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Sri Lanka beat India by 63 runs to win the first Test in Galle

IndianWillow said:
Ashwin is better against pace than spin.
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He is better against non swinging pace.

But he can play spin if he is seriously careful.

Did that against Shane Shillingford who was turning it both ways. Did that against Swann.

Only struggled a bit against Panesar in Mumbai in that series.
 
subcontinental fans are really funny

Most Indians I know are trying to jinx the likely indian defeat at this point.
 
Rahane is a very, very fine batsman. He'd walk into any Test team in the world.

So until he gets out, I think that India retains a chance of winning, and a flat 20% chance at that.
 
Where's my boi [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]?
Must be pleased with Sl's tremendous performance in the last 2 days.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
He is better against non swinging pace.

But he can play spin if he is seriously careful.

Did that against Shane Shillingford who was turning it both ways. Did that against Swann.

Only struggled a bit against Panesar in Mumbai in that series.
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Ashwin can handle swing. He was the top scorer in that Manchester test where India got 152 and 161 and Ashin made 85 runs losing his wicket only once.
 
Funnily enough, this is showing just how foolish Ashwin was.

They need only 74 more runs, and Herath has bowled 16 overs and Kaushal 13 overs in this spell - and the rest of the bowling attack is garbage.
 
Junaids said:
Rahane is a very, very fine batsman. He'd walk into any Test team in the world.

So until he gets out, I think that India retains a chance of winning, and a flat 20% chance at that.
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20% is too much at this stage. Let them reach 125 first without losing a wicket.
 
There goes Rahane.. This test has to rank among the worst ever we played..
 
Wow. It really is all over bar the shouting now.

I feel sorry for India. At Test level they have the flat-track batting of Australia combined with the bowling depth of Bangladesh. IPL is killing them as a cricket power.
 
Junaids said:
Wow. It really is all over bar the shouting now.

I feel sorry for India. At Test level they have the flat-track batting of Australia combined with the bowling depth of Bangladesh. IPL is killing them as a cricket power.
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Its only the 1st test match. Wait till series is over.
 
Junaids said:
Wow. It really is all over bar the shouting now.

I feel sorry for India. At Test level they have the flat-track batting of Australia combined with the bowling depth of Bangladesh. IPL is killing them as a cricket power.
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Haha.. funny you showed up 'now'
 
I'm really pleased for Rangana Herath.

He's one of cricket's good guys. He basically lost half his career to a chucker but he has kept it clean himself, never complained about his fate, and just let his skill do the talking.
 
Junaids said:
I'm really pleased for Rangana Herath.

He's one of cricket's good guys. He basically lost half his career to a chucker but he has kept it clean himself, never complained about his fate, and just let his skill do the talking.
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And that is why cricket should never consider allowing spinners to chuck by more than 15 degrees. You would legalise Ajmals and Hafeezs but you would drive out of the game people like Herath who actually obey the rules.
 
Junaids said:
And that is why cricket should never consider allowing spinners to chuck by more than 15 degrees. You would legalise Ajmals and Hafeezs but you would drive out of the game people like Herath who actually obey the rules.
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Are you replying to your own post?
 
Belawal2014 said:
[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION] I hope you're pulling an all-nighter and catching this one.
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#GreenRoars said:
[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]
time to show up :)
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battler said:
Where's my boi [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]?
Must be pleased with Sl's tremendous performance in the last 2 days.
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I'm here. Need to go to bed soon its 4:00 am here. Herath can drift, dip and turn all at the same time. That is why he is so good. It is difficult to have dip and turn, by bowling all 3 combos together the batsman has to worry about tackling all ways he can be beaten.
 
Junaids said:
I'm really pleased for Rangana Herath.

He's one of cricket's good guys. He basically lost half his career to a chucker but he has kept it clean himself, never complained about his fate, and just let his skill do the talking.
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Herath made his debut in the late 90s, he wasn't good enough then.
 
Some betting guys are going to make huge money from this match the return on Sri Lanka victory was insane after 1st innings show.
 
Thivagar said:
Herath made his debut in the late 90s, he wasn't good enough then.
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Sure, but Murali was Sri Lanka's main Test spinner until 10 years and 10 months after Herath made his Test debut.

That's a decade Herath lost to Murali.
 
Good come back. Good performance by Chandimal, Kaushal and last but not least RANGANA HERATH. He is still the big dawg in the house. Good night.
 
MMHS said:
If it doesn't rain, there 'll be result - my money is SRL. With 5 bowlers & without MS, IND's last 5 wickets are Ashwin, Bhajji, Ishant, Mishra & Aron - they have kept Rohit & Saha is the WK. Last 2 days 'll be Friday & SAT - 'll definitely enjoy watching, IND chasing anything over 200.......
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[MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]

Congratulations. I have won some fake money........
 
Congrats to Sri Lanka, what an amazing turn of events! :14:

Brilliant captaincy by Mathews today, very impressive.
 
Well done Sri Lanka, these are the sort of defeats we have suffered in past and it's a bitter pill to swallow.
 
Congrats SL. ( [MENTION=134867]Kiri[/MENTION] & [MENTION=137677]Thivagar[/MENTION]). Brilliant comeback.
 
I just cannot believe it. I simply refuse to!!! What just happened? How can this happen? Is it even possible? God damn it why did i decide to not watch it!!!!!
 
Top notch
Well Done Team Sri Lanka
A well deserving victory to the departing sangacara.

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Today, in any case, probably IND would have lost, because their team selection was wrong. Ashwin, Mishra, Bhaji can score runs, but they are (including Ashwin) bowlers who can bat - normally under pressure they don't score. Should have gone with 6 batsmen, if 5 bowlers, then it was must that Rohit should have carried drinks & Pujara plays. BUT, today IND lost for Dhawan - I think, I explained why.


This hard ball game is a bit unique - you play a physical game with the mind of a chess & bridge player. I always say Test cricket is the most attacking format, because one can play to his own pace. In ODI or T20, there is nothing called attitude - you are forced to slog as the balls are counted.

This morning was a classic example of why I rate a batsman averaging 50.23 & a conversion rate as poor as a century in every 6 Test the greatest batsman of all time.
 
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Nice captaincy from Matthews today. It looks like he is learning which is good to see.
 
MMHS said:
Today, in any case, probably IND would have lost, because their team selection was wrong. Ashwin, Mishra, Bhaji can score runs, but they are (including Ashwin) bowlers who can bat - normally under pressure they don't score. Should have gone with 6 batsmen, if 5 bowlers, then it was must that Rohit should have carried drinks & Pujara plays. BUT, today IND lost for Dhawan - I think, I explained why.


This hard ball game is a bit unique - you play a physical game with the mind of a chess & bridge player. I always say Test cricket is the most attacking format, because one can play to his own pace. In ODI or T20, there is nothing called attitude - you are forced to slog as the balls are counted.

This morning was a classic example of why I rate a batsman averaging 50.23 & a conversion rate as poor as a century in every 6 Test the greatest batsman of all time.
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Yep, Viv is certainly the greatest batsman that I have seen in 40+ years of watching cricket, although poor Barry Richards was unable to get the opportunities to outshine him.
 
Atif said:
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I think that's a bit cruel. Poor India lost Ceylon and the two Pakistans that day. They opened the tin containing their birthday cake and found that half of it had gone.
 
Lol..what a great independence day present for our lovely parses. Thanks herath and Co. Pathetic spineless batting from the new aggressive India. Hope this continues.
 
MMHS said:
Today, in any case, probably IND would have lost, because their team selection was wrong. Ashwin, Mishra, Bhaji can score runs, but they are (including Ashwin) bowlers who can bat - normally under pressure they don't score.
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This thing actually.

Three bowlers who can bat a bit < One genuine batsman

Under tougher and pressure situations, one proper batsman is likely to score much more than two-three semi-batsman. Hope Kohli and co. would have realized this by now.
 
Junaids said:
Yep, Viv is certainly the greatest batsman that I have seen in 40+ years of watching cricket, although poor Barry Richards was unable to get the opportunities to outshine him.
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Not the right thread - on pure batting merit Greg & probably Barry was better than Viv of their generation - but Viv Richards wasn't only about Technic, aggression or power; he was something special. If I were someone coming from Mars without any knowledge of Cricket - watching archives, I am sure, I could have separated Viv from others just for the body language, approach to the game & intimidation - he was unique.
 
MMHS said:
Not the right thread - on pure batting merit Greg & probably Barry was better than Viv of their generation - but Viv Richards wasn't only about Technic, aggression or power; he was something special. If I were someone coming from Mars without any knowledge of Cricket - watching archives, I am sure, I could have separated Viv from others just for the body language, approach to the game & intimidation - he was unique.
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And he was terrifying in this sort of situation.

Remember 1987-88? Pakistan won the first Test in the West Indies while he was out with piles. He came back for the next two and scored centuries in both to level the series at 1-1 and save the West Indies' position at the top of the Test pile for the rest of his career.
 
Stallion__ said:
This thing actually.

Three bowlers who can bat a bit < One genuine batsman

Under tougher and pressure situations, one proper batsman is likely to score much more than two-three semi-batsman. Hope Kohli and co. would have realized this by now.
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I repeat if 4 average bowlers cannot do the job, the fifth average bowler will not do the job either. One batsman less puts more pressure on the top order as the tail is long. So far India's strength is there batting compared to their bowling and they should play to their strengths.
 
MMHS said:
Today, in any case, probably IND would have lost, because their team selection was wrong. Ashwin, Mishra, Bhaji can score runs, but they are (including Ashwin) bowlers who can bat - normally under pressure they don't score. Should have gone with 6 batsmen, if 5 bowlers, then it was must that Rohit should have carried drinks & Pujara plays. BUT, today IND lost for Dhawan - I think, I explained why.


This hard ball game is a bit unique - you play a physical game with the mind of a chess & bridge player. I always say Test cricket is the most attacking format, because one can play to his own pace. In ODI or T20, there is nothing called attitude - you are forced to slog as the balls are counted.

This morning was a classic example of why I rate a batsman averaging 50.23 & a conversion rate as poor as a century in every 6 Test the greatest batsman of all time.
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With four bowlers, SL could have romped to 500 in their second innings. IMHO India got mentally shot after the assault by Chandimal. India had expected to roll out SL for an innings defeat but the counterattack took them by surprise and they never recovered. India could have won this match with this team, but not with this attitude.
 
Anyways, bottom line is, who ever made the strategy to tuk tuk to this target needs to be fired. The only time Rahane looked like posing some sort of a challenge to the spinners was when he bought the sweep shots into play. Was surprised by the lack of sweep shots or innovation to disturb the bowler.
 
Test cricket zinda bad!!
i dont know why people get bored of it . i am a young boy and I love it
 
IndianWillow said:
With four bowlers, SL could have romped to 500 in their second innings. IMHO India got mentally shot after the assault by Chandimal. India had expected to roll out SL for an innings defeat but the counterattack took them by surprise and they never recovered. India could have won this match with this team, but not with this attitude.
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They could and should have won, even with this team but that don't hide the poor selection.

They were effectively playing (9 vs 11). 5 bowlers make no sense when one of them is 'Harbhajan Singh'. Infact, that turned out to be a counter-productive strategy, since Bhajji allowed Chandi, Thiri and Mubarak to settle in.

If you are going to play 5 bowlers, play 5 genuine test class bowlers, not for the sake of giving the impression of fake aggression.
 
Stallion__ said:
They could and should have won, even with this team but that don't hide the poor selection.

They were effectively playing (9 vs 11). 5 bowlers make no sense when one of them is 'Harbhajan Singh'. Infact, that turned out to be a counter-productive strategy, since Bhajji allowed Chandi, Thiri and Mubarak to settle in.

If you are going to play 5 bowlers, play 5 genuine test class bowlers, not for the sake of giving the impression of fake aggression.
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Bhajji was a poor selection, he is in there just because he is Kohli's pal. They could have even tried a young spinner instead of a TTF in Harbhajan.
 
IndianWillow said:
Ashwin can handle swing. He was the top scorer in that Manchester test where India got 152 and 161 and Ashin made 85 runs losing his wicket only once.
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He can play swing.

But I think he is better against spin even though he looks more idiotic against spin at times.
 
IndianWillow said:
With four bowlers, SL could have romped to 500 in their second innings. IMHO India got mentally shot after the assault by Chandimal. India had expected to roll out SL for an innings defeat but the counterattack took them by surprise and they never recovered. India could have won this match with this team, but not with this attitude.
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I don't think so - for all that 5th bowler strategy, Bhajii had a match figure of
25-1-90-1, much respected figures because he came to bowl at 60/5 in 1st inning, other wise would have scored another century. Rohit is more than capable of matching his figures.

SRL romped that score not because of 5 bowlers, but because of the positive intent & IND bowlers going into their shell - you take a 6th bowler, don't think they would have closed SRL inside 300.... That same attack got them all out for 183, when wicket was probably better. Number of bowlers hardly matters, if your regular bowlers don't bowl well.

IND 'll change the combination, if not, every-time they bat 2nd 'll lose the Test for fight for survival.
 
MMHS said:
I don't think so - for all that 5th bowler strategy, Bhajii had a match figure of
25-1-90-1, much respected figures because he came to bowl at 60/5 in 1st inning, other wise would have scored another century. Rohit is more than capable of matching his figures.

SRL romped that score not because of 5 bowlers, but because of the positive intent & IND bowlers going into their shell - you take a 6th bowler, don't think they would have closed SRL inside 300.... That same attack got them all out for 183, when wicket was probably better. Number of bowlers hardly matters, if your regular bowlers don't bowl well.

IND 'll change the combination, if not, every-time they bat 2nd 'll lose the Test for fight for survival.
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The problem with 5 bowlers is that at least one of them and in the worst case scenario 2 of them will end up being under bowled and under utilized. India should play to their strengths.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
He can play swing.

But I think he is better against spin even though he looks more idiotic against spin at times.
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Actually, it about pressure handling, when something is at stake. Once Sohaib hit English attack for 43 in 14 balls, in Cape Town light, in a WC eliminator effectively - sounds greats. Read this way - he slogged his bat around & connected that day, when PAK needed 130+ in 13 overs for last wicket....

That Old Traford match doesn't prove anything - IND lost by innings & inside 3 days. In the same match, say some how, IND got ENG all-out for 0 in 2nd innings & Ashwin is given a task of scoring 50 with last 4 wickets to win the match - then the fun starts.

Batting is not only about runs scored by innings played - net-off innings not out.
 
IndianWillow said:
With four bowlers, SL could have romped to 500 in their second innings. IMHO India got mentally shot after the assault by Chandimal. India had expected to roll out SL for an innings defeat but the counterattack took them by surprise and they never recovered. India could have won this match with this team, but not with this attitude.
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You should see Harbjan stats in this match, he was the weak link due to him SL got a lead on 175. you don't play with 3 spinners if you want to play 5 bowlers you go with 3fast & 2 spinners. As [MENTION=109323]striker[/MENTION]ate mentioned in another thread last time India played 3 spinners against SL it was that 950 famous test match. India should learn from there mistake.
 
MMHS said:
Actually, it about pressure handling, when something is at stake. Once Sohaib hit English attack for 43 in 14 balls, in Cape Town light, in a WC eliminator effectively - sounds greats. Read this way - he slogged his bat around & connected that day, when PAK needed 130+ in 13 overs for last wicket....

That Old Traford match doesn't prove anything - IND lost by innings & inside 3 days. In the same match, say some how, IND got ENG all-out for 0 in 2nd innings & Ashwin is given a task of scoring 50 with last 4 wickets to win the match - then the fun starts.

Batting is not only about runs scored by innings played - net-off innings not out.
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If Ashwin is good at anything, its in handling pressure.

Both his 100s came when our team needed them the most (one to avoid follow on and another when we were 162-6). Most of his 50s were in clutch situations.

That's why he is rated.
 
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