,2010,2015. A India tour is a jackpot for the home board, so that was how BCCI helped BCB.

BCB has toured India in 2017 and 2019

So India has played 1 more Test versus Bangladesh than Pakistan has and you are making a big deal of it lol.

17 years before India invited Bangladesh.........
 
Not in 99. It was PK that helped developed their cricket, you just used them.

What not in 99? Dalmiya became ICC president in 1997. Bcci started having a major say in ICC early 90s, with the removal of veto.

This self declared help by PK again goes very well with the self entitlement.
 
What not in 99? Dalmiya became ICC president in 1997. Bcci started having a major say in ICC early 90s, with the removal of veto.

This self declared help by PK again goes very well with the self entitlement.

In 99, Ind didn't have the power it has today. It needed the poor BD's for the votes.
 
So India has played 1 more Test versus Bangladesh than Pakistan has and you are making a big deal of it lol.

17 years before India invited Bangladesh.........

Pakistan hasnt played a test with BD for how many years?

India has visited BD 5 times in 19 years, that amounts to a financial windfall, no one else can match. Thats how a poor, upcoming board is helped.

When Mr Dalmiya passed away, the BCB chief and a delegation paid their tributes. All Bangladesh NCL matches observed a minutes silence snd wore black arm bands.

Even before the test status, Dalmiya had put BD firmly on the cricket map by hosting the first ICC knock out in BD in 1998.

Anyways i really want to know if pcb and bcb communicate via emails and calls or through media.

Why everything has to be told to the media when situation is fluid?
 
In 99, Ind didn't have the power it has today. It needed the poor BD's for the votes.

Lol.

India had power thats why Dalmiya won and become ICC president beating Aussie Malcolm Gray.

India was instrumental in getting the veto abolished.

India and Bcci got SA back into ICC way back in 1991.

Post 1987 WC where Bcci managed to get a sponsorship of $5mn from the title sponsor, many times more than what ECB, got in 1983, BCCIs status within the ICC started improving.

With all due respect, you need to read history of these things.
 
Pakistan hasnt played a test with BD for how many years?

India has visited BD 5 times in 19 years, that amounts to a financial windfall, no one else can match. Thats how a poor, upcoming board is helped.

When Mr Dalmiya passed away, the BCB chief and a delegation paid their tributes. All Bangladesh NCL matches observed a minutes silence snd wore black arm bands.

Even before the test status, Dalmiya had put BD firmly on the cricket map by hosting the first ICC knock out in BD in 1998.

Anyways i really want to know if pcb and bcb communicate via emails and calls or through media.

Why everything has to be told to the media when situation is fluid?

Pakistan can only play them if the opponent is willing to.

If they keep making excuse after excuse then what can Pakistan do.

17 years...........
 
Lol.

India had power thats why Dalmiya won and become ICC president beating Aussie Malcolm Gray.

India was instrumental in getting the veto abolished.

India and Bcci got SA back into ICC way back in 1991.

Post 1987 WC where Bcci managed to get a sponsorship of $5mn from the title sponsor, many times more than what ECB, got in 1983, BCCIs status within the ICC started improving.

With all due respect, you need to read history of these things.

Ind had power but it needed our help, the White countries stuck together because they didn't trust them to use any power wisely and how right they were. SA was part of the white countries and Ind needed extra votes and BD was part of the plan.
 
Pakistan hasnt played a test with BD for how many years?

India has visited BD 5 times in 19 years, that amounts to a financial windfall, no one else can match. Thats how a poor, upcoming board is helped.

When Mr Dalmiya passed away, the BCB chief and a delegation paid their tributes. All Bangladesh NCL matches observed a minutes silence snd wore black arm bands.

Even before the test status, Dalmiya had put BD firmly on the cricket map by hosting the first ICC knock out in BD in 1998.

Anyways i really want to know if pcb and bcb communicate via emails and calls or through media.

Why everything has to be told to the media when situation is fluid?

We've played 10 tests against them, you've played 11. We'll be at 12 after this series. So I don't see how you've helped them more than us.

We played BD in BD just 4 years ago in 2015 so what are you on about?
 
I know the Inds are obsessed with money but It's also about respect and izzat.

Where was this respect and izzat of PCB when they called back Amir,the same guy later turned back on his nation again by choosing t20 leagues overvtesr cricket.

PCB didn't even have the brain to cancel his national contract which so many fans here keep suggesting.

PCB won't take any such actions becsuse they know that more players will go Mohammed Amir way.
 
Where was this respect and izzat of PCB when they called back Amir,the same guy later turned back on his nation again by choosing t20 leagues overvtesr cricket.

PCB didn't even have the brain to cancel his national contract which so many fans here keep suggesting.

PCB won't take any such actions becsuse they know that more players will go Mohammed Amir way.

This is just one player but Based on that basis the whole of the IPL should be shut down. Who was the fixer in chief of the Chennai team?
 
Pakistan can only play them if the opponent is willing to.

If they keep making excuse after excuse then what can Pakistan do.

17 years...........


Why no tests in UAE? Pakistan hosted other teams in UAE?
 
Ind had power but it needed our help, the White countries stuck together because they didn't trust them to use any power wisely and how right they were. SA was part of the white countries and Ind needed extra votes and BD was part of the plan.

As i said, please read history.
Bcci had support of 6 of the 9 boards. Only Aus Eng NZ were againist. Even without PCB, bcci had 5 votes.

Bcci had turned the tables on aus and Eng by getting SA and ZIM into ICC by 1992. Thats how cleverly Dalmiya played the game.
 
Because Bangladesh are minnows in test cricket.

How many times have we hosted Zimbabwe in the UAE? Huh.

Stop making this into something that it's not

Did you host them in UAE for a LOI series?

Stop lying about pakistan caring for BD cricket.
 
Did you host them in UAE for a LOI series?

Stop lying about pakistan caring for BD cricket.

Pakistan cricket did help BD get official status. Many of our cricketers went to play in Bangladesh to support them before they had official status and we even graciously lost a match to them in the 99 world cup :) Hosting them in UAE would actually probably cost us money considering how expensive it is to play series’ there. Instead we toured BD.

TBH, every post I see from you is some jingoistic thing against Pak cricket... still don’t understand why you are on this forum.

Anyway, on the broader topic - no, Pakistan should not revoke NOC’s for BPL. It is a question of pride vs common sense. Create good relations with other boards. Show patience. But when it comes to test cricket, we should not play BD or any other team for that matter in the UAE.
 
Pakistan cricket did help BD get official status. Many of our cricketers went to play in Bangladesh to support them before they had official status and we even graciously lost a match to them in the 99 world cup :) Hosting them in UAE would actually probably cost us money considering how expensive it is to play series’ there. Instead we toured BD.

TBH, every post I see from you is some jingoistic thing against Pak cricket... still don’t understand why you are on this forum.

Anyway, on the broader topic - no, Pakistan should not revoke NOC’s for BPL. It is a question of pride vs common sense. Create good relations with other boards. Show patience. But when it comes to test cricket, we should not play BD or any other team for that matter in the UAE.

With all due respect,

It was Dalmiya who helped BD get test status. A fact bcb acknowledges.

Indians too played in the Dhaka league. Am i wrong [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] .

BD will probably get in more sponsors and spectators than a WI or NZ team.


Problem is pakistanis feel BD is a inferior country as their team is weak so they deserve lesser treatment. Thats something i have issues with.
 
No Pakistani players should use any opportunity to showcase their talent, ESP in Bangladesh. They should outperform Bdesh players in Bdesh and then thank Pakistan’s domestic system and skill
Level in the country that made them
Better players than Bdesh.

Just embarrass Bdesh players.

If they win any awards, thank Pakistani public for support.
 
Why do you think that FA don't allow any footballers to bet on any matches, never mind people that have a direct interest.

It was the team owners who indulged in betting and they were rightfully stripped off their ownership along with a 2 year ban on their teams.

Where do the playeres come into this ?
 
No point recalling players, looks petty.
If bangladesh dont tour, then.the pcb, next year should refuse NOC to contracted players to play in bpl.
 
This is just one player but Based on that basis the whole of the IPL should be shut down. Who was the fixer in chief of the Chennai team?

Not only you deflected goal post but also posted factually incorrect things in your response.

Nowhere I have asked for banning anything. Chennai team was banned because involvement of one of it's co owner in betting.

Amir wasn't the only tainted player to be brought back by Pakistan. Justice Qayyum also saved a legendary Cricketer back in 90s.So Pakistan Cricket doesn't have any respect or izzat you are boasting about. It has been run by incompetent individuals for long(barring Najam Sethi). But they are not that foolish to take such decisions like revoking NOC for BPL as it would affect their relation with the 5th richest board with a very competitive team getting better with time.
 
As i said, please read history.
Bcci had support of 6 of the 9 boards. Only Aus Eng NZ were againist. Even without PCB, bcci had 5 votes.

Bcci had turned the tables on aus and Eng by getting SA and ZIM into ICC by 1992. Thats how cleverly Dalmiya played the game.

Ind didn't get SA into the ICC, SA was always close to England. Zimbabwe in those days was also close to England. Ind needed BD for the votes
 
Not only you deflected goal post but also posted factually incorrect things in your response.

Nowhere I have asked for banning anything. Chennai team was banned because involvement of one of it's co owner in betting.

Amir wasn't the only tainted player to be brought back by Pakistan. Justice Qayyum also saved a legendary Cricketer back in 90s.So Pakistan Cricket doesn't have any respect or izzat you are boasting about. It has been run by incompetent individuals for long(barring Najam Sethi). But they are not that foolish to take such decisions like revoking NOC for BPL as it would affect their relation with the 5th richest board with a very competitive team getting better with time.

So a Co owner betting is a small thing. Inds Talking about betting is like funny, having you forgotten SreeSanth, Jadeja, Prab, Azhar to name just a few. Remember Kepil crying on TV.
 
It was the team owners who indulged in betting and they were rightfully stripped off their ownership along with a 2 year ban on their teams.

Where do the playeres come into this ?

And team owners can't influence selections and tactics. BTW where is Lalit Modi these days?
 
Problem is pakistanis feel BD is a inferior country as their team is weak so they deserve lesser treatment. Thats something i have issues with.

And you seem to think everyone and everything is inferior to India.
 
Not only you deflected goal post but also posted factually incorrect things in your response.

Nowhere I have asked for banning anything. Chennai team was banned because involvement of one of it's co owner in betting.

Amir wasn't the only tainted player to be brought back by Pakistan. Justice Qayyum also saved a legendary Cricketer back in 90s.So Pakistan Cricket doesn't have any respect or izzat you are boasting about. It has been run by incompetent individuals for long(barring Najam Sethi). But they are not that foolish to take such decisions like revoking NOC for BPL as it would affect their relation with the 5th richest board with a very competitive team getting better with time.
:))) :))) :)))

Their BEST World Cup performance ended with a number eight finish. In Tests, they are just cannon-fodder. Just because everyone likes to think Bangladesh is getting better, doesn't mean it's true.
 
Ind didn't get SA into the ICC, SA was always close to England. Zimbabwe in those days was also close to England. Ind needed BD for the votes

You know nothing. Please google about SA entry into ICC. You will know who aided it and who was instrumental.

Both Zim and SA voted for Dalmiya againist Malcolm Gray of Aus.

Please read before posting.
 
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