The Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Sidilicious]

Russia offers free sperm freezing to soldiers sent to Ukraine
Russia’s health ministry will provide financial support for sperm freezing to soldiers sent to fight in Ukraine

Russian troops who have been mobilised to fight in Ukraine will have the right to get their sperm frozen for free in cryobanks, Russia’s state news agency TASS has reported.

Citing Igor Trunov, chairman of the Russian Union of Lawyers, TASS reported on Wednesday that Russia’s health ministry responded to his appeal for budgetary assistance for soldiers who want to avail themselves of such services.

...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...t-to-ukraine-entitled-to-sperm-freezing-media

Lol. So Russians have accepted that their soldiers are at significant risk of not coming back?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Do you only post Russian daily updates? ha ha

As you may have noticed almost all the links, reports posted on this thread are from western sources, so its good to have the alternative view which is more accurate than the BBC.

Lol. So Russians have accepted that their soldiers are at significant risk of not coming back?

This is a huge war, so many have died. Even the EU, US Generals have admitted more than 100k Ukrainian troops have perished, which means the real number would be far higher. Russia have lost many too but about 1/4 of Ukraine's losses.

 

[Gilly]

As you may have noticed almost all the links, reports posted on this thread are from western sources, so its good to have the alternative view which is more accurate than the BBC.



This is a huge war, so many have died. Even the EU, US Generals have admitted more than 100k Ukrainian troops have perished, which means the real number would be far higher. Russia have lost many too but about 1/4 of Ukraine's losses.

The reports are that Russia has lost 103,000 soldiers.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The reports are that Russia has lost 103,000 soldiers.

Reports from whom? Russia has not lost anywhere near the Ukrainians.

What is your view of the demands from women/wives/mothers asking where their fellas are?

 

[Reddy]

Today's briefing:

️Over 80 Ukrainian soldiers killed in Donetsk Republic in past 24 hours.

️Russian forces kill over 70 Ukrainian troops and foreign mercenaries in Donetsk Republic.

️2 US-supplied M777 howitzers and 1 German-suppled FH-70 howitzer destroyed in Donetsk Republic, which had been used to strike residential areas of Donetsk city.

️Russian forces have destroyed 950 Ukrainian multiple rocket launcher systems since beginning of special military operation.

 

[cpleigh]

How about Ukraine is on the brink of liberating kremina and have routed Russians in bakhmut.

When Kremina is done, Russia's defensive line will collapse in luhansk

 

[daytrader]

Russia fires 120 missiles from air and sea - Ukraine

An air raid alert has been issued across Ukraine, as a fresh wave of Russian missiles targets major cities.

Presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said more than 120 missiles had been launched at the population and civilian infrastructure.

At least two explosions were heard in the capital Kyiv, but it was unclear whether these were caused by missile strikes or air defences.

Blasts were also heard in the cities of Kharkiv, Odesa, Lviv and Zhytomyr.

The regional leader of the southern province of Odesa, Maksym Marchenko, spoke of a "massive missile attack on Ukraine".

The Ukrainian Air Force said Russia was attacking the country from "various directions with air and sea-based cruise missiles". It added that a number of Kamikaze drones had also been used.

...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64114784

 

[cpleigh]

Jesus Christ.... do the Russians EVER learn???

Lobbying missiles won't work, hasn't worked and only weakens themselves.

All very pointless at a time when their finance minister has admitted the Oil price cap is hurting them and the Gov is stealing the citizens money to make up for it.

 

[bones]

Presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said more than 120 missiles had been launched at the population and civilian infrastructure.

This is impossible because the very same MSM sources and others have been telling us the Russians ran out of missiles in June.

I wonder how many of the 120 they shot down, maybe 134 like they claimed previously?

 

[cpleigh]

69 fired, 54 shot down.

 

[Reddy]

The amount of missile hits and explosions in Ukraine is massive, the videos are all over Telegram, MSM is laughably posting propaganda from Ukraine.

 

[cpleigh]

you realise a lot of explosions are caused by missiles being intercepted don't you?

 

[Reddy]

Explosions heard in Kiev. As well as in Zhytomyr, Central Ukraine, Odessa, South Ukraine, and Sumy region, North Ukraine.

blackouts in Odessa and several Ukrainian regions as a result of Russian strikes.

 

[Reddy]

You do realise I am talking about explosions and smoke coming from infrastructure facilities and buildings not interception which is anyway small and overhyped by Ukrainians and Western MSM.

 

[cpleigh]

i've seen the said videos. The effectifness of these Russian strikes are becoming less and less.

Its pure desperation now, they know they dont have long left. Soon the Patriot system will be there and these attacks will stop.

BTW.... if you follow Russian Telegram channels so much... do you want to post what Igor Strelkov or Girkin or his other aliases are saying? (if you don't knpow who he is look him up)

 

[sweep_shot]

Russia fires 120 missiles from air and sea - Ukraine

An air raid alert has been issued across Ukraine, as a fresh wave of Russian missiles targets major cities.

Presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak said more than 120 missiles had been launched at the population and civilian infrastructure.

At least two explosions were heard in the capital Kyiv, but it was unclear whether these were caused by missile strikes or air defences.

Blasts were also heard in the cities of Kharkiv, Odesa, Lviv and Zhytomyr.

The regional leader of the southern province of Odesa, Maksym Marchenko, spoke of a "massive missile attack on Ukraine".

The Ukrainian Air Force said Russia was attacking the country from "various directions with air and sea-based cruise missiles". It added that a number of Kamikaze drones had also been used.

...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64114784

According to some, Russia had no more missiles.

Russia is proving them wrong.

 

[Reddy]

After Missile hits in Western Ukraine (explosions are reported in the Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk regions), blackouts began in a number of cities.

There are also missile strikes in Odessa, Ochakov, Zaporozhye (region), Kharkov region. In Odessa, the electricity and water were turned off. Cellular and internet outages are also in effect.

Since the beginning of the attack, there have been reports that in addition to attacks on infrastructure, the Russian Aerospace Forces are hitting the positions of Ukrainian air defense crews in a number of areas (previously it was reported about the defeat of air defense systems in Odessa, destroyed after they worked on a false/dummy target).

 

[Reddy]

Today's briefing:

️ Russian forces continue their offensive in Donetsk Republic, capturing new positions and strategic frontiers, ELIMINATING 180 Ukrainian soldiers

️ 2 Ukrainian sabotage groups DESTROYED in Donetsk and Zaporozhye region

️Russian forces DESTROYED 2 US-supplied M-777 howitzers in Kharkov, East Ukraine.

️ Russian forces destroyed US-supplied HIMARS rocket launcher systems in South of Donetsk.

 

[cpleigh]

Russia hasn't destroyed a single HIMAR system... That's a blatant lie.

 

[daytrader]

Today's briefing:

️ Russian forces continue their offensive in Donetsk Republic, capturing new positions and strategic frontiers, ELIMINATING 180 Ukrainian soldiers

️ 2 Ukrainian sabotage groups DESTROYED in Donetsk and Zaporozhye region

️Russian forces DESTROYED 2 US-supplied M-777 howitzers in Kharkov, East Ukraine.

️ Russian forces destroyed US-supplied HIMARS rocket launcher systems in South of Donetsk.

Kindly always quote sources otherwise we will have to delete

 

[daytrader]

Drones send Kyiv residents to shelter

• Kyiv residents have been urged to head to air raid shelters as sirens wailed across the city, a day after Russia carried out the biggest aerial assault since it invaded in February.
• President Vladimir Putin says he is expecting his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, to visit Moscow in the spring as the two leaders meet via video link and discuss Russian-Chinese relations.
• Britain says it has given Ukraine more than 1,000 metal detectors and 100 kits to deactivate bombs to help clear minefields in the latest instance of military support.
• Moldova’s president expresses hopes that the crisis-hit country would join the European Union before 2030, as it strives to wean itself off Russian gas over the Ukraine war.

Al-Jazeera

 

[Reddy]

Kindly always quote sources otherwise we will have to delete

The Source is Russian Ministry of defence, None of the propaganda merchants from MSM will post these updates. According to MSM Russia ran out of Missiles six months ago.

 

[Reddy]

16 out of 18 French Caesar Howitzer self-propelled guns delivered to Ukraine in DESPERATE need of repair, reports French Daily Le Figaro.

 

[Gilly]

The Source is Russian Ministry of defence, None of the propaganda merchants from MSM will post these updates. According to MSM Russia ran out of Missiles six months ago.

When you post updates from Russian Ministry of Defence could you also include the Russian losses also.

 

[bones]

16 out of 18 French Caesar Howitzer self-propelled guns delivered to Ukraine in DESPERATE need of repair, reports French Daily Le Figaro.

That is exactly what I was saying 6 months ago. Providing these weapons is all fine and dandy but how are you going to maintain supply to them? How are you going to maintain them? How are you going to repair them?

The truth is they can't do it on the frontlines, they don't have the trained resources, so it's either left rotting or sent back to Poland to repair. The Russians using all their own equipment with trained resources don't have anywhere near the same issue.

M1777 Howitzers
Caesers
HIMARS
NASAMS
Patriot
Abrams
Gerpards

All of these items are a mix and match of NATO's warehouses that the Ukranians have very little training with.

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing:

Yesterday's strikes inflicted MASSIVE damage on military command facilities and energy systems of Ukraine

️The production and repair of Ukrainian military equipment, and the transfer of military reserves from the West of Ukraine were stopped, supply of Western weapons was blocked.

️Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Ukrainian MiG-29 aircraft and 2 Mi-8 helicopters.

️ Russian troops ELIMINATED 60 Ukrainian troops in Kharkov, East Ukraine after destroying their military positions.

️2 US-made AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar stations were destroyed in Donetsk Republic (ex-Ukraine).

️More than 90 Ukrainian servicemen ELIMINATED in Donetsk.

️One radar of Ukrainian S-300 air defence missile system has been destroyed near Lebedin (Sumy region).

Full briefing: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12449970@egNews

 

[cpleigh]

That Russian briefing is impressive... They have downed 355 Ukrainian planes!

Ukraine had just over 100 at the start of the war.

Why post such blatant lies?...

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing:

1) Russian troops liberate settlement of Dorozhnyanka in the Zaporozhye region

2) Up to 140 Ukrainian soldiers KILLED, 5 tanks DESTROYED in Lugansk Republic

3) In Kupyansk direction, attacks launched by artillery and Army Aviation have resulted in the neutralisation of three company tactical groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Timkovka, Kislovka, and Novosyolovskoye (Kharkov region).

Over 50 Ukrainian personnel, two armoured fighting vehicles, and three pickups have been eliminated.

4) Attacks launched by high-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces have resulted in the neutralisation of three provisional bases of foreign mercenaries near Krasniy Liman and Chervonaya Dibrova (Donetsk People's Republic).

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12450064@egNews

 

[Gilly]

Today's Briefing:

1) Russian troops liberate settlement of Dorozhnyanka in the Zaporozhye region

2) Up to 140 Ukrainian soldiers KILLED, 5 tanks DESTROYED in Lugansk Republic

3) In Kupyansk direction, attacks launched by artillery and Army Aviation have resulted in the neutralisation of three company tactical groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Timkovka, Kislovka, and Novosyolovskoye (Kharkov region).

Over 50 Ukrainian personnel, two armoured fighting vehicles, and three pickups have been eliminated.

4) Attacks launched by high-precision armament of Russian Aerospace Forces have resulted in the neutralisation of three provisional bases of foreign mercenaries near Krasniy Liman and Chervonaya Dibrova (Donetsk People's Republic).

https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12450064@egNews

Russia suffered no losses, very impressive.

 

[Reddy]

Massive Missile attacks again today, Kiev was hit in the city centre !!

A hotel which hosts Foreign NATO advisers, intelligence etc was DESTROYED !! The MSM propaganda merchants will soon start printing that journalists have died etc to deflect.

 

[Reddy]

In Kramatorsk, they have struck a cluster of AFU missiles in an industrial zone, where equipment, ammunition, and repair workshops are stored.

One of the airfields in Kiev was destroyed, words from local: "Sorry I can't be more specific. There was a whistle, we saw a rocket, it hit the Kyiv airfield exactly. And only then did the air defense fly. I have no words. Just complete Scums! [Russians]"

 

[Reddy]

The HIMARS that was firing at Donetsk was destroyed. In addition to it, 2 Grad MLRS vehicles, as well as a 2C1 Gvozdika SAU, were destroyed near Kostyantynivka - Russian Ministry of Defence.

 

[bones]

The MSM propaganda merchants will soon start printing that journalists have died etc to deflect.

Or they they will type their common statement of Ukrainian foces intercept 95 out of 95 missiles.

Followed by - The debris of the intercepted missiles damaged energy infrastructure but it was clear civilians were the target.

 

[Reddy]

Vengeance Strikes: New Year's Special -- Update as of December 31, 2022, 4:30 PM ET

On the eve of the New Year, Russia's Missile strikes resumed, and an air raid alert was announced throughout Ukraine. The authorities of a number of regions have confirmed explosions in cities, including the capital Kyiv and Kharkov, after which the power was turned off. The regional Ukrainian authorities have not specified which objects were hit.

At the moment we know about Missile hits in :

— Khmelnytsky
– Kyiv (Solomensky, Pechersky and Goloseevsky districts)
— Kyiv region
— Kharkiv region
— Vinnytsia region
— Odessa
— Dnepropetrovsk region
— Nikolaev
— Zhytomyr region
— Ternopil region
— Zaporozhye

️Power outages in:
— Kyiv
— Kyiv region
— Kharkov
— Kharkiv region

 

[James]

Ukraine shot down 45 Russian drones overnight as the country rang in the New Year, the air force said on Sunday.

The leaders of warring Ukraine and Russia have promised victory for their respective nations in their New Year speeches, talking about gratitude, pain and duty.

Al Jazeera

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:


️ 68 artillery units NEUTRILIZED at their firing positions, manpower, and military equipment DESTROYED in 102 areas.

️ 2 Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled howitzers, used for shelling residential areas DESTROYED.

️160 Ukrainian soldiers and 6 Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups ELIMINATED.

️2 Ukrainian D-20 howitzers DESTROYED near Nevskoye, Lugansk Republic.

️Russian air defenses destroyed 15 Ukrainian drones.

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️Armed Forces of Ukraine struck mobilized military of the Russian Armed Forces in Makeevka, Donetsk Republic (DPR), killing 63 Russian military.

️Relatives and friends of the servicemen who died will be provided with all the necessary assistance and support;

️Russian Aerospace Forces hit a point of deployment of foreign legions in the DPR and the Kharkov regions, more than 70 foreign mercenaries were destroyed;

️Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 40 people in the DPR as a result heavy shelling by the Russian Armed Forces;

️RF Armed Forces destroyed two US-made M777 artillery systems in firing positions in the DPR;

️RF Armed Forces destroyed a Polish-made Krab self-propelled artillery mount in the Kherson region;

️The Russian Armed Forces destroyed more than 40 Ukrainian soldiers in the Krasnoliman direction; and 30 Ukrainian soldiers in the Kupyansk direction;

️The RF Armed Forces defeated the 13th and 95th air assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the LPR and DPR;

️Russian troops destroyed fuel storage facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Dnepropetrovsk;

️Russian missilemen destroyed two weapons depots and a fuel storage facility of the 102nd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region;

️Russian air defense systems shot down 15 Ukrainian drones in the LPR, DPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions in a day.

 

[90MPH]

Ukraine is claiming 400 Russian troops have been killed in a massive strike on an army military installation in Donetsk.

The Russian military who almost never acknowledge any of their dead or missing have this time confirmed 63 killed.

Looking at the photos of the destruction it’s safe to say hundreds of Russians were most likely killed.

Reading all the propaganda above you would have thought everything was going rosy for them - obviously that is not the case at all.

 

[SalimBhai]

Ukraine is claiming 400 Russian troops have been killed in a massive strike on an army military installation in Donetsk.

The Russian military who almost never acknowledge any of their dead or missing have this time confirmed 63 killed.

Looking at the photos of the destruction it’s safe to say hundreds of Russians were most likely killed.

Reading all the propaganda above you would have thought everything was going rosy for them - obviously that is not the case at all.

Ukrainians have got some fight left in them . I was on vacation now in republic of Georgia and Azerbaijan. Both countries full of able bodied Russian men who don’t want to fight Putin’s war.

 

[cpleigh]

Ukraine is claiming 400 Russian troops have been killed in a massive strike on an army military installation in Donetsk.

The Russian military who almost never acknowledge any of their dead or missing have this time confirmed 63 killed.

Looking at the photos of the destruction it’s safe to say hundreds of Russians were most likely killed.

Reading all the propaganda above you would have thought everything was going rosy for them - obviously that is not the case at all.

Girkin is going mental on Telegram... confirming Hundreds dead. For Russia to admit to 63 dead... must be bad.

Remember they still claim only 1 died on the sunken Moskva.

 

[bones]

Interesting article that kind of summarises the whole situation. Ukraine are a proxy and this war is just the first move made by the Russians in a huge geo-political game.

https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/

A quote from this article:

• Maintaining the global dominance of the U.S. financial system,
• weakening the economy of the European Union through the maximum destruction of relations between Russia and the EU
• and a significant weakening of Russia’s position in the framework of the future conflict with China.

But MSM and many members of the public would lead you to believe Russia started this conflict because "Putin is an evil dictator who wants to re-establish the empire". The truth is the world is moving away from the US, you could say the empire is starting to crack.

I wonder if the average American knows their empire has steadily been declining and are trying to cling on.

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️In the Kharkov region, the Russian Federation (RF) Armed Forces destroyed two sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU).

️Nine HIMARS rockets were intercepted in the regions of Chernopopovka, Lugansk Republic and Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson region (ex-Ukraine.)

️ More than 130 foreign mercenaries were destroyed during the Russian Aerospace Forces strike in Donetsk Republic, ex-Ukraine (DPR.)

️2 NATO-supplied HIMARS multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) and four RM-70 Vampire MLRS vehicles were destroyed near the Druzhkovka railway station in the DPR.

️Up to 120 AFU servicemen have been eliminated.

 

[JaDed]

Interesting article that kind of summarises the whole situation. Ukraine are a proxy and this war is just the first move made by the Russians in a huge geo-political game.

https://www.thepostil.com/conflict-in-ukraine-genesis/

A quote from this article:

• Maintaining the global dominance of the U.S. financial system,
• weakening the economy of the European Union through the maximum destruction of relations between Russia and the EU
• and a significant weakening of Russia’s position in the framework of the future conflict with China.

But MSM and many members of the public would lead you to believe Russia started this conflict because "Putin is an evil dictator who wants to re-establish the empire". The truth is the world is moving away from the US, you could say the empire is starting to crack.

I wonder if the average American knows their empire has steadily been declining and are trying to cling on.

This will end up being the only move Russians make for next 20 years , Natural Gas prices have fallen again.

Average American doesn't care about the empire, Russia will do well to compete with Texas's economy.

 

[90MPH]

Girkin is going mental on Telegram... confirming Hundreds dead. For Russia to admit to 63 dead... must be bad.

Remember they still claim only 1 died on the sunken Moskva.

*Update*

Russia is now admitting that at least 89 of their serviceman were killed in the attack - like I said earlier it’s safe to say hundreds were killed when those Himars rained down on that location as the buildings were totally blown apart from the inside.

Apparently the Russian troops located there were told Not to use their mobile phones but as it was New Years Eve and thus celebrating some of them most likely got drunk so then they inadvertently did use them.
This obviously gave away their location to the Ukrainian intelligence services and made them sitting ducks.

The overall incompetence of the Russian military in this conflict has been staggering. Yet still people have the gall to defend their pathetic performance when this should have been a cakewalk for them.

 

[bones]

This will end up being the only move Russians make for next 20 years , Natural Gas prices have fallen again.

Average American doesn't care about the empire, Russia will do well to compete with Texas's economy.

Did you bother to read the link before typing your comment? If not please do.

 

[bones]

The overall incompetence of the Russian military in this conflict has been staggering. Yet still people have the gall to defend their pathetic performance when this should have been a cakewalk for them.

This was an inexplicably bad decision by the local command to allow so many units in one place. But when the Ukrainian and NATO forces did the same on more than one occasion (yavoriv and Dnipro) killing 300 and 130 did you or cpleigh comment about the incompetence then? Or is it a case of incompetence only when it suits you?

I remind you, Russia is fighting the collective west with 1/3 of the forces and has captured a large territory and is fighting a 1000km frontline. In WW2 such long frontlines involved 10 times more soldiers.

The Russians have made mistakes, lots of them especially intelligence wise but they are still winning and their mobilised forces haven’t even entered the battle yet.

The entire west is arming Ukraine, sending mercs, providing intel and they still are crying out for more, please read Zaluzny’s interview transcript on the economist. If things are bad for Russia how would you describe them for Ukraine based on what their wish list is.

https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

 

[MenInG]

Russia has said a new year missile attack that killed at least 89 Russian soldiers happened because troops were using their mobile phones.

Ukraine hit a college for conscripts in Makiivka, in the occupied Donetsk area, shortly after midnight on 1 January.

Soldiers' use of banned phones allowed the enemy to locate its target, the Russian military has now said.

While the number of people killed is unverified, it is the largest death toll acknowledged by Russia in the war.

Ukraine claims the figure is far higher, saying 400 soldiers were killed in the attack and a further 300 wounded.

Russia said that at 00:01 local time on New Year's Day, six rockets were fired from a US-made Himars rocket system at a vocational college, two of which were shot down.

The deputy commander of the regiment, Lt Col Bachurin, was among those killed, the military of defence said in a statement on Telegram in the early hours of Wednesday.

 

[cpleigh]

This was an inexplicably bad decision by the local command to allow so many units in one place. But when the Ukrainian and NATO forces did the same on more than one occasion (yavoriv and Dnipro) killing 300 and 130 did you or cpleigh comment about the incompetence then? Or is it a case of incompetence only when it suits you?

I remind you, Russia is fighting the collective west with 1/3 of the forces and has captured a large territory and is fighting a 1000km frontline. In WW2 such long frontlines involved 10 times more soldiers.

The Russians have made mistakes, lots of them especially intelligence wise but they are still winning and their mobilised forces haven’t even entered the battle yet.

The entire west is arming Ukraine, sending mercs, providing intel and they still are crying out for more, please read Zaluzny’s interview transcript on the economist. If things are bad for Russia how would you describe them for Ukraine based on what their wish list is.

https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

lol... keep telling yourself that.

Laughable

 

[cpleigh]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️2 NATO-supplied HIMARS multiple rocket launchers (MLRS) and four RM-70 Vampire MLRS vehicles were destroyed near the Druzhkovka railway station in the DPR.

️Up to 120 AFU servicemen have been eliminated.

Russians seem to be good at destroying HIMARS.... it's quite bizare how they keep getting pummeled by them.

Stop posting such blatant lies. They STILL haven't destroyed a single HIMAR system as confirmed by the US.

 

[Varun]

Winter is here now. Big changes will be coming soon on the battlefield and off it and it doesn't look good for Ukraine in either.

And were not even in winter season yet!

I think one winter should be enough to give a lot of delusional people reality checks.

What happened to these wintry predictions?

 

[bones]

What happened to these wintry predictions?

The Russians haven't deployed their mobilized forces yet. The troops are getting ready and based on Putin's recent statements it's not long till are deployed.

 

[Varun]

The Russians haven't deployed their mobilized forces yet. The troops are getting ready and based on Putin's recent statements it's not long till are deployed.

You should be put as an announcer at railway stations across Pakistan or India - giving incremental reasons on why passengers' trains are delayed hour after hour.

 

[bones]

You should be put as an announcer at railway stations across Pakistan or India - giving incremental reasons on why passengers' trains are delayed hour after hour.

This is the first real artillery war since the world wars. The Ukrainians have been building heavily fortified positions for years. As far as this conflict goes the Russians have won already. We have gone past the Kursk moment. What is happening right now is the needless slaughter of Ukranian conscripts.

 

[bones]

Here is a list of the countries supplying aid, intel, weapons and ammunition to Ukraine.

USA
UK
Canada
Norway
France
Greece
Portugal
Ireland
Sweden
Finland
Germany
Poland
Romania
Italy
Denmark
Estonia
Lithuania
Georgia
Australia

And people have the nerve to say Russia aren't fighting the collective west? The UK special ops are conducting operations in Ukraine, this has been confirmed by them. Poland have thousands of soldiers fighting on the frontlines. The US are providing real-time intel.

But kudos to Russia, they are winning despite all of this and despite all those sanctions.

 

[bones]

https://liveuamap.com

Looks like 200k Russian soldiers have captured and consolidated over 50,000 km2 exluding Crimea. I wonder what happens when the 300k join in.

If you think the support for Ukraine from the west is endless think again:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pentag...-drains-stocks-11670591163?mod=article_inline

 

[cpleigh]

The only UK special ops was for the Embassy at the start of the war. Nothing more.

As Zelensky joked 'Russia is at war with NATO, 100k russian died. How many from NAto have died.... they haven't even showed up yet'.

Stop pedalling this' Russia is fighting the collective West. It isn't. They are fighting Ukraine.

 

[cpleigh]

This is the first real artillery war since the world wars. The Ukrainians have been building heavily fortified positions for years. As far as this conflict goes the Russians have won already. We have gone past the Kursk moment. What is happening right now is the needless slaughter of Ukranian conscripts.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha absolute delusions

 

[bones]

If anyone claims Russia isn't winning, I suggest they look at this pro-ukranian map. Seems like a lot of red in Ukrainian territory.

https://liveuamap.com

 

[bones]

People claiming NATO soldiers are not fighting for Ukraine. I could dig up so many sources that prove they are - they're just doing it outside uniform because NATO dare I say don't want to declare war on Russia? Their public have no appetite for a war.

Why would the Polish make such laws now if they didn't have any fighters fighting for the AFU.

https://www.euractiv.com/section/po...es-illegally-fighting-for-ukraine-since-2014/

 

[cpleigh]

Nato troops are not fighting, stop pretending. Volunters from NATO countries are.

Are Ukrraine fighting Syria, Afghanistan and Africa cos a few are fighting for Russia? NO.

Russia has lost 50% of land it took at the start. Thats not winning is it?

 

[Technics 1210]

What happened to these wintry predictions?

One day you will dream of living in the West.

Until then, Winter in the West is defined as Dec to March.

Speak to Greta if you have a problem.

 

[Varun]

One day you will dream of living in the West.

Until then, Winter in the West is defined as Dec to March.

Speak to Greta if you have a problem.

I'd much rather stay where I am rather than move to the West and rely on a business that has to call itself "Technics 1210 Kebabs - Indian (& Pakistani) restaurant."

 

[Technics 1210]

I'd much rather stay where I am rather than move to the West and rely on a business that has to call itself "Technics 1210 Kebabs - Indian (& Pakistani) restaurant."

None of the above is relevant to the fact you do not live in the West and have no idea of winter season.

Good luck with your visa application, air stewardess.

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️ Russian Federation (RF) Armed Forces destroyed more than 40 military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) in Kupyansk, Donetsk Republic (DPR)

️RF Armed Forces destroyed an AFU sabotage group in the Kharkov region;

️Fighter aircraft of the RF Forces shot down a MiG-29 and Su-25 of the AFU in Kramatorsk, DPR;

️RF Armed Forces continue their offensive in the Donetsk direction, over 100 military units of the AFU destroyed;

️RF Forces destroyed five sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the AFU in the Lugansk Republic (LPR) and DPR;

️RF Armed Forces destroyed five warehouses of artillery ammunition of the AFU in the DPR and Zaporozhye regions;

️RF Forces destroyed three self-propelled howitzers 2S1 "Gvozdika" in Kharkov and Zaporozhye regions;

️Russian air defense systems destroyed six Ukrainian drones;

️RF Forces launched artillery strikes in the DPR and the Zaporozhye regions, over 180 Ukrainian servicemen were killed.

 

[daytrader]

Ukraine to get armoured combat vehicles from West, asks for tanks
France confirms it will send the first armoured combat vehicles to Ukraine, while US president says Washington considering sending Bradley fighting vehicles.

Ukraine’s Western allies have for the first time moved towards supplying armoured fighting vehicles to Ukrainian troops but not the heavier tanks Kyiv has requested to help fight Russian forces.

French President Emmanuel Macron told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday that his government would send French-made light AMX-10 RC armoured combat vehicles to help Ukraine’s defence effort, a French official said after a phone call between the two leaders.

...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...ured-combat-vehicles-from-west-asks-for-tanks

 

[the Great Khan]

The only UK special ops was for the Embassy at the start of the war. Nothing more.

As Zelensky joked 'Russia is at war with NATO, 100k russian died. How many from NAto have died.... they haven't even showed up yet'.

Stop pedalling this' Russia is fighting the collective West. It isn't. They are fighting Ukraine.

This is untrue as from the uk generals own admission.the uk has advisers on the ground beyond more maine commandos. What are advisers? They are special operators or special forces..in this case the SBS..why would they not be there? Your military knowledge is what's laughable on this forum.

As to the Russian progress or lack of..the whole problem with this war is the lack of proper information before the actual event. Most of the channels are flooded with propaganda and you have to sift through it..

From what I can gather is the Ukrainians have rallied after the majority of their pre war troops formations were destroyed or degraded.

They are now facing some major logistics issues as reported by the bbc from bakhmut. This was an on the ground report from an embedded reporter who claims that they are using Soviet era weaponry and are running out of ammunition but still fighting. The ukrops were surprised at how hard the Russians are fighting now and were even walking over their own dead soldiers to fight to the last. There has been a noticable change in intensity from the Russians. And this offensive is lead by hundreds of Wagner..

The new Russian mobilised troops have not entered the battlefield yet. Once the ground has frozen mobility will increase.

The Ukrainian head of the army has practically asked for an army the size of the British army. Otherwise they are worried they are about to face an apocalypse. He is also being courted as the next leader of Ukraine as zelensky will probably be removed in due course and given a golf course in the US..

We have no idea how the new Russian offensive will fare in the coming weeks and months.

Finally all this talk of running out of missiles applies alot more to Ukraine because they can't replenish stocks as quickly , maintenance is limited due to the Western weapons they are using and logistics are degrading fast.

I predict if the Russian offensive is successful we will be in peace talks by the summer. If it fails we will see a major escalation from Russian hardliners as they are keen on using massive firepower to annihilate Ukraine. I hope it doesn't go that far.

 

[James]

*Update*

Russia is now admitting that at least 89 of their serviceman were killed in the attack - like I said earlier it’s safe to say hundreds were killed when those Himars rained down on that location as the buildings were totally blown apart from the inside.

Apparently the Russian troops located there were told Not to use their mobile phones but as it was New Years Eve and thus celebrating some of them most likely got drunk so then they inadvertently did use them.
This obviously gave away their location to the Ukrainian intelligence services and made them sitting ducks.

<b>The overall incompetence of the Russian military in this conflict has been staggering. Yet still people have the gall to defend their pathetic performance when this should have been a cakewalk for them</b>.

My overriding feeling.

I’ve moved away from the BBC’s reporting of this conflict and been following the war via Al Jazeera, and yet it still seems to me that Russia is doing rubbish in it.

 

[bones]

The new Russian mobilised troops have not entered the battlefield yet. Once the ground has frozen mobility will increase.

Yep that's the general feeling from analysts on alternative media. The Russians are preparing for a quicker sweeping offensive and they cannot afford to get bogged down by the mud. A massive air campaign will be swiftly followed by ground offensives.

It's difficult to know when it'll be because Ukraine is a massive country and the weather varies a lot. If the ground freezes and remains frozen they could begin this month.

 

[Reddy]

Today's Briefing, Russian Ministry of defence:

️Russian Federation (RF) Armed Forces destroyed more than 40 Ukrainian soldiers in the Yuzhno-Donets direction, Donetsk Republic

️RF Forces are conducting successful offensive operations in Donetsk, up to 60 Ukrainian military have been destroyed;

️RF Forces destroyed more than 40 Ukrainian soldiers in Krasnoliman, DPR;

️RF Aerospace Forces shot down a Su-24 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force in the DPR;

️RF Armed Forces destroyed up to 30 Ukrainian soldiers in Kupyansk, DPR;

️Russian air defense systems shot down a Su-25 aircraft and 21 unmanned aerial vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine;

️In the DPR, the Russian military killed more than 55 extremists of Sheikh Mansur battalion (Chechens against Kadyrov);

️Russian military destroyed two warehouses of artillery ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the DPR;

️Russian air defense systems intercepted five HIMARS missiles of the multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) and four HARM missiles over the past day;

️RF Armed Forces destroyed a Grad "Hail" MLRS system and two Alder MLRS launchers in the DPR;

️Russian Armed Forces destroyed a M777 system in the Nikolaev region, as well as the AN / TPQ-37 counter-battery radar in the Lugansk Republic.

 

[JaDed]

What happened to these wintry predictions?

The winter did come to Russia though lol. Insane how dictators with control of Army are always on the clock to spiral downward.

Castro would be an exception but he was a defensive one and protecting his countries unlike these idiots.

 

[JaDed]

Here is a list of the countries supplying aid, intel, weapons and ammunition to Ukraine.

USA
UK
Canada
Norway
France
Greece
Portugal
Ireland
Sweden
Finland
Germany
Poland
Romania
Italy
Denmark
Estonia
Lithuania
Georgia
Australia

And people have the nerve to say Russia aren't fighting the collective west? The UK special ops are conducting operations in Ukraine, this has been confirmed by them. Poland have thousands of soldiers fighting on the frontlines. The US are providing real-time intel.

But kudos to Russia, they are winning despite all of this and despite all those sanctions.

What are they winning, can you put it in 2 lines ,"the motive of this war and the win" and I hope you can stay on those 2 lines for 6 months without moving goal posts.

 

[bones]

What are they winning, can you put it in 2 lines ,"the motive of this war and the win" and I hope you can stay on those 2 lines for 6 months without moving goal posts.

Read Putins speech right at the start of the SMO for the motives. Then look at what Zaluzhny is asking for to understand how badly they are being demilitarised. Have a look at who is being mobilised right now on both sides and decide for yourself.

 

[cpleigh]

Germany supplying patriot system to Ukraine now.. announced on the same day they announced they no longer buy any energy from Russia.

Gas and oil prices now plummeting. No wonder Russia has started stealing cash from it's citizens

 

[cpleigh]

Read Putins speech right at the start of the SMO for the motives. Then look at what Zaluzhny is asking for to understand how badly they are being demilitarised. Have a look at who is being mobilised right now on both sides and decide for yourself.

This isn't going to end well for you

 

[cpleigh]

Us now sending Bradley tanks and looks like the UK may be about to send warrior tanks

 

[bones]

Russia uses older equipment and MSM claim they are scraping the barrel. The US sends 1980s IFVs that they were looking to decommission and these are game changers.

 

[Abel Reames]

What are they winning, can you put it in 2 lines ,"the motive of this war and the win" and I hope you can stay on those 2 lines for 6 months without moving goal posts.

Jaded you asked Bones more or less the same questions way back in March when Bones was expecting the war to be over. His response to the aims/motives were as follows.

1. Get rid of current government.
2. Replace with puppets temporarily until new government is elected.
3. Bomb all US funded chemical and biological facilities.
4. Get Doneskt and Crimea officially completing the southern corridor.

Remember Bones also thought the war would be over in two weeks.

 

[bones]

Germany sendings handful of IFVs and 1 patriot battery, which is 6-8 launchers. More supposed game changers?

So the west keeps supplying the pick and mix selection of weapons to Ukraine. Who is going to train the soldiers ? Who will maintain or repair them?

 

[bones]

Jaded you asked Bones more or less the same questions way back in March when Bones was expecting the war to be over. His response to the aims/motives were as follows.

1. Get rid of current government.
2. Replace with puppets temporarily until new government is elected.
3. Bomb all US funded chemical and biological facilities.
4. Get Doneskt and Crimea officially completing the southern corridor.

Remember Bones also thought the war would be over in two weeks.

1 & 2 were my interpretation of what putin said. These may not be required now because the Ukrainians won’t be negotiating they will be capitulating.

3 is done, it was done early on.

4 is taking much longer because the west continues to supply Ukraine. It will be achieved but it will take longer. Russia will take a lot more than Donbas and crimea now.

I remind you that in April in Istanbul - Ukraine were ready to start accepting terms until Boris Johnson paid Zelensky an emergency visit.

 

[Gilly]

I can't believe in this day of education and awareness that there are people that think that are winners in war.