[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

I think there may be some truth to the rumour. BCCI will have to rightfully compensate the ICC for the additional costs involved in a hybrid tournament.

Here we go again. You have a habit of jumping the gun.

Additional 5mn USD has already been sanctioned by ICC.
 
To think, all this complication would be avoided if India just played the game in the original scheduled venue.
Or the ICC just replaced India with SL and moved on.

Something the ICC can still do. But refuses to. Right now the complications are caused by the ICC.
 
Or the ICC just replaced India with SL and moved on.

Something the ICC can still do. But refuses to. Right now the complications are caused by the ICC.
Or maybe the fact india doesn't want to play in Pakistan because they will then have to play test series against them
And the pak-india rivalry will encapsulate the imagation of India fans and surpass the precocious ipl
 
Or maybe the fact india doesn't want to play in Pakistan because they will then have to play test series against them
And the pak-india rivalry will encapsulate the imagation of India fans and surpass the precocious ipl
Whatever the case is with India, the ICC can just replace them with SL and solve the whole issue very very quickly. Also, that decision will result in whole CT being played in Pakistan.

Very quick resolution right with the ICC.
 
Pakistan has to bow down. Its just a matter of time. Those who are dreaming about boycotting and “eent ka jawab eent se” nonsense do not have any idea how the world runs. PCB wont be able to sustain their expenses if ICC pull off their share of one year.
Najam and ramiz did well in their tenure while dealing with India. But this naqvi is a servant of general asim will make PCB go nuts with his mind boggling decisions.
 
According to some reports Pakistan has agree to Play champion trophy in hybrid model . official announcement before 22 November.

After all the drama but they are back to the reality.
:kp
 
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Whatever the case is with India, the ICC can just replace them with SL and solve the whole issue very very quickly. Also, that decision will result in whole CT being played in Pakistan.

Very quick resolution right with the ICC.
There's more changes of pigs flying with their feet then their is of icc holding a tournament without the presence of Indian players
 
Here we go again. You have a habit of jumping the gun.

Additional 5mn USD has already been sanctioned by ICC.
Sure yeah but the additional cost is being incurred only because of India so it wouldn't be a big deal if India offered to reimburse. Not sure if the report has any merit anyway.
 
1. India will play against Pakistan only in ICC event in non Pakistani soil. That was the actual condition.
2. Pakistan can take whatever stance but BCCI isn't oblige to listen. It will go through arbitration mediated by ICC. Good luck with that. PCB can move to court of course but we also know the MoU saga lol.
No.

1) The indian condition has been playing Pakistan in ICC events.

2) If the Pakistan Govt take a hard line stance of no matches against india its deadlock and game over for cricket whether indians except that or not. That is reality.

3) ICC is on the indian payroll. you can hardly call it an arbitration carrying out their masters orders.
 
Well, tell that to PCB sir! Why try involve political hot potatoes in sports?
There is a reason trusting PCB is foolish. In the same breathe they are not able to adhere to what they are harping around all over. Be more stubborn and you get more stubborn response back.
What are you waffling on about.

The CT is being held in Pakistan and india refused to travel and has created chaos for all participants due to "security" concerns of the indian govt.

Who started the political narrative???.
 
What are you waffling on about.

The CT is being held in Pakistan and india refused to travel and has created chaos for all participants due to "security" concerns of the indian govt.

Who started the political narrative???.
Indian govt. has refused permission and that has been the case for 15 years. If you are waking up now, that's a different case.
Please chill on the high imaginary moral pedestal somehow Pakistani posters are sitting on about "never involving politics in sports". Like every nation Pakistan has employed politics in sports whenever and wherever it can.
The only thing that is clear is the utter short memories on how BCCI and India had stood by Pakistan as an Asian Bloc till PCB went on a rampage of suing BCCI for things out of their control.

I don't get where the security thing is being paraded around in the entire Pakistani media spectrum. The keyword is govt. permission has been denied. Random strawmanning to the extreme.
 
Indian govt. has refused permission and that has been the case for 15 years. If you are waking up now, that's a different case.
Please chill on the high imaginary moral pedestal somehow Pakistani posters are sitting on about "never involving politics in sports". Like every nation Pakistan has employed politics in sports whenever and wherever it can.
The only thing that is clear is the utter short memories on how BCCI and India had stood by Pakistan as an Asian Bloc till PCB went on a rampage of suing BCCI for things out of their control.

I don't get where the security thing is being paraded around in the entire Pakistani media spectrum. The keyword is govt. permission has been denied. Random strawmanning to the extreme.
You must be in a trance for 15 years.

What permission have they refused for 15 years???

Pakistan hasn't hosted a tournament in the last few decades and both sides have played ICC events.

Saying the indian board stood by the PCB as an asian block was pre indian financial clout and it was vice versa as well.

Since then its all been about undermining and isolating Pakistan cricket which has failed miserably.

World cricket understands the importance of Pakistan cricket within the context of the global game.

Your doing a great job at straw manning yourself.

An indian friend of mine has said he has seen vikrant gupta say this is the grounds that india is / will use in their excuse making to the ICC.

I'm sure he s not part of the Pakistani media.
 
You must be in a trance for 15 years.

What permission have they refused for 15 years???

Pakistan hasn't hosted a tournament in the last few decades and both sides have played ICC events.

Saying the indian board stood by the PCB as an asian block was pre indian financial clout and it was vice versa as well.

Since then its all been about undermining and isolating Pakistan cricket which has failed miserably.

World cricket understands the importance of Pakistan cricket within the context of the global game.

Your doing a great job at straw manning yourself.

An indian friend of mine has said he has seen vikrant gupta say this is the grounds that india is / will use in their excuse making to the ICC.

I'm sure he s not part of the Pakistani media.
Obviously you are not aware that since the last 15 years Indian stance has been the same, not to travel to Pakistan and obviously no bilateral with Pakistan. Why is is such a shock to your ilk that India is not travelling to Pakistan? The Indian posters here have been saying the same for a ling time bow while the delusional ones claimed how India will have to travel and have no other option.
 
Obviously you are not aware that since the last 15 years Indian stance has been the same, not to travel to Pakistan and obviously no bilateral with Pakistan. Why is is such a shock to your ilk that India is not travelling to Pakistan? The Indian posters here have been saying the same for a ling time bow while the delusional ones claimed how India will have to travel and have no other option.
How can the indian board have a stance of 15 years when Pakistan hasn't hosted an event in that time.

Use your loaf.

Its delusional indian posters like you who have created this stance.

The CT was awarded to Pakistan a few years back the indian board has had long enough to speak out if this was real as well as well as the ICC otherwise the situation wouldn't have escalated to this current deadlock.

indian posters of your ilk need to understand in layman's term that if Pakistan refuse to play india anywhere due to government permission the game is screwed for all the cricket boards.

International cricket will cease to exist.

The question is are the indian board prepared to pay out 💲 to every board member , The ICC and loose significant broadcast revenue for every ICC event.
 
How can the indian board have a stance of 15 years when Pakistan hasn't hosted an event in that time.

Use your loaf.

Its delusional indian posters like you who have created this stance.

The CT was awarded to Pakistan a few years back the indian board has had long enough to speak out if this was real as well as well as the ICC otherwise the situation wouldn't have escalated to this current deadlock.

indian posters of your ilk need to understand in layman's term that if Pakistan refuse to play india anywhere due to government permission the game is screwed for all the cricket boards.

International cricket will cease to exist.

The question is are the indian board prepared to pay out 💲 to every board member , The ICC and loose significant broadcast revenue for every ICC event.
question is does Pak/PCB have balls ? History says no. It will remain a fact that cb proves otherwise
 
How can the indian board have a stance of 15 years when Pakistan hasn't hosted an event in that time.

Use your loaf.

Its delusional indian posters like you who have created this stance.

The CT was awarded to Pakistan a few years back the indian board has had long enough to speak out if this was real as well as well as the ICC otherwise the situation wouldn't have escalated to this current deadlock.

indian posters of your ilk need to understand in layman's term that if Pakistan refuse to play india anywhere due to government permission the game is screwed for all the cricket boards.

International cricket will cease to exist.

The question is are the indian board prepared to pay out 💲 to every board member , The ICC and loose significant broadcast revenue for every ICC event.
So PCB suing BCCI and ending up paying compensation to BCCI happened in some other universe of the Multiverse?
What universe have come from kid?

Basically you don't know jack about anything neither actual financials and other reality. Learn to read facts rather than random news propaganda.
 
indian posters of your ilk need to understand in layman's term that if Pakistan refuse to play india anywhere due to government permission the game is screwed for all the cricket boards.

International cricket will cease to exist.

The question is are the indian board prepared to pay out 💲 to every board member , The ICC and loose significant broadcast revenue for every ICC event.
Was that an attempt at sarcasm, or do you really believe all of the above that you wrote?
 
How can the indian board have a stance of 15 years when Pakistan hasn't hosted an event in that time.

Use your loaf.

Its delusional indian posters like you who have created this stance.

The CT was awarded to Pakistan a few years back the indian board has had long enough to speak out if this was real as well as well as the ICC otherwise the situation wouldn't have escalated to this current deadlock.

indian posters of your ilk need to understand in layman's term that if Pakistan refuse to play india anywhere due to government permission the game is screwed for all the cricket boards.

International cricket will cease to exist.

The question is are the indian board prepared to pay out 💲 to every board member , The ICC and loose significant broadcast revenue for every ICC event.

Thats not really true.

If Pakistan try to bully ICC, ICC will simply swat Pakistan away like a fly.

You may not like it but at the moment, India brings more money to ICC than Pakistan and thats what matters.

Its like a hospital where a doctor is a jerk but he brings 90 percent of the revenue will never be fired because hospital will incur significant losses.

Losing a doctor who is a nice man and brings 20 percent of revenue will be like swatting a fly and bringing another doctor in place.

This is basically how finances work.

You probably dont understand it because you are around 20 years old without a real job.
 
Obviously you are not aware that since the last 15 years Indian stance has been the same, not to travel to Pakistan and obviously no bilateral with Pakistan. Why is is such a shock to your ilk that India is not travelling to Pakistan? The Indian posters here have been saying the same for a ling time bow while the delusional ones claimed how India will have to travel and have no other option.
so if BCCI had same stance in last 15 years , why not raise any objections before 10th Nov when almost 100 days were left? a tentative schedule with Indian Matches in Lahore was presented in Board Meet of ICC. BCCI was present in that meet , why not say then ? like Hold On Guys , we are not coming to Lahore , you know we have nt for 15 years .. change the schedule.. what was BCCI thinking for all these months that passed by? why did BCCI had to create trouble for ICC when almost no time left to make adjustments? Like BCCI was waiting till last moment to pull off this stunt so ICC and Pcb are left with no choice to act? very cunning
 
so if BCCI had same stance in last 15 years , why not raise any objections before 10th Nov when almost 100 days were left? a tentative schedule with Indian Matches in Lahore was presented in Board Meet of ICC. BCCI was present in that meet , why not say then ? like Hold On Guys , we are not coming to Lahore , you know we have nt for 15 years .. change the schedule.. what was BCCI thinking for all these months that passed by? why did BCCI had to create trouble for ICC when almost no time left to make adjustments? Like BCCI was waiting till last moment to pull off this stunt so ICC and Pcb are left with no choice to act? very cunning
Unlike PCB which did not do any drama about WC23…… Like refusing to play in Ahmedabad.
 
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so if BCCI had same stance in last 15 years , why not raise any objections before 10th Nov when almost 100 days were left? a tentative schedule with Indian Matches in Lahore was presented in Board Meet of ICC. BCCI was present in that meet , why not say then ? like Hold On Guys , we are not coming to Lahore , you know we have nt for 15 years .. change the schedule.. what was BCCI thinking for all these months that passed by? why did BCCI had to create trouble for ICC when almost no time left to make adjustments? Like BCCI was waiting till last moment to pull off this stunt so ICC and Pcb are left with no choice to act? very cunning
Since 1993, the Indian government and the BCCI have been locked in an agar batee smoke-filled war room, tirelessly plotting their masterstroke to avenge the ultimate betrayal: Pakistan’s snub of cricket’s most transcendent and world-altering event, The Hero Cup. Most Indians were in tears when that happened and it undoubtedly altered the physiology of their brains.

Forget the Cold War, we all have to accept that this is the grudge that has shaped history. In 1993, Shiv Sena were chomping at the bit and threatening to kill the Pakistan team, digging up pitches and spewing all kinds of venom. They’ve been holding a Naagan victory dance on standby for 31 years, just waiting for this moment. Their patience has finally paid off, proving that when it comes to vengeance, cricket is deadlier than nukes, especially in the subcontinent.

I say let’s all applaud this epic display of priorities, together in unison. Because, sure, there might be other things that are important, but nothing quite beats the satisfaction of saying: “Remember The Hero Cup, bro?”
 
Since 1993, the Indian government and the BCCI have been locked in an agar batee smoke-filled war room, tirelessly plotting their masterstroke to avenge the ultimate betrayal: Pakistan’s snub of cricket’s most transcendent and world-altering event, The Hero Cup. Most Indians were in tears when that happened and it undoubtedly altered the physiology of their brains.

Forget the Cold War, we all have to accept that this is the grudge that has shaped history. In 1993, Shiv Sena were chomping at the bit and threatening to kill the Pakistan team, digging up pitches and spewing all kinds of venom. They’ve been holding a Naagan victory dance on standby for 31 years, just waiting for this moment. Their patience has finally paid off, proving that when it comes to vengeance, cricket is deadlier than nukes, especially in the subcontinent.

I say let’s all applaud this epic display of priorities, together in unison. Because, sure, there might be other things that are important, but nothing quite beats the satisfaction of saying: “Remember The Hero Cup, bro?”
a small addition
since 1948 , BCCI has been waiting for the moment where they Can tell ICC , No trophy Tour in Muzzarfabad.. that is true and ultimate victory in Subcontinent Geo Political disputes
 
Unlike PCb which did not do any drama about WC23…….Like refusing to play in Ahmedabad
In this case, the PCB had the balls to send their team to India. I am confident that if India decided to tour Pakistan but requested not to play in Karachi or any other venue they don't feel safe about, the PCB would still arrange an alternative venue. However, India should take the first step, tour Pakistan, and prove they have got gutts too. :inti
 
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In this case, the PCB had the balls to send their team to India. I am confident that if India decided to tour Pakistan but requested not to play in Karachi or any other venue they don't feel safe about, the PCB would still arrange an alternative venue. However, India should take the first step, tour Pakistan, and prove they have got gutts too. :inti
Is it security? Is it monetary penalization? Is it revenge for the 1993 hero cup? Social isolation? A selfless act of sanatana dharma sanctioned by Modi ji? Nobody knows what lane India is driving in today.
 
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Thats not really true.

If Pakistan try to bully ICC, ICC will simply swat Pakistan away like a fly.

You may not like it but at the moment, India brings more money to ICC than Pakistan and thats what matters.

Its like a hospital where a doctor is a jerk but he brings 90 percent of the revenue will never be fired because hospital will incur significant losses.

Losing a doctor who is a nice man and brings 20 percent of revenue will be like swatting a fly and bringing another doctor in place.

This is basically how finances work.

You probably dont understand it because you are around 20 years old without a real job.
What a laughable analogy.

The Doctor bringing in 80% must rely on customers, like Pakistan. No customer, no revenue.

This time the doctor is being asked to be on a call out and visit his customer.

The hospital in your analogy is your beloved BCCI.

I don't even think you understand the basics of an economy, supply and demand.
 
What a laughable analogy.

The Doctor bringing in 80% must rely on customers, like Pakistan. No customer, no revenue.

This time the doctor is being asked to be on a call out and visit his customer.

The hospital in your analogy is your beloved BCCI.

I don't even think you understand the basics of an economy, supply and demand.
Maybe the doctor doesn’t care about the patient and prepared to deal with the outcome.

Patient can always go to another doctor. Oh wait….
 
So PCB suing BCCI and ending up paying compensation to BCCI happened in some other universe of the Multiverse?
What universe have come from kid?

Basically you don't know jack about anything neither actual financials and other reality. Learn to read facts rather than random news propaganda.
Yet another indian poster who has no grasp of understanding and comprehension.

Seems like a pandemic :ROFLMAO:.

Your a confused little numpty with no substance.

Take your indian media propaganda and stick it where the sun don't shine kid. 🤡
 
Maybe the doctor doesn’t care about the patient and prepared to deal with the outcome.

Patient can always go to another doctor. Oh wait….
Wait, don’t doctors swear themselves to the Hippocratic Oath?

“I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but I will never use it to injure or wrong them.” According to Indians, Pakistan is a sick, broke board living off handouts..

The doctor in this case wants to punish the patient for missing their appointment in 1993 😂
 
Wait, don’t doctors swear themselves to the Hippocratic Oath?

“I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but I will never use it to injure or wrong them.” According to Indians, Pakistan is a sick, broke board living off handouts..

The doctor in this case wants to punish the patient for missing their appointment in 1993 😂
This doctor wants to have his cake and eat it. Guess the patient is SOL.

The patient can always go to a different doctor
 
Wait, don’t doctors swear themselves to the Hippocratic Oath?

“I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but I will never use it to injure or wrong them.” According to Indians, Pakistan is a sick, broke board living off handouts..

The doctor in this case wants to punish the patient for missing their appointment in 1993 😂
But like most things in India, the doctor qualified through dubious processes, which is why when the BCCI doctor was on call in 2017 in England, they came flying back to India with prescriptions for themselves! 🤣
 
Supply and demand right. Who was begging then and who is begging now?
Suing and taking legal action is the furthest thing from “begging.” I don’t agree with the PCB’s approach as the case was dubious, but there was an agreement in place which India reneged on.
 
What a laughable analogy.

The Doctor bringing in 80% must rely on customers, like Pakistan. No customer, no revenue.

This time the doctor is being asked to be on a call out and visit his customer.

The hospital in your analogy is your beloved BCCI.

I don't even think you understand the basics of an economy, supply and demand.

If you think removing Pakistan from ICC will cease existence of international cricket, then you better wear your diapers and start nursery again.

There is no other alternate explanation.

Good luck.
 
If you think removing Pakistan from ICC will cease existence of international cricket, then you better wear your diapers and start nursery again.

There is no other alternate explanation.

Good luck.
Again, you do not understand.

No one said anything about removing Pakistan from ICC. You sure you are a doctor? You do not pay attention to detail.

Making a stand is not bullying, maybe in your India it is, but not in the rest of the world.
 
Again, you do not understand.

No one said anything about removing Pakistan from ICC. You sure you are a doctor? You do not pay attention to detail.

Making a stand is not bullying, maybe in your India it is, but not in the rest of the world.

It's nice to make a stand.

It's asinine to make a stand when you live in a rented house and threaten the landlord that you will do this and that.

First, own the house, then make stands and threats.

Next time you want to introduce a strawman again, mention it clearly.

I know you think you are smart by typing a few lines on this forum, but I am allergic to stupidity.

Your tangential tactics might work on Indian posters but won't work on me.
 
It's nice to make a stand.

It's asinine to make a stand when you live in a rented house and threaten the landlord that you will do this and that.

First, own the house, then make stands and threats.

Next time you want to introduce a strawman again, mention it clearly.

I know you think you are smart by typing a few lines on this forum, but I am allergic to stupidity.

Your tangential tactics might work on Indian posters but won't work on me.
Rented house? The tournament is in Pakistan.

Any businessman can see Pakistan has the leverage, but this leverage wasn't utilised at all. PCB caved in each time, well not anymore.

How about this, predict how your BCCI would respond if PCB shunned them? You may have a better success rate than your match predictions.

Please go try and convince others you are a fan of Pakistan cricket, cos I ain't buying squat of what you are selling.

PS: You over the 2023 WC final loss?
 
Rented house? The tournament is in Pakistan.

Any businessman can see Pakistan has the leverage, but this leverage wasn't utilised at all. PCB caved in each time, well not anymore.

How about this, predict how your BCCI would respond if PCB shunned them? You may have a better success rate than your match predictions.

Please go try and convince others you are a fan of Pakistan cricket, cos I ain't buying squat of what you are selling.

PS: You over the 2023 WC final loss?

Pakistan has leverage? Lol.

What kind of leverage are we talking about?

India already said no.

Either ICC will hold it without India or with India.

If with India, Pakistan has no leverage as they will either have to hybrid or lose the tournament.

The only forlorn hope Pakistan has is ICC manages to replace India with Sri Lanka.
Is that the leverage you are talking about?


I am not aware of BCCI and its policies.

Again, let's not go into which team I support because everyone can see you throw your toys out of the pram anytime someone says something against Pakistan.

A Down's syndrome child acts more maturely than you when it comes to dealing with cricket and Pakistan.
 
Pakistan has leverage? Lol.

What kind of leverage are we talking about?

India already said no.

Either ICC will hold it without India or with India.

If with India, Pakistan has no leverage as they will either have to hybrid or lose the tournament.

The only forlorn hope Pakistan has is ICC manages to replace India with Sri Lanka.
Is that the leverage you are talking about?


I am not aware of BCCI and its policies.

Again, let's not go into which team I support because everyone can see you throw your toys out of the pram anytime someone says something against Pakistan.

A Down's syndrome child acts more maturely than you when it comes to dealing with cricket and Pakistan.
I take it you are not going taking prisoners today.
 
Refusal. Learns some business/negotiation basics.

Your India saying no doesn't mean anything, because Pakistan have not said yes.

There is a new sheriff in town, and it's not Amit Shah.

You mean Pakistan refuses to accept India not playing in Pakistan?

What is Pakistan gonna do?

Drag the Indian team on mules and force them to show up in Lahore?

If you mean Pakistan refuses to play Champions Trophy, good luck with that.

I hope you also refuse to go to work when your colleague has an issue with management and supervisors and you also forfeit your paychecks for that cause.

Oh wait, no.

You want your pay but you want Pakistan to suffer 30 million dollar loss of not playing.

Ah, hypocrisy hath no bounds.
 
You mean Pakistan refuses to accept India not playing in Pakistan?

What is Pakistan gonna do?
Oh man.

Do you even realise what is at stake and who loses out more? No you don't.

If Pakistan refuse the hybrid model, then Pakistan will lose revenue no doubt but the tournament itself will still generate revenue - TV rights, TV slots, sponsorships etc etc.

If India do not play in the CT, they lose out on approx 80% revenue AND, all the domestic revenue would vanish in a flash because no one in India would watch a tournament with no Indian team. Fair & Lovely adverts would be hit hard.

All it takes is a little backbone and refusal of the hybrid model from the PCB and then your BCCI will go round with a begging bowl trying to off set the loss/debt incurred.

India may appear strong, but it is a weakest board right now. Time to call Amit Shah's bluff and let's see what India is really made of.
 
Oh man.

Do you even realise what is at stake and who loses out more? No you don't.

If Pakistan refuse the hybrid model, then Pakistan will lose revenue no doubt but the tournament itself will still generate revenue - TV rights, TV slots, sponsorships etc etc.

If India do not play in the CT, they lose out on approx 80% revenue AND, all the domestic revenue would vanish in a flash because no one in India would watch a tournament with no Indian team. Fair & Lovely adverts would be hit hard.

All it takes is a little backbone and refusal of the hybrid model from the PCB and then your BCCI will go round with a begging bowl trying to off set the loss/debt incurred.

India may appear strong, but it is a weakest board right now. Time to call Amit Shah's bluff and let's see what India is really made of.
If this is not satire, this is biggest pile of idiocy I’ve read in a while.

It is consistent with a brexiteer approach. They need us more than we need them!
 
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