South Africa v India | 2nd Test | Durban | 26-30 Dec 2010

[abdul2009]

if you had batsmen with half decent technique , you wudnt have to give thse silly excuses .. match was over on the second day , you know that too .

prepare a flat pitch for next test , you might have a chance

why dont you accept the fact that without those 4 terrible decisions, SA would have won??

I agree 100% with saffer, just imagine the hue and cry if those decisions have gone against india?

Devillears and boucher wickets are just a joke...

Probably the only way india can win in SA

 

[Khabri420]

Jaheer gets another one!

 

[dinakar]

why dont you accept the fact that without those 4 terrible decisions, SA would have won??

I agree 100% with saffer, just imagine the hue and cry if those decisions have gone against india?

Devillears and boucher wickets are just a joke...

Probably the only way india can win in SA

feel for you!!! my sympathies!!

 

[Sanchez]

OMG, does BCCI have to stoop so low in order to make their useless team win, bribing the umpires and ICC and all that shyte. Anyway SA had already made up their mind to keep the series alive hence, didn't push for victory today. 2-1 victory will will be very exciting for the SA spectators.

 

[Torpedo]

 

[abdul2009]

feel for you!!! my sympathies!!

do you have an argument?

i bet not!

 

[dinakar]

^^
I'm enjoying the sight of these broken hearts

 

[wasim-fan]

These Indian cheats are at it again And this pie chucker taking wickets.

 

[ShehryarK]

why dont you accept the fact that without those 4 terrible decisions, SA would have won??

The "fact""? Its pure speculation on your part!

How can you know that for sure? You can just have an opinion on it, that's all.

 

[Random Aussie]

Have to say we have had a lot of luck going our way in this test.

Peterson getting bowled off his thigh pads, Kallis run out and now these decisions. But as long as the team goes onto win, why should I complain!

Ah the hypocrisy reeking in this thread drew me to it.....looks like India will square the series to set up an exciting decider.

But seriously Indian cheerleaders, sledging was once abhorred, now that you do it, it is part of the game.

Umpiring used to be the reason for losses, now you tell the other side the umpires don't matter.

So transparent.

 

[Animal]

OMG, does BCCI have to stoop so low in order to make their useless team win, bribing the umpires and ICC and all that shyte. Anyway SA had already made up their mind to keep the series alive hence, didn't push for victory today. 2-1 victory will will be very exciting for the SA spectators.

Are you questioning the integrity of Asad Rauf? Because to me, the umpires seem to be making errors of judgment. Nothing more.

 

[abdul2009]

Good for you, India has won.

Smile all you can, but the win is a bit tainted.

 

[Mobashir]

^^
I'm enjoying the sight of these broken hearts

There is a lot of different character on forums. Telling you about me, I don't like my team winning with bad umpire dicisions... If you feel proud about it, it's good for you.

 

[ShehryarK]

^^
I'm enjoying the sight of these broken hearts

Fair enough, your team is doing well so it is indeed time to enjoy. But it would be churlish and immature not to acknowledge that India have benefited hugely from a lot of luck and umpiring mistakes.

Of course, India might have won handily without any of that luck too - but we simply don't know.

Here's hoping that the third Test is a great contest and we don't have to waste time discussing umpiring mistakes on either side after it.

 

[holldout]

Dhoni may well not be lucky with the tosses.....Some luck is going his way here.....

 

[abdul2009]

The "fact""? Its pure speculation on your part!

How can you know that for sure? You can just have an opinion on it, that's all.

Oh yeah SA are chokers i agree on that, but sure the indians got the umpiring decisions go their way this time around and that does play a huge role in the win.

 

[purplehaze]

There is a lot of different character on forums. Telling you about me, I don't like my team winning with bad umpire dicisions... If you feel proud about it, it's good for you.

not sure about your team but if we have been at "other end" quite a many times so enjoying every bit of where we are. Oh Yea other side may whine, as you can see, no issues with that... it just adds up to fun

 

[Mobashir]

Fair enough, your team is doing well so it is indeed time to enjoy. But it would be churlish and immature not to acknowledge that India have benefited hugely from a lot of luck and umpiring mistakes.

Of course, India might have won handily without any of that luck too - but we simply don't know.

Here's hoping that the third Test is a great contest and we don't have to waste time discussing umpiring mistakes on either side after it.

Good post. We all know how much every run matters in those last innings chases. And the 40 runs india beneficted by Zaheer escaping two bad decisions yesterday made a HUGE difference.
And now to ad, umpires killed the match by giving Boucher and AB wrongly.

 

[cric_fan82]

^^
I'm enjoying the sight of these broken hearts

ahh me too!

 

[abdul2009]

Good post. We all know how much every run matters in those last innings chases. And the 40 runs india beneficted by Zaheer escaping two bad decisions yesterday made a HUGE difference.
And now to ad, umpires killed the match by giving Boucher and AB wrongly.

Agree Completely

 

[purplehaze]

Oh yeah SA are chokers i agree on that, but sure the indians got the umpiring decisions go their way this time around and that does play a huge role in the win.

how you decide it played huge role?
South Africa in Durban : 136 all out and not now 161-7... that too against supposedly a lollypop attack? No it's not just and only umpiring, there's something more only if you care to see

 

[Sanchez]

When India doesn't sledge it's unprofessional and not in the spirit of cricket. But, when they do sledge(if you want to call it that) it's part of the game.
Umpires make blunders against India they should be chased out of the tour or abandon the tour itself. When blunders are made against opposition it's all part of the game and get on with it.
Double standard much. Blazin' hypocrites

 

[Sanchez]

Double Post

 

[Sameer K]

Fair enough, your team is doing well so it is indeed time to enjoy. But it would be churlish and immature not to acknowledge that India have benefited hugely from a lot of luck and umpiring mistakes.

Of course, India might have won handily without any of that luck too - but we simply don't know.

Here's hoping that the third Test is a great contest and we don't have to waste time discussing umpiring mistakes on either side after it.

What about the toss on the first test?? Were we lucky then??

Luck has swung both ways during the series.

Umpiring decisions have gone our way, but none of the decisions were "atrocious"! They were human errors. Close calls. Not atrocious! Asad Rauf is one of the better umpires out there.

We complained and complained after the sydney test. The result didn't change did it?? So go ahead and complain all you want. The scoreboard didn't change for us in sydney neither will it for SA here.

Match isn't over yet

 

[abdul2009]

how you decide it played huge role?
South Africa in Durban : 136 all out and not now 161-7... that too against supposedly a lollypop attack? No it's not just and only umpiring, there's something more only if you care to see

take out the wrong decisions made by the umpires and look what you got.

SA 161/5 needing around 100 to win. The scenario changes a bit.

 

[dinakar]

Fair enough, your team is doing well so it is indeed time to enjoy. But it would be churlish and immature not to acknowledge that India have benefited hugely from a lot of luck and umpiring mistakes.

Of course, India might have won handily without any of that luck too - but we simply don't know.

Here's hoping that the third Test is a great contest and we don't have to waste time discussing umpiring mistakes on either side after it.

my comments were not directed at you or any other sensible posters or not even in general. it meant for a couple of posts just above that.

 

[cric_fan82]

When India doesn't sledge it's unprofessional and not in the spirit of cricket. But, when they do sledge(if you want to call it that) it's part of the game.
Umpires make blunders against India they should be chased out of the tour or abandon the tour itself. When blunders are made against opposition it's all part of the game and get on with it.
Double standard much.

oops that was your attempt of making a serious post!

 

[MIG]

This "rona" about umpiring is sour grapes.

India have won with the conditions that were agreed upon before.

Lets stand up and applaud Indian bowlers for taking up the challenge and for Laxmans heroics.

 

[atif.raza]

India are such a lucky team, in my mind SA have already won this game. 2-0 to SA well done for series win over these FTB

lol,

Nahi yaar. India have truly outperformed SAF in this test. A couple of wrong decisions does not make a difference. India has batted/bowled better than SAF and are reaping the rewards

This is also a good slap on the face to all the morons who were accusing India of being an undeserving number 1 team. The fact of the matter is that under Dhoni, India has done exceptionally well both at and away from home and are rightly the number 1 test team in the World.

 

[cricketfan2010]

He's envious. Kallis has a higher batting average despite not spending half his matches on flat tracks like Sachin. Oh and almost 300 wickets too. Sachin wishes he could be as good as kallis.

Kallis is also number 1 choker. Has he ever won or saved any test match for South Africa.. ever!!!

 

[MIG]

This "rona" about umpiring is sour grapes.

India have won with the conditions that were agreed upon before.

Lets stand up and applaud Indian bowlers for taking up the challenge and for Laxmans heroics.

Btw - and here's a point to debate for atleast 10 pages - Indian victory and NO SRT 100?

 

[dinakar]

Good post. We all know how much every run matters in those last innings chases. And the 40 runs india beneficted by Zaheer escaping two bad decisions yesterday made a HUGE difference.
And now to ad, umpires killed the match by giving Boucher and AB wrongly.

it may be karma same Rauf given Sachin out wrongly at a crucial time during the last tour and SA benefited of that.

 

[wasim-fan]

Fair enough, your team is doing well so it is indeed time to enjoy. But it would be churlish and immature not to acknowledge that India have benefited hugely from a lot of luck and umpiring mistakes.

Of course, India might have won handily without any of that luck too - but we simply don't know.

Here's hoping that the third Test is a great contest and we don't have to waste time discussing umpiring mistakes on either side after it.

That is a fair comment. India has also been on the rough side of the decisions too. I don't remember being a lot of hue and cry then by other cricket fans. In fact, Indians were termed as whiners. Funny how things change. Ofcourse India's status in world cricket also makes a lot of difference now.

As for BCCI, ICC has to stamp down and convey that it is not optional. Honestly I don't understand why blame BCCI. If it is not mandatory, how is BCCI obligated to use technology.

Plus, the Indian player's contentions relating to hawk eye which was first used in test cricket in Ind-SL series is completely valid. I have not seen one post, not one post addressing the rules that have been employed for hawk eye LBWs. I have not seen ICC addressing the issues raised by Kumble and co. at the time.

 

[Torpedo]

India has won this.

 

[moumotta]

The game is not over yet. Why are SafBackers losing heart.

Guess thats what happens when you back a team for the wrong reasons

 

[srt]

critics can say whatever .... dhoni and his men have proved india is no.1 .. south africa is nothing but **** ..."NUMBER 2"

 

[purplehaze]

take out the wrong decisions made by the umpires and look what you got.

SA 161/5 needing around 100 to win. The scenario changes a bit.

Nope sorry, won't take out anything. We are good where we are. Side note - amazed how you managed to came up with such stats.

 

[dinakar]

btw, the match is not over. another Laxmn-Zaheer like partnership between these two can swing the game.

 

[cricketfan2010]

Please give South Africa a break. May be they are not chokers.. They are just not good enough to defend their number 2 status in their backyard. Unfortunately they didn't have enough things going their way in this match.. Smith won the toss so that their green track bully stain could bowl in overcast conditions on a helpful pitch.. But those bunch of nobodies Indians scored 200 runs. Then Indian spinners and slow bowlers decided to shot out South African FTBs for 131.

 

[The WagonWheel]

That is a fair comment. India has also been on the rough side of the decisions too. I don't remember being a lot of hue and cry then by other cricket fans. In fact, Indians were termed as whiners. Funny how things change. Ofcourse India's status in world cricket also makes a lot of difference now.

As for BCCI, ICC has to stamp down and convey that it is not optional. Honestly I don't understand why blame BCCI. If it is not mandatory, how is BCCI obligated to use technology.

Plus, the Indian player's contentions relating to hawk eye which was first used in test cricket in Ind-SL series is completely valid. I have not seen one post, not one post addressing the rules that have been employed for hawk eye LBWs. I have not seen ICC addressing the issues raised by Kumble and co. at the time.

+1 ...

Also, UDRS is not used for both the teams, how can India or BCCI pre-plan to get benefitted out of it.... And those complaining about luck and chaotic umpiring, let me quote a certain Mr Joker here. "Ah and you know the thing about chaos, its fair ..."

 

[cricketfan2010]

critics can say whatever .... dhoni and his men have proved india is no.1 .. south africa is nothing but **** ..."NUMBER 2"

What? There is no way S. Africa are better then England.. England Number 2 all the way. Then S. Africa. Then Australia and S. lanka fighting it out for 4th spot.

 

[ShehryarK]

Oh yeah SA are chokers i agree on that, but sure the indians got the umpiring decisions go their way this time around and that does play a huge role in the win.

Not sure about the "huge" role bit, but even if they did, that's the luck of the draw - these things happen.

 

[Sahil.]

No matter what happens , the Indians have justified their number 1 ranking

 

[ShehryarK]

What about the toss on the first test?? Were we lucky then??

Luck has swung both ways during the series.

Umpiring decisions have gone our way, but none of the decisions were "atrocious"! They were human errors. Close calls. Not atrocious! Asad Rauf is one of the better umpires out there.

We complained and complained after the sydney test. The result didn't change did it?? So go ahead and complain all you want. The scoreboard didn't change for us in sydney neither will it for SA here.

Match isn't over yet

Not sure why you keep going on and on and on about "atrocious" umpiring when I never said and didn't even imply that the umpiring here had been "atrocious"??

my comments were not directed at you or any other sensible posters or not even in general. it meant for a couple of posts just above that.

Fair enough mate

Yes, those posts above or earlier in this thread talking about "bribery" and "systematic cheating"..... serious LOLs at them.

 

[ShehryarK]

Honestly I don't understand why blame BCCI. If it is not mandatory, how is BCCI obligated to use technology.

In any case, this was not an India home series so the BCCI is not calling the shots. The SA board agreed to all these terms and conditions and were happy to play on this basis.

Plus, the Indian player's contentions relating to hawk eye which was first used in test cricket in Ind-SL series is completely valid. I have not seen one post, not one post addressing the rules that have been employed for hawk eye LBWs. I have not seen ICC addressing the issues raised by Kumble and co. at the time.

What was their contention? Hawkeye is not perfect, but it is far, far better than just guesswork which is what we have now - and its not intended to be 100% perfect anyway. Its purpose is to eliminate major umpiring howlers, and its very, very good at that.

 

[liaqat]

upiring has been ridiculous and all have gone in favor of india,,
boucher wasnt out,, and ztyn has zaheer dead plum yesterday,,
referalls shud be univarsally used in tests
unfair on saffers or they would have won

 

[dinakar]

Plus, the Indian player's contentions relating to hawk eye which was first used in test cricket in Ind-SL series is completely valid. I have not seen one post, not one post addressing the rules that have been employed for hawk eye LBWs. I have not seen ICC addressing the issues raised by Kumble and co. at the time.

it was not hawk eye but something called "virtual eye" used in that series which was pretty bad. moreover, snicko was not supposed to use for the decision making.

 

[cric_fan82]

Please give South Africa a break. May be they are not chokers.. They are just not good enough to defend their number 2 status in their backyard. Unfortunately they didn't have enough things going their way in this match.. Smith won the toss so that their green track bully stain could bowl in overcast conditions on a helpful pitch.. But those bunch of nobodies Indians scored 200 runs. Then Indian spinners and slow bowlers decided to shot out South African FTBs for 131.

I would take a lil easy on the SA team, they are pretty decent guys and a deserving Nr 2 if not Nr. 1! Except for some Sa posters, which are not even from SA, they are nice n quite humble! just ignore the the troll!

 

[ddss]

everyone chill out match is not over yet

 

[Animal]

I would take a lil easy on the SA team, they are pretty decent guys and a deserving Nr 2 if not Nr. 1! Except for some Sa posters, which are not even from SA, they are nice n quite humble! just ignore the the troll!

Plus this match is not over yet. Less than 130 needed to win. Could go either way.

 

[dinakar]

need Bhajji to be given an over before lunch. Harris doesn't look much troubled.

 

[Acim]

India playing like a top ranked side.

 

[Acim]

India have been in this position before in a test series in SA 1-1, are they going to better that this time around by winning the series?

That will certainly clear many doubts that cricket fans still have on them being the number 1 side all over the world.

 

[cric_fan82]

Plus this match is not over yet. Less than 130 needed to win. Could go either way.

absolutely! this is the magic of cricket! SA are gonna fight it out till the last wicket is out!

 

[Sameer K]

Not sure why you keep going on and on and on about "atrocious" umpiring when I never said and didn't even imply that the umpiring here had been "atrocious"??


Fair enough mate

Yes, those posts above or earlier in this thread talking about "bribery" and "systematic cheating"..... serious LOLs at them.

The post was meant for certain posters who have gone over board. Saying the umpires have been paid and such. They were just genuine mistakes, not malicious with forethought.

Game isn't over yet!! If SA win this, its going to be hard for us Indian fans. "Even after the umpiring decisions....", its going to be a pain in the a$$.

 

[Sanchez]

It's getting hot around here. I'll be back for 3rd Test when SA will be on their way to winning the series 2-1

 

[Uzzy_Khan]

need Bhajji to be given an over before lunch. Harris doesn't look much troubled.

tu le le bhajji da over

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

What a match

 

[Random Aussie]

What is this talking as if India have won the series? You are 1-0 down lol. Dreamers.

 

[wasim-fan]

In any case, this was not an India home series so the BCCI is not calling the shots. The SA board agreed to all these terms and conditions and were happy to play on this basis.


What was their contention? Hawkeye is not perfect, but it is far, far better than just guesswork which is what we have now - and its not intended to be 100% perfect anyway. Its purpose is to eliminate major umpiring howlers, and its very, very good at that.

Absolutely, that was the purpose. But as was mentioned in ashes series, what has happened is that sides have started going for the 50-50 decisions. So, if they make two bad judgements, they lose and howlers will not be corrected. So, game remains liable to the vagaries of ump. decisions which goes against the purpose of UDRS.

Well I was searching for the link, couldn't get it. From memory, Kumble had atleast this issue. One, with the hawk eye system itself, which the creators of technology themselves consider as an estimation of trajectory unlike the technology which is used for the edges now. So, on this basis of technology of estimation you are questioning ump. decision which can be overturned even if it hits a 1mm on the bail or on leg or off. So, sides will start going for appeals for decisions hoping to get off on the error of estmation and not retaining the appeals for the howlers. Hence, the game remains unbalanced with original element of luck from ump. decisions to element of luck on technology.

Two, the issue raised now is with this new ruling of 50% ball hitting the stumps. If the ump. gives it out, then the ball only has to hit the stumps even if it hits a mm on the bail. However if the ump. gives it not out, then more than 50% of ball should be hitting the stumps to overrule his decision. So, it takes the definition of law is an ass to the limit whereby you still make the inconclusive technology subordinate to ump. decision.

In short, technology which does not vouch accuracy which is used to verify the ump decision yet you make it contingent to the actual decision that ump takes.

 

[Uzzy_Khan]

They will all disappear in a few hours when Prince hits the winning runs, Inshallah!!

 

[Random Aussie]

The irony of your arguments now is not lost on PP, Indian fans.

Some of these posts could have been from 2008 Sydney with posters on opposing sides.

Without the courage of conviction opinions are lame.

 

[ShehryarK]

Absolutely, that was the purpose. But as was mentioned in ashes series, what has happened is that sides have started going for the 50-50 decisions. So, if they make two bad judgements, they lose and howlers will not be corrected. So, game remains liable to the vagaries of ump. decisions which goes against the purpose of UDRS.

Very true. But in that case, the side "losing out" would be the one that wasted its reviews on 50:50 calls. Hence, in a way justice would be done. They tried to get "cheeky" with their reviews, and wasted them on 50:50 calls - now when they really need a review, they have none left.

Well I was searching for the link, couldn't get it. From memory, Kumble had atleast this issue. One, with the hawk eye system itself, which the creators of technology themselves consider as an estimation of trajectory unlike the technology which is used for the edges now. So, on this basis of technology of estimation you are questioning ump. decision which can be overturned even if it hits a 1mm on the bail or on leg or off. So, sides will start going for appeals for decisions hoping to get off on the error of estmation and not retaining the appeals for the howlers. Hence, the game remains unbalanced with original element of luck from ump. decisions to element of luck on technology.

But now that's addressed because if only 1mm of the ball hits the stumps, it remains with the on-field umpire's call!

Two, the issue raised now is with this new ruling of 50% ball hitting the stumps. If the ump. gives it out, then the ball only has to hit the stumps even if it hits a mm on the bail. However if the ump. gives it not out, then more than 50% of ball should be hitting the stumps to overrule his decision. So, it takes the definition of law is an ass to the limit whereby you still make the inconclusive technology subordinate to ump. decision.

Perhaps, but the way I look at it is this: the purpose of the technology and of the DRS is to eliminate howlers.

Everything else is not its purpose, its a by-product.

If less than 50% of the ball is hitting the stumps, then by definition, it is NOT a howler whether the on-field umpire gave it out, or he gave it not out. Instead, its a 50:50 call.

On such 50:50 calls, technology is not the Master - the on-field umpire is

However, if more than 50% of ball is hitting, that means it is more clear-cut.

And if the whole ball is missing by 4 inches and is still given out - now that's a howler! And for that we have the technology.

In short, technology which does not vouch accuracy which is used to verify the ump decision yet you make it contingent to the actual decision that ump takes.

No, that's a wrong way to read the whole issue, IMHO.

 

[Romali_rotti]

1 more wicket come on BOYZ, lets ROLL OUT...

 

[NJamal]

This match is still on, if these two add another 60-70 runs then Indians will wilt under pressure.

 

[saffer]

critics can say whatever .... dhoni and his men have proved india is no.1 .. south africa is nothing but **** ..."NUMBER 2"

Settle down. The game isn't even over, never mind the series.

 

[dinakar]

Very true. But in that case, the side "losing out" would be the one that wasted its reviews on 50:50 calls. Hence, in a way justice would be done. They tried to get "cheeky" with their reviews, and wasted them on 50:50 calls - now when they really need a review, they have none left.
But now that's addressed because if only 1mm of the ball hits the stumps, it remains with the on-field umpire's call!
Perhaps, but the way I look at it is this: the purpose of the technology and of the DRS is to eliminate howlers.

Everything else is not its purpose, its a by-product.

If less than 50% of the ball is hitting the stumps, then by definition, it is NOT a howler whether the on-field umpire gave it out, or he gave it not out. Instead, its a 50:50 call.

On such 50:50 calls, technology is not the Master - the on-field umpire is

However, if more than 50% of ball is hitting, that means it is more clear-cut.

And if the whole ball is missing by 4 inches and is still given out - now that's a howler! And for that we have the technology.
No, that's a wrong way to read the whole issue, IMHO.

India has still the paranoia of UDRS used in Srilanka. if the UDRS is used in this match the same as was in Srilanka, those two decisions not necessarily overturned, because, the predictor function of virtual eye was not supposed to use. umpires will be given the trajectory till it hits the pad. in ABD's case, it hits him in the line of middle stump. now how to see the height? umpire will be shown how far was his stride forward and where it hits on the leg, then it is his call to estimate the height. that means, whether there is substantial evidence to overturns the decision. well, Might go in favor of batsman but less chance with Boucher's case as he hits on the back foot with the line of the off stump.

I haven't seen LBW shout against Zaheer to see how close was the bat and pad. in 2008, one of Zaheer's review for a LBW shout was turned down as there was no overwhelming evidence to prove no edge although replays didn't pick up any edge, snicko was not allowed to use in that series.

Having said that, i have no idea of UDRS mechanism used in ashes and I wish it has been improved. personally I wish to see it implemented.

 

[cric_fan82]

Zak Strikes!

 

[ddss]

harris gone

 

[ddss]

wow that was a beauty

 

[cricketfan2010]

Harris, the best spinner in South Africa is out now....

 

[cricketfan2010]

Absolutely, that was the purpose. But as was mentioned in ashes series, what has happened is that sides have started going for the 50-50 decisions. So, if they make two bad judgements, they lose and howlers will not be corrected. So, game remains liable to the vagaries of ump. decisions which goes against the purpose of UDRS.

Well I was searching for the link, couldn't get it. From memory, Kumble had atleast this issue. One, with the hawk eye system itself, which the creators of technology themselves consider as an estimation of trajectory unlike the technology which is used for the edges now. So, on this basis of technology of estimation you are questioning ump. decision which can be overturned even if it hits a 1mm on the bail or on leg or off. So, sides will start going for appeals for decisions hoping to get off on the error of estmation and not retaining the appeals for the howlers. Hence, the game remains unbalanced with original element of luck from ump. decisions to element of luck on technology.

Two, the issue raised now is with this new ruling of 50% ball hitting the stumps. If the ump. gives it out, then the ball only has to hit the stumps even if it hits a mm on the bail. However if the ump. gives it not out, then more than 50% of ball should be hitting the stumps to overrule his decision. So, it takes the definition of law is an ass to the limit whereby you still make the inconclusive technology subordinate to ump. decision.

In short, technology which does not vouch accuracy which is used to verify the ump decision yet you make it contingent to the actual decision that ump takes.

+1 . Excellent post. However two decisions against AB and Boucher were marginal ones. Its part and parcel of the game. UDRS is for shockers. In last series against Australia (india home series) plenty of decisions went against India. Its just rub of the green.

 

[singh]

i hope in next test dhoni wins the toss and put SA in ...

 

[nowayout]

End is near .. So much struggle even to get 200 tht too in ur own backyard .. pathetic

 

[cricketfan2010]

India has still the paranoia of UDRS used in Srilanka. if the UDRS is used in this match the same as was in Srilanka, those two decisions not necessarily overturned, because, the predictor function of virtual eye was not supposed to use. umpires will be given the trajectory till it hits the pad. in ABD's case, it hits him in the line of middle stump. now how to see the height? umpire will be shown how far was his stride forward and where it hits on the leg, then it is his call to estimate the height. that means, whether there is substantial evidence to overturns the decision. well, Might go in favor of batsman but less chance with Boucher's case as he hits on the back foot with the line of the off stump.

I haven't seen LBW shout against Zaheer to see how close was the bat and pad. in 2008, one of Zaheer's review for a LBW shout was turned down as there was no overwhelming evidence to prove no edge although replays didn't pick up any edge, snicko was not allowed to use in that series.

Having said that, i have no idea of UDRS mechanism used in ashes and I wish it has been improved. personally I wish to see it implemented.

+1. Dhoni, Tendulkar and co. are saying that technology is not full proof. There were lot of issues in that Sri Lanka series. May be thats whats stopping them from using UDRS. In any case people who are jelous of India's success will find something else to moan about even when there is UDRS. They will come up with excuses like.... BCCI doctored the camera work or hawk eye technology. .

 

[cricketfan2010]

i hope in next test dhoni wins the toss and put SA in ...

Oh No!!!!.. Next they will be accusing BCCI of doctoring the toss...

 

[singh]

Oh No!!!!.. Next they will be accusing BCCI of doctoring the toss...

in that case they have to use that 'sholay' coin..

 

[SOSami]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the umpiring has been atrocious.

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Indian bowlers dominating the South-African batting :3 . It's quite good to see them clicking once in a while , seriously I was starting to feel sick seeing them go for "OoDles" of runs again and again .

Bad umpiring decisions are part of the game , crying about them is just pathetic . The SA bowlers bowled good as well but it took a special Laxman inning's to keep them at bay , Laxman Rockz ! .

Sreesanth got really fired up after that unpleasant moment with Smith , loved seeing him steaming in . That bouncer to Kallis was just Awesome ! Moment of the match for me .

Overall good performance by India , SA are left thinking what to do for the next match .

 

[Romali_rotti]

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