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South Africa (489 & 260/5d) defeat India (201 & 140) by 408 runs in the 2nd Test to complete a 2-0 whitewash

Which team will win the 2nd Test?

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Gotta love the Saffers respect for legends. One guy refused to break the test 400 record out of respect for Lara. And Stubbs got out on 94 to respect :sachin as chief of scoring useless tons.
 
So SA have declared.
Lets see if India go for a win to level the series or they don't even attempt it. Pant being the captain, I will not be surprised they try the Bazball style.
 
My money is on India to chase these runs down, expecting big things from Sai, Reddy, Kishore Kumar, Washington DC.
 
I hope now people understand the reason behind our long home test dominance - value of Pujara (the 2nd wall in the initial part of that dominance), Ashwin & Jadeja (the spin duo & the batting depth-sometimes they outbatted even the main batters in the 2nd part of dominance), Kohli's captaincy & attitude in tests, more than anything (the most ignored) the part Shami, Ishant, Umesh Yadav played as pace bowlers in home tests (a highly specialised skill - ask Jansen the recent accomplisher...) and don't blatantly attribute our home dominance to doctored pitches, home bullies, blah blah... All those arrogant fools have understood this now!

Now you understand what you can do (when you come prepared with a proper team) on these pitches (even if you are from SENA). I am glad that the better part of SENA (the South African & NZ Teams) have achieved this feat who are sane teams & deserving teams, rather than the crybabies & arrogant Australian & England Teams (let's hope India gets back to normal when these two teams tour us!)

Pakistan should be cursing their fate for not having played against this Indian Team, they would have got all their confidence back, and went back to their Miandad or Akther days! Even Srilankan teams of past (Jayasuriya/Desilva, Murali/Vaas/Jayawardena/Sangakkara) can fancy against this Indian Team...
 
Hopefully India will lose this badly for choosing this crap team.. especially I can't digest that Sai preferred over proven domestic performers..
 
Jansen letting young cricket fans (particularly Indians) know how difficult it was to face tall West Indian genuine fast bowlers like Garner, Croft, Clark, Ambrose, Bishop, Walsh, etc in their peak

This is something Spreadsheets of stats never take into account

Shastri scored runs against proper tall fast bowlers. Gambhir struggled against Mohd Irfan who didn't even bowl superfast on a regular basis

On top of that many years of Shastri's cricket did not have any limitation on bouncers and even high full tosses (beamers)...

If you use only spreadsheets to prove that a contemporary batsman is better than the players of 70s, 80s and 90s...you are running a fool's errand
 
South Africa have wasted a lot of time.

India have not scored a total of 500 runs in 3 innings so far.
How much do they expect them to chase on last day pitch?
Stupid cricket
 
KL Rahul - Washington Sundar - Nitish Reddy - such an awesome batting line-up.
 
Kuldeep Yadav, the new wall of India. Should bat at no.4 permanently the way this team is collapsing.
 
Smbhayi said:
Hopefully India will lose this badly for choosing this crap team.. especially I can't digest that Sai preferred over proven domestic performers..
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It's truly perplexing that a guy like Sarfraz Khan with 63 FC Avg! Has gotten just 6 matches in patches - still having done alright.

Yet. India is persisting with these other guys. Including Washington at no. 3 and 4.
 
IAJ said:
Shabash, ab is level pay ana padh gaya hai apne aap ko tasalliyan denay kay liye.
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RexRex said:
If India score about 150 in each session tomorrow, they can get close to the target. I wanna see them go for it than go all defense.
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They ain't winning this. But the right approach to drawing a Test match. Is batting normally. Only using defense in periods of game where it becomes near impossible to play strokes.
 
RexRex said:
If India score about 150 in each session tomorrow, they can get close to the target. I wanna see them go for it than go all defense.
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If India batted first they would have won easily.

If Kuldeeb Yadav scored a double ton in Indias first India would have crushed SA.

If Bumrah had taken a double hattrick in first innings India would have cruised.

Only if......
 
IAJ said:
If India batted first they would have won easily.

If Kuldeeb Yadav scored a double ton in Indias first India would have crushed SA.

If Bumrah had taken a double hattrick in first innings India would have cruised.

Only if......
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This is the age of Bazball, anything can happen.
 
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I like how quiet this thread is. These jokers disappear once their team is in trouble.

Some of the idiots thought of themselves as experts on this game, but don't have the courage to criticize this garbage Test team that is being dominated by SENA countries at home.
 
Usman Chadda said:
I like how quiet this thread is. These jokers disappear once their team is in trouble.

Some of the idiots thought of themselves as experts on this game, but don't have the courage to criticize this garbage Test team that is being dominated by SENA countries at home.
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Well alot of posters here exist for the sole purpose of making fun of Pakistan.

Now that karma has dealt them a knockout blow they have all disappeared.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Well alot of posters here exist for the sole purpose of making fun of Pakistan.

Now that karma has dealt them a knockout blow they have all disappeared.
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The arrogance has been shoved so far down someplace that no noise is possible I guess, otherwise the usual clowns would still be running their mouth here right now.

It's a matter of great shame that Pakistan actually dominated this South African team and the one game we lost was because of a freak Rabada knock and customary collapse. One Gambhir has made them tear their hair out, while we Pakistan fans endure such characters at every level in our cricket board/management.
 
Usman Chadda said:
The arrogance has been shoved so far down someplace that no noise is possible I guess, otherwise the usual clowns would still be running their mouth here right now.

It's a matter of great shame that Pakistan actually dominated this South African team and the one game we lost was because of a freak Rabada knock and customary collapse. One Gambhir has made them tear their hair out, while we Pakistan fans endure such characters at every level in our cricket board/management.
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One Indian poster here wrote India would dominate Test cricket for the next 50 years. I wonder where he is now. :qdkcheeky

I guess a bit of success got to their heads. Humility and decency were missing from them.
 
RexRex said:
This is the age of Bazball, anything can happen.
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In the 21st century no team has scored a higher fourth innings total than 451, let alone chase it.

Infact in the history of test cricket only once has a team scored a higher fourth innings total than that, all the way back in 1939 when England scored 654-5 against South Africa chasing 696.
 
RamLakhan said:
I hope now people understand the reason behind our long home test dominance - value of Pujara (the 2nd wall in the initial part of that dominance), Ashwin & Jadeja (the spin duo & the batting depth-sometimes they outbatted even the main batters in the 2nd part of dominance), Kohli's captaincy & attitude in tests, more than anything (the most ignored) the part Shami, Ishant, Umesh Yadav played as pace bowlers in home tests (a highly specialised skill - ask Jansen the recent accomplisher...) and don't blatantly attribute our home dominance to doctored pitches, home bullies, blah blah... All those arrogant fools have understood this now!

Now you understand what you can do (when you come prepared with a proper team) on these pitches (even if you are from SENA). I am glad that the better part of SENA (the South African & NZ Teams) have achieved this feat who are sane teams & deserving teams, rather than the crybabies & arrogant Australian & England Teams (let's hope India gets back to normal when these two teams tour us!)

Pakistan should be cursing their fate for not having played against this Indian Team, they would have got all their confidence back, and went back to their Miandad or Akther days! Even Srilankan teams of past (Jayasuriya/Desilva, Murali/Vaas/Jayawardena/Sangakkara) can fancy against this Indian Team...
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Well summed up. India played some excellent cricket during this period and it really was a case of all those aspects clicking. You can't become a great team and dominate in that fashion just by doctoring pitches or having 1-2 good players. It has to be a collective effort. Australia in 2017 BGT played much better cricket than New Zealand did in 2024 or South Africa did in this series, and they still couldn't win that series despite hammering India in the first test. And that's because India had different players stepping up at different points. This Indian team does not look like a cohesive unit. Infact some of the players don't even look up to the standard for test cricket.
 
Whether India lose or miraculously draw it, it is one of the odd stupid decisions SA smart cricket management has ever made.

Even if they just wanted Indians to chase the leather as a punishment, it was silly. There is nothing that trumps a victory. Luckily, they got two wickets, and thoroughly deserved for good bowling but undeserving for an awful strategy.

India can also miraculously draw it; This is the difference between AU, the truest world champions of cricket vs others. Australians would NOT let someone off the hook.
 
CricVet said:
Whether India lose or miraculously draw it, it is one of the odd stupid decisions SA smart cricket management has ever made.

Even if they just wanted Indians to chase the leather as a punishment, it was silly. There is nothing that trumps a victory. Luckily, they got two wickets, and thoroughly deserved for good bowling but undeserving for an awful strategy.

India can also miraculously draw it; This is the difference between AU, the truest world champions of cricket vs others. Australians would NOT let someone off the hook.
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It is very unlikely that they would be able to avoid defeat here with their two best batters already out. They needed a huge opening partnership in order to have any chance of drawing this match, a win for India was never on the cards.
 
hassan918 said:
It is very unlikely that they would be able to avoid defeat here with their two best batters already out. They needed a huge opening partnership in order to have any chance of drawing this match, a win for India was never on the cards.
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I know that, which is why I used the word miraculously. But why even provide a sniff of survival? That was an awful decision which might still nit cost them, but it could!
 
CricVet said:
I know that, which is why I used the word miraculously. But why even provide a sniff of survival? That was an awful decision which might still nit cost them, but it could!
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It was a good decision. As you see the possibility of India miraculously drawing it, timba is much more aware of the possibility of India taking 100-150 lead miraculously and that would have given India a chance to draw the series. Why should temba not take a sure shot series victory?
 
hur rizvi said:
It was a good decision. As you see the possibility of India miraculously drawing it, timba is much more aware of the possibility of India taking 100-150 lead miraculously and that would have given India a chance to draw the series. Why should temba not take a sure shot series victory?
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No miracle is gonna happen tomorrow. It would be an easy win for South Africa.
 
hur rizvi said:
It was a good decision. As you see the possibility of India miraculously drawing it, timba is much more aware of the possibility of India taking 100-150 lead miraculously and that would have given India a chance to draw the series. Why should temba not take a sure shot series victory?
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I am lost, what do you mean by lead?

This game from now onwards is gonna have 80 overs the most, light permitting!

What team on this deteriorating pitch would score even 400 to 480 averaging 5 or more per over? I am totally lost brother.

500 would mean a guaranteed win or a miraculous draw. 550+ lead means miraculous win or a miraculous draw. Anything more than 500 is an overkill and waste of an opportunity.
 
hur rizvi said:
It was a good decision. As you see the possibility of India miraculously drawing it, timba is much more aware of the possibility of India taking 100-150 lead miraculously and that would have given India a chance to draw the series. Why should temba not take a sure shot series victory?
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I guess South Africa want to win instead of a draw. Win can give them more WTC points. A South African win also mean India get no WTC point.

India need around 500 on Day 5. I don't think they can score that. Pitch is slow. South African bowlers are good.

I think it was a good decision from Bavuma. South Africa already picked up 2 wickets.
 
hur rizvi said:
It was a good decision. As you see the possibility of India miraculously drawing it, timba is much more aware of the possibility of India taking 100-150 lead[/b] miraculously and that would have given India a chance to draw the series. Why should temba not take a sure shot series victory?
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The Bald Eagle said:
Why not much activity in this thread, seems like India hasn't done well yet or may be some people's goat is yet to take a fifer while hunting on tail enders
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Doesn’t help when posters are insecure about Bumrah even when India is losing. All these claims about chucking and not performing are getting tiring.
 
GG has officially destroyed the test outfit. This is worse than the Chappell era. But I expect things to get much better once he’s out and we start selecting actual proper batsmen in the side. This nightmare will get over.
 
CricVet said:
I am lost, what do you mean by lead?

This game from now onwards is gonna have 80 overs the most, light permitting!

What team on this deteriorating pitch would score even 400 to 480 averaging 5 or more per over? I am totally lost brother.

500 would mean a guaranteed win or a miraculous draw. 550+ lead means miraculous win or a miraculous draw. Anything more than 500 is an overkill and waste of an opportunity.
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I think you were critical of tembas decision to not enforce follow on..,

Indians were only interested in follow on because that was there only chance of a miraculous comeback

India miraculously could have scored 350 batting 3rd…

Temba was spot on in not choosing to bat 4th here where even 100 to defend might have given India an outside chance
 
India should have used Reddy more in 3rd inning since the idea behind picking him was to develop his game for the overseas tours. Could have given him 15 overs across multiple spells rather than getting overs done quickly by Washi or Jadeja.
 
CricVet said:
That explains! Well...well...that is their way of dishing out some humiliation. Indians, stop shaking hands with these baaastas!
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BREAKING NEWS: India’s players will not be shaking hands with South Africa head coach Shukri Conrad after the second Test. Instead, they have requested to shake hands with the female physio. :sarf2
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
BREAKING NEWS: India’s players will not be shaking hands with South Africa head coach Shukri Conrad after the second Test. Instead, they have requested to shake hands with the female physio. :sarf2
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For real? Hahahahha... this is a next level tantrum if true...and I was just trolling!
 
Ab Fan said:
India should have used Reddy more in 3rd inning since the idea behind picking him was to develop his game for the overseas tours. Could have given him 15 overs across multiple spells rather than getting overs done quickly by Washi or Jadeja.
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Reddy's bowling isn't good enough as an all rounder and will not be unless something dramatic happens.
Indian set up will have to decide if he is good enough to bat in the top 6. And that too, so far the answer is clear.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Doesn’t help when posters are insecure about Bumrah even when India is losing. All these claims about chucking and not performing are getting tiring.
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Indians also have some insecurity around Bumrah. It doesn't help that he picks and chose matches and when he plays he is wrapped in cotton wool.

I didn't watch the match today so can't comment on the pitch, but 6 overs from a bowler that some call the greatest ever in a must win match for his country is poor.

However If you bring it up then automatically you are called jealous.
 
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