South Africa vs Pakistan | 4th ODI | Johannesburg | Jan 27, 2019 | South Africa innings Thread

[a_tahir]

50 for bhai!!!!!

bhai bhai with them fifties

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

It’s still a good passage of play for Pakistan

how?

 

[Mueez]

Pakistan have pulled back the RR dramatically here

Because of the spinners.

 

[Tracer Bullet]

Amla finding his form just before the World cup not good news for opposition teams.. Pakistan what have you done..

 

[DRsohail]

Imad is such a nothing bowler. Need a proper second spinner.

We have been crying about that for last two years here on pp ,but fot his t occur Micky has to go.

 

[Pete Rose]

So looking ahead, Pakistan will probably need a cover for shinwaris bowling, likely, hafeez.

 

[Gullycricket]

This pitch is quick.Faf says

 

[mak36]

i'll place an order for one, should be here soon.

Lol, no need. Plenty of options already waiting.

 

[DRsohail]

A wicket here and run rate will come down more.

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Wats average score on this pitch

 

[Omer2002]

spin saved us ..otherwise it would have been downhill

 

[shariqnoor]

Pakistan may have pulled back the RR, but if they don't take wickets, they will go the journey in the last 12 overs. Getting 120-130 in the last 10 at Joburg isn't difficult with its high altitude. The ball travels a lot. Need to have SA at least 5 down by the 40th over.

 

[Gullycricket]

Good pressure

 

[Mueez]

Shadab to get Faf out quickly.

 

[IAJ]

Lovely control Shadab

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Pak need these 2 gone asap

 

[Pete Rose]

how?

South Africa haven’t been able to get away with the run rate. Pakistan need wickets definitely, but these are two guys on 50 struggling against some pretty good bowling. Just two boundaries over the last 6 overs or so.

 

[mak36]

Shadab has bowled so well this series. Amazing how much he has improved with his control. % of legspinners is also pleasing.

 

[MMHS]

you honestly think this team is capable of chasing 300?

I think so - this is J'burg with 60 metre boundary and 2 balls. Obviously if one opener bats entire Power Play and then gets out for 19 (35), it won't happen, but 300 is within range. Once set, it's impossible to contain set batsman a 2000 metres altitude with a small boundary. Also, PAK's batting is stronger today on papers.

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Prediction: Faf to run someone out.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what Malik has done here to give spinners long spells specially shadab and he looks more threatening.

 

[Tracer Bullet]

Faf Broom Plesis

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

South Africa haven’t been able to get away with the run rate. Pakistan need wickets definitely, but these are two guys on 50 struggling against some pretty good bowling. Just two boundaries over the last 6 overs or so.

Yeah but with hitters like Miller in the shed as well as Faf going savage mode anytime its gonna take just 2 good overs to undo all this.

Wickeless period has more impact I think than some quiet overs

 

[mak36]

Lol at no one criticising Malik's captaincy.

 

[Mueez]

This is very good captaincy by Malik.

Giving the spinners an extra long spell.

 

[Chokli]

I think so - this is J'burg with 60 metre boundary and 2 balls. Obviously if one opener bats entire Power Play and then gets out for 19 (35), it won't happen, but 300 is within range. Once set, it's impossible to contain set batsman a 2000 metres altitude with a small boundary. Also, PAK's batting is stronger today on papers.

not happening, even with an afridi blitz they only managed about 309 odd last time...

 

[IAJ]

Faf getting annoyed with Rizwan lol

 

[Gullycricket]

Lol at no one criticising Malik's captaincy.

He has been good

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Shud get Hafeez on

 

[Gullycricket]

Loving Rizwan .So atheletic

 

[Something]

Faf getting annoyed with Rizwan lol

What's Rizwan doing?

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

10 overs of Hafeez on this pitch wud do wonders

 

[IAJ]

Yaar throw in a quick one, he is backing off til much

 

[Xoib]

Shadab looks more threatening than Chal/Kuldeep at times.

He is incredibly talented bowler his leg break turns sharply while his googly is well disguised also has a decent top spinner when you watch him bowl it’s clear he has not bowled a lot so he needs more overs in especially in 4day cricket,if he can bring consistency especially in his length he will become world class

 

[babajee]

Great stuff here from both Imad and Shadab.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

Unless Rizwan has improved so much ( think Shan Masood), we are in for a huge disappoitment. With Sarfraz you get bad patches but you know he can hit a cover drive or step down and clip it away.

With Rizwan he is horrible at getting it away. Saw in AUS odis and looked worse than any tail ender ever . Spineless blocks

 

[Pete Rose]

Squeeze you bottle you up put pressure....opines rameez

 

[MMHS]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] what Malik has done here to give spinners long spells specially shadab and he looks more threatening.

Spinners should always bowl longer spells and look for wickets. Last game, it was stupidity of highest order to use Shadab just after rain, when PAK should have used pacers as much as possible and may be not bowl Shadad at all.

 

[IAJ]

What's Rizwan doing?

Chirping and over-appealing

 

[Pete Rose]

Faf getting annoyed with Rizwan lol

What’d I miss.

 

[mak36]

He has been good

Too defensive.

 

[Chokli]

imad has been getting all the hate yet has been more economical than shadab

 

[Something]

Slog sweep



and pressure off for South Africa

 

[Mamoon]

I understand that this is not a popular viewpoint, but I prefer Imad to Shadab.

Shadab is not good enough to bat in the middle-order, and his tuk tuk is of no use down the order. His batting does not have the impact of Imad.

As far as his bowling is concerned, for all the oohs and aahs and the googlies, he doesn’t take enough wickets against good opposition, and his returns are more or less similar to Imad’s.

Imad is the most reliable lower-order hitter we have at the moment. Yes he is no Buttler or Maxwell, but he is relatively better than our other options such as Nawaz, Faheem, of course Shadab and that hack Asif Ali.

Shadab is obviously better at fielding for the cameras though.

Nevertheless, Shadab is one of the blue eyed boys who can do wrong, while Imad is one of the villians who can do no right.

 

[Gullycricket]

Holding was right

 

[Green Patriot]

Our bowling is boring to watch sometimes.

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

imad has been getting all the hate yet has been more economical than shadab

shadabs role in the team is trying to pick a wicket which means pitching it up and getting hit more too

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Why no Hafeez till now

 

[Chokli]

if this was imam batting with babar and imam was 53 off 74 balls, this forum would have started slitting their wrists and wondering why they aren't 244/2 in 25 overs

 

[Gullycricket]

Shut ur eyes and hope fr best

 

[Chokli]

shadabs role in the team is trying to pick a wicket which means pitching it up and getting hit more too

doesn't get enough wickets

 

[Something]

Another four!
Shadab leaking runs now.

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Rubbishhh 1 over pressure release

 

[Gullycricket]

Pressure released

 

[Pete Rose]

Yeah but with hitters like Miller in the shed as well as Faf going savage mode anytime its gonna take just 2 good overs to undo all this.

Wickeless period has more impact I think than some quiet overs

That’s true, although I personally don’t rate Miller. Never seen him do anything of note against Pakistan

 

[Baigel]

Gottem

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Shadyyyyy

 

[babajee]

Alhamdullilah. Didn't expect Hafeez to catch that

 

[Mueez]

Outttttt

 

[world cup captain]

The problem with Imad is though he may be able to keep the runs low, he cannot force a wicket with his skills. It's better for Pakistan to find someone who could do that instead.

 

[Gullycricket]

Yessssssss

 

[Ozymandiasza]

Shadab Khan has Faf's number.

Heh

 

[Something]

 

[IAJ]

Have a feeling Shadab will get Faf IA

Well well

 

[Pakpak]

Rameez is so bad its not even a joke now.

 

[Chokli]

shadabs role in the team is trying to pick a wicket which means pitching it up and getting hit more too

he gets a wicket, but it's criminal to go for 6.6 runs an over on a spinning pitch

 

[iPakistani]

Shadabbb!! What a bowler!

 

[Gullycricket]

Faf is the bunny of Shady

 

[MMHS]

not happening, even with an afridi blitz they only managed about 309 odd last time...

The context was totally different - single ball, 4 fielders in ring between 11-40 overs and that was a different SAF attack. Also, PAK's top order failed and they were chasing 343, had balls in hand, but lost too many early wickets.

 

[DRsohail]

I understand that this is not a popular viewpoint, but I prefer Imad to Shadab.

Shadab is not good enough to bat in the middle-order, and his tuk tuk is of no use down the order. His batting does not have the impact of Imad.

As far as his bowling is concerned, for all the oohs and aahs and the googlies, he doesn’t take enough wickets against good opposition, and his returns are more or less similar to Imad’s.

Imad is the most reliable lower-order hitter we have at the moment. Yes he is no Buttler or Maxwell, but he is relatively better than our other options such as Nawaz, Faheem, of course Shadab and that hack Asif Ali.

Shadab is obviously better at fielding for the cameras though.

Nevertheless, Shadab is one of the blue eyed boys who can do wrong, while Imad is one of the villians who can do no right.

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] strongly disagree here.Shadab may not be upto the mark but Imad over him,lolz.

 

[Green Patriot]

Bye Bye Kaptaan.

 

[Goharn]

Faf should've been gone a long time ago, now get f outta here

 

[Gullycricket]

Lol Hafeez with those glasses

 

[Xoib]

I understand that this is not a popular viewpoint, but I prefer Imad to Shadab.

Shadab is not good enough to bat in the middle-order, and his tuk tuk is of no use down the order. His batting does not have the impact of Imad.

As far as his bowling is concerned, for all the oohs and aahs and the googlies, he doesn’t take enough wickets against good opposition, and his returns are more or less similar to Imad’s.

Imad is the most reliable lower-order hitter we have at the moment. Yes he is no Buttler or Maxwell, but he is relatively better than our other options such as Nawaz, Faheem, of course Shadab and that hack Asif Ali.

Shadab is obviously better at fielding for the cameras though.

Nevertheless, Shadab is one of the blue eyed boys who can do wrong, while Imad is one of the villians who can do no right.

Shadab especially the bowler has a lot of talent you can clearly see he has not bowled enough overs to be consistent with his length I believe if he made a debut at 25 rather then 20 with lots of FC overs behind he would have done better for Pakistan but I guess he is one of those talents who we can afford to train on the job.

 

[Chokli]

silly faf, playing at a strike rate of 75!

they will never be a modern odi side if their main middle order batsman bats like that!!!!!

 

[The intelligent Supporter]

I understand that this is not a popular viewpoint, but I prefer Imad to Shadab.

Shadab is not good enough to bat in the middle-order, and his tuk tuk is of no use down the order. His batting does not have the impact of Imad.

As far as his bowling is concerned, for all the oohs and aahs and the googlies, he doesn’t take enough wickets against good opposition, and his returns are more or less similar to Imad’s.

Imad is the most reliable lower-order hitter we have at the moment. Yes he is no Buttler or Maxwell, but he is relatively better than our other options such as Nawaz, Faheem, of course Shadab and that hack Asif Ali.

Shadab is obviously better at fielding for the cameras though.

Nevertheless, Shadab is one of the blue eyed boys who can do wrong, while Imad is one of the villians who can do no right.

Ironically, Imad is coach's unofficial favorite kid ever with his Angrezi etc . Some of the off ground scandals he has had have been brushed under and I cant remember one time where This so called "hitter" has won us an ODI or gone beserk. Just based purely on hitting ability he is not even close to as big a hitter as Asif Ali or even Fahim. Looks busy but does nothing mostly when you need him.

 

[Gullycricket]

I would complete Shady quota here

 

[Faisalabadimunda]

Now get Amir on and attack the new batsman an get afew more wkts

 

[Mansoor3120]

Shadab is going at 5+ run rate
We lost last match bcox of shadab poor bowling

 

[Chokli]

The context was totally different - single ball, 4 fielders in ring between 11-40 overs and that was a different SAF attack. Also, PAK's top order failed and they were chasing 343, had balls in hand, but lost too many early wickets.

be that as it may, they're not chasing 280 let alone 300