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South Africa vs India | 2nd Test | Centurion | Jan 13-17, 2018 | Day 3 | Discussion Thread

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This day can decide the fate of this test match
 
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Kohli and Pandya can take the game away from SA quite quickly if the SA bowlers are not on point today. SA need to dismiss one of the two in the first half an hour.
 
If these 2 bat till lunch, India will inch closer to lead. SA need to get atleast 1 of them before new ball
 
This series is so far like one guy is running at 60 km/h and the other at 50 km/h. The 2nd guy is falling down on the street at times (drop chances) while the 1st guy sees that back and takes a nap, wakes up and sees the 2nd guy going past, throws a stone at him and easily reaches the target before him!

If only the 2nd guy took the proper energy food (team-selection), he could have easily run at 70 km/h & did not bother about anything!

Even though the matches are looking close, people can easily feel that one team can comfortably beat the other!
 
Welcome to 21st century Kohli! Hopefully you can see some realities of cricket apart from your amazing batting skills!
 
He's the complete anti of Root. Kohli's conversion rate is ridiculously good.
 
Great innings by Kohli

India somehow HAVE to get to 350
 
pitch turning. southafrica need a big lead. feel ashwin will blow them away on this wicket as maharaj is spinning
 
@sensibleIndianFan [MENTION=1697]jusarrived[/MENTION]

This innings is proving how right I was. They have given a freak run out for no reason and are still doing it well.
 
Kohli has been imperious again and Ashwin has been absolute class today. Crucial runs here.
 
India first level the score as soon as possible..than have to think about lead..kohli is key here.
 
Variable bounce is already there. What makes it harder difference in bounce is not much noticable sometimes. So it is hard to play cut shots.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
@sensibleIndianFan [MENTION=1697]jusarrived[/MENTION]

This innings is proving how right I was. They have given a freak run out for no reason and are still doing it well.
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3 points:

1. Yes, Ashwin being lucky early but surviving is a likely occurrence. Playing a serious knock away from home in a pressure cooker situation is an expected occurrence. Just now, almost got out twice in 2 balls to Maharaj...we should expect surviving that is a likely occurrence?

2. I don't see how you were proven right. Pandya was terribly unlucky but Ash was a bit lucky. Kohli got a ball to pop which landed in no man's land.

3. If you being right means India does well, then I hope you always end up right brother. :D
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
3 points:

1. Yes, Ashwin being lucky early but surviving is a likely occurrence. Playing a serious knock away from home in a pressure cooker situation is an expected occurrence. Just now, almost got out twice in 2 balls to Maharaj...we should expect surviving that is a likely occurrence?

2. I don't see how you were proven right. Pandya was terribly unlucky but Ash was a bit lucky. Kohli got a ball to pop which landed in no man's land.

3. If you being right means India does well, then I hope you always end up right brother. :D
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SA would have lost 22 wickets if this was the sort of accounting we were doing. In the end, despite gifting a wicket we are in a very nice spot where we won't give a huge lead, but might get a nice one. Your projection was 80% chance all out by now.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
SA would have lost 22 wickets if this was the sort of accounting we were doing. In the end, despite gifting a wicket we are in a very nice spot where we won't give a huge lead, but might get a nice one. Your projection was 80% chance all out by now.
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The point is simple:

1. You do not expect this occurrence when you calculate odds. You do not expect a player to survive such close calls. Ash survived another 2 calls...One dragged on and one lbw.

2. As for 80%, I said it yesterday itself....the closer we get to SA total, the odds will shift reduce from 80.

3. There are periods in test matches where you are just one wicket away from glory.

India was one wicket away from series win in SA in 2010 when we had them 130-6 in 3rd innings.
Australia was one wicket away from potential series win in India 2017 when they had us under pump and Pujara and Rahane somehow survived and turned the tables in Bangalore.
India was 1-2 wicket away from Wellington win when we had them 96-6.

I can list out many such instances when a team would go from 10-20% chance to 50-75% of winning the game.

And that my friend, is why test cricket ROCKS.
 
Absolutely Brilliant from India. I expect them to be in the driver's seat now. The pitch will crumble and SA will collapse to spin in the next innings.

What a blunder by SA by giving such a pitch to India. Probably wanted the match to last 5 days but this has backfired. Overconfident bunch.
 
Madplayer said:
Absolutely Brilliant from India. I expect them to be in the driver's seat now. The pitch will crumble and SA will collapse to spin in the next innings.

What a blunder by SA by giving such a pitch to India. Probably wanted the match to last 5 days but this has backfired. Overconfident bunch.
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Hold your horses, the match is not even half finished yet.
 
This stupid shot by Ash could have been played when he was at 0.

And whole game would have been different.

As I type, Shami out because of Ashwin.

Do you see my point now [MENTION=135134]CricketAnalyst[/MENTION]
 
wow that's poor from Kohli. Shami's wicket due to Kohli. why he's taking single on last ball?
 
Sarwar89 said:
Hold your horses, the match is not even half finished yet.
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What is wrong in what i said?
India will surely be in driver's seat now. The pitch is turning, SA struggle against spin. 2+2= 4.
 
Madplayer said:
Absolutely Brilliant from India. I expect them to be in the driver's seat now. The pitch will crumble and SA will collapse to spin in the next innings.

What a blunder by SA by giving such a pitch to India. Probably wanted the match to last 5 days but this has backfired. Overconfident bunch.
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It was not a blunder my friend.

It was premeditated from the day 1 of the 1st game. If you know what I mean :srini
 
also Ishant should have been better choice than Shami. he has better defensive skill.
 
Pandya and Ash gifted their wickets away due to poor temperament.

I am not gonna comment on Kohli for now. Let him play.

India is just 50 runs behind.
 
Smbhayi said:
also Ishant should have been better choice than Shami. he has better defensive skill.
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Agreed, Ishant is a blocker. Shami is one of those batsmen who Kohli should have been shielding, so should have batted no higher than #10.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
The point is simple:

1. You do not expect this occurrence when you calculate odds. You do not expect a player to survive such close calls. Ash survived another 2 calls...One dragged on and one lbw.

2. As for 80%, I said it yesterday itself....the closer we get to SA total, the odds will shift reduce from 80.

3. There are periods in test matches where you are just one wicket away from glory.

India was one wicket away from series win in SA in 2010 when we had them 130-6 in 3rd innings.
Australia was one wicket away from potential series win in India 2017 when they had us under pump and Pujara and Rahane somehow survived and turned the tables in Bangalore.
India was 1-2 wicket away from Wellington win when we had them 96-6.

I can list out many such instances when a team would go from 10-20% chance to 50-75% of winning the game.

And that my friend, is why test cricket ROCKS.
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Batsmen do survive a reasonable number of close calls all the time. Hence my point about SA's batting.

My point was our getting close was quite likely all the time.

And on all those occasions we were winning, so I don't see how that contradicts my point of view. That also happens in all forms of cricket. Teams have even gone from 0.01% chance to win in T20s as well (and ODIs too).

The point is our batting today hasn't been abnormally good and we have every chance to win the game.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
@sensibleIndianFan [MENTION=1697]jusarrived[/MENTION]

This innings is proving how right I was. They have given a freak run out for no reason and are still doing it well.
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Proved what right ?
even if India get a small lead it wont be easy for us . We will be again dependent on Virat in the second innings , thanks to batsmen he continues to pick . Good luck with tail wagging when we chase .

As for us doing well , I have said much before the series started . This is a series we should have won , muffed up the first test . Though this is a match SA are favs to win and if we manage to pull this off we would have done really well .
 
jusarrived said:
Proved what right ?
even if India get a small lead it wont be easy for us . We will be again dependent on Virat in the second innings , thanks to batsmen he continues to pick . Good luck with tail wagging when we chase .

As for us doing well , I have said much before the series started . This is a series we should have won , muffed up the first test . Though this is a match SA are favs to win and if we manage to pull this off we would have done really well .
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The idea that we are behind even if we lead is your subjective assessment. Exactly the one I'm saying is wrong. This entire series the games have been extremely close and Indian fans suicidal because they think we are getting destroyed.

Reality, we lost a very important toss, dropped a bunch of catches and we are still close to taking a lead. We've been playing better than them, and I expect that to continue.
 
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