South Africa finish Day 1 of the second Test against Pakistan in a commanding position at 316/4

COmpare Mukesh kumar average in SA then lol

He has lost it lmao...

That same pop gun attack of theirs got destroyed in Perth on a flat wicket but padded their stats on two juicy wickets. That too was an useless excercise.

Guy has a pukeworthy agenda and he's trying really hard to hide it it's actually sad.
 
He has lost it lmao...

That same pop gun attack of theirs got destroyed in Perth on a flat wicket but padded their stats on two juicy wickets. That too was an useless excercise.

Guy has a pukeworthy agenda and he's trying really hard to hide it it's actually sad.

Never seen anyone taking one series and extrapolate it. He is making this bold claim right in the middle of a Test match where the bowlign attack is listless. Besides SIraj in his first series took a fifer and helpe win the test. This is his second series. You can't even argue with guys who don't have basic ifnormation.
 
More than the speed, Pakistan lacks heavy ball bowlers. Some bowlers bowl at 135 kp but it comes hard at you. Tall into the deck bowlers. All of them just float the ball. Even otherwise Pakistan lacks this into the deck bowlers.
Muhammad Ali and Arshad Iqbal are hit the deck bowlers but the dumb coaching staff and board are obsessed with domestic numbers only rather than conditions and pitch requirements.
 
I was wondering why we don't use any spinners in the test matches, but seems our selection panel and team management is quite delusional about the abilities of the Pakistan pace attack. I don't know what they are watching, most laymen on here can point out the deficiencies. It is really quite astounding levels of ignorance.
Surely they too can see that this would be an average county attack, only suitable for April and May
 
Muhammad Ali and Arshad Iqbal are hit the deck bowlers but the dumb coaching staff and board are obsessed with domestic numbers only rather than conditions and pitch requirements.
Arshad is also overweight and Ali isn't much better. I saw Amir Khan today and he has added a stone to his weight and last week we saw Mubashir and he is also carrying extra weight. Do these guys not care? Is there free buffets? What's going on.
 
I wasn't hyping him for his average. It's not great.

I was only pointing out that his average is similar to many other players. Him scoring runs can not be a low point for opposition bowlers.
For me the captain should be the who can inspire the rest of team in tough times.he should have the ability to dig deep, if required. If captain is 35 avg against everyone on any kind of track means, team is one batsmen short especially overseas.
 
Arshad is also overweight and Ali isn't much better. I saw Amir Khan today and he has added a stone to his weight and last week we saw Mubashir and he is also carrying extra weight. Do these guys not care? Is there free buffets? What's going on.
Find out whose dishing out the free food :ROFLMAO: .

Hasnain should of been given an opportunity and I would of added Jahandad aswell.
 
Find out whose dishing out the free food :ROFLMAO: .

Hasnain should of been given an opportunity and I would of added Jahandad aswell.
Free food or poor diet is adding the KGs.
Hasnain isn't a good bowler and Jahandad isn't any better than these guys. I liked the look Mohammed Umar but I got no idea what he is doing.
 
Free food or poor diet is adding the KGs.
Hasnain isn't a good bowler and Jahandad isn't any better than these guys. I liked the look Mohammed Umar but I got no idea what he is doing.
You need pace in SENA conditions when the wicket is good.

Hasnain needs to be used the way England use wood and for that you need a captain like stokes who knows how to get the best out of them.

Jahandad is better as he can bowl 140 ks and is a good striker of the ball.

SA are playing mphaka for a reason. |Pace

Batters enjoy bowlers who lack pace as they don't feel intimidated.

Its a mental thing.
 
You need pace in SENA conditions when the wicket is good.

Hasnain needs to be used the way England use wood and for that you need a captain like stokes who knows how to get the best out of them.

Jahandad is better as he can bowl 140 ks and is a good striker of the ball.

SA are playing mphaka for a reason. |Pace

Batters enjoy bowlers who lack pace as they don't feel intimidated.

Its a mental thing.
Hasnain isn't quick( the batsman are not hurried) and barely moves the ball. He isn't very good
 
This is exactly our problem. The moment wickets don’t fall. We blame the pace because obviously “it must be the pace”.

What about line and length? Variation? Control? What about bowling plans?
What about the pitch conditions? What about the batsmanship? What about fielding?

You should thank your stars one of the 22 year “pace sensation” you al fetishize wasn’t because of their 140+ pace wasn’t playing on this pitch. It would have been 400/1 on this pitch today.
Yea of course just because you say so. 120k supporters. What have we come to?
 
Yea of course just because you say so. 120k supporters. What have we come to?
How did you reach the conclusion that it was pace and pace alone?
I would call myself more of an anti-wayward pacers who are gun barrel straight.
Give me 125 KPH bowler with skills in test cricket all day long over a wayward pacer with no skills.
 
Mir Hamza, Shehzad and Abbas on a flat track in SA? What were they thinking lol
140 kph would have run through on flat pitch? The irony is unmistakable.

1. Where are these skillful 140 KPH pacers in Pakistan or do they exist in your and @TheSultan imagination.
2. The ones we do have been going at 5+ RPO, some even 6 RPO on flat pitches, to the point that they had to be dropped mid series vs England
 
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