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South Africa [291/7] beat Australia [217] by 74 runs in the 1st ODI, lead series 1-0

Well the team going down the Zimbabwe route will at least compete with Australia. :broad

So what? Even Zimbabwe used to compete with Australia in home conditions in the early 2000s. They are in WI phase atm who might defeat teams in one-off game at home but will lose majority of them.
 
So what? Even Zimbabwe used to compete with Australia in home conditions in the early 2000s. They are in WI phase atm who might defeat teams in one-off game at home but will lose majority of them.

They won't go down the Zimbabwe route. Just bookmark this post.
 
They won't go down the Zimbabwe route. Just bookmark this post.

Do you have anything else to say? You keep on saying the same thing. They are extremely ordinary side atm and that won't change until either they get rid of the quota system or blacks start taking interest in cricket.
 
It's hilarious to see Pakistan fans talk about South Africa going down the Zimbabwe route. We lost 5-0 in the UAE to Australia who didn't have Smith , Warner , Starc, and Hazelwood. Lost to Sri Lanka D 3-0 in our strongest format, get beaten black and blue every time we play in Australia and South Africa talk about a team going down the Zimbabwe route.

I wonder what route Pakistan are going down if South Africa are going down the Zimbabwe route lol.
 
Do you have anything else to say? You keep on saying the same thing. They are extremely ordinary side atm and that won't change until either they get rid of the quota system or blacks start taking interest in cricket.

All you talk about is how every player is crap or ovverated. Why do you even watch cricket if you think every player is crap?

They wouldn't beating Australia, drawing with India in T20s , and competing against England in LO if they were going down the Zimbabwe route.
 
It's hilarious to see Pakistan fans talk about South Africa going down the Zimbabwe route. We lost 5-0 in the UAE to Australia who didn't have Smith , Warner , Starc, and Hazelwood. Lost to Sri Lanka D 3-0 in our strongest format, get beaten black and blue every time we play in Australia and South Africa talk about a team going down the Zimbabwe route.

I wonder what route Pakistan are going down if South Africa are going down the Zimbabwe route lol.

Pakistan is on Pakistan route. Pakistan were never good enough to beat Australia in LOIs anywhere. Losing SL was a shocker but that's how bad Pakistan team was. SA were never that bad that they would be losing to SL in TESTS, Getting mauled by India and England.
 
Pakistan is on Pakistan route. Pakistan were never good enough to beat Australia in LOIs anywhere. Losing SL was a shocker but that's how bad Pakistan team was. SA were never that bad that they would be losing to SL in TESTS, Getting mauled by India and England.

England haven't lost in South Africa since 99 so that shouldn't be a surprise. Furthermore losing to India in India isnt a shock as India will beat most teams in India.

They have competed in the recent LO without key players as well.

Your just listening to what some journalist said rather than using your eyes.

They will be average in tests for a while. But in LO they will be a top team.

Pakistan is going down the Pakistan route LOL. What route is that ? :)))
 
Carey can take the game away from you in the blind of any eye. SA need to dismiss him asap.
 
All you talk about is how every player is crap or ovverated. Why do you even watch cricket if you think every player is crap?

They wouldn't beating Australia, drawing with India in T20s , and competing against England in LO if they were going down the Zimbabwe route.

No one is saying that they are full Zimbabwe atm but they are gradually turning in to Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe used to beat those teams in late 90s and early 2000s as well of course, not Australia because they were the best team at the time. SA used to comfortably defeat Pakistan, SL when they were world-beaters which they cant do now.
 
England haven't lost in South Africa since 99 so that shouldn't be a surprise. Furthermore losing to India in India isnt a shock as India will beat most teams in India.

They have competed in the recent LO without key players as well.

Your just listening to what some journalist said rather than using your eyes.

They will be average in tests for a while. But in LO they will be a top team.

Pakistan is going down the Pakistan route LOL. What route is that ? :)))

If they were a top LO team they should have made the semis of WC 2019 but nah they lost comfortably to Bangladesh in that. If they are a top LO team they should make the semis of WT20 2020 and if they don't you leave PP forever, alright?
 
If they were a top LO team they should have made the semis of WC 2019 but nah they lost comfortably to Bangladesh in that. If they are a top LO team they should make the semis of WT20 2020 and if they don't you leave PP forever, alright?

The problem at the WC was they selected to many players who were past it. What they should have done is what they are doing now. Picking a younger team and they would have done better.

I am not going to leave PP. I don't need to make a bet with you to prove anything. I am confident they won't go down the Zimbabwe route with what I have seen so far.
 
Enough of the nonsense. Announce De Kock as permanent T20 captain, get him proper media training so he can deal better with the media. De Kock will be an excellent captain.
 
Australia without doubt are a stronger team than South Africa. But South Africa need this series win more just to boost their confidence and the nation's confidence.
 
I still believe that Australia should win this ODI series. They are the better team.

7 down.

SA are almost home.
 
Should have brought Shamsi on when Short arrived. But oh well an easy win for SA.
 
If Babar or someone else would have played like Smith Pak fans would have bashed him like no tmw while Indian fans would have up and say how is Rahul better than Smith because of his power game.
 
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If Babar or someone else would have played like Smith Pak fans would have bashed him like no tmw while Indian fans would have up and say how is Rahul better than Smith because of his power game.

Smith played an impactless innings.You either stay till end and see it through or score quick to make it easier for others.He did neither
 
KLAASEN AND NGIDI SET STANDARD AS PROTEAS REGAIN COMPETITIVE EDGE

Saturday, 29 February 2020

Heinrich Klaasen and Lungi Ngidi set the standard in their respective disciplines with bat and ball as the Standard Bank Proteas regained their competitive edge to beat Australia by 74 runs in the opening Momentum One-Day International at Eurolux Boland Park on Saturday evening.

Momentum Man of the Match Klaasen scored his maiden ODI century (123 not out off 114 balls, 7 fours and 3 sixes), coming to the crease when the Proteas, having won the toss, had suffered one of their all too familiar top order collapses to be 48/3 and then 50/3 at the end of the opening power play. He stayed to the end to set up a very good total of 291/7 at a venue where the team batting second often finds big totals difficult to chase.

The recovery was started by a 78-run fourth wicket partnership with Kyle Verreynne – one of two debutants in the match along with Janneman Malan – and then consolidated by Klaasen and David Miller (64 off 70 balls, 4 fours and a six) with a record fifth wicket partnership against Australia of 149 as the Proteas scored 159/1 in the second power play and 82/3 in the final one.

Then it was Ngidi’s turn to nip out the two batsmen who Australia relied on the most to lay the foundation for a big chase – Aaron Finch and David Warner – and later went on to remove Mitchell Marsh with an absolute beauty that hit the top of off-stump.

He was not required to bowl his final two overs such was the margin of victory for the outstanding figures of 3/30.

Tabraiz Shamsi also played a key role which required him to bowl his final three overs into the final power play when he picked up both of his wickets. His game has grown with leaps and bounds since he was given the confidence that comes from consistent selection and he is one player who has nailed down his place on the road ahead to both the T20 World Cup this year and the 50 over version in 2023.

It was an outstanding all-round performance and whatever words were spoken in the changing room when the squad assembled have had the desired effect. The basics were all done well with the Proteas having two substantial partnerships to set up their total and batting the full 50 overs without relying on a major contribution from their captain.

The five-man attack also fired as a unit while the fielding was the best it has been all season with inspirational saves being made in the circle by a variety of individuals and Verreynne taking three outstanding catches.

Best of all was the fact that with David Miller being the senior player both in terms of age and experience the Proteas have a group of players who should all be around for the next 50 overs World Cup.

Steve Smith set the Australians up for a competitive chase with his innings of 76 (4 balls, 3 fours) but they were setback fatally when they lost 5 wickets in the second power play, leaving far too much to be done by the lower order.
 
aus desperately need a handscomb at no .5 . he will do much better than a maxwell or mitch marsh.

maxwell is good enough to be a 5th bowling option he can be no.7 and carey or wade at no. 6
 
It's hilarious to see Pakistan fans talk about South Africa going down the Zimbabwe route. We lost 5-0 in the UAE to Australia who didn't have Smith , Warner , Starc, and Hazelwood. Lost to Sri Lanka D 3-0 in our strongest format, get beaten black and blue every time we play in Australia and South Africa talk about a team going down the Zimbabwe route.

I wonder what route Pakistan are going down if South Africa are going down the Zimbabwe route lol.

Don't worry about Pakistan. I am not saying we would have won against but we were missing a lot of our players against Australia which you blue tinted glasses won't allow you to mention while clearly knowing.
 
Don't worry about Pakistan. I am not saying we would have won against but we were missing a lot of our players against Australia which you blue tinted glasses won't allow you to mention while clearly knowing.

Australia were missing
Smith
Warner
Hazelwood
Starc

We were missing

Babar
Fakhar
Sarfraz
Hafeez

Other than Babar we weren't missing anyone who is world class.

Australia were missing 4 of the best players in the world and beat us with ease.

I support Pakistan btw. Just because I am telling you things you don't want to hear don't assume I am an Indian fan.
 
what a victory for my saffers boys. Vamos. well done.
Boks for life after india. south africa I believe officially lead the h2h vs australia in odi. The only team to hold this record.

south africa still has potential in odi and t20. tests they aren't ready yet.
 
Australia were missing
Smith
Warner
Hazelwood
Starc

We were missing

Babar
Fakhar
Sarfraz
Hafeez

Other than Babar we weren't missing anyone who is world class.

Australia were missing 4 of the best players in the world and beat us with ease.

I support Pakistan btw. Just because I am telling you things you don't want to hear don't assume I am an Indian fan.

Shaheen
Shadab
Amir

I don't think these guys played too.


You may support Pakistan but from your post you won't be mistaken as an Indian supporter. Evident from the post which i quoted where you completely ignored Pakistan missing more half of their team.
 
Shaheen
Shadab
Amir

I don't think these guys played too.


You may support Pakistan but from your post you won't be mistaken as an Indian supporter. Evident from the post which I quoted where you completely ignored Pakistan missing more half of their team.


So Babar and Shaheen are the only actual misses. Smith and Warner are elite batters. Starc is probably the best ODI bowler in the world. And Hazelwood is a brilliant bowler.

They beat us comfortably at the WC anyway so they weren't that big misses.

Imagine what would have happened if Australia best team was playing.

What I'm I saying that is pro Indian?

A true supporter will admit his team weaknesses rather than pretend everything is okay.

You have no right to tell me how to support my team .

If you can't see how average we are and how far we are off India, Australia, and England you are not a very intelligent cricket fan.
 
So Babar and Shaheen are the only actual misses. Smith and Warner are elite batters. Starc is probably the best ODI bowler in the world. And Hazelwood is a brilliant bowler.

They beat us comfortably at the WC anyway so they weren't that big misses.

Imagine what would have happened if Australia best team was playing.

What I'm I saying that is pro Indian?

A true supporter will admit his team weaknesses rather than pretend everything is okay.

You have no right to tell me how to support my team .

If you can't see how average we are and how far we are off India, Australia, and England you are not a very intelligent cricket fan.

When did I say we are world beaters? When did I say that even with those players we would have won? Where did I say we are close to then teams? Where did I say 23 don't have weaknesses or we are perfect?

Stop making stuff up.
 
Is Bavuma like good now?

I think he's currently playing above his actual skill level (which is pretty average) to prove something/someone wrong. For example, Gibbs said this on Twitter regarding Bavuma: "This has nothing to do with form. You score one 100 in five years, you question technique and temperament. Some batsmen just can’t cut it at the top level. Just another case of it".

He's a damn good fielder and average with the bat.
 
He has scored runs against good bowling attacks in ODIs and T20Is so he does deserve some credit. But I agree, I'm not convinced about him as a gun batsman, especially in tests which South Africa desperately want him to be.
 
Looks Australia is also just top-heavy like India. Playing both Smith and Labushagne in the same eleven for LOIs is a mistake.
 
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