The 4th ODI at Ahmedabad: score and discussion, 1st Innings [11/04/05]

[sajjad]

282/4 after 45.1
another wide by malik

a wild throw cud have been close had it been straight

 

[Hash]

Raz- naturally it would take him a couple of games to get back into his groove. No matter how much he bowled in the nets, nothgin prepares yuo for bowling in the middle.

 

[Cartman]

and u r saying that Anwar would have crossed tendulkar if he had played another 100 games... he he he...

Probably not.. because Anwar played for his country not milestones...

come on even Indians should know that.. in fact only Indians should know that.
Last time I checked Pakistan had a much better ODI and test record than India, and lets see now how long has this "bradman junior" been playing for India? close to 20 years? Has not really helped change his country's success ratio now has he?? specially outside the subcontinent??


NOW THATS WHAT I call a truly classy player ... so many cneturies but nothing to show for when it comes to TEAM success record.

 

[sajjad]

malik easy pickings for the classy dravid

 

[Sid9999]

haa haa haa.... haa haa haa....

 

[sajjad]

dravid gone..but india has scored way to many

 

[Raz]

Dravid gone now!

 

[Raz]

300 is on the cards.

 

[Officer Barbrady]

288/5 in 45.5

It is a custom to blame Inzi but it has been more poor bowling than poor captaincy. He cannot control legside deliveries or noballs and wides.

 

[sajjad]

Tendulkar is a class act but i do agree, with all his talent it hasnt shown in indian vicotries as much as it shud.

 

[Hash]

exactly marooned


But i still believe that we can chase this down

 

[Cartman]

give akmal a break guys.. its hot out there... i dont htink the other guy whats his name zulqernain can be as good..

wicket-keeping is tough job in 95 degree plus temperatures.

 

[nafajafam]

hows the pitch playing so far?

 

[Raz]

32 extras in this match!

 

[Imy]

Inzi has to get a 100 no getting run outs he costs pakistan 40 runs with his bad captaocy and fielding

 

[sajjad]

its still very slow...not coming onto the bat.

bowl online and scoring is very tuf

 

[Raz]

Inzi has to get a 100 no getting run outs he costs pakistan 40 runs with his bad captaocy and fielding

Its been more bad bowling than bad captaincy. Inzi cant bowl for the side. The bowlers need to take responsibility too.

 

[Hash]

nafajafam...


the pessimists will say it is slowing......going to get harder to bat like they have said every match so far (apart from the 3rd one) and the pitch itself has not changed even the slightest in any game.

The reason why the side batting first has won is because of the tiredness/lack of concentration brought about by the heat when fielding first.

Inshallah the trend will change and I believe we can chase this down.

 

[Sid9999]

yaa.. but for 16 years.. he had fought lonely battles everywhere... without the support of quality bowling, and consistent support from other batsman... untill Ganguly and Dravid ... and now Sehwag has come around.. That shows the quality of the man... that shows the fighting spirit...

 

[sajjad]

its a 240-250 runs wkt...we need an Afridi firing to get close to this score..but as we all know.

Pakistan will win this match

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Inzi has to get a 100 no getting run outs he costs pakistan 40 runs with his bad captaocy and fielding

can you explain how and when the captaincy was bad? I mean where did he go wrong? Was point too deep? Fine leg up? Where was he wrong?

 

[Raz]

Sami bowls Kaif!

 

[Cartman]

way he is hyped up about.. best batsman after bradman.. and blah blah blah bs bs bs bs...

has been playing for India for so long.. raked up so many runs.. and ever since he has been around how many times has India had a significant victory under its belt outside the sub continent with him playing.. have they beaten Australia, England, South Africa, West Indies or even New Zealand in an away test series???


Half his centuries came on such watered down pitches.. thank you very much.. What are u going to do with that much class???..


Look at Anwar's record.. it wont have that many hundreds, runs or average, but his innings helped stamp Pakistan's authority all over the world.

 

[sajjad]

Inzi has to get a 100 no getting run outs he costs pakistan 40 runs with his bad captaocy and fielding

can you explain how and when the captaincy was bad? I mean where did he go wrong? Was point too deep? Fine leg up? Where was he wrong?

he didnt change the bowlers well. when they were going for 7 an over @ the start and rana was gifting away runs
he shud have made bowling changes..also when sachin was tired he regularly played fine and kept getting runs..field was not well set

 

[Hash]

cricinfo has been appauling today

I'm going to pop over to my friends for our innings.

 

[Imy]

Inzi is way too defensive, the guys cant hit straight that all snick to thrid man and he has one fielder, shaoib malik is still bowling even now, come on

 

[sajjad]

Yuvraj CRUCIFYING PAKISTAN

 

[Sid9999]

again ... just read my point above... no wait.. i will repeat it for you...

but for 16 years.. he had fought lonely battles everywhere... without the support of quality bowling, and consistent support from other batsman... untill Ganguly and Dravid ... and now Sehwag has come around.. That shows the quality of the man... that shows the fighting spirit...

and pray tell me... which single batsman has taken its team to victories... without the support of the bowling or other batsman contributing significantly...

 

[Raz]

2 4s in 3 balls!

 

[sajjad]

when did DRAVID N GANGULY MAKE THIER DEBUTS

 

[Imy]

who the hell bowls a spinner in the last over

 

[sajjad]

4 wides and pakistan feeling 300 is not enuf...trying to raise it to 320-330

 

[Hash]

a lot of people do Imy


Yuvraj was out as well Hari haran didn't give him

 

[Sid9999]

after 1996 world cup... during england tour...

 

[DM]

Another Ramiz Special: (Malik bowls 4 wides)

"Very smart from Yuvraj.....Very dumb from Shoaib Malik"

 

[Raz]

This is where Inzi has made a HUGE mistake. Letting Malik bowl the last few overs when he knows he just getting back into his rhythm.

He should have brought in Rana or Shahid, but not Malik!

 

[Imy]

Marooned is your question answered now about inzis capatincy

 

[Schiller]

Inzi has to be one of the more inspid, uninspired, daft of a captain, I have seen in recent times. Damned fool!!!

Not to mention some all round poor pathetic performance

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Inzi has to get a 100 no getting run outs he costs pakistan 40 runs with his bad captaocy and fielding

can you explain how and when the captaincy was bad? I mean where did he go wrong? Was point too deep? Fine leg up? Where was he wrong?

he didnt change the bowlers well. when they were going for 7 an over @ the start and rana was gifting away runs
he shud have made bowling changes..also when sachin was tired he regularly played fine and kept getting runs..field was not well set

Rana came back well in that spell. We have only Razzak in the team as the other pacer and he was going to be more comfortable with the slightly older ball. And a spinner bowling in the 8th over is a big risk.

Anyhow this question wasn't for you. I feel some people (not you) just blame the captain whether they watch or not and whether he is at fault or not.

Even then I would say it was more poor bowling than anything else.

 

[Imy]

Hash not when the batting side has wickets left

 

[badxhah]

Sanjay - How Yuraj finds the gap is beyond me
Rameez-Why is shoaib Malik bowling the last over is BEYOND ME.

RR=Good Tactics by Yuraj ..Dumb tactics by Shoiab Malik

 

[Cartman]

even since 96 how many test series or ODI tournaments has India won outside the sub continent???


Zimbabwe doesnt count!!!

 

[Raz]

Malik may have picked up wickets but that last over cost Pakistan 17 runs!

 

[pak_all_the_way]

i think inzy got it rong with malik

he bowled 3 overs to much whicch should have been shared between rana and danish

 

[Imy]

True you win the toss and probably win the game but seem slike Inzi just conedes defeat

 

[161]

Extras - 38

 

[DM]

Malik may have picked up wickets but that last over cost Pakistan 17 runs!

19 runs

 

[Officer Barbrady]

Inzi is way too defensive, the guys cant hit straight that all snick to thrid man and he has one fielder, shaoib malik is still bowling even now, come on

Yes you have one fielder at third man. How many can you have? Malik should not have been bowling at the end.

 

[Cartman]

even since 96 how many test series or ODI tournaments has India won outside the sub continent???


Zimbabwe doesnt count!!!

I don't hear u laughing now Sid..















thats what I thought!

 

[Sid9999]

how many has pakistan won... what is the record of pakistan team in tests... specially against Aus in last 7-8 years... inspite of having Anwar, Inzi, Aamir, Wasim and Waqar... how come Pakistan got bowled twice at 50 odd runs.. in the same innings against Aus... inspite of having inzi, and anwar... well a person cannot perform his 100% in each and every match.. their are bound to be failures... adn by the way... Sachin himself single handedly took India to WC finals...

 

[Schiller]

Like I said, we were poor nearly in everything and having a flat, pathetic excuse of a captain worsened it.
what rot!

 

[MIG]

I resign from the Inzi fan club...

 

[Raz]

Malik may have picked up wickets but that last over cost Pakistan 17 runs!

19 runs

Ok 19 if u include the leg byes.

 

[Schiller]

you better!

 

[Muddaser]

Bakri didnt do all too well either.

About time Zulqarnain replaces him.

 

[cricketcrazy]

What the hell Inzi was thinking

What the hell Inzi thinking why Rana didnt bowl the last over??
I think so the last 19 runs from last over will be too costly

 

[Schiller]

Bakri was damned poor, shamefully poor today
his form has been rather poor against pacers but today he did poorly against spinners as well

 

[Schiller]

inzi thinking - oxymoron

 

[Cartman]

how many has pakistan won... what is the record of pakistan team in tests... specially against Aus in last 7-8 years... inspite of having Anwar, Inzi, Aamir, Wasim and Waqar... how come Pakistan got bowled twice at 50 odd runs.. in the same innings against Aus... inspite of having inzi, and anwar... well a person cannot perform his 100% in each and every match.. their are bound to be failures... adn by the way... Sachin himself single handedly took India to WC finals...

Pakistan has not lost a series in England for about 20 years now. Won in New Zealand.. Pakistan has too many ODI trophies .. too many to count.. Including the Asia Cup thrashing to India in 99.. you may wanna look that up.

Pakistan has not won against Australia in Australia but then again how many teams have done that lately?


You were just trying to argue Terdu's class with me AND i AM TELLING YOU if he is all that if he is the second coming of Bradman, how come India is next to Bangladesh on ODI table and not even won a test series outside ...


We are not comparing Pakistan/ India here mind you.. you have to convince me Terdu is class... now as far as I am concerned, you have failed miserably in that regard.

 

[nafajafam]

again ... just read my point above... no wait.. i will repeat it for you...

but for 16 years.. he had fought lonely battles everywhere... without the support of quality bowling, and consistent support from other batsman... untill Ganguly and Dravid ... and now Sehwag has come around.. That shows the quality of the man... that shows the fighting spirit...

and pray tell me... which single batsman has taken its team to victories... without the support of the bowling or other batsman contributing significantly...

i think lara has done that to australia.

 

[Guest]

Pathetic Captaincy from Inzi today

 

[Cartman]

see sid.. najaf understands what im trying to say..


even laxman pulled that innings of 281 out.. lets see what sachin ramesh terd-ul-kar has done of such significance..


i rate Lara much much much higher than Terdulkar even though he has that lousy trait of chasing personal glory as well.. but still doesnt beat Terdu ..

 

[Cartman]

Bakri didnt do all too well either.

About time Zulqarnain replaces him.

unfair of us to jump the gun and call for his head.. ODIs are not that important, this guy has shown his class in tests under tough conditions and kept well on low pitches of India which is a tough job.. I think we are being too harsh on the poor guy.

 

[Naz]

Just count down till afridi gets out.