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Spending of millions on stadiums renovation and the probable shifting of ICC Champions Trophy 2025 to South Africa - How bad would it be for PCB?

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PCB and its administration have been working day and night to ensure the timely renovation of the stadiums ahead of the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 and then there is toothless ICC and stubborn BCCI who are reluctant to organize the entire upcoming Champions Trophy event in Pakistan so how badly would it affect the finances of Pakistan? Also provided the fickle minded nature of ICC under the overwhelming influence of BCCI they may now back down from the release of fund grants promised earlier.
 
If PCB is going to get a good cut of revenues from CT for the hosting rights moved away, this might work in the favor. Who wouldn’t prefer watching a world tournament in SA over Pakistan to be honest. Might be a blockbuster for them in terms of revenue otherwise giving every team presidential security and blocking traffic etc might be counterproductive as they have only 1-2 urban centers.
 
It would be disrespectful for PCB.

If it gets moved to South Africa, Pakistan should refuse to play.
 
I bet Pakistan will turn up to that India V Pakistan game in Johannesburg. Wait and watch.
 
It's a double edged sword. On one hand I was looking forward to travelling back to pakistan and meeting my family, but that wasn't the only reason.

I did want to attend atleast a few games In Lahore. So now it's more or less just a hello hi to family trip.

On the other hand, SA is a better venue then pakistan 100%. Pakistani stadiums are decades behind other venues atm. Even with all the renovations, I don't see any difference.
 
mominsaigol said:
On the other hand, SA is a better venue then pakistan 100%. Pakistani stadiums are decades behind other venues atm. Even with all the renovations, I don't see any difference.
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South African venues are better. But, it is about decency and respect.

Tournament was awarded to Pakistan. 7 teams are okay to play in Pakistan. Why shift it to South Africa for 1 team (India)?
 
sweep_shot said:
South African venues are better. But, it is about decency and respect.

Tournament was awarded to Pakistan. 7 teams are okay to play in Pakistan. Why shift it to South Africa for 1 team (India)?
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I want the tournament to be hosted in pakistan. I'm literally travelling to Pakistan in February just to watch a few games lol.

But India won't travel and Sri lanka won't replace India.

I'm hoping icc show some guts but they won't.
 
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mominsaigol said:
I want the tournament to be hosted in pakistan. I'm literally travelling to Pakistan in February just to watch a few games lol.

But India won't travel and Sri lanka won't replace India.

I'm hoping icc show some guts but they won't.
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You know who else won't show some gut? The PCB.

Pakistan will feature in the customary India v Pak fixture at Jo'burg - just wait and watch.
 
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Varun said:
You know who else won't show some guts? The PCB.

Pakistan will feature in the customary India v Pak fixture at Jo'burg - just wait and watch.
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I'm aware.

God, I wish I had some family living in sa 🤣🤣. I would have used it as an excuse to travel their.

Would have just told my family in pakistan, Sorry auntie but My south African auntie needs me 🫠.
 
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mominsaigol said:
It's a double edged sword. On one hand I was looking forward to travelling back to pakistan and meeting my family, but that wasn't the only reason.

I did want to attend atleast a few games In Lahore. So now it's more or less just a hello hi to family trip.

On the other hand, SA is a better venue then pakistan 100%. Pakistani stadiums are decades behind other venues atm. Even with all the renovations, I don't see any difference.
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Momin If you go pakistan let me know, I will be traveling for the champions trophy, will be watching mainly in lahore. Or maybe a game or 2 in pindi
 
Varun said:
So in hindsight the BCCICC has done Pakistan fans a favour by getting the PCB to renovate stadiums, which wouldn't have happened if the tournament was announced to be hosted in South Africa to begin with. :junaid
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Yes perhaps indirectly.

These stadiums were a complete shambles.
 
Will Pakistan tour South Africa or would it be Sri Lanka joining as wild card entry. Interesting times ahead.

But one thing is for sure, South Africa is generally a great venue for ICC tournaments. Really excited now for this.
 
How shameless are Indian posters here chest thumping on south Africa as potential hosts

No shame at all they have
 
There’s a twist to this I think.

PCB will be relieved if the tournament is shifted away. The stadiums were NEVER going to be ready in such a short period of time.

Now, PCB will get all the money and will have no burden of completing the renovations on time - get the money, do things at your own pace will be the game forward.

Besides, hosting so many teams would have required a lot of administrative wrangling. Heavy duty.
 
PCB will receive $65mn from the ICC. That money is being used to renovate stadiums. PCB will receive the full amount as long as they want to remain hostsm
 
Stadiums needed to be renovated. They should push ahead and build a 60k seater stadium in Islamabad.

They should have left out Rawalpindi, no idea why they are working on it too.
 
No way it takes 70 million to renovate stadiums in Pak. We know where the money goes. Happens in India too but the more Pak govt says how much they spent it can lead to financial investigation lol. In India opposition parties would be all over these things. Only in Pak everyone is pointing out this and blaming India.

When you know India will not come or there is a 90% of chance that happening you displayed willful blindness and irresponsible behavior with this expenditure.

However it’s more fun to bash India so all good.
 
The stadium “renovations” aren’t quite what you might think.

Lahore is being genuinely renovated and will be a top class stadium once complete.

Pindi is basically getting some proper seating and Karachi a new pavilion.

My sense is the speed of work in Karachi is much slower than in Lahore, reading between the lines this suggests a hybrid tournament with no games being played in Karachi.
 
Pakistan started that renovation stuff for the Champions Trophy, which was also the need of time. The money will not be considered wasted. Even though there will be some loses but it should not be that bad.

IF PCB is not hosting in Pakistan, it will be bad.
 
Pakistan should never accept the proposal for RSA. Under no circumstances, any person or organisation, who has self respect will agree to that term.

From moral point of view or even from ethical point of view, what ICC has done to PCB will be very wrong in terms of core principles..

PCB shouldn't even think about participating in CT if even 1 match is hold outside Pakistan. It's not a matter of money anymore rather it's about national pride and dignity which ICC will shatter to the ground if they move the tournament away from Pakistan. As a sign of protest, Pakistan should not participate if that happens.
 
How did SA become an alternate venue? That doesn’t make sense , how are they pitching another continent for the tournament?
 
Pakistan were badly in need of renovations regardless of the tournament.

If they do get a substantial sum for giving up the hosting rights, it should be more than enough to pay for the renovations and extra $$$ for PCB to invest infrastructure. Obviously it would be ideal if Pakistan remains the host and India visit but that is never going to happen.

All the security costs PCB would have had to incur to host the tournament would have been quite massive anyways. Financially, it works out well. And when time comes to go to India for WC, PCB should refuse like India and only accept the hybrid model.
 
I would go further and withdraw our ICC membership if this nonsense occurs..

Need strong leadership from Pakistan Govt right now..
 
The PCB isn't getting the point and acting emotionally. 7 out of the 8 teams will be playing their games in Pakistan. Let them play- let the atmosphere be lit.

India playing their games in the UAE only makes them look stupid, especially with the likes of Australia and England chilling in Pakistan. That's the bigger picture- that's where you need to be shrewd and smart. And not become an emotional idiot. Go all out via advertisements that the real action is happening in Pakistan while the leftover action is happening in UAE.

Let it be and get the co-host tag of an ICC event. That is a big deal.
 
If tournament is shifted out I would recommend Pakistan boycott India Pakistan match in it and at all levels in any country/tournament till India agrees to tour Pakistan and resumes cricketing ties. That would be a happy medium vs boycotting entire tournament.
 
Energy said:
The PCB isn't getting the point and acting emotionally. 7 out of the 8 teams will be playing their games in Pakistan. Let them play- let the atmosphere be lit.

India playing their games in the UAE only makes them look stupid, especially with the likes of Australia and England chilling in Pakistan. That's the bigger picture- that's where you need to be shrewd and smart. And not become an emotional idiot. Go all out via advertisements that the real action is happening in Pakistan while the leftover action is happening in UAE.

Let it be and get the co-host tag of an ICC event. That is a big deal.
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You are right but they are demanding to play knockout games in Dubai and final too

This is not acceptable at all
 
msb314 said:
I would go further and withdraw our ICC membership if this nonsense occurs..

Need strong leadership from Pakistan Govt right now..
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I think all major nations should withdraw from ICC and form a new board.

India can play with themselves I guess (India A, India B, India C etc.).
 
mon858 said:
If tournament is shifted out I would recommend Pakistan boycott India Pakistan match in it and at all levels in any country/tournament till India agrees to tour Pakistan and resumes cricketing ties. That would be a happy medium vs boycotting entire tournament.
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Nah you should boycott India for a few more years after they agree to resume ties anyway. After all, it's what they have done to you all this while.

All fantasy though. We all know what will happen.
 
sweep_shot said:
I think all major nations should withdraw from ICC and form a new board.

India can play with themselves I guess (India A, India B, India C etc.).
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Yes start with Pakistan first then Bangladesh can later joined them .

LOL some people's are really living in own delusion world .

If there will be voting for Pakistan to host champions trophy without india ,only vote Pakistan will get it own vote . that's it.

Your Muslim country Bangladesh will not even vote for pakistan .

Ye to status h cricketing world m or chale h new ICC banane.
:kp
 
If the PCB refuses the hybrid model for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025, could it really be moved to South Africa? Seriously???? How is this fair to Pakistan???
 
Energy said:
The PCB isn't getting the point and acting emotionally. 7 out of the 8 teams will be playing their games in Pakistan. Let them play- let the atmosphere be lit.

India playing their games in the UAE only makes them look stupid, especially with the likes of Australia and England chilling in Pakistan. That's the bigger picture- that's where you need to be shrewd and smart. And not become an emotional idiot. Go all out via advertisements that the real action is happening in Pakistan while the leftover action is happening in UAE.

Let it be and get the co-host tag of an ICC event. That is a big deal.
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I like this reply.
 
Devadwal said:
Yes start with Pakistan first then Bangladesh can later joined them .

LOL some people's are really living in own delusion world .

If there will be voting for Pakistan to host champions trophy without india ,only vote Pakistan will get it own vote . that's it.

Your Muslim country Bangladesh will not even vote for pakistan .

Ye to status h cricketing world m or chale h new ICC banane.
:kp
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You need to give your head a wobble all neutral fans are vouching for champions trophy to be held in Pakistan, check twitter and other social media its only india and and their chamchay Afghanistan.
 
Devadwal said:
Yes start with Pakistan first then Bangladesh can later joined them .

LOL some people's are really living in own delusion world .

If there will be voting for Pakistan to host champions trophy without india ,only vote Pakistan will get it own vote . that's it.

Your Muslim country Bangladesh will not even vote for pakistan .

Ye to status h cricketing world m or chale h new ICC banane.
:kp
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Everyone is coming to Pakistan

Except one clown board
 
emranabbas said:
You need to give your head a wobble all neutral fans are vouching for champions trophy to be held in Pakistan, check twitter and other social media its only india and and their chamchay Afghanistan.
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Yes fans are going to vote ? :dw

England cricket board already said there is no champion trophy without india but yea lets take delusion fans opinion more than cricket board.
 
Devadwal said:
Yes fans are going to vote ? :dw

England cricket board already said there is no champion trophy without india but yea lets take delusion fans opinion more than cricket board.
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Don't throw in the air give us a non indian source
 
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FearlessRoar said:
If the PCB refuses the hybrid model for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025, could it really be moved to South Africa? Seriously???? How is this fair to Pakistan???
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We have no official news for this. No word of hybrid has been used by ICC as well. So lets wait for official statements before reacting
 
Devadwal said:
www.google.com

Champions Trophy without India not an option, say ECB chiefs

There are "lots of contingencies available" in the event that India do not travel to Pakistan for the tournament but, to "protect broadcast rights", replacing India in the line-up is not one of them
www.google.com www.google.com

:shh
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"If you play the Champions Trophy without India, or Pakistan, the broadcast rights aren't there, and we need to protect them," he said."

Interesting comments from the ECB chief.
 
emranabbas said:
Don't throw in the air give us a non indian source
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Cricket is primarily covered in subcontinent. Pretty much Indian sponsors, politicians and executives have their prints all over international cricket so I would trust Indian news sources when it comes to cricket than any other leave alone Pakistan.

Case in point- Indian media was spot on about Asia Cup hybrid, Pak traveling to India for WC 2023 and so many other cricket related news.

Are you waiting for cricinfo? Because last time I checked Indians were running that too and most foreign cricket correspondents are also of Indian origin like Bharat Sundaresan who reports Australian cricket.

I feel you are waiting for news that suits you than debating on practicality.
 
Local.Dada said:
Cricket is primarily covered in subcontinent. Pretty much Indian sponsors, politicians and executives have their prints all over international cricket so I would trust Indian news sources when it comes to cricket than any other leave alone Pakistan.

Case in point- Indian media was spot on about Asia Cup hybrid, Pak traveling to India for WC 2023 and so many other cricket related news.

Are you waiting for cricinfo? Because last time I checked Indians were running that too and most foreign cricket correspondents are also of Indian origin like Bharat Sundaresan who reports Australian cricket.

I feel you are waiting for news that suits you than debating on practicality.
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What indian news is reporting is what they are hoping for there is no official statement from the ICC untill then 🤫
 
Xoib said:
Play hybrid swap India with Australia in our group and carry on with the show
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Due to know PCB gets 34m revenue every years while doing nothing why ?

Its because they play vs india in ICC event's so ICC get more revenue .

If Pakistan say we will not play india in ICC event's than those 34m revenue decrease to around 20m.

This is the point most of delusion Pakistan fans and journalists are missing ,who are non stop shouting theses days .

If PCB pullout from CT they will not get any revenue from ICC as simple as that.

PCB is surviving only because ICC revenues they gets every year .

PSL is not profitable even after 9 editions.

So think twice before any decision .

They are only thinking emotional rather than logical .
 
FearlessRoar said:
I believe it was BCCI's propaganda, part of their media war.
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I said earlier in another thread and saying again , PCB chief invited some Pakistan journalists at Lahore after India refused to send Indian team

Naqvi told them to build a narrative that PCB will pullout from Champions trophy if ICC snatch the hosting rights or Play champion trophy outside Pakistan. This is part of media war and all these threats from PCB is empty and totally bluff .

Now i can give hint about a journalist as openly naming is not right things. one is " A man with big mustache"

Theses journalists are seen on every media channels in pakistan everydays from past dew days .
 
As per reports:

The ICC Champions Trophy 2025 is facing uncertainty as the BCCI has informed the ICC that it will not travel to Pakistan due to a lack of clearance from the Indian government. The PCB, which is the designated host, insists on holding the tournament entirely in Pakistan and will not accept a hybrid model like the recent Asia Cup, where India played its matches in Sri Lanka.

This hardline stance from the PCB could lead to potential sanctions from the ICC if the tournament is affected, and if the PCB withdraws, it risks losing significant funding and host fees, estimated at around USD 65 million.

The PCB has recently upgraded venues in Karachi, Rawalpindi, and Lahore for the event and assures that security is not an issue, citing successful recent tours by England and New Zealand. The ICC has not yet responded to the PCB and is currently discussing the schedule with participating teams, while plans for a launch event in Lahore have been postponed.
 
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