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Speed Watch 2019: IPL vs PSL

BDfanforever said:
Not so much, Ferguson/Rabada will be fast bowlers in any conditions. Conditions may motivate bowlers but it won't help them to release the ball significantly quicker. Conditions however may provide more seam and bounce.

I have seen enough of Bhuvi to know that he is not a 144k bowler, even today his average speed in the very first over was 134.4k. I am not saying speed guns in this year IPL is inaccurate rather they can be unreliable at times.
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No, you have seen zilch! Had you been following cricket, your knowledge would be better. Almost all the international commentators in the past 2-3 yrs have said Bhuvi has gained pace. He has reached 145 on many occasions whether in india or abroad. If you havent seen it, then you dont follow cricket.
Dont let your bias pass judgements on others. It only takes away the credibility from your posts!
 
Rightarmfast said:
No, you have seen zilch! Had you been following cricket, your knowledge would be better. Almost all the international commentators in the past 2-3 yrs have said Bhuvi has gained pace. He has reached 145 on many occasions whether in india or abroad. If you havent seen it, then you dont follow cricket.
Dont let your bias pass judgements on others. It only takes away the credibility from your posts!
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Has he really become that quick? He used to be sharp but surprised to hear he can still hit 145kph today... What has he done technically?
 
FastBowlingAllrounder said:
Has he really become that quick? He used to be sharp but surprised to hear he can still hit 145kph today... What has he done technically?
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Bhuvi bowls his effort ball as a surprise ball just like Philander. He is still the same Medium fast bowler with 135kph average with 2-5 142+ kph delivery in whole spell.
 
FastBowlingAllrounder said:
Has he really become that quick? He used to be sharp but surprised to hear he can still hit 145kph today... What has he done technically?
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He added a couple of yards to his bowling. So, about 2 yrs ago he used to bowl in early 130's, he is often in late 130's and cranks it upto 140's these days.
He has just worked on himself physically. Dont think he has changed his action or done anything else technically.
 
Russell bowling at 145.4 KM/H, if this doesn't convince you of this year's IPL speed being doubtful, I am not sure what will.


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Nikhil_cric said:
Once again Russell has hit these speeds before. Nothing surprising.
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BlackShadow said:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ost-naturally-talented-cricketers-of-all-time

I thought the consensus was that he could bowl 140-145kph easily.

Why him hitting 145kph in a T20 match a surprise then? Even Bhuvi and Pandaya do it in international Cricket quite often.
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He was trundling between 130-135k in BPL, mostly being in 133k range from what I recall. He is not a 145K bowler, even Bumrah, Boult dont reach that speed that often. Add less than 5K and Russell becomes basically faster than Lockie Ferguson.
 
BDfanforever said:
He was trundling between 130-135k in BPL, mostly being in 133k range from what I recall. He is not a 145K bowler, even Bumrah, Boult dont reach that speed that often. Add less than 5K and Russell becomes basically faster than Lockie Ferguson.
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Maybe because BPL is not important enough for him? Russell has hit these speeds before even in international cricket. And lol at you mentioning bumrah. That guy maintains 141 KS average speed over an entire test innings and has clocked upto 153 kph. Russell's average pace may not be very high but these sorts of bowlers can maintain speeds when it's only a 4 over spells.
 
BDfanforever said:
Not so much, Ferguson/Rabada will be fast bowlers in any conditions. Conditions may motivate bowlers but it won't help them to release the ball significantly quicker. Conditions however may provide more seam and bounce.

I have seen enough of Bhuvi to know that he is not a 144k bowler, even today his average speed in the very first over was 134.4k. I am not saying speed guns in this year IPL is inaccurate rather they can be unreliable at times.
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I have seen this many times Bh Kumar right arm express fast steaming in & bowl 125kph
 
BDfanforever said:
He was trundling between 130-135k in BPL, mostly being in 133k range from what I recall. He is not a 145K bowler, even Bumrah, Boult dont reach that speed that often. Add less than 5K and Russell becomes basically faster than Lockie Ferguson.
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What he did in BPL is irrelevant.

International Cricket is the benchmark and Russel hits 90mph often.

Also, there is a difference between peak speed and consistent pace. Pandaya bowling a few 145kph deliveries doesn't make him a 90mph bowler. Same with Russel.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Maybe because BPL is not important enough for him? Russell has hit these speeds before even in international cricket. And lol at you mentioning bumrah. That guy maintains 141 KS average speed over an entire test innings and has clocked upto 153 kph. Russell's average pace may not be very high but these sorts of bowlers can maintain speeds when it's only a 4 over spells.
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Ok, in that case 145k is nothing special in IPL since pretty much every single random players are hitting this speed or close to it. So it’s basically an average speed. Fast would be 148+ in IPL.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Maybe because BPL is not important enough for him? Russell has hit these speeds before even in international cricket. And lol at you mentioning bumrah. That guy maintains 141 KS average speed over an entire test innings and has clocked upto 153 kph. Russell's average pace may not be very high but these sorts of bowlers can maintain speeds when it's only a 4 over spells.
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Please let's not talk about this BPL here, our gali mohalla premier leagues pays full salary and has better video quality than this 'Below Poverty Level' league. Let's just keep it IPL Vs PSL.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Maybe because BPL is not important enough for him? Russell has hit these speeds before even in international cricket. And lol at you mentioning bumrah. That guy maintains 141 KS average speed over an entire test innings and has clocked upto 153 kph. Russell's average pace may not be very high but these sorts of bowlers can maintain speeds when it's only a 4 over spells.
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Yes, I saw Russell play ODI's in Oz & he was in the 140s quite comfortably. He varies his speed a lot so he won't avg as high as some but he was in that range. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he still has a 145 effort ball.
 
Another thread going the wrong way. Instead of discussing pace, people are more interested in speed guns.
 
wrongun said:
Yes, I saw Russell play ODI's in Oz & he was in the 140s quite comfortably. He varies his speed a lot so he won't avg as high as some but he was in that range. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he still has a 145 effort ball.
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Yeah exactly.
 
BDfanforever said:
Russell bowling at 145.4 KM/H, if this doesn't convince you of this year's IPL speed being doubtful, I am not sure what will.


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Russel, Bravo, Ben Stokes are all capable of cranking it up in the mid 140s. It's just that raw pace alone isn't worth it in modern day ODI/T20 Cricket making a lot of potential quickies stick to 130s pace and variation style bowling.

Russel is one of the strongest athletes in the game. I am surprised people can't believe he can hit that speed when Mohammad Shami does on regular basis.
 
Aaron bowled a fast and accurate spell. Touching 150ks.

Wonder why Unadkut and Kulkarni were playing before him.
 
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Hoping Hasnain to touch 154k during English series (very likely though since for the first time he has been training in top class setup for a whole month and he is only 18 or 20 at max his real age)
 
Thats crazy how India have now got a good number of bowlers with the ability to hit 150Kph, but we have started to unearth some quick bowlers who are hitting the 148 - 151kph range with
Wahab, Hasnain, Rauf, Musa and we still need to see what speeds Naseem Shah bowls at.
 
saeed5646 said:
TTF included?wahab raiz have hit 154 in recent psl .along with hasnain 151 haris 149,musa 148 and many other have hit 145 +.
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Saini 152
Yadav 151
Prasidh Bumrah and Aaron 150ks
Shami 148ks

Mavi and Nagarkoti have both hit 149ks are injured at the moment.

Not even counting how many hit 145ks as every team has atleast 1 indian bowler capable of 145ks except CSK.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Saini 152
Yadav 151
Prasidh Bumrah and Aaron 150ks
Shami 148ks

Mavi and Nagarkoti have both hit 149ks are injured at the moment.

Not even counting how many hit 145ks as every team has atleast 1 indian bowler capable of 145ks except CSK.
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CSK have developed allergy of pace. Dhoni anyways always preferred slower bowlers or preferred his bowlers to bowl slow.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Saini 152
Yadav 151
Prasidh Bumrah and Aaron 150ks
Shami 148ks

Mavi and Nagarkoti have both hit 149ks are injured at the moment.

Not even counting how many hit 145ks as every team has atleast 1 indian bowler capable of 145ks except CSK.
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Bumrah is exceptional and deserves respect. He is genuine quick across all the format.
In term of speed in t20s there is not much difference between Pakistani and indian bowler .
Saini =husnain though one is 26 other is 18 only
Wahab raiz=Aaron
Umesh yadav=haris rauf
Shami=hasan ali
Nasim shah is injured who is quicker than husnain so you can expect him to be in 150s.
 
saeed5646 said:
Bumrah is exceptional and deserves respect. He is genuine quick across all the format.
In term of speed in t20s there is not much difference between Pakistani and indian bowler .
Saini =husnain though one is 26 other is 18 only
Wahab raiz=Aaron
Umesh yadav=haris rauf
Shami=hasan ali
Nasim shah is injured who is quicker than husnain so you can expect him to be in 150s.
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Shami=Hasan Ali? Lol. Shami bowls 90mph across all formats. What pace was Hasan Ali bowling in tests? Why was the Pakistan captain complaining about the pace of his bowlers?Even Hardik Pandya bowls faster than Hasan Ali.

Has Rauf ever hit 150ks? Umesh has hit 150ks in international cricket and bowls in excess of 90mph in tests.

Has Nasim Shah been clocked? At what speeds? Both Mavi and Nagarkoti have been clocked at 149ks and are 19yrs.

Prasidh Krishna has clocked 150ks and is 23.

Then there is Avesh Khan who has clocked 148-149ks.

Right now there is a queue of genuine 90mph plus bowlers in India.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Shami=Hasan Ali? Lol. Shami bowls 90mph across all formats. What pace was Hasan Ali bowling in tests? Why was the Pakistan captain complaining about the pace of his bowlers?Even Hardik Pandya bowls faster than Hasan Ali.
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so typical of you .i ma talking about t20 format the thread which we are talking about .don,t divert the topic

cricketjoshila said:
Has Rauf ever hit 150ks? Umesh has hit 150ks in international cricket and bowls in excess of 90mph in tests.

Has Nasim Shah been clocked? At what speeds? Both Mavi and Nagarkoti have been clocked at 149ks and are 19yrs.

Prasidh Krishna has clocked 150ks and is 23.

Then there is Avesh Khan who has clocked 148-149ks.

Right now there is a queue of genuine 90mph plus bowlers in India.
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read gain .

In term of speed in t20s there is not much difference between Pakistani and indian bowler .
Saini =husnain though one is 26 other is 18 only
Wahab raiz=Aaron
Umesh yadav=haris rauf
Shami=hasan ali
Nasim shah is injured who is quicker than husnain so you can expect him to be in 150s.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Shami=Hasan Ali? Lol. Shami bowls 90mph across all formats. What pace was Hasan Ali bowling in tests? Why was the Pakistan captain complaining about the pace of his bowlers?Even Hardik Pandya bowls faster than Hasan Ali.

Has Rauf ever hit 150ks? Umesh has hit 150ks in international cricket and bowls in excess of 90mph in tests.

Has Nasim Shah been clocked? At what speeds? Both Mavi and Nagarkoti have been clocked at 149ks and are 19yrs.

Prasidh Krishna has clocked 150ks and is 23.

Then there is Avesh Khan who has clocked 148-149ks.

Right now there is a queue of genuine 90mph plus bowlers in India.
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Nasim shah is yet to play competitive cricket but Muddasar nazar who is coach at NCA have already predicted nasim is quicker than husnain who recently clocked 150 in psl.why are you suspicious about nasim did we have not produce express bowler in past? .
 
cricketjoshila said:
Shami=Hasan Ali? Lol. Shami bowls 90mph across all formats. What pace was Hasan Ali bowling in tests? Why was the Pakistan captain complaining about the pace of his bowlers?Even Hardik Pandya bowls faster than Hasan Ali.

Has Rauf ever hit 150ks? Umesh has hit 150ks in international cricket and bowls in excess of 90mph in tests.

Has Nasim Shah been clocked? At what speeds? Both Mavi and Nagarkoti have been clocked at 149ks and are 19yrs.

Prasidh Krishna has clocked 150ks and is 23.

Then there is Avesh Khan who has clocked 148-149ks.

Right now there is a queue of genuine 90mph plus bowlers in India.
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neither haris have played test format nor i hope he should be some one like him .he have clocked 149 kph 4 times .but then again 150 too far i think .why not compare umesh with wahab raiz .does not that make sense as both have played test while you already down playing haris who is yet to play test ?

Right now there are abundance of 90 mph bowler for pakistan in t20s it is difficult to pick from them
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Shami=Hasan Ali? Lol. Shami bowls 90mph across all formats. What pace was Hasan Ali bowling in tests? Why was the Pakistan captain complaining about the pace of his bowlers?Even Hardik Pandya bowls faster than Hasan Ali.

Has Rauf ever hit 150ks? Umesh has hit 150ks in international cricket and bowls in excess of 90mph in tests.

Has Nasim Shah been clocked? At what speeds? Both Mavi and Nagarkoti have been clocked at 149ks and are 19yrs.

Prasidh Krishna has clocked 150ks and is 23.

Then there is Avesh Khan who has clocked 148-149ks.

Right now there is a queue of genuine 90mph plus bowlers in India.
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No need to compare them anyway we all know the difference between Pakistani and Indian bowlers. I reckon only Shami and Bumrah will be on the scene 4-5 years from now. However for Pakistan Hasan,Shaheen,Hasnain,Rauf,Naseem will walk into any side in a few years.
 
Let Umesh Yadav first make a way in the Indian XI and then compare him with Pakistani bowlers.

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And can Shami ever replicate Hasan Ali’s performance in England on the most batting-friendly pitches?
 
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iPakistani said:
No need to compare them anyway we all know the difference between Pakistani and Indian bowlers. I reckon only Shami and Bumrah will be on the scene 4-5 years from now. However for Pakistan Hasan,Shaheen,Hasnain,Rauf,Naseem will walk into any side in a few years.
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Shami is getting old. We may lose him in near future. But he is beast inside out and keeps returning better every time!
 
saeed5646 said:
Surely you are not talking about next coming of wasim akram khaleel ahmed who was trundling 130 in nz recently that too in t20s
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No. I am talking about Mohit, Sran, Shardul, Salil Ankola, Paras Mahambrey, Harvinder Singh, Kuruvilla, David Johnson, Gony, Sudeep Tyagi, Mithun and Mohanty. :inti
 
saeed5646 said:
so typical of you .i ma talking about t20 format the thread which we are talking about .don,t divert the topic


read gain .

In term of speed in t20s there is not much difference between Pakistani and indian bowler .
Saini =husnain though one is 26 other is 18 only
Wahab raiz=Aaron
Umesh yadav=haris rauf
Shami=hasan ali
Nasim shah is injured who is quicker than husnain so you can expect him to be in 150s.
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wahab Riaz is faster than everybody he is fastest in subcontinent without shadow of doubt.He was bowling 150ks consistently in psl.Even at 35 he is consistently bowling 150ks.No Indian can reach to him in terms of pace.
 
Even in previous world cup wahab was fastest he bowled 155ks.He is truly an express bowler not these Indian trundlers.
 
Indians are lying only navdeep saini seems to hit 150 not that consistently but better than other trundlers.Varun Aaron has hit 150 once and Umesh too only once and parasidh Krishna is another one who hit 150 not exactly 150.Indians are liars in general.so true.
 
I think it is probably better to discuss bowling speeds at international level. I highly doubt the domestic speed guns are accurate enough. I chuckle everytime i see our friends across the border claiming they have abundant fast bowlers when none of them actually make it through to their eleven (barring Bumrah and don’t give me rubbish about how kumar, shami and pandya are 150+ ). However for Pakistan, we have fast bowlers who are thrown at the deep end and they are capable of bowling real quick. I reckon the real battle of pace would be the world cup and whichever team out of Pakistan and India has bowlers who bowl consistently quick and make more impact should be the winners of this debate.
 
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What Indian bowlers have is raw pace.

Pakistani bowlers might be slightly slower but skill wise they are ahead as they can move it.
 
NoBallZombie said:
I think it is probably better to discuss bowling speeds at international level. I highly doubt the domestic speed guns are accurate enough. I chuckle everytime i see our friends across the border claiming they have abundant fast bowlers when none of them actually make it through to their eleven (barring Bumrah and don’t give me rubbish about how kumar, shami and pandya are 150+ ). However for Pakistan, we have fast bowlers who are thrown at the deep end and they are capable of bowling real quick. I reckon the real battle of pace would be the world cup and whichever team out of Pakistan and India has bowlers who bowl consistently quick and make more impact should be the winners of this debate.
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Your post is spot on and will be hard to digest for some people. Even I am tired of reading how we have better fast bowlers than Pakistan but in reality none of them play for India. Look at Pakistan for example Shaheen and Hasnain are already in the team whereas Nagarkotti and Mavi are nowhere to be seen. And I don't think they are going to get a chance in the near future even when they are fit to play.

Chances of Mohit Sharma, Shardul Thankur and Barinder Sran coming back to Indian team are more than the likes of Mavi and Nagarkotti debuting for India. We don't have a culture of selecting young phaast bowlers for our team. :inti
 
NoBallZombie said:
I think it is probably better to discuss bowling speeds at international level. I highly doubt the domestic speed guns are accurate enough. I chuckle everytime i see our friends across the border claiming they have abundant fast bowlers when none of them actually make it through to their eleven (barring Bumrah and don’t give me rubbish about how kumar, shami and pandya are 150+ ). However for Pakistan, we have fast bowlers who are thrown at the deep end and they are capable of bowling real quick. I reckon the real battle of pace would be the world cup and whichever team out of Pakistan and India has bowlers who bowl consistently quick and make more impact should be the winners of this debate.
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This particular thread is purely comparing speeds between IPL and PSL. In this regard, it is clear that Indian bowlers have bowled faster than Pakistani ones. As far as this thread is concerned, these are facts.

As for whether the Indian pace bowlers will make the same impact at international level as Pakistani ones, is up for debate. Bumrah has out bowled all bowler from either side, and is clearly the best bowler between the 2 countries right now.

The second best is up for debate, as SSA has been great in one form but not the others, whereas Hasnain, has only played 3 international matches and has done nothing of any note. So, between the 145 + (and touching 150k), Bumrah is the best bowler, and SSA 2nd best (though you could argue Shami too have been better than SSA). So, as of now, the Indian bowlers win this debate too, though this could change if SSA and Hasnain become success and the Saini, Prasidh Krishna do nothing of any note in the long run.
 
Sidilicious said:
This particular thread is purely comparing speeds between IPL and PSL. In this regard, it is clear that Indian bowlers have bowled faster than Pakistani ones. As far as this thread is concerned, these are facts.

As for whether the Indian pace bowlers will make the same impact at international level as Pakistani ones, is up for debate. Bumrah has out bowled all bowler from either side, and is clearly the best bowler between the 2 countries right now.

The second best is up for debate, as SSA has been great in one form but not the others, whereas Hasnain, has only played 3 international matches and has done nothing of any note. So, between the 145 + (and touching 150k), Bumrah is the best bowler, and SSA 2nd best (though you could argue Shami too have been better than SSA). So, as of now, the Indian bowlers win this debate too, though this could change if SSA and Hasnain become success and the Saini, Prasidh Krishna do nothing of any note in the long run.
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See you are talking about Saini and Krishna. Where are they? Are they selected for the World Cup? And this is why his post is right. They may be fast and furious but they don't get selected to play for India. We are still going to see likes of Shardul Thakur and spray guns like Umesh Yadav in the team. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
See you are talking about Saini and Krishna. Where are they? Are they selected for the World Cup? And this is why his post is right. They may be fast and furious but they don't get selected to play for India. We are still going to see likes of Shardul Thakur and spray guns like Umesh Yadav in the team. :inti
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But this thread is about the bowling speeds in IPL and PSL.

If this thread was about which of the faster bowlers are better at international cricket, then you would have a point. But even on that, Hasnain has done nothing of note so far. So, its really between Bumrah and SSA.
 
NoBallZombie said:
I think it is probably better to discuss bowling speeds at international level. I highly doubt the domestic speed guns are accurate enough. I chuckle everytime i see our friends across the border claiming they have abundant fast bowlers when none of them actually make it through to their eleven (barring Bumrah and don’t give me rubbish about how kumar, shami and pandya are 150+ ). However for Pakistan, we have fast bowlers who are thrown at the deep end and they are capable of bowling real quick. I reckon the real battle of pace would be the world cup and whichever team out of Pakistan and India has bowlers who bowl consistently quick and make more impact should be the winners of this debate.
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Pakistan is struggling with their fast bowling. The Pakistan captain complained about the lack of speed of the pakistani test bowlers in SA.

Same is not the case with India. Shami and Bumrah both clock 90MPH in tests and have performed very well. There is place for only one more fast bowler in the 11 and that is contested between Bhuvi and Ishant in tests abroad. When India plays in India only two fast bowlers will play.

Indian team is very settled except one or two batting slots. And that reflects in the rankings of the teams.

IPL is worlds premier T20 tournament and not gully mohalla cricket, they use some of the best management companies to broadcast the league, so saying speed guns are not accurate without any proof means nothing except sour grapes on your part.
 
JattMaula said:
Joshila bhai. This thread is really feeling abandoned by its creators isn't it?
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Jatt bhai see how our pakistani friends have come running to this thread suddenly and now speed guns are wrong or only international cricket matters or past indian bowlers were slower etc etc etc. Are you happy now?
 
Sidilicious said:
But this thread is about the bowling speeds in IPL and PSL.

If this thread was about which of the faster bowlers are better at international cricket, then you would have a point. But even on that, Hasnain has done nothing of note so far. So, its really between Bumrah and SSA.
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What has SSA done to be compared to Bumrah? He is just starting his career.
 
Sidilicious said:
This particular thread is purely comparing speeds between IPL and PSL. In this regard, it is clear that Indian bowlers have bowled faster than Pakistani ones. As far as this thread is concerned, these are facts.

As for whether the Indian pace bowlers will make the same impact at international level as Pakistani ones, is up for debate. Bumrah has out bowled all bowler from either side, and is clearly the best bowler between the 2 countries right now.

The second best is up for debate, as SSA has been great in one form but not the others, whereas Hasnain, has only played 3 international matches and has done nothing of any note. So, between the 145 + (and touching 150k), Bumrah is the best bowler, and SSA 2nd best (though you could argue Shami too have been better than SSA). So, as of now, the Indian bowlers win this debate too, though this could change if SSA and Hasnain become success and the Saini, Prasidh Krishna do nothing of any note in the long run.
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Point is Saini or Krishna or Nagarkoti or Mavi or anyone else has to better than Bumrah or Shami to replace them. Right now there is no fast bowler in Asia who can replace them across 3 formats.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Jatt bhai see how our pakistani friends have come running to this thread suddenly and now speed guns are wrong or only international cricket matters or past indian bowlers were slower etc etc etc. Are you happy now?
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Fun isn't something one considers when balancing the thread. But this... does put a smile on my face.


Omg.. I'm a bad guy now :(
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
See you are talking about Saini and Krishna. Where are they? Are they selected for the World Cup? And this is why his post is right. They may be fast and furious but they don't get selected to play for India. We are still going to see likes of Shardul Thakur and spray guns like Umesh Yadav in the team. :inti
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This is because there are some dumb people in india who care more about EXPERIENCE than talent.
They will give 2 or 3 matches to new players and then will drop them in place of some ttfs.
Just like the 33 year old hack who has been selected in place of a talented youngster who milked starc,hazelwood,cummins in australia.
You know,some people do not have the eye to recognise talent,they should stick to gilly danda.:inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
What has SSA done to be compared to Bumrah? He is just starting his career.
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As if bumrah was any good at start of international career😂Shaheen have dream start to his career. Shaheen is doing fantastic that too in so early in career .Stop lying and comparing apple with orange
 
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saeed5646 said:
As if bumrah was any good at start of international career��Shaheen have dream start to his career. Shaheen is doing fantastic that too in so early in career .Stop lying and comparing apple with orange
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He might be telling SSA is not second best fast bowler from Asia, because he has just started his career.
 
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saeed5646 said:
As if bumrah was any good at start of international career😂Shaheen have dream start to his career. Shaheen is doing fantastic that too in so early in career .Stop lying and comparing apple with orange
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Dream start? How exactly?

Thing is that SSA doesnt deserve a comparision with Bumrah at this point. No one in Asia does.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Dream start? How exactly?

Thing is that SSA doesnt deserve a comparision with Bumrah at this point. No one in Asia does.
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thing is you need to follow more about pakistan cricket if want to know about performances of SSA

ofcourse shaheen have high ceiling but no body knows what future holds .he might or might not surpass bumrah .
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
This is because there are some dumb people in india who care more about EXPERIENCE than talent.
They will give 2 or 3 matches to new players and then will drop them in place of some ttfs.
Just like the 33 year old hack who has been selected in place of a talented youngster who milked starc,hazelwood,cummins in australia.
You know,some people do not have the eye to recognise talent,they should stick to gilly danda.:inti
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Even playing gilli danda need some skills but how would you know that? You are just an online expert who has never played any outdoor games in his life.
These same dumb people have selected your new superishtaar Pandya also. So you do have a point. :inti
 
saeed5646 said:
thing is you need to follow more about pakistan cricket if want to know about performances of SSA

ofcourse shaheen have high ceiling but no body knows what future holds .he might or might not surpass bumrah .
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And these people claim to have an eye for talent. :facepalm:
 
Lol why do people care so much about this ? There is no prize for being the fastest bowler :)). Let's see how they perform at international level with all this pace they have.
 
saeed5646 said:
thing is you need to follow more about pakistan cricket if want to know about performances of SSA

ofcourse shaheen have high ceiling but no body knows what future holds .he might or might not surpass bumrah .
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How did you decide that Shaheen has a high ceiling?

He is a 19yr old promising fast bowler. Thats it.
 
PSL quickie gets a WC spot. Where is the IPL quick? We’ve heard of Indian bowlers hitting 150kph but no one has cut it in international cricket
 
cricketjoshila said:
How did you decide that Shaheen has a high ceiling?

He is a 19yr old promising fast bowler. Thats it.
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who are you to decide shaheen have not high ceiling?Ex non Pakistani cricketers are saying same thing i guess they know better than you and me

I have not said he is 25 year old .i know his age
 
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