The Myths Debunking Thread

[mominsaigol]

Why bother pulling the trigger when your enemy does it to himself every single day?

Who says I'm the one pulling the trigger

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Who says I'm the one pulling the trigger

Raju and Kaju march in here every day with guns blazing for their enemies, yet the only bodies they ever drop are their own. The true Laurel and Hardy of this forum.

 

[JaDed]

What the is hell is this thread for?
Myth Bunking:

Alfred Nobel did not establish a prize for mathematics in his will because he didn't believe the field had as great a practical benefit to humanity as other fields, and he had a personal lack of interest in it
. Myths suggesting a romantic rival or an existing award for mathematicians have been debunked.

 

[JaDed]

A lot of Myths that get passed around about scientists and monuments.

The great wall of China isn't visible from space not by naked eye.

 

[HalBass9]

You let them talk, convinced they’re exposing you, when in reality, all they’re exposing is how deeply they’re brainwashed and how comfortably they live inside their echo chamber. Most of them just enjoy performing as the extremist version of themselves, fueled by the same indoctrination of hate. I’ve yet to meet a single Hindutva supporter who hasn’t embarrassed themselves while thinking they’ve “won” every argument defending their bigotry. And when logic fails, they retreat to their final shield, boasting about their wealth. That’s the last refuge of their hatred. Truly, a pathetic cult.

 

[Stewie]

He was born in a Christian house as a black male. However he got radicalised reading the Al-Qaeda manuals. So the act of killing 3 girls were not due to his Christian or Black roots but as per brain washing reading Al Qaeda manuals. Sure admins can delete it but you brought Southport attacks in this thread and I just corrected your lie. Remember I told you as long as Rajdeep is here, you can't bluff

The below is what Merseyside police had to say.

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Merseyside Police​

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Today Axel Rudakubana has pleaded guilty to the murders of Bebe King, Elsie Dot Stancombe and Alice Da Silva Aguiar, the attempted murders of eight children and two adults; possession of a bladed article in a public place; production of a biological toxin namely ricin, contrary to Section 1 of the Biological Weapons Act 1974; possession of information, namely a PDF file entitled “Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual” of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing, or preparing, an act of terrorism, contrary to Section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000.​

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Not defending AQ, but reading this excerpt doesn’t prove he was “radicalized” by Al Qaeda- he could have just used their literature to learn how to develop the weapon but his motivations were not potentially driven by AQ.

In fact I remember reading that no motive was actually identified for the killings.

 

[uppercut]

Gotta love convinced in their delusional mind that they are somehow stand on a moral highground while their own Gernails and ministers are proud of being a certified jihadi terror-factory and ofcourse a Dump truck ... cant make this up ​

 

[Stewie]

Gotta love the resident Madrassa chaaps convinced in their delusional mind that they are somehow stand on a moral highground while their own Gernails and ministers are proud of being a certified jihadi terror-factory and ofcourse a Dump truck ... cant make this up ​

What’s moral high ground to Indians? Let’s not get into a debate about morality because you guys are always competing with Pakistan on equal footing on everything negative. Hard to admit it but deep inside you guys know this truth as well.

 

[uppercut]

What’s moral high ground to Indians? Let’s not get into a debate about morality because you guys are always competing with Pakistan on equal footing on everything negative. Hard to admit it but deep inside you guys know this truth as well.

Can you list some of these negatives that we are supposedly competing with Pakistan ?

 

[Stewie]

Can you list some of these negatives that we are supposedly competing with Pakistan ?

You started with the pseudo accusatory tone so why don’t you provide the basis for your bias first?

 

[uppercut]

You started with the pseudo accusatory tone so why don’t you provide the basis for your bias first?

Islamic extremism ... hence why I classify them as "Madrasa chaaps" self explanatory

But since you were the one claiming that Indians are always competing with Pakistan on equal footing on everything negative. So go ahead and let us know what are these negatives that we are in competition with you guys.

 

[HalBass9]

Forgot to add 1971, when it’s about Pakistani Muslims, it’s a victory lap for “breaking East Pakistan.” When it’s about Bangladeshi Muslims, the script flips to “we gifted you a country.” And when it’s about Indian Muslims, suddenly Bangli Muslims become the “evil” ones, while their fugitive is pampered as a house guest. And they say the myth about Hindutva being delusional is just a myth, turns out, it’s the only truth they consistently prove.

 

[Stewie]

Islamic extremism ... hence why I classify them as "Madrasa chaaps" self explanatory

But since you were the one claiming that Indians are always competing with Pakistan on equal footing on everything negative. So go ahead and let us know what are these negatives that we are in competition with you guys.

So India doesn’t have Muslim extremists? Hindu extremists? Is Islamic extremism limited or symbolic of pakistan only? Don’t Bangladesh have them? Saudia? Iraq?

Have you ever visited Pakistan? Do you believe all Pakistanis send their children to madrassas only because that’s what you have been told? Aren’t there village schools in India? Where do Hindu villagers send their children to school? They all go to ITT jamney ke forum baad? Do they come out splouting newtons three laws or call center scams?

Come on, man. Don’t be an idiot

 

[Technics 1210]

Modi is a saviour of Hindu India - this myth has thoroughly been debunked and refuted.

 

[Stewie]

Modi is a saviour of Hindu India - this myth has thoroughly been debunked and refuted.

Madrassa chhaap Pakistanis - bad
Illiterate jaahil Hindu PM for India - good

Mind blowing Hindu logic!

 

[uppercut]

So India doesn’t have Muslim extremists? Hindu extremists? Is Islamic extremism limited or symbolic of pakistan only? Don’t Bangladesh have them? Saudia? Iraq?

Have you ever visited Pakistan? Do you believe all Pakistanis send their children to madrassas only because that’s what you have been told? Aren’t there village schools in India? Where do Hindu villagers send their children to school? They all go to ITT jamney ke forum baad? Do they come out splouting newtons three laws or call center scams?

Come on, man. Don’t be an idiot

dude ... just 4 months ago 26 people were gun down infront of their families in broad daylight after being asked to strip to identify if they were Hindu or not ... And a week before that your Jihadi Gernail was openly telling the world how bigoted he was on camera and here you are lecturing me claiming that India has similar problems ?​

 

[BouncerGuy]

GUYS

NO PERSONAL REMARKS

 

[JaDed]

German Engineering is the best in the world..

It’s not anymore and consistently going down at a pace enough to cause “micro” recession.
Chinese engineering is beating German Auto, Americans are getting better at AI.
Not too sure what’s going on with them but they are unable to compete with the scale of China in Auto and US in software/hardware anymore.

 

[mominsaigol]

The biggest myths I've ever been told

1) if you calorie cut you enter starvation mode

2) Shaving makes your beard grow thicker

3) Video Games make you violent

4) Good Grades in school leads to a successful life while bad grades lead to a horrible life

 

[Stewie]

dude ... just 4 months ago 26 people were gun down infront of their families in broad daylight after being asked to strip to identify if they were Hindu or not ... And a week before that your Jihadi Gernail was openly telling the world how bigoted he was on camera and here you are lecturing me claiming that India has similar problems ?​

Muslims get gunned down every other day. By the way You should really look Inti what minority controls the cotton production mafia in rural sindh. Millionaires without paying taxes. Look it up

 

[ElRaja]

German Engineering is the best in the world..

It’s not anymore and consistently going down at a pace enough to cause “micro” recession.
Chinese engineering is beating German Auto, Americans are getting better at AI.
Not too sure what’s going on with them but they are unable to compete with the scale of China in Auto and US in software/hardware anymore.

germany is in a slow death spiral, their industry is getting out competed by asia, their local markets arent big enough, and their major brands are relying primiarily on their reputation than actual technical prowess. they have zero penetration in modern tech. they also have one of the most aggressive demographic changes in any countries history, europe is sleep walking into germany swinging hard to the right when the economic downturn eventually bites. their politicians have been asleep at the wheel, like most of europe, unable to understand the shifting economic trends in a bipolar world.

 

[JaDed]

germany is in a slow death spiral, their industry is getting out competed by asia, their local markets arent big enough, and their major brands are relying primiarily on their reputation than actual technical prowess. they have zero penetration in modern tech. they also have one of the most aggressive demographic changes in any countries history, europe is sleep walking into germany swinging hard to the right when the economic downturn eventually bites. their politicians have been asleep at the wheel, like most of europe, unable to understand the shifting economic trends in a bipolar world.

Unfortunately true.. Zeiss is their only top company that is irreplaceable, Germany still has the foundations to kick start or push scientific entrepreneurship but they are happy with status quo.

 

[mominsaigol]

Lol first one is wannabe who I'm already put in my ignore list long ago , and kron, Sachin fan etc have good discussion with me .rest who the hell they are I don't even know .

But what is reality that everyone's ( Including Pakistani) know your reality that you're a wannabe poster. Everyone's here own you including Pakistani poster.

As I said your destiny is humiliated by everyone's.

^^ That's one, want 100 more?

Show me proof of people owning me? All i see is are pu@ssies ignoring me and running away from me lol. And even then just 10 of em.

And which Pakistani poster is owning me? When did that happen . Wait are you talking about @heddie19 ? Lmaoooooo.

Stop this cringe nonsense. Also you know who ryanryan is. Stop acting like you dont. You know the others are well.

You want the ss of sachinfan mauling you on kohli vs sachin? And how you cried about it? Heck you even cried to me about how your precious kohli was getting insulted and asked me to take care of @Sachin fan for you .

Not to mention you pinging moderators infront of me 2x to stop bullying and 3x in private to stop the harassment.

Pintu Meena Devadwal, Sabar kar ja.

 

[mominsaigol]

Btw I am curious, what's the no of Indians on this forumn? And what's the no of people who clown @Devadwal on a daily basis?

Can we get the stats for this

 

[Devadwal]

Btw I am curious, what's the no of Indians on this forumn? And what's the no of people who clown @Devadwal on a daily basis?

Can we get the stats for this

Pakistani and wannabe are expert of claiming fake victory even when they are humiliated . This is genetic problem so I'm not surprised

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistani and wannabe are expert of claiming fake victory even when they are humiliated . This is genetic problem so I'm not surprised

What fake victory? What are you even blabbering on about?

I'm in Bangkok atm chilling . I havent even been active for 2 days and just returned to see you getting clowned on a daily basis which is a standard norm.

It isn't my fault a Jaipur Indian is the meme of the century.

 

[Devadwal]

This wannabe don't know that poster was talking about Pakistan team.

 

[Devadwal]

What fake victory? What are you even blabbering on about?

I'm in Bangkok atm chilling . I havent even been active for 2 days and just returned to see you getting clowned on a daily basis which is a standard norm.

It isn't my fault a Jaipur Indian is the meme of the century.

I owned you 24*7 after Asia cup 2023 and like Pakistan team you haven't recovered at all . You have become wannabe supporter since then

 

[mominsaigol]

I owned you 24*7 after Asia cup 2023 and like Pakistan team you haven't recovered at all . You have become wannabe supporter since then

When did you own me 24/7 after Asia cup?

I have ss of before asia cup as well supporting aus. But their is no point of sharing ss with a rajistani graduate.

After Asia cup we hardly interacted, infact we didn't interact much after wc. After wc I left for a few months to search for work and returned only in 2024 slightly before world cup 2024.

Our first fight was that cricket is a mantis thread nonsense. Then you blocked me for nearly a year by saying "I dont think I should interact with you" and begged others to ignore me as well lol. Infact I was beefing with dv at that time.

You even messaged me to stop bullying you and interact with others as you have ignored me for good.

Afterwards you one day just decided to unblock during the india vs england game and then after further bullying you reported everyone from bhaag and major for that meena nonsense and pinged moderators 2x.

After that you just became weirder and weirder from Hindi spams and some other daily nonsense that you spout.

Stop trying to rewrite history, I have every single ss. Even the ones where you tried to talk to me about siraj, I called siraj your mother and then you pinged a moderator to stop further bullying lol.

 

[mominsaigol]

When did you own me 24/7 after Asia cup?

I have ss of before asia cup as well supporting aus. But their is no point of sharing ss with a rajistani graduate.

After Asia cup we hardly interacted, infact we didn't interact much after wc. After wc I left for a few months to search for work and returned only in 2024 slightly before world cup 2024.

Our first fight was that cricket is a mantis thread nonsense. Then you blocked me for nearly a year by saying "I dont think I should interact with you" and begged others to ignore me as well lol. Infact I was beefing with dv at that time.

You even messaged me to stop bullying you and interact with others as you have ignored me for good.

Afterwards you one day just decided to unblock during the india vs england game and then after further bullying you reported everyone from bhaag and major for that meena nonsense and pinged moderators 2x.

After that you just became weirder and weirder from Hindi spams and some other daily nonsense that you spout.

Stop trying to rewrite history, I have every single ss. Even the ones where you tried to talk to me about siraj, I called siraj your mother and then you pinged a moderator to stop further bullying lol.

@Devadwal Blocks me for an entire year, Pings 2 moderators to stop bullying, Reports every comment from major, to bhaag for thr meena nonsense in the mughals thread, gets trolled by everyone to the point t that he makes madrassa comments .

But claims he owned me lol

 

[mominsaigol]

This wannabe don't know that poster was talking about Pakistan team.

Mate, ik too much about you already lol. I just keep it reasonably civil for forumn integrity that's all.

Like I said you don't want this fight. It'll end in you reporting, crying, getting clowned again as usual and asking for either my ban or moderator pings.

 

[mominsaigol]

Mate, ik too much about you already lol. I just keep it reasonably civil for forumn integrity that's all.

Like I said you don't want this fight. It'll end in you reporting, crying, getting clowned again as usual and asking for either my ban or moderator pings.

Lol as usual @Devadwal ran away . Looks like i debunked the entire myth.

Was ready to paste all the ss of the events in motion too .

But just for good measure I'll paste this one atleast.

 

[uppercut]

Dear @uppercut,

If your delusions make you sleep better at night, I am happy for you, meanwhile will keep on handing your backside to you..

Others are refuting you for your stupidity in that thread so carry on with the delusions...



This guy thinks that common Indian women and common Pushtun women are physically similar!

And once again, nothing to do with beauty!

As I said, the stupidity of @uppercut Dumbercut is astounding!

As I told you the evidence that you got owned is in the fact that you get bent out of shape in no time while trying to peddle highgrade as some serious fact. And the fragile ego that you have makes you start throwing insults to save face and have group orgy with your lame-ass sidekicks like @mominsaigol who probably cannot add 2 single digit numbers. that is your level. As juvenile and peurile as it gets.​

 

[mominsaigol]

As I told you the evidence that you got owned is in the fact that you get bent out of shape in no time while trying to peddle highgrade bakwaas as some serious fact. And the fragile ego that you have makes you start throwing insults to save face and have group orgy with your lame-ass sidekicks like @mominsaigol who probably cannot add 2 single digit numbers. that is your level. As juvenile and peurile as it gets.​

Atleast get your facts straight. @LordJames and I have hardly interacted before today lol.

So how am I his sidekick? We don't even know each other . This is my 2nd time interacting with him. First time was when I congratulated him on POTW.

This is a big forumn and I can't interact with everyone. Unfortunately I have to interact with idi*ts like you and @Devadwal who have become memes of this forumn.


Not my fault you guys built a sorry reputation for yourself.

 

[uppercut]

Bro I'm not surprised at @uppercut stupidity.

He once tried to mock me by claiming I can't calculate averages. You should have seen his maths skills. Amazing . Mathematician of the Century.

Archimedes just died in his grave.

boy ... it must take a different level of stupidity to take pride in being a bonafide idi*t ... While you're strutting around, crowing about your math like it’s a Nobel in moronics and thinking illiteracy’s your superpower, the rest of us are just watching your open display of the stupidity circus crash and burn. Archimedes isn't just spinning in his grave ... he’s launched into orbit from the sheer stupidity of your math skills pride parade.​

 

[mominsaigol]

When did you own me 24/7 after Asia cup?

I have ss of before asia cup as well supporting aus. But their is no point of sharing ss with a rajistani graduate.

After Asia cup we hardly interacted, infact we didn't interact much after wc. After wc I left for a few months to search for work and returned only in 2024 slightly before world cup 2024.

Our first fight was that cricket is a mantis thread nonsense. Then you blocked me for nearly a year by saying "I dont think I should interact with you" and begged others to ignore me as well lol. Infact I was beefing with dv at that time.

You even messaged me to stop bullying you and interact with others as you have ignored me for good.

Afterwards you one day just decided to unblock during the india vs england game and then after further bullying you reported everyone from bhaag and major for that meena nonsense and pinged moderators 2x.

After that you just became weirder and weirder from Hindi spams and some other daily nonsense that you spout.

Stop trying to rewrite history, I have every single ss. Even the ones where you tried to talk to me about siraj, I called siraj your mother and then you pinged a moderator to stop further bullying lol.

You can answer this @Devadwal not that it matters as I have ss and can copy paste it everywhere for people to clown on you 24/7.

But im am sure a Jai Hind proud Jaipurian can come up with a workaround

 

[LordJames]

Atleast get your facts straight. @LordJames and I have hardly interacted before today lol.

So how am I his sidekick? We don't even know each other . This is my 2nd time interacting with him. First time was when I congratulated him on POTW.

This is a big forumn and I can't interact with everyone. Unfortunately I have to interact with idi*ts like you and @Devadwal who have become memes of this forumn.

One is a foreign usa scum pretending to be patriotic and the other is a jaipurian railway ghantu reject.

Not my fault you guys built a sorry reputation for yourself.

The point made by me repeatedly in Bollywood thread originally and then repeatedly clarified is simply

common Indian women and common Pushtun women are physically not similar!

I didn't say 1 is more beautiful then the other because they are fairer or more petite etc...just said different

This low-IQ then creates an argument that I believe:

1. Muslims have a chip on their shoulder about Bollywood
2. "Muslims" in Bollywood should be excluded from the critique

And writes an essay on the topic which he invented and his mind conjured up!

If we were discussing this on a Chinese forum and someone said Chinese and Pushtun women are physically different, nobody will argue!

Bollywood is ALL FAKE BS and everyone (Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc) are all part of this FAKE stupidity!

Previously, he tried to argue that Shaheed is a concept native to Hinduism and not Islam, he actually tried to argue about the word Shaheed

The argument wasn't that all cultures borrow from each other but he actually argued about the word Shaheed!

The stupidity of this poster knows no bounds and there are no depths to which he won't fall into.

Its scary thinking that our kids share this world with such people, really scary!

 

[mominsaigol]

The point made by me repeatedly in Bollywood thread originally and then repeatedly clarified is simply

common Indian women and common Pushtun women are physically not similar!

I didn't say 1 is more beautiful then the other because they are fairer or more petite etc...just said different

This low-IQ then creates an argument that I believe:

1. Muslims have a chip on their shoulder about Bollywood
2. "Muslims" in Bollywood should be excluded from the critique

And writes an essay on the topic which he invented and his mind conjured up!

If we were discussing this on a Chinese forum and someone said Chinese and Pushtun women are physically different, nobody will argue!

Bollywood is ALL FAKE BS and everyone (Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc) are all part of this FAKE stupidity!

Previously, he tried to argue that Shaheed is a concept native to Hinduism and not Islam, he actually tried to argue about the word Shaheed

The argument wasn't that all cultures borrow from each other but he actually argued about the word Shaheed!

The stupidity of this poster knows no bounds and there are no depths to which he won't fall into.

Its scary thinking that our kids share this world with such people, really scary!

And writes an essay on the topic which he invented and his mind conjured up!

Yeah @uppercut and @jeeteshssaxena did that with me with that made up average story. Tbh I still have no clue what their talking about and from which reference.

I keep asking them and they dont respond lol. @Devadwal does the same.

Very easy to make up stories about others lol and spam insults in order to make yourself feel good.

Theirs a reason I put 11 Idiots in the clown gang list. All 3 that I have mentioned are royal members.

 

[mominsaigol]

When did you own me 24/7 after Asia cup?

I have ss of before asia cup as well supporting aus. But their is no point of sharing ss with a rajistani graduate.

After Asia cup we hardly interacted, infact we didn't interact much after wc. After wc I left for a few months to search for work and returned only in 2024 slightly before world cup 2024.

Our first fight was that cricket is a mantis thread nonsense. Then you blocked me for nearly a year by saying "I dont think I should interact with you" and begged others to ignore me as well lol. Infact I was beefing with dv at that time.

You even messaged me to stop bullying you and interact with others as you have ignored me for good.

Afterwards you one day just decided to unblock during the india vs england game and then after further bullying you reported everyone from bhaag and major for that meena nonsense and pinged moderators 2x.

After that you just became weirder and weirder from Hindi spams and some other daily nonsense that you spout.

Stop trying to rewrite history, I have every single ss. Even the ones where you tried to talk to me about siraj, I called siraj your mother and then you pinged a moderator to stop further bullying lol.

Rumor has it @Devadwal will never respond to this

 

[uppercut]

And writes an essay on the topic which he invented and his mind conjured up!

Yeah @uppercut and @jeeteshssaxena did that with me with that made up average story. Tbh I still have no clue what their talking about and from which reference.

hold on you are saying you didnt get schooled on how to calculate bowling avgs or you did not understand the examples ?

 

[mominsaigol]

hold on you are saying you didnt get schooled on how to calculate bowling avgs or you did not understand the examples ?

I'm stating the event or conversation didn't even happen lol. The 19.4 example I used was an obvious troll, I even used the following . Idk how obvious i could have made it that i was joking .

The reason I made that comment is cause of this nonsense. Since @The Bald Eagle was involved and you are beefing with @LordJames i will put this ss out.



^^ genuis goat maths. 1 apple for 364 days + 50 apples a day avg to 1.14

But according to @uppercut Its 25.5

Archimedes could never come up with such an amazing formula.

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm stating the event or conversation didn't even happen lol. The 19.4 example I used was an obvious troll, I even used the following . Idk how obvious i could have made it that i was joking .

The reason I made that comment is cause of this nonsense. Since @The Bald Eagle was involved and you are beefing with @LordJames i will put this ss out.

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^^ genuis goat maths. 1 apple for 364 days + 50 apples a day avg to 1.14

But according to @uppercut Its 25.5

Archimedes could never come up with such an amazing formula.

Thank god countries like USA, Australia, UK immigration systems or uni systems ask for IELTS.

cause if they asked for Maths instead we'd have 1M+ Indians ejected from their foreign adopted lands

 

[BouncerGuy]

YOU GUYS NEED TO WATCH YOUR POSTS... NO MORE PERSONAL REMARKS AND ABUSIVE STUFF..


ENOUGH

 

[BouncerGuy]

YOU GUYS NEED TO WATCH YOUR POSTS... NO MORE PERSONAL REMARKS AND ABUSIVE STUFF..


ENOUGH

AGAIN

 

[saimayubera]

The great Misbah-Younis era, everyone.

A W/L ratio of merely 1.238



This includes

whitewashes in SL, Aus, SA, NZ as well as drawn series away vs Zimbabwe, another defeat in SL and drawn series at home vs SA (X2), SL, NZ

Shubman Gill in a few months of captaincy has already achieved the apex of what the best Pakistani team of the 21st century did - A drawn series in England lol.
India under Ganguly-Dravid had a better run and no one in India even considers that a great team. It was a good team that laid the foundation for what was to come after but that's it.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Hahah...welcome to the debunking thread...let's see whether you can prove your case against Misbah and Younis...while at the same time worshipping Kohli as your king.

Lets present your case I will respond from time to time...no easy escape now

The great Misbah-Younis era, everyone.

A W/L ratio of merely 1.238

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This includes

whitewashes in SL, Aus, SA, NZ as well as drawn series away vs Zimbabwe, another defeat in SL and drawn series at home vs SA (X2), SL, NZ

Shubman Gill in a few months of captaincy has already achieved the apex of what the best Pakistani team of the 21st century did - A drawn series in England lol.
India under Ganguly-Dravid had a better run and no one in India even considers that a great team. It was a good team that laid the foundation for what was to come after but that's it.

View attachment 158766

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Hahah...welcome to the debunking thread...let's see whether you can prove your case against Misbah and Younis...while at the same time worshipping Kohli as your king.

Lets present your case I will respond from time to time...no easy escape now

But before you @saimayubera embarrass yourself, I will advise you to go through masterclass of @shaz619

Thread 'Virat Kohli vs Misbah-ul-Haq - Who has the greater legacy in Tests?'

Jun 4, 2025

It’s fair to say there is no love lost when it comes my assesment of these two performers; being one of the most objective authorities on the careers of both men, I though it’s a good chance to sit back and examine who had the greater legacy in Tests.

Virat Kohli

- Average 46.85
- Majority of games in India
- Helped re-invent Ishant Sharma and other quicks
- Helped India to no.1 with the home advantage
- Steep decline during the end of his career and quit the toughest format in cricket


Misbah ul Haq

- Average 46.62
- Majority of games away from home
- Was very good at getting the most...

• shaz619

• 

 

[saimayubera]

But before you @saimayubera embarrass yourself, I will advise you to go through masterclass of @shaz619

Thread 'Virat Kohli vs Misbah-ul-Haq - Who has the greater legacy in Tests?'

Jun 4, 2025

It’s fair to say there is no love lost when it comes my assesment of these two performers; being one of the most objective authorities on the careers of both men, I though it’s a good chance to sit back and examine who had the greater legacy in Tests.

Virat Kohli

- Average 46.85
- Majority of games in India
- Helped re-invent Ishant Sharma and other quicks
- Helped India to no.1 with the home advantage
- Steep decline during the end of his career and quit the toughest format in cricket


Misbah ul Haq

- Average 46.62
- Majority of games away from home
- Was very good at getting the most...

• shaz619

• 

Only one that is being embarrassed is people like you, @The Bald Eagle who have to cope with such things while Pakistan keep losing and losing and India keep winning and winning.

Misbah is not even in the contest. Has around 5000 runs and averages 29 in SENA with 1 century. He is not even Azharuddin level player.

Younis is better than Kohli but even then he has less SENA hundreds than Kohli.

Basically, the best Pakistani batsman ever suffers in some parameters when you compare with the likes of Kohli.

And if you compare to the actual A-tier of Indian batting in Tendulkar, Dravid, Gavaskar he falls woefully short.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Only one that is being embarrassed is people like you, @The Bald Eagle who have to cope with such things while Pakistan keep losing and losing and India keep winning and winning.

Misbah is not even in the contest. Has around 5000 runs and averages 29 in SENA with 1 century. He is not even Azharuddin level player.

Younis is better than Kohli but even then he has less SENA hundreds than Kohli.

Basically, the best Pakistani batsman ever suffers in some parameters when you compare with the likes of Kohli.

And if you compare to the actual A-tier of Indian batting in Tendulkar, Dravid, Gavaskar he falls woefully short.

So Younis superior to VK good, and on comparison with Misbah in Test following is a stats based assessment.

Captaincy record: Triumphs away from home, Misbah-ul-Haq 26 win out of 56 (Winning percentage 46.42

Virat Kohli 16 wins out of 37 (Winning percentage 43.24)

Batting average:

VK: 46.85 (Which was once 55.10) in 2019
Misbah: 46.62 (Which was around 33 before becoming PCT captain in 2012)

Weakness:

VK, bowl on 4th to 7th stump anywhere and he will throw his wicket
Misbah: A technically sound batsman with no such glaring weakness

WTC Mace:

VK won it on the back of unbeaten series run in India but bottled WTC final against NZ from a dominant position

Misbah: Won Test mace for Pakistan without playing a single match in Pakistan and even drew Test series against England's top squad (And won at the venue where WTC final occurs).

Retirement and consistency: Got retired forcefully by GG because of abysmal form in his past 2 years in Test format, retired at 36 age

Misbah improved his average and refined himself like a fine wine and ended his career on high with a Test series triumph against Windies. And retired at 42 years of age

On SENA centuries: Virat Kohli scored 13 or 14 centuries and just 2 were in the winning cause (Winning percentage for SENA century ~15 percent)

Misbah scored 1 century in SENA and won the match (winning percentage 100 percent) and if still you can't digest it and doubt his batting skills, he played 3 Tests in India and scored 2 centuries and NONE in the losing cause.


@mominsaigol now just wait and see how someone escapes the scene or do coping by changing the goal posts.

 

[mominsaigol]

So Younis superior to VK good, and on comparison with Misbah in Test following is a stats based assessment.

Captaincy record: Triumphs away from home, Misbah-ul-Haq 26 win out of 56 (Winning percentage 46.42

Virat Kohli 16 wins out of 37 (Winning percentage 43.24)

Batting average:

VK: 46.85 (Which was once 55.10) in 2019
Misbah: 46.62 (Which was around 33 before becoming PCT captain in 2012)

Weakness:

VK, bowl on 4th to 7th stump anywhere and he will throw his wicket
Misbah: A technically sound batsman with no such glaring weakness

WTC Mace:

VK won it on the back of unbeaten series run in India but bottled WTC final against NZ from a dominant position

Misbah: Won Test mace for Pakistan without playing a single match in Pakistan and even drew Test series against England's top squad (And won at the venue where WTC final occurs).

Retirement and consistency: Got retired forcefully by GG because of abysmal form in his past 2 years in Test format, retired at 36 age

Misbah improved his average and refined himself like a fine wine and ended his career on high with a Test series triumph against Windies. And retired at 42 years of age

On SENA centuries: Virat Kohli scored 13 or 14 centuries and just 2 were in the winning cause (Winning percentage for SENA century ~15 percent)

Misbah scored 1 century in SENA and won the match (winning percentage 100 percent)


@mominsaigol now just wait and see how someone escapes the scene or do coping by changing the goal posts.

Or brings in Mukesh Ambani on PP.

 

[uppercut]

But before you @saimayubera embarrass yourself, I will advise you to go through masterclass of @shaz619

Thread 'Virat Kohli vs Misbah-ul-Haq - Who has the greater legacy in Tests?'

Jun 4, 2025

It’s fair to say there is no love lost when it comes my assesment of these two performers; being one of the most objective authorities on the careers of both men, I though it’s a good chance to sit back and examine who had the greater legacy in Tests.

Virat Kohli

- Average 46.85
- Majority of games in India
- Helped re-invent Ishant Sharma and other quicks
- Helped India to no.1 with the home advantage
- Steep decline during the end of his career and quit the toughest format in cricket


Misbah ul Haq

- Average 46.62
- Majority of games away from home
- Was very good at getting the most...

• shaz619

• 

IMHO Anyone thinking of comparing Kohli and Misbah have bigger personal issues to sort out especially if they go on to claim Misbah as a better player

 

[The Bald Eagle]

IMHO Anyone thinking of comparing Kohli and Misbah have bigger personal issues to sort out especially if they go on to claim Misbah as a better player

Then you have Shaz's thread link, please go and present your case there.

 

[saimayubera]

So Younis superior to VK good, and on comparison with Misbah in Test following is a stats based assessment.

Captaincy record: Triumphs away from home, Misbah-ul-Haq 26 win out of 56 (Winning percentage 46.42

Virat Kohli 16 wins out of 37 (Winning percentage 43.24)

Batting average:

VK: 46.85 (Which was once 55.10) in 2019
Misbah: 46.62 (Which was around 33 before becoming PCT captain in 2012)

Weakness:

VK, bowl on 4th to 7th stump anywhere and he will throw his wicket
Misbah: A technically sound batsman with no such glaring weakness

WTC Mace:

VK won it on the back of unbeaten series run in India but bottled WTC final against NZ from a dominant position

Misbah: Won Test mace for Pakistan without playing a single match in Pakistan and even drew Test series against England's top squad (And won at the venue where WTC final occurs).

Retirement and consistency: Got retired forcefully by GG because of abysmal form in his past 2 years in Test format, retired at 36 age

Misbah improved his average and refined himself like a fine wine and ended his career on high with a Test series triumph against Windies. And retired at 42 years of age

On SENA centuries: Virat Kohli scored 13 or 14 centuries and just 2 were in the winning cause (Winning percentage for SENA century ~15 percent)

Misbah scored 1 century in SENA and won the match (winning percentage 100 percent) and if still you can't digest it and doubt his batting skills, he played 3 Tests in India and scored 2 centuries and NONE in the losing cause.


@mominsaigol now just wait and see how someone escapes the scene or do coping by changing the goal posts.

Lol no you are the one changing goalposts and doing selective analysis. Let me give an actual stats based analysis.

First of all you are straight up lying.

Captaincy:

Misbah:
Away from home: 13 of 32 (40%)
Away excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh: 8 of 25 (32%)

Kohli never captained vs Zim away and only one in Bangladesh which was a rain affected draw

Batting average:

Misbah: 29.46 in SENA with 1 century
Kohli: 42.08 in SENA with 12 centuries

Weakness:

Misbah: Bounce and seam hence average of 16 (lol) in Aus and 22.50 in SA

WTC Mace:

Misbah: Only held it for one month. Never made WTC final.
Kohli: Held it for 3+ years. Drew series in England against a better team than Misbah's did (and won in the venue where WTC final is held). Also won in Australia where Misbah was whitewashed.


Retirement:

Kohli: Scored a match winning century at Perth in his last series
Misbah: Got whitewashed in NZ and Aus before being made to retire.

SENA centuries:

Kohli: 14 with centuries in all 4 of SENA
Misbah: 1 with tailender stats in SA and Aus

 

[saimayubera]

Actually I was wrong. Kohli is better than Younis using @The Bald Eagle 's parameters.

Captaincy:

Younis:
Won only one match as captain (0.11%)
Away from home: won nothing, 0%

Kohli:
Won 40 matches as captain
Away from home: 16

Batting average:

Younis: 39.14 in SENAW with 6 centuries
Kohli: 42.36 in SENAW with 14 centuries

Weakness:

Younis: Non flat pitches outside Asia hence an average below 40

WTC Mace:

Younis: Never held it as won only one match in career.
Kohli: Held it for 3+ years.

Retirement:

Kohli: Scored a match winning century at Perth in his last series
Misbah: Got whitewashed in NZ and Aus before being made to retire.

SENAW centuries:

Kohli: 14 with centuries in all 5 of SENAW
Younis: 6, less than half

So the great Younis Khan aka UAE Khan is inferior to Kohli. He was a horrible captain and couldn't bat outside of Asia.

 

[saimayubera]

Lol, UAE Khan really struggled outside Asia. Record similar to the likes of Rahane and Azharuddin. Rishab Pant in his 5 year career has managed more runs and as many centuries as Younis in his 17 years lol.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol no you are the one changing goalposts and doing selective analysis. Let me give an actual stats based analysis.

First of all you are straight up lying.

Captaincy:

Misbah:
Away from home: 13 of 32 (40%)
Away excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh: 8 of 25 (32%)

Kohli never captained vs Zim away and only one in Bangladesh which was a rain affected draw

Batting average:

Misbah: 29.46 in SENA with 1 century
Kohli: 42.08 in SENA with 12 centuries

Weakness:

Misbah: Bounce and seam hence average of 16 (lol) in Aus and 22.50 in SA

WTC Mace:

Misbah: Only held it for one month. Never made WTC final.
Kohli: Held it for 3+ years. Drew series in England against a better team than Misbah's did (and won in the venue where WTC final is held). Also won in Australia where Misbah was whitewashed.


Retirement:

Kohli: Scored a match winning century at Perth in his last series
Misbah: Got whitewashed in NZ and Aus before being made to retire.

SENA centuries:

Kohli: 14 with centuries in all 4 of SENA
Misbah: 1 with tailender stats in SA and Aus

Lol your reply this time, is not worth my time...just a pack of lies ...So come up with a better retort as you yourself has destroyed your case. And the very fact, that you had to backtrack from your earlier eulogy and acknowledgement of Younis Khan is worth laughing

For instance Kohli never scored 14 centuries in SENA,
Secondly, by your logic Kohli was awful against Australia in their den as Rahane was the main protagonist in 2021 and 2017 side was just a depleted and demotivated side post sandpaper incident but Kohli always received the credit and also was master of scoring centuries in losing cause in SENA

 

[SherWaqar]

Some people still believe 5G masts cause cancer

 

[saimayubera]

Lol your reply this time, is not worth my time...just a pack of lies ...So come up with a better retort as you yourself has destroyed your case. And the very fact, that you had to backtrack from your earlier eulogy and acknowledgement of Younis Khan is worth laughing

For instance Kohli never scored 14 centuries in SENA,
Secondly, by your logic Kohli was awful against Australia in their den as Rahane was the main protagonist in 2021 and 2017 side was just a depleted and demotivated side post sandpaper incident but Kohli always received the credit and also was master of scoring centuries in losing cause in SENA

I didn't backtrack. Just used your lahori logic.

Kohli won series in Aus as captain in 2018 which no Pakistani has ever achieved. Plus he has a match winning century in Perth. Younis never won a match in Australia.

Another self goal.

0-4 now. That's more than the Asia cup scoreline. Not same as the 0-8 losses to India streak you have got going since 2022 though. Don't worry you will surpass that too.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I didn't backtrack. Just used your lahori logic.

Kohli won series in Aus as captain in 2018 which no Pakistani has ever achieved. Plus he has a match winning century in Perth. Younis never won a match in Australia.

Another self goal.

0-4 now. That's more than the Asia cup scoreline. Not same as the 0-8 losses to India streak you have got going since 2022 though. Don't worry you will surpass that too.

Your posts aren't that cogent as it initially appeared that's why I am losing interest.

Anyways just for the sake of argument, all you have done is thrown lies, dodge my simple questions and spun your Varapao logic

*Lies
1. VK has 14 SENA centuries

2. On Misbah away record
And following is Misbah's record before his last series in Windies

Captaincy:

Misbah:
Away from home: 13 of 32 (40%)
Away excluding Zimbabwe and Bangladesh: 8 of 25 (32%)

3. Younis and Misbah retired after Aus and NZ series although it was your Kohli, who was kicked out by GG forcibly

VARAPAO LOGIC EXAMPLES
*Invention of term SENAW
* Breakdown of away win records into away records vs Zimbabwe, Bangladesh while at the same time coining SENAW
* Comparing VK captaincy vs Younis instead of Misbah lol just like some PCT fan try to downplay Sehawag by comparing his captaincy stats with Inzi or Misbah.
*Celebrating SENA

INSTANCES OF DODGING QUESTIONS
* Who has higher percentage of SENA winning centuries, Virat or Misbah and Younis?
* Did VK won mace because of home dominance or wins away from home?
To be continued....

 

[saimayubera]

Your posts aren't that cogent as it initially appeared that's why I am losing interest.

Anyways just for the sake of argument, all you have done is thrown lies, dodge my simple questions and spun your Varapao logic

*Lies
1. VK has 14 SENA centuries

2. On Misbah away record
And following is Misbah's record before his last series in Windies


View attachment 158919
3. Younis and Misbah retired after Aus and NZ series although it was your Kohli, who was kicked out by GG forcibly

VARAPAO LOGIC EXAMPLES
*Invention of term SENAW
* Breakdown of away win records into away records vs Zimbabwe, Bangladesh while at the same time coining SENAW
* Comparing VK captaincy vs Younis instead of Misbah lol just like some PCT fan try to downplay Sehawag by comparing his captaincy stats with Inzi or Misbah.
*Celebrating SENA

INSTANCES OF DODGING QUESTIONS
* Who has higher percentage of SENA winning centuries, Virat or Misbah and Younis?
* Did VK won mace because of home dominance or wins away from home?
To be continued....

That Misbah "away" record includes Pakistan's "home" UAE matches lolololol. That's why it is called "outside home" lol.

He only won 13 matches "away". Lost 15. W/L - 0.86




Take out Bang and Zim it's 8 matches lololol. Lost 14. W/L 0.57



VK won more series away from home compared to Misbah. Series win in Australia where Msibah was whitewashed. Matches won in SA where Misbah was whitewashed. Won all series in SL where Misbah was whitewashed in 2014. Won all series in WI where Misbah drew 1-1 in 2011.

Won all series at home while Misbah drew to the likes of SA twice, NZ, SL etc. Even lost a home test to WI.

It was Misbah who won mace because of UAE dominance and the lost it in one month as they got whitewashed in NZ and Aus.

SENAW has achieved stuff in cricket. You are really considering Zimbabwe on same level. But then Misbah couldn't win there and they also defeated Wasim-Waqar at home in the 90s (similar to how Bangladesh defeated Pak in 2024) so maybe for Pakistan countries like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are big teams on their level.

Another two self goals. 0-6 now lol.

Keep on going. Will soon be 0-8 like Pakistan's record.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol @saimayubera mate by the same Varapao logic, how many winning SENA centuries has VK, Misbah and Younis has scored will you FINALLY answer my long-standing query? And percentage of SENA Winning centuries too. Good luck

And your above query will reply later when have luxury of time.

Post in thread 'On what type of pitches can Pakistan consistently win at home?'

Oct 23, 2025

So? Joe Root took fifer against India

He didn't outbowl India's spinners. He lost that match and that series.

• saimayubera

• 

 

[saimayubera]

Lol @saimayubera mate by the same Varapao logic, how many winning SENA centuries has VK, Misbah and Younis has scored will you FINALLY answer my long-standing query? And percentage of SENA Winning centuries too. Good luck

Post in thread 'On what type of pitches can Pakistan consistently win at home?'

Oct 23, 2025

So? Joe Root took fifer against India

He didn't outbowl India's spinners. He lost that match and that series.

• saimayubera

• 

Kohli 2

Younis 2

Misbah 1

Why percentage though? Makes no sense. Younis/Misbah were just not good enough to hit that many centuries.

Using your percentage logic, Siraj has 4 5fers in SENA, all of them match winning - 100% SENA winning 5fers.

Better than Wasim, Waqar, Imran?

Jaiswal has 2 match winning SENA centuries as well and his "percentage" is higher than Younis. Better than Younis?

Gill has 2 match winning SENA centuries as well and his "percentage" is higher than Younis. Better than Younis?

Another self goal.

0-7 now or 0-8?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Kohli 2

Younis 2

Misbah 1

Why percentage though? Makes no sense. Younis/Misbah were just not good enough to hit that many centuries.

Using your percentage logic, Siraj has 4 5fers in SENA, all of them match winning - 100% SENA winning 5fers.

Better than Wasim, Waqar, Imran?

Jaiswal has 2 match winning SENA centuries as well and his "percentage" is higher than Younis. Better than Younis?

Gill has 2 match winning SENA centuries as well and his "percentage" is higher than Younis. Better than Younis?

Another self goal.

0-7 now or 0-8?

Hahah...then why you downplayed Joe Root's 5 fifer @RizwanT20Champ ?

And yes more winning 5fers or 100s clearly is a good metric of a player whether he is an individual stat padder or team guy...hahah..now plz answer with percentage... appreciate

 

[saimayubera]

Hahah...then why you downplayed Joe Root's 5 fifer @RizwanT20Champ ?

And yes more winning 5fers or 100s clearly is a good metric of a player whether he is an individual stat padder or team guy...hahah..now plz answer with percentage... appreciate

I didn't downplay it. Said he didn't outperform Indian spinners unlike Warrican/Muthuswamy. Axar had two 5fers that match.

Siraj has 100% winning 5fers in SENA.

Akash Deep also has 100% winning 5fers in SENA.

Please give percentage of Imran, Wasim, Waqar. Let us know if they are stat padder or team guy.

Now plz answer with percentage... appreciate

0-8 now which is Pakistan's streak.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I didn't downplay it. Said he didn't outperform Indian spinners unlike Warrican/Muthuswamy. Axar had two 5fers that match.

Siraj has 100% winning 5fers in SENA.

Akash Deep also has 100% winning 5fers in SENA.

Please give percentage of Imran, Wasim, Waqar. Let us know if they are stat padder or team guy.

Now plz answer with percentage... appreciate

0-8 now which is Pakistan's streak.

Lol let's compare your goat with PCT legend IK

===
IK vs Bumrah

 

[saimayubera]

Lol let's compare your goat with PCT legend IK

===
IK vs Bumrah
View attachment 158941

Imran (and Wasim) both have worse averages than Bumrah?

Another self goal. 0-9.

Let's see won matches. Oops. Looks like Bumrah has more wickets at a better average and SR with more 5fers compared to Imran lol.

Bumrah is better than all the Pak bowlers in wins AND in losses. He is just better.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Imran (and Wasim) both have worse averages than Bumrah?

Another self goal. 0-9.

Let's see won matches. Oops. Looks like Bumrah has more wickets at a better average and SR with more 5fers compared to Imran lol.

Bumrah is better than all the Pak bowlers in wins AND in losses. He is just better.


View attachment 158944

Lol you seems to be in haste all the time...lol own goal specialist.

As per this data, IK has 3 10fers and Bumrah none -ZerO...lol it's just like saying a better with more half centuries is better than one who has both centuries and half centuries to his name.

Secondly, IK has better wickets per innings figure 3.24 than Bumrah's 3.16

Thirdly, he has a better economy, fourthly BBI figures, fifthly BBM figures...but sir he has better avg ...OK so if by your Varapao logic avg is the ultimate metric of being GOAT, then below post contains another food for thought for you

 

[The Bald Eagle]

That Misbah "away" record includes Pakistan's "home" UAE matches lolololol. That's why it is called "outside home" lol.

He only won 13 matches "away". Lost 15. W/L - 0.86

View attachment 158922


Take out Bang and Zim it's 8 matches lololol. Lost 14. W/L 0.57

View attachment 158923

VK won more series away from home compared to Misbah. Series win in Australia where Msibah was whitewashed. Matches won in SA where Misbah was whitewashed. Won all series in SL where Misbah was whitewashed in 2014. Won all series in WI where Misbah drew 1-1 in 2011.

Won all series at home while Misbah drew to the likes of SA twice, NZ, SL etc. Even lost a home test to WI.

It was Misbah who won mace because of UAE dominance and the lost it in one month as they got whitewashed in NZ and Aus.

SENAW has achieved stuff in cricket. You are really considering Zimbabwe on same level. But then Misbah couldn't win there and they also defeated Wasim-Waqar at home in the 90s (similar to how Bangladesh defeated Pak in 2024) so maybe for Pakistan countries like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are big teams on their level.

Another two self goals. 0-6 now lol.

Keep on going. Will soon be 0-8 like Pakistan's record.

Lol as per your above post VK has an away avg of 58.68 away from home in won matches while Misbah has 63.88

So according to your Varapao logic, my friend does Average decides the winner now??

To be continued....

 

[saimayubera]

Lol you seems to be in haste all the time...lol own goal specialist.

As per this data, IK has 3 10fers and Bumrah none -ZerO...lol it's just like saying a better with more half centuries is better than one who has both centuries and half centuries to his name.

Secondly, IK has better wickets per innings figure 3.24 than Bumrah's 3.16

Thirdly, he has a better economy, fourthly BBI figures, fifthly BBM figures...but sir he has better avg ...OK so if by your Varapao logic avg is the ultimate metric of being GOAT, then below post contains another food for thought for you

5fer is the 100 equivalent.

10fer is the 200 equivalent.

You are the one who is now changing goalposts again by saying 5fer is 50 equivalent lol.

Bumrah has the better average, better SR and more 5fers. The ACTUAL figures that matter. Not random stuff like best economy (in test cricket lol), BBI, BBM figures lol.

0-11 now?

 

[saimayubera]

Lol as per your above post VK has an away avg of 58.68 away from home in won matches while Misbah has 63.88

So according to your Varapao logic, my friend does Average decides the winner now??

To be continued....

Sample size matters too.

You know who has 100% winning record in SENA centuries? Rohit Sharma.

Is he now better than Saeed Anwar?

And Misbah's record in won matches in SENA is 35.37 lol. Kohli's is 42.68.

Lahori logic fails again.

0-12 now.

To be continued...

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Hahah...then why you downplayed Joe Root's 5 fifer @RizwanT20Champ ?

And yes more winning 5fers or 100s clearly is a good metric of a player whether he is an individual stat padder or team guy...hahah..now plz answer with percentage... appreciate

This is SaimAyub era logic. I will have a one on one with this person and all debates can be put to rest before he runs away. He was barking about H2H record and 3-0 in Asia Cup and I told him we still lead India 88-80 LIFETIME and he ran away.

 

[saimayubera]

This is SaimAyub era logic. I will have a one on one with this person and all debates can be put to rest before he runs away. He was barking about H2H record and 3-0 in Asia Cup and I told him we still lead India 88-80 LIFETIME and he ran away.

You are the one who ran away.

And I replied which I'll do again.

That 88 consists of useless bilaterals and Kitply cups.

World Cups, the pinnacle of the sport it is 15-1,

 

[The Bald Eagle]

5fer is the 100 equivalent.

10fer is the 200 equivalent.

You are the one who is now changing goalposts again by saying 5fer is 50 equivalent lol.

Bumrah has the better average, better SR and more 5fers. The ACTUAL figures that matter. Not random stuff like best economy (in test cricket lol), BBI, BBM figures lol.

0-11 now?

Lol mate, you are a master of sinking your own ship. End of debate as per Varapao logic

Above you yourself called AVERAGE the decisive metric now answer in YES/NO who is greater IK or your goat Bumrah?? Below figures in away ENA nations as South Africa didn't had a Test side in IK's era


@RizwanT20Champ @mominsaigol

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

You are the one who ran away.

And I replied which I'll do again.

That 88 consists of useless bilaterals and Kitply cups.

World Cups, the pinnacle of the sport it is 15-1,

Every Pakstan India match is important 88-80! Biggest thrashing in WC and CT belong to us as well.

 

[saimayubera]

Lol mate, you are a master of sinking your own ship. End of debate as per Varapao logic

Above you yourself called AVERAGE the decisive metric now answer in YES/NO who is greater IK or your goat Bumrah?? Below figures in away ENA nations as South Africa didn't had a Test side in IK's era
View attachment 159041

@RizwanT20Champ @mominsaigol

Lol why no West Indies?

Bumrah played far stronger Eng and Aus sides than Imran. Aus and England were horrible in the 80s. India drew two series in Aus in the 80s and won in England. And India were poor in the 80s.

To even it out WI should be there.

End of debate as per Lahori logic.



0-12

 

[saimayubera]

Every Pakstan India match is important 88-80! Biggest thrashing in WC and CT belong to us as well.

Pakstanis like to tell themselves that to keep themselves happy. But Kitply cup not as important as WC.

Biggest thrashing in ODI WC and AC (both ODI and T20) belongs to India as well.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Pakstanis like to tell themselves that to keep themselves happy. But Kitply cup not as important as WC.

Biggest thrashing in ODI WC and AC (both ODI and T20) belongs to India as well.

There was no thrashing ever in ODI WC and none of them were finals. 88-80! Nothing you can do about it.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Lol why no West Indies?

Bumrah played far stronger Eng and Aus sides than Imran. Aus and England were horrible in the 80s. India drew two series in Aus in the 80s and won in England. And India were poor in the 80s.

To even it out WI should be there.

End of debate as per Lahori logic.

View attachment 159060

0-12

Lol what a joke, you have lost it fella...lol bringing in West Indies (of modern times) to save his GOAT....Lol O yes Brandon King was much much greater than poor Viv Richards @mominsaigol @RizwanT20Champ lol man you are clutching at straws now...End of Varapao era

 

[saimayubera]

Lol what Idiocracy, you have lost it fella...lol bringing in West Indies (of modern times) to save his GOAT....Lol O yes Brandon King was much much greater than poor Viv Richards @mominsaigol @RizwanT20Champ lol man you are clutching to straws now...End of Varapao era

Yeah lol and do the same for England/Australia in the 80s lol who you have included to save your GOAT.

Kim Hughes was much greater than poor Steve Smith lol.

David Gower was much greater than Joe Root lol.

Both Root/Smith are greater than Viv in test cricket btw.

You are the one clutching at straws.

End of Lahori logic era.

0-13 now

 

[saimayubera]

There was no thrashing ever in ODI WC and none of them were finals. 88-80! Nothing you can do about it.

There have been many thrashings in ODI WC. 2023 was one when target was chased in 30 overs. 2019 and 2015 were others.

And don't worry, the Indian team is doing plenty about it.

3 years ago it was 88-72.

3 years later it will be 88-88.

3 years after that 88-96 lol.