Sinead O'Connor renounces Catholicism and converts to Islam

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BY: Aidan Lonergan
October 25, 2018
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IRISH singer Sinead O'Connor has revealed she has renounced Catholicism and converted to Islam, taking the new name "Shuhada' Davitt".

O'Connor, who last year changed her legal name to Magda Davitt, said she had ditched the Catholic Church for good in a message to fans on Twitter.

The 51-year-old was previously ordained a priest by a breakaway Catholic sect, the Irish Orthodox Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the late 1990s.

But in a series of recent tweets, the Dubliner revealed she had swapped the clerical collar for the hijab and become a Muslim.

"This is to announce that I am proud to have become a Muslim," she wrote.

"This is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey. All scripture study leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant.

"I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada’."

The musician, who underwent intensive mental health treatment in the US last year with the help of Dr Phil, went on to post a video of herself singing the Adhan - the Islamic call to prayer.

"Here is my 1st attempt at singing the Azan [sic]," she wrote. "I got some pronouncition [sic] wrong because emotions took me from my page... but there’ll be hundreds of others onstage to come".

In another tweet, she added: "Sorry re all the mistakes in my Azan.... 1st attempt. When I’ve practiced it 30 times i’m Gonna make the world stop turning".

O'Connor also revealed she had received her first Hijab with the help of a friend in Dublin.

"My best friend, Elaine just gave me my 1st Hijab and she got chills all over her body when I put it on," she wrote.

"Not gonna post a photo because is intensely personal. And I’m an ugly old hag. But I’m a very, very, very happy old hag."

https://www.irishpost.com/entertain...BYAffEFiezSZt2Ysb_qXp-yQKr-ky3W99oreVgmAPziUc

Im not posting this because I get satisfaction when someone converts, feel happy for them but nothing more.

I found it interesting as a great vocalist her singing of the call to prayer. It was really bad but of course shoudn't be criticised, just found it very bad because of who she is.

 

[Hitman]

Is it compulsory for anyone converting to Islam to have their name changed?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is it compulsory for anyone converting to Islam to have their name changed?

Asfaik only if your name is linked to something forbidden or meaning something which puts partners with God but I might be wrong.

 

[gazza619]

Is it compulsory for anyone converting to Islam to have their name changed?

It depends what their previous name was. Some names are considered acceptable for Muslims. I think it ends up as a personal choice but your name is your identity. I am not sure if it is compulsory but to embrace the religion fully one must change their name.

 

[faraz39]

It depends what their previous name was. Some names are considered acceptable for Muslims. I think it ends up as a personal choice but your name is your identity. I am not sure if it is compulsory but to embrace the religion fully one must change their name.

There is no reason at all to change your name unless it means something bad. People often do so because it indicates a new beginning.

 

[PakLFC]

Soon she'll convert to another religion. These celebrities see converting to another religion as a means to get tongues wagging. Actor Wesley Snipes has been a Christian, Muslim and Buddhist! Due to the negative connotations attached to it converting to Islam for attention is what they want.

 

[James]

Don’t get me wrong, I respect Islam a lot, but Sinead O’Connor is a massive attention seeker with a long history of erratic behaviour and publicity stunts. Her name, appearance, sexual orientation and religion have changed in the past numerous times, and she has randomly gone missing before as well, only to be found safe and sound a while later. She does this stuff to keep herself in the news I’m afraid.

 

[Kroll]

Don’t get me wrong, I respect Islam a lot, but Sinead O’Connor is a massive attention seeker with a long history of erratic behaviour and publicity stunts. Her name, appearance, sexual orientation and religion have changed in the past numerous times, and she has randomly gone missing before as well, only to be found safe and sound a while later. She does this stuff to keep herself in the news I’m afraid.

That's quite sad if she's just using religion as a vehicle for her own publicity. But I hope in this occasion, she does mean it and can rightfully conclude her theological journey as she states in the interview.

 

[cric_man]

Don’t get me wrong, I respect Islam a lot, but Sinead O’Connor is a massive attention seeker with a long history of erratic behaviour and publicity stunts. Her name, appearance, sexual orientation and religion have changed in the past numerous times, and she has randomly gone missing before as well, only to be found safe and sound a while later. She does this stuff to keep herself in the news I’m afraid.

I think she is bi-polar unfortunately and not an attention seeker. She has done inexplicable stuff in the past that derailed her other wise decent singing career.

 

[Swashbuckler]

She is a lesbian, I doubt that is compatible with the Islamic way of life. Anyway good luck to her and hope she isn't doing this for publicity.

 

[srh]

Don’t get me wrong, I respect Islam a lot, but Sinead O’Connor is a massive attention seeker with a long history of erratic behaviour and publicity stunts. Her name, appearance, sexual orientation and religion have changed in the past numerous times, and she has randomly gone missing before as well, only to be found safe and sound a while later. She does this stuff to keep herself in the news I’m afraid.

may she get the serenity now missing before

 

[KingKhanWC]

I think she is bi-polar unfortunately and not an attention seeker. She has done inexplicable stuff in the past that derailed her other wise decent singing career.

I thought the video was odd. Sad to hear, hope she finds some peace. Of course she needs medical help but listening to the Quran brings peace to a lot of people.

 

[James]

Even the bipolar thing is in doubt. Some of her doctors say that she has it, whilst others have assessed her and say that she does not.

An enigmatic individual.

 

[James]

She is a lesbian, I doubt that is compatible with the Islamic way of life. Anyway good luck to her and hope she isn't doing this for publicity.

She has been married to four different blokes and has divorced all of them. She also has four kids - some to ex-husbands, some to other guys.

Not sounding like much of a lesbian so far really.

She declared herself a lesbian once but has made contradicting statements over the years.

 

[IMMY69]

So we until she announces she’s become a Jew or a Hindu....

 

[Bewal Express]

I agree with the sentiment expressed by others- she will change again soon. But if its genuine then may Allah guide her to a life of inner peace which obviously she is missing.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Why is it news when some white person converts though, just seems some people have a party every time it happens lol.

As [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] alluded too anyway, this woman is mentally not well in any way shape or form. She has gained some respect here (Aside from her singing) for being a vocal and very public advocate against the Church years back which made her appear deranged but actually ended up being spot on once the child abuse scandal broke, however she's clearly unwell. Goes missing constantly, alluded once to committing suicide before simply turning up no problem at all. Definitely not the full shilling.

In short she probably is doing it for the attention. Has made a career out of being the rebel, probably another stage. If not I wish her well

 

[El Generico]

Why is it news when some white person converts though, just seems some people have a party every time it happens lol

Out of the 17 post on this thread, can you point out any in which someone was celebrating or "having a party". Just point out one or two posts of that nature.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Out of the 17 post on this thread, can you point out any in which someone was celebrating or "having a party". Just point out one or two posts of that nature.

The fact the thread exists and I'm sure twitter probably has loads of people talking about it, though admittedly that last bit is a guess I have seen some tweets though.

If some Indian washed up celeb of SOC's calibre converted doubt anybody would care......

 

[KingKhanWC]

The fact the thread exists and I'm sure twitter probably has loads of people talking about it, though admittedly that last bit is a guess I have seen some tweets though.

If some Indian washed up celeb of SOC's calibre converted doubt anybody would care......

Relax, nobody cares if some Irish white man/woman converts. For the second time in case you missed it first time, I found it interesting the way she was 'singing' the call to prayer, being a famous artist it was weird how baldy it was done but posters have explained which makes sense.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Relax, nobody cares if some Irish white man/woman converts. For the second time in case you missed it first time, I found it interesting the way she was 'singing' the call to prayer, being a famous artist it was weird how baldy it was done but posters have explained which makes sense.

My statement wasnt directed at anyone in the thread fwiw, more so twitter. But its definitely something I've noticed.

 

[James]

When a White Westerner converts it does seem to be big news in the Muslim community, and I think this makes sense - because the Western and Muslim cultures are quite different - so it woujd typically take a very powerful, beautiful, simple and convincing religious message to transcend those man-made boundaries.

 

[Hitman]

It depends what their previous name was. Some names are considered acceptable for Muslims. I think it ends up as a personal choice but your name is your identity. I am not sure if it is compulsory but to embrace the religion fully one must change their name.

I'm asking this because every celebrity I've heard of who has converted to Islam has changed his/her name.

 

[s28]

When a White Westerner converts it does seem to be big news in the Muslim community, and I think this makes sense - because the Western and Muslim cultures are quite different - so it woujd typically take a very powerful, beautiful, simple and convincing religious message to transcend those man-made boundaries.

Well given the history and the attempts by many to portray Islam as an 'existential threat' to Western society it is a major development. I hope she personally finds peace in her journey. It will also trigger a lot of the right wing knuckle draggers which is an added benefit. Some may themselves see the light whilst others will double down on their belief that the 'Muslamics' will take over.

 

[Gilly]

Well given the history and the attempts by many to portray Islam as an 'existential threat' to Western society it is a major development. I hope she personally finds peace in her journey. It will also trigger a lot of the right wing knuckle draggers which is an added benefit. Some may themselves see the light whilst others will double down on their belief that the 'Muslamics' will take over.

The only benefit is these right wing knuckle draggers will then trigger the islamic extremists which continues the cycle, it would be much better if no one is triggered and she goes about her business and everyone else continues with their own business.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The fact the thread exists and I'm sure twitter probably has loads of people talking about it, though admittedly that last bit is a guess I have seen some tweets though.

If some Indian washed up celeb of SOC's calibre converted doubt anybody would care......

That's only because an Indian washed up celebrity would presumably have less stature worldwide anyway. Mohammed Ali wasn't white, but because he was a massive star, he had far bigger impact as a convert. If someone like Kohli converted, obviously it would have a bigger impact than if some washed up celebrity did.

I'm not sure it's a Muslim thing though, I think Indian celebrities just have a perceived lesser status in the world generally.

 

[DeadBall]

Maybe she's afraid Khabib will come after her next.

 

[El Generico]

I'm asking this because every celebrity I've heard of who has converted to Islam has changed his/her name.

IIRC Wayne Parnell didn't change his name.

 

[shaz619]

It's funny how people like [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] and [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] who are meant to be self proclaimed western doctors of philosophy, they are very very quick to take the morale high ground on so many fronts. But are also equally quick to demonise people with mental health issues, they put it all down to attention seeking purely because this person was one of the greatest artists of all time; are celebs not human? both of you clearly do not have the A-Z on her condition yet are quick to make some very shocking judgements. James is from Yorkshire so he can be forgiven for his poor schooling but you Donal Cozzie, to berate a national treasure is very shameful in my opinion; you're like the anti irish man or an Irish Mamoon, I've seen you talk rubbish about Conor as well, an icon and a combat legend.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

It's funny how people like [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] and [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] who are meant to be self proclaimed western doctors of philosophy, they are very very quick to take the morale high ground on so many fronts. But are also equally quick to demonise people with mental health issues, they put it all down to attention seeking purely because this person was one of the greatest artists of all time; are celebs not human? both of you clearly do not have the A-Z on her condition yet are quick to make some very shocking judgements. James is from Yorkshire so he can be forgiven for his poor schooling but you Donal Cozzie, to berate a national treasure is very shameful in my opinion; you're like the anti irish man or an Irish Mamoon, I've seen you talk rubbish about Conor as well, an icon and a combat legend.

lol Conor is a totally different story.

Look, I gave her credit in my first post, her stance against the Catholic Church was very public and very brave and ultimately was justified, fair play on that regard.

But she has a catalogue of mental health issues. You may not hear about it as youre abroad but here shes in the news every six months for a whole host of crazy stuff. She needs help and I hope she gets it but when you her name parroted over and over again in totally different wacky scenarios its difficult to take it seriously after a point.

And when the hell have I ever proclaimed myself a doctor of anything. I know as much about philosophy as I do about GDP per capita growth in Swaziland

 

[saadibaba]

This is the same lady who shaved her head, tore up the photo of the Pope on SNL and has a known history of bipolar disorder. Great! Another gem of a person converting to Islam.

 

[Yossarian]

Why is it news when some white person converts though, just seems some people have a party every time it happens lol.

When a White Westerner converts it does seem to be big news in the Muslim community, and I think this makes sense - because the Western and Muslim cultures are quite different - so it woujd typically take a very powerful, beautiful, simple and convincing religious message to transcend those man-made boundaries.

I'm betting if a Muslim with a similar level of fame, ie not a major star but still reasonable well known, converted to Christianity, there would be far more hullabaloo this this - albeit from extremists from both ends. Muslim extremists would want to 'take them out' whilst Christian right-wingers, such as Evangelists, would want to get them on every tv talk show going in order to get them to justify their conversion by getting them to describe their 'lives in hell' whilst they were still a Muslim.

Every convert (and their 'supporters') will take every opportunity to publicise their new life of bliss as justification for their faith change.

 

[James]

It's funny how people like [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION] and [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] who are meant to be self proclaimed western doctors of philosophy, they are very very quick to take the morale high ground on so many fronts. But are also equally quick to demonise people with mental health issues, they put it all down to attention seeking purely because this person was one of the greatest artists of all time; are celebs not human? both of you clearly do not have the A-Z on her condition yet are quick to make some very shocking judgements. James is from Yorkshire so he can be forgiven for his poor schooling but you Donal Cozzie, to berate a national treasure is very shameful in my opinion; you're like the anti irish man or an Irish Mamoon, I've seen you talk rubbish about Conor as well, an icon and a combat legend.

Psychosis runs in my direct family line (luckily I have escaped it so far), so I have more than enough experience with it by now to know when someone is genuinely extremely ill, and when someone is exaggerating the symptoms for attention. Even doctors can’t agree if she is ill or not.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

Well, at least she is not a ginger (hair).

 

[Robert]

She always struck me as unhappy.

I hope she finds inner peace.

 

[PakLFC]

The Pope must have a major 'ump seeing Sinead ripping his picture to threads!!))) I see her converting to Buddhism soon

 

[DeadBall]

This is the same lady who shaved her head, tore up the photo of the Pope on SNL and has a known history of bipolar disorder. Great! Another gem of a person converting to Islam.

Certainly fits the portfolio.



I will be here all week.

 

[shaz619]

Psychosis runs in my direct family line (luckily I have escaped it so far), so I have more than enough experience with it by now to know when someone is genuinely extremely ill, and when someone is exaggerating the symptoms for attention. Even doctors can’t agree if she is ill or not.

With all due respect, I've have also experienced Psychosis very closely to but that doesn't make me an expert to comment on the state of an individual purely based on various situations or their actions. The mind is very complex and when there are qualified doctors who have not been able to disect it at times it would be very silly for someone like myself to come to various conclusions when it comes to my assessment of Sinead, people should be a lot more careful when discussing this subject because it is no joke; as far as the religion part is concerned that doesn't concern me, each to their own and whatever makes them happy.

 

[shaz619]

lol Conor is a totally different story.

Look, I gave her credit in my first post, her stance against the Catholic Church was very public and very brave and ultimately was justified, fair play on that regard.

But she has a catalogue of mental health issues. You may not hear about it as youre abroad but here shes in the news every six months for a whole host of crazy stuff. She needs help and I hope she gets it but when you her name parroted over and over again in totally different wacky scenarios its difficult to take it seriously after a point.

And when the hell have I ever proclaimed myself a doctor of anything. I know as much about philosophy as I do about GDP per capita growth in Swaziland

You only ever see one side of the coin, the half which is purely to drive a brand. But a part of the other side revealed itself recently when he showed his support for a national hero in Katie Taylor, no pride or ego but a humble appreciation. Many who have met him when those lights go off have nothing but good things to say.

Am fully aware of her issues otherwise I wouldn't be commenting on them so passionately, I agree with you that she requires help; but am not happy with people who either intentionally or unintentionally demonise someone due to their issues, but we as a society have a bad habit of doing this; for this reason solutions are not as common as our verdicts.

'GDP per capita' blah blah, we have an intellectual snob over here guys

 

[shaz619]

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You only ever see one side of the coin, the half which is purely to drive a brand. But a part of the other side revealed itself recently when he showed his support for a national hero in Katie Taylor, no pride or ego but a humble appreciation. Many who have met him when those lights go off have nothing but good things to say.

Am fully aware of her issues otherwise I wouldn't be commenting on them so passionately, I agree with you that she requires help; but am not happy with people who either intentionally or unintentionally demonise someone due to their issues, but we as a society have a bad habit of doing this; for this reason solutions are not as common as our verdicts.

'GDP per capita' blah blah, we have an intellectual snob over here guys

I agree with you about Conor for what it's worth, I don't think he's a bad guy at all. A lot of his antics were down to hyping up the fight, he's generally been fantastic for the UFC, and I thought he was relatively humble after his defeat. I can't help liking the Irish wag, I will look forward to his comeback, although I don't think he'll be the lightweight champ again in a hurry, unless Khabib is banned for good, or Ferguson moves up a weight.

 

[Varun]

This is the same lady who shaved her head, tore up the photo of the Pope on SNL and has a known history of bipolar disorder. Great! Another gem of a person converting to Islam.

Yeah. Michael Jackson was another - it's always the weirdos who tend to do this after their careers are off their highs. Coincidence? Maybe not.

 

[shaz619]

I agree with you about Conor for what it's worth, I don't think he's a bad guy at all. A lot of his antics were down to hyping up the fight, he's generally been fantastic for the UFC, and I thought he was relatively humble after his defeat. I can't help liking the Irish wag, I will look forward to his comeback, although I don't think he'll be the lightweight champ again in a hurry, unless Khabib is banned for good, or Ferguson moves up a weight.

There could be options for him outside Khabib and Ferguson as well, there had been talk of that fight with GSP to (I doubt but still). Yeah, will be tough for him to reclaim the world title but wont rule it out but am not sure of his desire, I get the feeling were it not for the contractual obligations he would have walked away. Then again wouldn't they become void if he retired? but having said that, still believe he is done after 4 more fights. Yeah, bought the promotion a great deal of fans in the post Silva era and the company grew during this period big time but they need to develop some new draws.

 

[Robert]

The Pope must have a major 'ump seeing Sinead ripping his picture to threads!!))) I see her converting to Buddhism soon

In seven hours and fifteen days perhaps?

 

[PakLFC]

In seven hours and fifteen days perhaps?

No a bit after probably near Christmas time she'll become Catholic again. Just in time to do some Christmas shopping as well!! By then her likely publicity will be over too

 

[El Generico]

Yeah. Michael Jackson was another - it's always the weirdos who tend to do this after their careers are off their highs. Coincidence? Maybe not.

Thousands of people convert to Islam each year, obviously there would be a few werid ones in there too.

 

[El Generico]

[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] Also when did Michael Jackson convert to Islam?

 

[Varun]

[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION] Also when did Michael Jackson convert to Islam?

2008. There is even a PP thread about it:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?64686-Michael-Jackson-converts-to-Islam

 

[James]

In seven hours and fifteen days perhaps?

) ) Ha!

 

[James]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/06/they...o-spend-time-with-white-people-again-8109826/

“Sinead O’Connor never wants to spend time with white people again. Not for one moment, they are disgusting.” ........despite being white herself and many Muslims also being white!

What a strange, bigoted and offensive woman. A vile, racist person.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/06/they...o-spend-time-with-white-people-again-8109826/

“Sinead O’Connor never wants to spend time with white people again. Not for one moment, they are disgusting.” ........despite being white herself and many Muslims also being white!

What a strange, bigoted and offensive woman. A vile, racist person.

My guess is that she has mental health issues. I wouldn't take this conversion or her views seriously.

 

[Madplayer]

I cant judge her relationship with God or her understanding of faith but bah God, her statements and past record make it hard to see her as a mentally sound person. Wait for her to renounce Islam and muslims of the world to lose their minds. May God forgive me.

 

[Madplayer]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/06/they...o-spend-time-with-white-people-again-8109826/

“Sinead O’Connor never wants to spend time with white people again. Not for one moment, they are disgusting.” ........despite being white herself and many Muslims also being white!

What a strange, bigoted and offensive woman. A vile, racist person.

Its quite ironic of her to convert to Islam and say racist things given that Islam openly attacked the norm that racism was at that time with all its might.

 

[James]

Its quite ironic of her to convert to Islam and say racist things given that Islam openly attacked the norm that racism was at that time with all its might.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Islam is a distinctly anti-racist religion. The whole idea is that any human being can be born as, or become, a Muslim.

This makes her an even larger embarrassment.

 

[s28]

As this Grenfell scandal shows there is a lot some people need to learn about their past and how structural racism works. Many who regard themselves as cultured civilised middle class liberals are actually worse racists than the supposed working class who at least are honest and upfront about their prejudices and don't disguise them behind sophistry and weasel words.

Always reminds me of Martin Luther Kings words about 'white moderates' being a bigger obstacle to the Black people than the KKK

 

[Donal Cozzie]

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/06/they...o-spend-time-with-white-people-again-8109826/

“Sinead O’Connor never wants to spend time with white people again. Not for one moment, they are disgusting.” ........despite being white herself and many Muslims also being white!

What a strange, bigoted and offensive woman. A vile, racist person.

Pretty much what we said. Will be a period of silence now soon enough then 6 months later a new controversy

 

[blackanhyellow]

Never heard of her.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Never heard of her.

She was quite a volatile singer, very big back in the day. You get these type of personalities who are perhaps more drawn to the militant form of Islam. I am thinking of former punk singer Sally Jones who joined ISIS and went to Syria.

 

[Sachin136]

https://www.irishpost.com/entertain...BYAffEFiezSZt2Ysb_qXp-yQKr-ky3W99oreVgmAPziUc

Im not posting this because I get satisfaction when someone converts, feel happy for them but nothing more.

I found it interesting as a great vocalist her singing of the call to prayer. It was really bad but of course shoudn't be criticised, just found it very bad because of who she is.

What should be criticized are her ridiculous comments on white people and non-Muslims in general.

https://twitter.com/MagdaDavitt77/status/1059747609655627776

 

[Saj]

Her song Nothing Compares To You was absolutely brilliant.

 

[blackanhyellow]

She was quite a volatile singer, very big back in the day. You get these type of personalities who are perhaps more drawn to the militant form of Islam. I am thinking of former punk singer Sally Jones who joined ISIS and went to Syria.

Seems like a Lindsay Lohan or Azalea Banks type character, just seeks attention with one outrageous act / statement after another.

 

[Gilly]

Would someone who hates white people be a real muslim?.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Would someone who hates white people be a real muslim?.

I thought you worked with many Muslims? Do they hate you or are you Aboriginal?

 

[El Generico]

If a person is Muslim and acts racist then they either don't understand Islam well enough or are willfully ignoring Islamic teachings.

 

[Devilsadvokat]

If a person is Muslim and acts racist then they either don't understand Islam well enough or are willfully ignoring Islamic teachings.

Here you will fall foul of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

 

[El Generico]

Here you will fall foul of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

There are clear verses in the Quran that forbid racism so if a Muslim does indulge in racism then they are ignoring those teachings. I am not saying that Muslims can't be racist, I am just saying that if they are than they are going against the Quran.


I don't get how that is a fallacy.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Seems like a Lindsay Lohan or Azalea Banks type character, just seeks attention with one outrageous act / statement after another.

Or could be outrageous characters looking for some discipline and guidance, Allah knows best.

 

[barah_admi]

So much negativity, if this is true, let her do her thing.

 

[MenInG]

Singer Sinead O'Connor has cancelled her gigs for 2021 and announced she is entering a one-year treatment programme for trauma and addiction